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Russian teamsters changed their tactics to achieve two goals. First, they
want to prove themselves good wikipedians by developing new articles and
providing sourced materials (note "keep" vote by DGG), and to prove the
opposite team  bad POV pushers removes everything they do not like for
whatever cost. Second, they want to present themselves as genuine Russian
nationalists, rather than paid hoods. They will mobilize as many people as
needed

You have only three viable tactics: (1) do the same with regards to [[Human
rights in Russia]] and other similar Russian subjects, especially Litvinenk=
o
and Moscow bombings (that is something they actually care most); (2) edit
and expand  human rights in Estonia articles to NPOV them; (3)  find proofs
that some of them are actually socks (if there are proofs, reporting them t=
o
SPI is not a problem).



On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Sander S=E4de <sander.sade@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> It seems the opposing cabal has started "fool-scale" wave of provocations=
,
> possibly because of the FeelSunny's complete blunder in Discrimination of
> ethnic minorities in Estonia AfD.
>
> Following articles are created/questionable material entered:
>
>
>    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaitsepolitsei
>    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Estonia (new
>    article, should be turned into a redirect as a stub with now growth
>    potential)
>    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Estonia
>    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Estonia
>    - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-nazism_in_estonia
>
> And as for why the last article is misspelled -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Neo-Nazism_i=
n_Estonia- it was deleted last time. Who wants to slap "recreation of delet=
ed
> material" speedy on it?
>
> Sander
>
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Russian teamsters changed their tactics to achieve two goals. First, they w=
ant to prove themselves good wikipedians by developing new articles and pro=
viding sourced materials (note &quot;keep&quot; vote by DGG), and to prove =
the opposite team=A0  bad POV pushers removes everything they do not like f=
or whatever cost. Second, they want to present themselves as genuine Russia=
n nationalists, rather than paid hoods. They will mobilize as many people a=
s needed<br>
<br>You have only three viable tactics: (1) do the same with regards to [[H=
uman rights in Russia]] and other similar Russian subjects, especially Litv=
inenko and Moscow bombings (that is something they actually care most); (2)=
 edit and expand=A0 human rights in Estonia articles to NPOV them; (3)=A0 f=
ind proofs that some of them are actually socks (if there are proofs, repor=
ting them to SPI is not a problem).<br>
<br>=A0  <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:59 PM,=
 Sander S=E4de <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sander.sade@gmail.co=
m">sander.sade@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0p=
t 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
It seems the opposing cabal has started &quot;fool-scale&quot; wave of prov=
ocations, possibly because of the FeelSunny&#39;s complete blunder in Discr=
imination of ethnic minorities in Estonia AfD.<br><br>Following articles ar=
e created/questionable material entered:<br>

<br><ul><li><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaitsepolitsei" target=
=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaitsepolitsei</a></li><li><a href=
=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Estonia" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Estonia</a> (new ar=
ticle, should be turned into a redirect as a stub with now growth potential=
)</li>

<li><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Estonia" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Estonia</a></li><li><a href=3D"h=
ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Estonia" target=3D"_blank">http=
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Estonia</a></li>

<li><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-nazism_in_estonia" target=
=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-nazism_in_estonia</a></li></ul=
>And as for why the last article is misspelled - <a href=3D"http://en.wikip=
edia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Neo-Nazism_in_Estonia" target=
=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ne=
o-Nazism_in_Estonia</a> - it was deleted last time. Who wants to slap &quot=
;recreation of deleted material&quot; speedy on it?<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">
<br>Sander<br>
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