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From: radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
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	Content preview:  Well, I tried
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deacon_of_Pndapetzim#Please_don.27t_make_general_insults
	and we'll see how he responds - I tried to be sufficiently patronizing
	that he should be at least irritated. I also tried to feed him a couple
	of lines that can easily be taken as uncivil if he says it. I think we
	should wait just a tad before going to AE since we've been frequent
	visitors there lately. Basically one or two more comments like that and
	it should be good (the first one you cite probably isn't strong enough)
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	that he should be at least irritated. I also tried to feed him a couple
	of lines that can easily be taken as uncivil if he says it. I think we
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	it should be good (the first one you cite probably isn't strong enough)
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Well, I tried
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Deacon_of_Pndapetzim#Please_don.27t_=
make_general_insults
and we'll see how he responds - I tried to be sufficiently patronizing
that he should be at least irritated. I also tried to feed him a
couple of lines that can easily be taken as uncivil if he says it.
I think we should wait just a tad before going to AE since we've been
frequent visitors there lately. Basically one or two more comments
like that and it should be good (the first one you cite probably isn't
strong enough)

Radek


2009/6/3 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
> Radek, please read :)
>
> Deacon, since returning from his month of wikibreak, has made two
> comments I consider of evidence-potential:
>
> *May 31:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia%3AAdministrators%2=
7_noticeboard&diff=3D293606105&oldid=3D293602145
> bad faith against Polish users in general and Piotrus in particular]
>
> *June 2:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk%3AAvraham&diff=3D2=
94030252&oldid=3D294029001
> Bad faith, PA against Piotrus]
>
> Before his wikibreak, he has made a series of similar comments, but then
> went on Wikibreak when I asked him to agree to mediation. I have all of
> those previous diffs stored and ready to bring to argue that he has
> displayed bad faith/uncivility towards me and Polish editors in general,
> and has been stalking me in particular, but I am afraid it is not enough
> to win an ArbCom yet.
>
> Perhaps it would be useful if another user, not me (to avoid framing
> this as a Deacon-Piotrus confict), would do the following:
> * ask Deacon to refrain from uncivil / bad faithed comments about Polish
> editors and me, and propose a mediation
> * send the above two comments to an AE editor (AGK seemed particularly
> friendly in the last ArbCom and in AE in general) asking if they would
> be enough for AE to put Deacon officially under Digwuren's restriction,
> and later start an AE thread on this
>
> I think it would make most sense for Radek to do this, since he is the
> only Polish editor other than me reading this and in good standing :)
>
> Everyone else who has already commented at Avraham talk could try
> baiting Deacon into another anti-P outburst; I've already replied to him
> =A0at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk%3AAvraham&diff=3D29=
4030252&oldid=3D294029001
> Each evidence-comment he makes is one diff closer to taking him down.
> Just remember - don't say anything that may be used AGAINST you. We have
> to be paragons of virtue :)
>
> Comments?
>
> --
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> "Lennier, get us the hell out of here." =A0 =A0 |||
> "Initiating 'getting the hell out of here' maneuver."
> =A0-- Ivanova and Lennier in Babylon 5:"The Hour of the Wolf"
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