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	takes for us to invite > somebody here). It depends, probably mostly on
	how organised the Cartel is. According to what I have read about the Web
	Brigades, if Cartel really is aligned with one, infiltration is likely
	to be a slow process. But if it consists just of the visible members,
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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 20:29, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:

> But this may take months (consider how long it takes for us to invite
> somebody here).


It depends, probably mostly on how organised the Cartel is.  According to
what I have read about the Web Brigades, if Cartel really is aligned with
one, infiltration is likely to be a slow process.  But if it consists just
of the visible members, perhaps with a single "older and wiser comrade" from
a three-letter agency watching from background, available to occasionally
help the main players, it can be much faster.

Identity politics works much faster than rational analysis.  If Cartel
membership hangs on *being* Russian and supporting Putin, it's easy.  If
they'll go through the behaviour checks, it's not.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 20:29, Piotr Konieczny <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">But this may take months (consider how long it takes for =
us to invite<br></div>
somebody here).</blockquote><div><br></div><div>It depends, probably mostly=
 on how organised the Cartel is. =C2=A0According to what I have read about =
the Web Brigades, if Cartel really is aligned with one, infiltration is lik=
ely to be a slow process. =C2=A0But if it consists just of the visible memb=
ers, perhaps with a single &quot;older and wiser comrade&quot; from a three=
-letter agency watching from background, available to occasionally help the=
 main players, it can be much faster.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Identity politics works much faster than rational analy=
sis. =C2=A0If Cartel membership hangs on *being* Russian and supporting Put=
in, it&#39;s easy. =C2=A0If they&#39;ll go through the behaviour checks, it=
&#39;s not.</div>
<div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0<br></div></div>Andres Soolo<br>

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