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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:04, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've set up a Dwiki instance at <http://wikipedometer.net:6780/>.  Please
> create accounts there.
>

So far, Sander and Peters have created accounts.

Here's my view of what we should do with the wiki:

There is no point in trying to replace Wikipedia, at least for now.  We
can't pull it off.  Instead, we should use it to keep track on developments
more complicated than can fit into real-time email messages.

On one hand, it would probably cover news events, and cross-linked
developments.  In a private use wiki, it will be possible to speak candidly
of politicians who would not appreciate such exposure in Wikipedia, for
example.

On another hand, it would cover areas in need of attention in Wikipedia,
such as Piotrus' list of diffs.

Dwiki as a software has facilities for making parts of the wiki private.  I
think we should keep most of it private, but leave a few public pages
discussing the wikipedometer toolkit up as a cover.  Note that this privacy
is *not yet configured*, however; right now, everything in this wiki is
still available to anybody who knows its location.  This will change in nea=
r
future.

Finally, Dwiki can be usable for developing articles before copying them to
Wikipedia.  Reverts are much easier to mask when they're mixed with small
improvements -- and small improvements are easier to find if they can be
copy-pasted :-)  Not to mention that such co=C3=B6peration will permit, say=
, me
to discuss on Wikipedia fine nuances about Romania/Moldova culture, as
helped by Dorin and Cristian.

It should be considered, however, that Dwiki's syntax is not entirely
MediaWiki-compatible.  I'm working on a filter that allows conversion of
text from Dwiki to MediaWiki; meanwhile, feel free to use Dwiki as though i=
t
was MediaWiki.  The only significant downside is that it might not
understand HTML complexities.

--=20
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:04, Digwuren <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>I&#39;ve set up a Dwiki instance at &lt;<a href=3D"http://wikipedomete=
r.net:6780/" target=3D"_blank">http://wikipedometer.net:6780/</a>&gt;. =C2=
=A0Please create accounts there.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So f=
ar, Sander and Peters have created accounts.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Here&#39;s my view of what we should do with the wiki:<=
/div><div><br></div><div>There is no point in trying to replace Wikipedia, =
at least for now. =C2=A0We can&#39;t pull it off. =C2=A0Instead, we should =
use it to keep track on developments more complicated than can fit into rea=
l-time email messages.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On one hand, it would probably cover news events, and c=
ross-linked developments. =C2=A0In a private use wiki, it will be possible =
to speak candidly of politicians who would not appreciate such exposure in =
Wikipedia, for example.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On another hand, it would cover areas in need of attent=
ion in Wikipedia, such as Piotrus&#39; list of diffs.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Dwiki as a software has facilities for making parts of the wiki private=
. =C2=A0I think we should keep most of it private, but leave a few public p=
ages discussing the wikipedometer toolkit up as a cover. =C2=A0Note that th=
is privacy is *not yet configured*, however; right now, everything in this =
wiki is still available to anybody who knows its location. =C2=A0This will =
change in near future.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Finally, Dwiki can be usable for developing articles be=
fore copying them to Wikipedia. =C2=A0Reverts are much easier to mask when =
they&#39;re mixed with small improvements -- and small improvements are eas=
ier to find if they can be copy-pasted :-) =C2=A0Not to mention that such c=
o=C3=B6peration will permit, say, me to discuss on Wikipedia fine nuances a=
bout Romania/Moldova culture, as helped by Dorin and Cristian.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It should be considered, however, that Dwiki&#39;s synt=
ax is not entirely MediaWiki-compatible. =C2=A0I&#39;m working on a filter =
that allows conversion of text from Dwiki to MediaWiki; meanwhile, feel fre=
e to use Dwiki as though it was MediaWiki. =C2=A0The only significant downs=
ide is that it might not understand HTML complexities.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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