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Molobo Molobo wrote:
> Should I request unblock or give it a rest ?

Yes, but don't bother with normal unblock (well, you can, but I estimate =

a chance for its to work is 1%). Contact the blocking admin and ask for =

a reduction, citing the arguments I gave you before, plus the issue of =

broken promise to reveal secret evidence/psychological torture. Be =

polite, admit you have erred, stress that your errors should not be =

enough for a YEAR ban, ask for reduction to a month or two. Ask for a =

mentor, too.

If he declines, you should try the same via appeal to ArbCom. I am =

currently helping GregParkAvenue to appeal; it seems that the arbcom =

will agree to unban him. Here's copy of an email from ArbCom to greg, =

and a copy of his request for an unblock I helped him to write.

---

The Ban Appeal Sub Committee has considered your appeal and, subject to =

your acceptance, would recommend proposing to the Arbitration Committee
a return to editing for you on the following basis:

Proposal: Due to the original and continuing acknowledgment of =

wrongdoing and willingness to be put on a parole and mentored (see here =

and here), Greg park avenue's year-long sitewide ban is commuted to six =

months (ending 23 June 2009), conditional on a willing mentor being =

found and assigned. However, due to the concerns mentioned in the =

original case, the following restrictions (partially taken from here) =

are put in place until the original ban would have expired (23 December =

2009):

     * (A) Greg park avenue shall be assigned one or more volunteer =

mentors to assist him in understanding and following policy and =

community practices. If Greg park avenue wishes to create articles that =

are biographies of living people, he shall do so in draft form in his =

userspace, under supervision of his mentor(s), using the NOINDEX tag.
     * (B) Greg park avenue is topic-banned from editing biographies of =

living people or the talk pages of such articles.
     * (C) Should Greg park avenue make any comment deemed by an =

administrator to have been incivil, a personal attack, an assumption of =

bad faith, or a violation of the BLP policy (including in talk page =

comments or comments made anywhere on Wikipedia), he may be blocked as =

provided in the enforcement ruling.
     * (D) Greg park avenue is limited to one revert per page per week, =

with the exception of simple vandalism; and is required to discuss all =

content reverts on the relevant talk page.

This text shall be sent to Greg park avenue to ascertain his consent to =

these conditions. If a mentor or mentors are found and approved by 23 =

June 2009, Greg park avenue shall be unblocked and the above =

restrictions shall be logged at the case page and come into effect, and =

Greg park avenue shall be considered subject to the enforcement =

provisions given here. Because this is a recent case, if this proposal =

is passed by the ban appeals subcommittee, it shall be presented to the =

whole arbitration committee for a period of one week. If objections are =

raised in that period, it shall be voted on en banc. If no mentor(s) are =

found by 23 June 2008, the original ban shall stand.
This supersedes an incomplete message sent to you a few minutes ago as text.

Please advise us of your decision.

Roger Davies


greg646@onet.eu wrote:
 > Appeal to
 > =

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Eastern_Eur=
opean_disputes#Greg_park_avenue_banned
 > by Greg.
 >
 > I was banned for a year by the ArbCom for the BLP violations, and an =

uncivil remark (NPA). Before I was banned I apologized for them,
 > promised not to make them again, and agreed to be put on a parole and =

mentored
 > =

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Easte=
rn_European_disputes/Proposed_decision#Greg_banned..._do_we_have_to_go_so_f=
ar.3F).
 > As a proof of my good intentions, please note I've been banned in
 > December, but no evidence against me was cited since late August. 14 =

editors voted against banning me and/or expressed support for unbanning
 > me on my tak; I've also been made a honorary member of WikiProject
 > Poland for my past edits (I've written quite a few noncontroversial
 > articles and rescued others from AfDs). I have served already almost
 > five months, I would like to resume editing Wikipedia in an
 > uncontroversial fashion, which I've displayed at the very least from
 > late August till I was banned in December.
 >
 > Could you unban me to write an article [[Dariusz Zawi=B6lak]]? This
 > article was originally written by unexperienced editors, who have =

based it solely on primary sources, and it was deleted multiple times. I =

can improve it; it is non-controversial (other then the issues with
 > notability). Also I would like to have an access to its Talk Page/AfD
 > Page, Deletion Review Page and My User page/Subpage if neccessary.
 > Could I go to become active? Even if I am only a Sunday editor. Won't
 > make too many entries. I used to prefer to save unjustified AfD
 > nominated articles than write new ones. Just one lazy guy, but more
 > times than not it paid. My best entry was [[Two and Four Stroke
 > Engines]]. Sincerely ~~~~


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