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Yes Piotrus is right and=A0should definetaly=A0stay out of it. Looks like X=
x236 is going to get a topic ban for a short period of time.

--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:


From: Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>
Subject: Re: [WPM] Xx236 needs help.
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:25 AM


Molobo Molobo wrote:
> However Piotrus, this means we do lose a contributor who was able to=20
> absorb time and effort of unfriendly contributors, and who did=20
> patricipate in votes. additionally Skapperod would gain credibility as=20
> "victim" and productive member of Wiki community. I agree that Xx236 is=
=20
> completely clueless as to avoiding personal attacks, but still I think a=
=20
> word or two of warning to him to stop it might avoid a ban. If he=20
> continues-well it's sad, but like Hanzo some people are unable to=20
> exploit Wiki doublespeak.

True, but he is also clueless as how to follow my advice. I gave him=20
various advice and warnings over the time, yet he got himself on the DIG=20
list some time ago, and the evidence presented at AE is pretty strong.

Defending him would be quite double-standardish - I'd want anybody=20
making those kind of PAs against us banned.

If anybody disagrees with me, fine, go ahead and defend him, but I think=20
I'll stay this one out. This will also mean that I'll be able to claim=20
that I don't defend all Polish editors automatically if such a charge is=20
brought against me in the future.


--=20
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=20
theory."

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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Yes Piotrus is right and&nbsp;should def=
inetaly&nbsp;stay out of it. Looks like Xx236 is going to get a topic ban f=
or a short period of time.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 9/9/09, Piotr Konieczny <I=
>&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Piotr Konieczny &lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;<BR>S=
ubject: Re: [WPM] Xx236 needs help.<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;folks=
@wikipedometer.net&gt;<BR>Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:25 AM<BR><B=
R>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Molobo Molobo wrote:<BR>&gt; However Piotrus, this m=
eans we do lose a contributor who was able to <BR>&gt; absorb time and effo=
rt of unfriendly contributors, and who did <BR>&gt; patricipate in votes. a=
dditionally Skapperod would gain credibility as <BR>&gt; "victim" and produ=
ctive member of Wiki community. I agree that Xx236 is <BR>&gt; completely c=
lueless as to avoiding personal attacks, but still I think a <BR>&gt; word =
or two of warning to him to stop it might avoid a ban. If he <BR>&gt; conti=
nues-well it's sad, but like Hanzo some people are unable to <BR>&gt; explo=
it Wiki doublespeak.<BR><BR>True, but he is also clueless as how to follow =
my advice. I gave him <BR>various advice and warnings over the time, yet he=
 got himself on the DIG <BR>list some time ago, and the evidence presented =
at AE is pretty strong.<BR><BR>Defending him would be quite double-standard=
ish - I'd want anybody <BR>making those kind of PAs against us
 banned.<BR><BR>If anybody disagrees with me, fine, go ahead and defend him=
, but I think <BR>I'll stay this one out. This will also mean that I'll be =
able to claim <BR>that I don't defend all Polish editors automatically if s=
uch a charge is <BR>brought against me in the future.<BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Pio=
tr Konieczny<BR><BR>"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in =
reality, not in <BR>theory."<BR><BR>_______________________________________=
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