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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:56:54 -0500
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From: radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
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	Content preview: My concern was that if I file AE and Thatcher refuses
	(if it's up to him alone) then if I file it again at RFAR then the
	clerks are more likely to reject to even hear the case. But two shots
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My concern was that if I file AE and Thatcher refuses (if it's up to
him alone) then if I file it again at RFAR then the clerks are more
likely to reject to even hear the case.
But two shots are better than one so it might make sense to file it at
AE first. I don't think I'll have time to adequately prepare it today
- lots of class prep work. But I should have enough time tomorrow
night.

Radek


2009/6/29 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
> radek szulga wrote:
>> Also, it would be useful if someone could elaborate/explain this
>> portion of the AE guideline:
>>
>> "# In November 2008, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion which
>> stated that administrators are prohibited from reversing or
>> overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another
>> administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy,
>> and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except
>>
>> =A0 =A0 * with the written authorization of the Committee, or
>> =A0 =A0 * following a clear, substantial, and active community consensus=
 to do so.
>>
>> Provisionally (pending updates to the enforcement process), this
>> applies only to specific administrative actions affecting specific
>> users; it does not apply to notices, editor lists, warnings, broad
>> topic area actions, or other "enforcement actions" that are not
>> specific actions applied to specific editors. (Clarification motion)"
>>
>> Obviously there is NOT going to be a "clear community consensus". Does
>> this mean that Thatcher is the only person who can rescind the ruling?
>> If so, then perhaps it would be better to go straight to RFAR?
>
> Wikilawyering :) Hope she forgets about this or that it is not
> mentioned. If it is, go to RFAR, but there is no reason not to try AE fir=
st.
>
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
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> theory."
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