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In a message dated 8/20/2009 9:15:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
basiaipiotr@yahoo.com writes:

Oh yes, so nice of them. They just urged people to leave their houses,  and 
these stupid Polacks did not want to move. Idiots, it is all their fault.  
And I do not believe I am talking to a Pole. 
 
Tymek




Not really on this last statement, but on Volhynia as a whole,...
 
I really need to read the article through in detail to offer more specific  
advice, however, I think this is one of those issues that requires a lot of 
 historical context so that the two sides in opposition are understood. 
These  things stretch back for centuries, so Ukrainians wanting to get rid of 
Polish  "invaders" is the understandable part, so to speak, one cannot help 
that there  was no love lost.
 
I think where we are bogging down is general attitude of Ukrainians wanting 
 Poles out--the so-called "ethnic cleansing" that's been referred to, 
however,  that's completely the wrong term to use in our dialog here if the goal 
is  achieving expulsion--and those who thought killing Poles was a good idea 
to  accomplish that, which is something completely different. Once ethnic 
cleansing  crosses the line, you can't call it anything other than genocide, 
because that's  what it is by definition.
 
Let us all remember that every Eastern European nationality had its share  
of those who committed heinous acts. We need to separate that phenomenon out 
 from and stay away from projecting acts of minorities into generalities  
regarding the majority. Likewise we cannot take historical emnities and paint 
 ourselves into corners where genocidal acts of a minority are somehow  
understandable. Nor can we take genocidal acts and from them project they must  
be the result of centuries of alleged emnity.
 
/Peters
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