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Re: Peters and Sander

> That said, with Hillary's close identification with Israel, only Obama
> could go to Egypt, make the speech he made, be taken seriously and, more
> importantly, positively in the Arab press. As Spock said to Kirk: "Only
> Nixon could go to China."
>

Yes, only Obama could speak to the Muslim ears. At least something positive
out of it.


> With reference to Bush, the Cheney crowd tried to take over the Presidency
> once with Reagan and he told them to get lost. Bush, on the other hand,...
>

People like Reagan exist once in a century.


> And if George W. Bush could be a president, anyone could.
>

Look how much has George W. Bush rise intellectually during his presidency.
It's like a D+ student ending with an A-. In a 1000 years I wouldn't be able
to grow that much. So, not everybody could BE a president. Perhaps you
wanted to say "everybody could BECOME a president". That's the beauty of
democracy: everybody can become anything. :)


> Instead of lowering the taxes for high-income (Republican solution for
> everything) he has put together a solid plan comparable to the Roosevelt's
> New Deal, he is not pumping money pointlessly to companies with a bad
> economic model such as GM.
>

But he just did that! :)

It was so easy to follow the model employed by the IMF in Eastern Europe:
break apart the company, sell off its better 1/3 to a foreign company, and
for the remaining 2/3 - lay out the employees (send them to work in farms
and construction in Italy and Spain) and liquidate the company. Radical and
efficient, and teaches people a lesson: if you know your company boss
steals, expect to loose your job in a couple years; if you want job
security, make sure you work and your co-workers also work, and your boss
also works for the company, not against it.

Also, thanks God only one third of New Deal measures were implemented (those
were good measures, I admit), otherwise there would have been a socialist
economy. Recall that 1/3 of the measures were struck down as illegal by the
Supreme Court (they were basically canceling private property and
competition), and for the remaining 1/3 even the most leftist Democrats got
scared and they were never even voted. One can go through an economic crisis
without turning to socialism. Without socialism, the crisis ends in 2 years,
with it - in 20.


> My two cents. :-) p
>

 mine two, as well :) Dorin

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Re: Peters and Sander<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=
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<div>That said, with Hillary&#39;s close identification with Israel, only O=
bama=20
could go to Egypt, make the speech he made, be taken seriously and, more=20
importantly, positively in the Arab press. As Spock said to Kirk: &quot;Onl=
y Nixon=20
could go to China.&quot;</div>
<div></div></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, only Obama co=
uld speak to the Muslim ears. At least something positive out of it.</div><=
div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Arial"><font face=3D=
"Arial" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2"><div>=A0</div>
<div>With reference to Bush, the Cheney crowd tried to take over the Presid=
ency=20
once with Reagan and he told them to get lost. Bush, on the other hand,...<=
/div>
<div></div></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>People like Reagan=
 exist once in a century.</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;=
">
<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Arial"><font face=3D=
"Arial" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2"><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: arial; border-collapse: collapse; ">And if George W. =
Bush could be a president, anyone could.</span></div>
</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Look how much has George W. B=
ush rise intellectually during his presidency. It&#39;s like a D+ student e=
nding with an A-. In a 1000 years I wouldn&#39;t be able to grow that much.=
 So, not everybody could BE a president. Perhaps you wanted to say &quot;ev=
erybody could BECOME a president&quot;. That&#39;s the beauty of democracy:=
 everybody can become anything. :)</div>
<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"font-size:10pt;=
color:#000000;font-family:Arial"><font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000000" siz=
e=3D"2"><div>
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: arial; border-collap=
se: collapse; ">Instead of lowering the taxes for high-income (Republican s=
olution for everything) he has put together a solid plan comparable to the =
Roosevelt&#39;s New Deal, he is not pumping money pointlessly to companies =
with a bad economic model such as GM.</span></div>

<div></div></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>But he just did th=
at! :)</div><div><br></div><div>It was so easy to follow the model employed=
 by the IMF in Eastern Europe: break apart the company, sell off its better=
 1/3 to a foreign company, and for the remaining 2/3 - lay out the employee=
s (send them to work in farms and construction in Italy and Spain) and liqu=
idate the company. Radical and efficient, and teaches people a lesson: if y=
ou know your company boss steals, expect to loose your job in a couple year=
s; if you want job security, make sure you work and your co-workers also wo=
rk, and your boss also works for the company, not against it.=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, thanks God only one third of New Deal measures we=
re implemented (those were good measures, I admit), otherwise there would h=
ave been a socialist economy. Recall that 1/3 of the measures were struck d=
own as illegal by the Supreme Court (they were basically canceling private =
property and competition), and for the remaining 1/3 even the most leftist =
Democrats got scared and they were never even voted. One can go through an =
economic crisis without turning to socialism. Without socialism, the crisis=
 ends in 2 years, with it - in 20.</div>
<div>=A0<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: Arial; ">=A0=
</span></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style=3D"font-size:10pt;c=
olor:#000000;font-family:Arial">
<font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2">
<div>My two cents. :-) p</div></font><div></div></div></blockquote><div><br=
></div><div>=A0mine two, as well :) Dorin</div></div><br></div>

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