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From: "O. G." <hillock@yahoo.ca>
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	Content preview:  This rant from all sides is extremely unhelpful. I
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This rant from all sides is extremely unhelpful. I understand it is a sore =
wound with the Poles, but why do you keep scratching at it over and over ag=
ain? Let's agree that both sides are to blame, AK was just as murderous as =
the UPA. Weighing in and comparing atrocities is leading nowhere. Is there =
a scale by which we can compare Massacres in Volhynia to Operation Vistula =
or Pacifikacija? Let it go. I don't see Ukrainians ranting over the last tw=
o. Someone else (and most know who) will benefit from it. Unfortunately, ne=
ither Ukrainians and Poles will.

Hillock =


--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WPM] HELP!! Radek , Piotrus, Tymek and others.
> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
> Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:10 AM
> "> This is a very interesting
> observation. How about: "SS never engaged in
> > genocide of Poles. It simply wanted them out of German
> territories"."
> =

> In contrast to UPA German state had a clear plan how to
> exterminate
> Polish nation. UPA plans were limited to removing Polish
> population
> from ethnic Ukrainian territories-there were no plans to
> exterminate
> Polish nation, To be fair, due to ideology of UPA the
> methods involved
> were quite brutal.
> =

> 2009/8/1 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>:
> >
> >
> > "UPA never engaged in genocide of Poles. It simply
> wanted them=A0out of
> > Ukrainian territories"
> >
> > This is a very interesting observation.=A0How
> about:=A0"SS never engaged in
> > genocide of Poles. It simply wanted them=A0out of
> German territories".
> >
> > The more I read your posts, the more shocked I am.
> Looks like you know more
> > than the general consensus of historians. Where do you
> get that info?
> >
> > BTW what do you understand by Ukrainian territories
> where Poles were
> > unwanted and simply removed?
> >
> > Tymek
> >
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