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Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:06:27 -0400
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Back to UsernamePassword... He is obviously not a newby, but I do not know
whose
sock he really is. He came from a geographical location different from both
Anonimu
(although he and his IP edited Voronin!) and Jacob Peters. Many left-wingers
know writings by Lenin; so  this is not a proof of anything.

I can submit an SPI report, but only if there is some real proof (almost
identical phrases/expressions with Peters or whatever). I do not want to
investigate him myself, since he is not a significant problem, at least for
me.



On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog <
miacek08@googlemail.com> wrote:

> A cunning fox he was ;-)
>
> I just checked this
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis&oldid=4543500
> ,
> yes, it's extremely anti-Yeltsin POVed.
>
> He seemed to be an open 'anti-neoliberal'
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:172&oldid=3271525),
> but as for communist affiliations, I'm not sure.
>
> M.
>
> On 11/05/2009, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No, 172 was an extremely biased Communist editor. He edited Robert Mugabe
> > precisely like Jacob Peters
> >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Mugabe&diff=prev&oldid=637588
> >
> > and he tried to unilaterally delete the entire article about
> > Decommunisation
> >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Decommunization_in_Russia&diff=183125655&oldid=182945938
> >
> > Also see his edits here
> >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joseph_Stalin&diff=prev&oldid=546036
> >
> > He inserts: "..credited the Stalin regime with abandoning the tsarist
> policy
> > of persecuting national minorities in favor of a policy of tolerance..."
> > without any refs (and we know what
> > Stalin actually did with minorities)
> >
> > And so on, and so on. Yes, he pretend to be a neutral editor at several
> > occasions and even fooled Ultramarine around.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog <
> > miacek08@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 172 is a different matter, he's clearly no communist he's a
> >> professional historian and seems to have retired from wiki by now
> >>
> >>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Constanz&diff=52096717&oldid=52096687
> >>
> >> M.
> >>
> >> On 11/05/2009, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 18:33, Christian Suciu
> >> > <christiansuciu@yahoo.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 95% of Anonimu's edits concerned Romania. So unless he's
> significantly
> >> >> expanded his interests, it's likely not him.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Would you consider it plausible that UsernamePassword might be what
> >> Anonimu
> >> > would be if he moved to USA to study at some East Coast university?
> >> >
> >> > If not, we'll have to concentrate on the remaining possibilities.
>  Jacob
> >> > Peters looks most promising, and Moreschi has considerable experience
> >> with
> >> > him.
> >> >
> >> > Incidentally, Hans Adler's interest in this matter is curious.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Andres Soolo
> >> >
> >>
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Back to UsernamePassword... He is obviously not a newby, but I do not know =
whose<br>sock he really is. He came from a geographical location different =
from both Anonimu<br>(although he and his IP edited Voronin!) and Jacob Pet=
ers. Many left-wingers know writings by Lenin; so=A0 this is not a proof of=
 anything. <br>
<br>I can submit an SPI report, but only if there is some real proof (almos=
t identical phrases/expressions with Peters or whatever). I do not want to =
investigate him myself, since he is not a significant problem, at least for=
 me.<br>
<br>=A0 =A0 <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:36=
 PM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:miacek08@googlemail.com">miacek08@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
A cunning fox he was ;-)<br>
<br>
I just checked this<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3D1993_Russian_constit=
utional_crisis&amp;oldid=3D4543500" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.o=
rg/w/index.php?title=3D1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis&amp;oldid=3D45435=
00</a>,<br>

yes, it&#39;s extremely anti-Yeltsin POVed.<br>
<br>
He seemed to be an open &#39;anti-neoliberal&#39;<br>
(<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser:172&amp;oldid=
=3D3271525" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DU=
ser:172&amp;oldid=3D3271525</a>),<br>
but as for communist affiliations, I&#39;m not sure.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
M.<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On 11/05/2009, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">w=
ikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; No, 172 was an extremely biased Communist editor. He edited Robert Mug=
abe<br>
&gt; precisely like Jacob Peters<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DRobert_Mugabe&a=
mp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D637588" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.or=
g/w/index.php?title=3DRobert_Mugabe&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D637588</a><=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; and he tried to unilaterally delete the entire article about<br>
&gt; Decommunisation<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DDecommunization=
_in_Russia&amp;diff=3D183125655&amp;oldid=3D182945938" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DDecommunization_in_Russia&amp;dif=
f=3D183125655&amp;oldid=3D182945938</a><br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; Also see his edits here<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DJoseph_Stalin&a=
mp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D546036" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.or=
g/w/index.php?title=3DJoseph_Stalin&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D546036</a><=
br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; He inserts: &quot;..credited the Stalin regime with abandoning the tsa=
rist policy<br>
&gt; of persecuting national minorities in favor of a policy of tolerance..=
.&quot;<br>
&gt; without any refs (and we know what<br>
&gt; Stalin actually did with minorities)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And so on, and so on. Yes, he pretend to be a neutral editor at severa=
l<br>
&gt; occasions and even fooled Ultramarine around.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog &l=
t;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:miacek08@googlemail.com">miacek08@googlemail.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 172 is a different matter, he&#39;s clearly no communist he&#39;s =
a<br>
&gt;&gt; professional historian and seems to have retired from wiki by now<=
br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk:C=
onstanz&amp;diff=3D52096717&amp;oldid=3D52096687" target=3D"_blank">http://=
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk:Constanz&amp;diff=3D52096717=
&amp;oldid=3D52096687</a><br>

&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; M.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On 11/05/2009, Digwuren &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">=
digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 18:33, Christian Suciu<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:christiansuciu@yahoo.com">christiansuci=
u@yahoo.com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 95% of Anonimu&#39;s edits concerned Romania. So unless h=
e&#39;s significantly<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; expanded his interests, it&#39;s likely not him.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Would you consider it plausible that UsernamePassword might b=
e what<br>
&gt;&gt; Anonimu<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; would be if he moved to USA to study at some East Coast unive=
rsity?<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; If not, we&#39;ll have to concentrate on the remaining possib=
ilities. =A0Jacob<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Peters looks most promising, and Moreschi has considerable ex=
perience<br>
&gt;&gt; with<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; him.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Incidentally, Hans Adler&#39;s interest in this matter is cur=
ious.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Andres Soolo<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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