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This does not cost much

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

BTW, someone just came today (the account was reactivated after a year):

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Unified_Communist_Party_of_Nepal_(Maoist)&diff=prev&oldid=207050720

First thing, he deleted article created by Colchichum, which previously led
to a conflict between Colchicum and Irpen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Decommunization_in_Russia&diff=prev&oldid=300508749


On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:

> Martin wrote:
> > I note that Russavia is tagging may topics, like [[Occupation of the
> > Baltic states]] as Wikiproject_Russia, Shouldn't it really be tagged
> > Wikiproject_Soviet_Union?
>
> I don't think such a WikiProject exists...
>
> Btw, I do think we may be assuming to much, hmmm, cabal behind Russavia.
> Really, he is no more active than I am, for example. Until proven
> otherwise, we should always consider it highly possible (Ockham razor)
> that he is just a very active pro-Putin editor (the letter could be
> explained by pure luck or having a friend in the right place).
>
> And seriously, if any country wanted to manage Wikipedia properly, they
> would be doing a much better job than Russavia and the few others
> amateurish USSR Forever cabalists and friends.
>
> For a cost of 4-5 officials/agents, you can hire that many full hour
> smart editors, who would have time aplenty to create/adjust content, up
> to and including possible FAs, get adminship and weight in and likely
> dominate most subject areas. Seriously, consider what I was able to do,
> and that's in my spare time (although I am highly addicted to the
> Wiki... :D). And if you get restricted/banned, you have funds aplenty to
> get a different ISP / computer / whatever. Heck, they could be rotating
> agents and everything. You don't even need to dabble to much in
> controversial articles, there is a ton of uncontroversial Russia article
> that could be promoted to DYKs/FAs and thus improve Russia image that
> way. The fact that this is not happening, and the fact that we are more
> or less holding our own against them, tells me that either they are
> highly uncompetent/not serious or most likely, we are dealing with
> amateurish pro-Putin editor(s).
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> theory."
>
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This does not cost much<br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_C=
ent_Party">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party</a><br><br>BTW, someo=
ne just came today (the account was reactivated after a year): <br><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUnified_Communist_Party_=
of_Nepal_(Maoist)&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D207050720">http://en.wikipedi=
a.org/w/index.php?title=3DUnified_Communist_Party_of_Nepal_(Maoist)&amp;dif=
f=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D207050720</a><br>
<br>First thing, he deleted article created by Colchichum, which previously=
 led to a conflict between Colchicum and Irpen:<br><br><a href=3D"http://en=
.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DDecommunization_in_Russia&amp;diff=3Dpre=
v&amp;oldid=3D300508749">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DDecomm=
unization_in_Russia&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D300508749</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Piotr K=
onieczny <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204=
); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Martin wrote:<br>
&gt; I note that Russavia is tagging may topics, like [[Occupation of the<b=
r>
&gt; Baltic states]] as Wikiproject_Russia, Shouldn&#39;t it really be tagg=
ed<br>
&gt; Wikiproject_Soviet_Union?<br>
<br>
</div>I don&#39;t think such a WikiProject exists...<br>
<br>
Btw, I do think we may be assuming to much, hmmm, cabal behind Russavia.<br=
>
Really, he is no more active than I am, for example. Until proven<br>
otherwise, we should always consider it highly possible (Ockham razor)<br>
that he is just a very active pro-Putin editor (the letter could be<br>
explained by pure luck or having a friend in the right place).<br>
<br>
And seriously, if any country wanted to manage Wikipedia properly, they<br>
would be doing a much better job than Russavia and the few others<br>
amateurish USSR Forever cabalists and friends.<br>
<br>
For a cost of 4-5 officials/agents, you can hire that many full hour<br>
smart editors, who would have time aplenty to create/adjust content, up<br>
to and including possible FAs, get adminship and weight in and likely<br>
dominate most subject areas. Seriously, consider what I was able to do,<br>
and that&#39;s in my spare time (although I am highly addicted to the<br>
Wiki... :D). And if you get restricted/banned, you have funds aplenty to<br=
>
get a different ISP / computer / whatever. Heck, they could be rotating<br>
agents and everything. You don&#39;t even need to dabble to much in<br>
controversial articles, there is a ton of uncontroversial Russia article<br=
>
that could be promoted to DYKs/FAs and thus improve Russia image that<br>
way. The fact that this is not happening, and the fact that we are more<br>
or less holding our own against them, tells me that either they are<br>
highly uncompetent/not serious or most likely, we are dealing with<br>
amateurish pro-Putin editor(s).<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
Piotr Konieczny<br>
<br>
&quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
<br>
theory.&quot;<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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