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2009/7/9 Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>

>
> "they fired nearly 200 almost exclusively white workers and replaced them
> with a large number of minority employees"
>
> Typically, "lower class" black Americans work  much slower than their
> "white" colleagues, as one can see in almost any supermarket where they sit
> at cash counters, which is due to of a different attitude to work. This is
> mostly a social phenomenon because a typical black newcomer to US from
> Africa works just fine, unlike a typical poor African American who lived in
> US for several generations. Black Americans from a "higher society" are
> intelligent and no different from others.  However, poor blacks live in a
> very different world: there are no permanent families, drug traffic, and
> crime.
>

I was about to say exactly that: when I was in the US, in supermarkets, I
avoided to stay in line at black cashiers, because at times it took not
twice, but 3 times more time! Nobody reasonable doubts that there are very
intelligent blacks (e.g. Condoleezza Rice, which is 100 times better than
her white counterpart Clinton), but the problem is American newspapers had
no racial thing to worry when they draw her as a parrot-raven every week.
Try drawing a raven-cashier, and see what scandal will come. It is the
culture of mediocrity that is to blame, imo. And it's not restricted to
blacks. All colors mediocres are found in greater numbers these days.

They hire 30 blacks when they only have 10 qualified blacks in the pool,
rejecting 50 better whites, and as a result those 10 suffer, b/c their white
co-workers assume the 10 to be dumb by default. But you are right: half of
them have relatives that passed through jail at some point. So they learn
everything jail/crime-related as a foundation, and the other information
comes on top of that. Obviously, it doesn't fit. Positive discrimination is
only making things worse, imho.

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<div class=3D"im"><br>&quot;they fired nearly 200 almost exclusively white =
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r><br></div>Typically, &quot;lower class&quot; black Americans work=A0 much=
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ny supermarket where they sit at cash counters, which is due to of a differ=
ent attitude to work. This is mostly a social phenomenon because a typical =
black newcomer to US from Africa works just fine, unlike a typical poor Afr=
ican American who lived in US for several generations. Black Americans from=
 a &quot;higher society&quot; are=A0 intelligent and no different from othe=
rs.=A0 However, poor blacks live in a very different world: there are no pe=
rmanent families, drug traffic, and crime.=A0  <br>
</blockquote></div><br><div>I was about to say exactly that: when I was in =
the US, in supermarkets, I avoided to stay in line at black cashiers, becau=
se at times it took not twice, but 3 times more time! Nobody reasonable dou=
bts that there are very intelligent blacks (e.g. Condoleezza Rice, which is=
 100 times better than her white counterpart Clinton), but the problem is A=
merican newspapers had no racial thing to worry when they draw her as a par=
rot-raven every week. Try drawing a raven-cashier, and see what scandal wil=
l come. It is the culture of mediocrity that is to blame, imo. And it&#39;s=
 not restricted to blacks. All colors mediocres are found in greater number=
s these days.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>They hire 30 blacks when they only have 10 qualified bl=
acks in the pool, rejecting 50 better whites, and as a result those 10 suff=
er, b/c their white co-workers assume the 10 to be dumb by default. But you=
 are right: half of them have relatives that passed through jail at some po=
int. So they learn everything jail/crime-related as a foundation, and the o=
ther information comes on top of that. Obviously, it doesn&#39;t fit. Posit=
ive discrimination is only making things worse, imho. =A0=A0</div>

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