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I've expanded the stub a bit. I'm just translating from Polish wiki so
correct as needed.

Radek


2009/8/3 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>

> Now we have an article about the 1930 pacification, I knew about this
> event, but Hillock just used the term pacification, not specifying what h=
e
> had in mind. Anyway, should I call this article "anti - Polish", just lik=
e
> Hillock called some articles "anti - Ukrainian"? It is obvious that I wil=
l
> not do it, as this is history, painful as it was, and there is nothing
> anti-Polish in describing this event. Just like there is nothing
> anti-Ukrainian in describing the Volhynian Genocide.
>
> BTW I think the name 1930 Pacification of Ukrainians in Poland would be t=
he
> best name.
>
> Tymek
>
> --- On *Sun, 8/2/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in
> interwar Poland
> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
> Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 11:58 PM
>
>
> Hmm, that site seems to be from radical far-left ?
>
> 2009/8/3 O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca<http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos=
e?to=3Dhillock@yahoo.ca>
> >:
> >
> > I renamed it to Pacification of Ukrainians, that is the term that best
> known in English literature. It is similar to Polish terminology as well:
> Pacyfikacja Lemkowszczyzny, Ukraincow i Bialorusinow
> http://www.geocities.com/arch_lbc/1522zbrodnie2rp.htm
> >
> > --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com<http://us.mc328.ma=
il.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com<http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/=
mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in
> interwar Poland
> >> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net<http://us.mc328.ma=
il.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net>
> >
> >> Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 11:28 AM
> >> The title might be sensitive.
> >> Any alternate proposals ?
> >>
> >> 2009/8/3 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl<http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.co=
m/mc/compose?to=3Dpiokon@post.pl>
> >:
> >> > Molobo Molobo wrote:
> >> >> As a show of good will gesture and to demonstrate
> >> that we can discuss
> >> >> difficult issues
> >> >> Tymek didn't knew about pacification of Ukrainian
> >> villages and O.G
> >> >> would like to start an article, it turns out it
> >> already exists on
> >> >> Polish Wikipedia:
> >> >> http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacyfikacja_Ma%C5%82opolski_Wschodniej
> >> >
> >> > Stubbed, will expand:
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Lesser_Poland
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Piotr Konieczny
> >> >
> >> > "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in
> >> reality, not in
> >> > theory."
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I&#39;ve expanded the stub a bit. I&#39;m just translating from Polish wiki=
 so correct as needed.<br><br>Radek<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2=
009/8/3 piotr micula <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:basiaipiotr@ya=
hoo.com">basiaipiotr@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><table border=3D"=
0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td style=3D"font-family:=
 inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit;=
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stretch: inherit;" valign=3D"top">
<div>Now we have an article about the 1930 pacification, I knew about this =
event, but Hillock just used the term pacification, not specifying what he =
had in mind. Anyway, should I call this article &quot;anti - Polish&quot;, =
just like Hillock called some articles &quot;anti - Ukrainian&quot;? It is =
obvious that I will not do it, as this is history, painful as it was, and t=
here is nothing anti-Polish in describing this event. Just like there is no=
thing anti-Ukrainian in describing the Volhynian Genocide.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>BTW I think the name 1930 Pacification of Ukrainians in Poland would b=
e the best name.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Tymek<div class=3D"im"><br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 8/2/09, Molobo Molobo <i=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">molobus@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br></div></div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left:=
 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><div class=3D"im"><br>From: Molobo Molobo &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;<br>
Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in inte=
rwar Poland<br>To: &quot;Wikipedia statistics&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:f=
olks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D"_blank">folks@wikipedometer.net</a>&gt;<b=
r>
</div>Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 11:58 PM<div><div></div><div class=3D"h=
5"><br><br>
<div>Hmm, that site seems to be from radical far-left ?<br><br>2009/8/3 O. =
G. &lt;<a href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dhillock@ya=
hoo.ca" target=3D"_blank">hillock@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I renam=
ed it to Pacification of Ukrainians, that is the term that best known in En=
glish literature. It is similar to Polish terminology as well: Pacyfikacja =
Lemkowszczyzny, Ukraincow i Bialorusinow <a href=3D"http://www.geocities.co=
m/arch_lbc/1522zbrodnie2rp.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.geocities.com/=
arch_lbc/1522zbrodnie2rp.htm</a><br>
&gt;<br>&gt; --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo &lt;<a href=3D"http://us.mc3=
28.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">molo=
bus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; From: Molobo Molobo &lt;<a=
 href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;
 Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in int=
erwar Poland<br>&gt;&gt; To: &quot;Wikipedia statistics&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net"=
 target=3D"_blank">folks@wikipedometer.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 11:28 AM<br>&gt;&gt; The title m=
ight be sensitive.<br>&gt;&gt; Any alternate proposals ?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt=
;&gt; 2009/8/3 Piotr Konieczny &lt;<a href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.co=
m/mc/compose?to=3Dpiokon@post.pl" target=3D"_blank">piokon@post.pl</a>&gt;:=
<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Molobo Molobo wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; As a show of good w=
ill gesture and to demonstrate<br>&gt;&gt; that we can discuss<br>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt; difficult issues<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Tymek didn&#39;t knew about =
pacification of Ukrainian<br>
&gt;&gt; villages and O.G<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; would like to start an artic=
le, it turns out it<br>&gt;&gt; already
 exists on<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Polish Wikipedia:<br>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <a h=
ref=3D"http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacyfikacja_Ma%C5%82opolski_Wschodniej"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacyfikacja_Ma%C5%82opolski=
_Wschodniej</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; Stubbed, will expand:<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; <a hr=
ef=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Lesser_Poland" target=3D=
"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Lesser_Poland</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>&gt;&gt; &gt; Piotr Konieczny<br>&gt;&=
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