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Falls into "Germans are superior Europeans" camp. He is left-wing, claimed
to study in Wroc=B3aw. Supports extreme left in Poland, considers all claim=
s
of communist involvment of Polish left figureheads "propaganda" or "undue".
He was furious when facts about Bauman's role in fighting for Stalinists in
Poland. Considers  Poles writing about this or German nationalism to be
"Radio Maryja fanatics" who are antisemities. In short-he uses common Germa=
n
stereotype to denounce anybody coming from Poland not confirming to his
world view. He is prone to insults and insulting remarks-so you can likely
get him after a while to fall under sanctions if you start discussing some
topics with him.

Note that he confirms the radicalisation theory. While left-wing, during
discussions about Nazi history he started defending certain aspects of that
history and accusing Poles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Invasion_of_Poland_(1939)&=
diff=3Dprev&oldid=3D221438891

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Invasion_of_Poland_(1939)&=
diff=3Dprev&oldid=3D220572742

As well as supporting German nationalists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Polish_death_camp_controve=
rsy&diff=3Dprev&oldid=3D285828213

He will also oppose any claim that there is nationalism in Germany or that
Germans care for national issues, including removal of such information
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DAnti-Polish_sentiment&diff=3Dpr=
ev&oldid=3D20635345


2009/6/17 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>

> jacurek@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I was just wondering if you guys can comment on user Thorsten1
> > _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thorsten1_.
> > Who is this guy? He seems to be interested in Polish related articles,
> > claims to speak Polish but at the same time he is so anti-Polish. Your
> > experience and comments regarding him would be appreciated. Thanks guys=
.
>
> He was inactive in Polish topics for quite a long time, he almost never
> initiates conflicts (content or otherwise) and overall I consider him
> just a "minor pest". Perhaps Molobo will know more, as it seems T1
> really "has it in" for him. Hopefully with Molobo's ban T1 will go back
> to doing whatever it is that he usually does, and stop bothering us.
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> theory."
>
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Falls into &quot;Germans are superior Europeans&quot; camp. He is left-wing=
, claimed to study in Wroc=B3aw. Supports extreme left in Poland, considers=
 all claims of communist involvment of Polish left figureheads &quot;propag=
anda&quot; or &quot;undue&quot;. He was furious when facts about Bauman&#39=
;s role in fighting for Stalinists in Poland. Considers=A0 Poles writing ab=
out this or German nationalism to be &quot;Radio Maryja fanatics&quot; who =
are antisemities. In short-he uses common German stereotype to denounce any=
body coming from Poland not confirming to his world view. He is prone to in=
sults and insulting remarks-so you can likely get him after a while to fall=
 under sanctions if you start discussing some topics with him. <br>
<br>Note that he confirms the radicalisation theory. While left-wing, durin=
g discussions about Nazi history he started defending certain aspects of th=
at history and accusing Poles:<br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/=
index.php?title=3DTalk:Invasion_of_Poland_(1939)&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=
=3D221438891">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Invasion_of_=
Poland_(1939)&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D221438891</a><br>
<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Invasion_of=
_Poland_(1939)&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D220572742">http://en.wikipedia.o=
rg/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Invasion_of_Poland_(1939)&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;o=
ldid=3D220572742</a><br>
<br>As well as supporting German nationalists:<br><a href=3D"http://en.wiki=
pedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Polish_death_camp_controversy&amp;diff=
=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D285828213">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3D=
Talk:Polish_death_camp_controversy&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D285828213</a=
><br>
<br>He will also oppose any claim that there is nationalism in Germany or t=
hat Germans care for national issues, including removal of such information=
<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DAnti-Polish_sent=
iment&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D20635345">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index=
.php?title=3DAnti-Polish_sentiment&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D20635345</a>=
<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/17 Piotr Konieczny <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><a href=3D"mailto:jacurek@yahoo.com">jacu=
rek@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<br>
&gt; I was just wondering if you guys can comment on user Thorsten1<br>
&gt; _<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thorsten1_" target=
=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Thorsten1_</a>.<br>
&gt; Who is this guy? He seems to be interested in Polish related articles,=
<br>
&gt; claims to speak Polish but at the same time he is so anti-Polish. Your=
<br>
&gt; experience and comments regarding him would be appreciated. Thanks guy=
s.<br>
<br>
</div></div>He was inactive in Polish topics for quite a long time, he almo=
st never<br>
initiates conflicts (content or otherwise) and overall I consider him<br>
just a &quot;minor pest&quot;. Perhaps Molobo will know more, as it seems T=
1<br>
really &quot;has it in&quot; for him. Hopefully with Molobo&#39;s ban T1 wi=
ll go back<br>
to doing whatever it is that he usually does, and stop bothering us.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Piotr Konieczny<br>
<br>
&quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
<br>
theory.&quot;<br>
<br>
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