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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 01:54, O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> PS I wouldn't be surprised if Russia were clandestinely financing people =
in
> Poland bringing this issue over and over again. Just a guess...


Let me share an interesting incident from Estonian recent politics.

Estonian border with Soviet Russia after WWI was defined by the Tartu Peace
Treaty.  Roughly, it was originally drawn following the border of Estonian
and Livonian Governorate, but shifted one cannonshot towards East as a
defensive buffer (after all, Estonia was the winner of the War of
Independence).  This meant that some territories to the West of Narva
(called Narvataguse or 'the land behind Narva', including the whole of
Ivangorod, or Jaanilinn) and the region of Petseri or Pechora were
territories of Republic of Estonia.

When USSR occupied Estonia, it set up the Estonian SSR, and Stalin made a
point of drawing ESSR's borders so that Narvataguse and Petseri would be on
the Russian, not Estonian side.

When USSR fell apart, the question of "shifted" border raised time and
again, and for many years blocked the possibility of Estonia and Russia
agreeing on the proper place of the border.  (In fact, there is still no
proper border between Estonia and Russia; there's "temporary line of
control".)  Some political analysts thought that the "unresolved border
issue" would hamper Estonia's accession with EU, and that this might be why
Russia kept its up.  It appears it was somewhat of a distraction in the EU
accession process, but not enough to keep the caravan from going.

A few years ago -- as you note, after Estonia's EU membership --, Estonian
politicians finally decided that the one cannonshot of land is not worth al=
l
that hassle, and gave in to Russian demands.  This led to *signing* of a ne=
w
border treaty (or "the border treaty", depending on source's biases) betwee=
n
Estonian MFA Paet and Russian MFA Lavrov.  The treaty is not particularly
popular in Estonia, mainly for two reasons:
* there are many people -- mostly, ethnic Estonians -- who believe that the
Tartu Treaty, being a foundational document for the Republic, should be hel=
d
sacrosanct.  (And, well, rigidity in politics and unwillingness to haggle
are stereotypical Estonian traits -- lampooned by writers already more than
a century ago and repeatedly ever since.  The clown who dared to write a
five-volume epic novel based on this theme we had to put onto the 25-EEK
banknote in retrobution.)
* the Seto people (and to a lesser degree, the V=C3=B5ro people) who live i=
n
Southeast Estonia have their territory divided in two under the ESSR border
placement, but much lesser so under the Tartu Treaty border placement.  It'=
s
rather inconvenient to have relatives  buried on graveyards that are not fa=
r
from each other but separated by a border, after all.

The border treaty is still not in force.  For it to go into force, it would
after signing need to be ratified by Estonian and Russian parliaments.
Riigikogu ratified it by passing an Act that in its preamble explained the
situation and stated that in accordance with the Constitution and the Tartu
Treaty's provisions, Estonian territory's borders are being changed through
the ratification of the treaty.  Russian State Duma declared that it's
unhappy about the preamble, that it doesn't like Tartu Treaty being
mentioned in it at all, and on this whimsy pretext refused to ratify the
treaty.

Under USSR's rule, the Pechora lands were pretty much of a periphery, and
immigration was relatively small there.  Narvataguse, however, became a par=
t
of the Leningrad Oblast, and has tens of thousands of Soviet migrants livin=
g
in it.

So, that's the background.  Now, on to the incident.

In Estonia, there's a party that's to a significant degree supported by
ethnic Russian votes and that is known to have a secret "compact of
cooperation" with United Russia.  The party is lead by an old politician --
who was "merely" an experienced politician back in late 1980s -- who has
penchant for dirty tricks (and at least once has promised to "withdraw from
politics for good" when caught).  As an old politician, he naturally
maintains a blog.

A few weeks ago, he hinted on the blog that the current non-ratified border
treaty with Russia is not good enough, and posted a map of Estonia in its
Tartu Treaty borders to illustrate it.  It caused a lot of dramu, renewing
hopes of people who would prefer the one cannonshot of land to belong to
Estonia -- and analysts were quick to point out that (1) due to the
"friendly relationship" between that party and United Russia, this is prett=
y
much the only politician who has even a chance at managing to get Russia to
agree to the Tartu Treaty borders, and (2) neither such a new border treaty
nor such a blog hinting would happen without consultation and consent of
"our Russian comrades" -- that is to say, the leadership apparatus of Unite=
d
Russia.

So, it would seem that Russia is clandestinely using that party to revisit
that Politically Inconvenient Issue.  It has mutual benefits, naturally --
by revisitation from the proper angle, the party is likely get some extra
votes in the upcoming election.

It's also ironic and interesting that in the unlikely case that a new treat=
y
based on Tartu Treaty borders were to be negotiated, it would benefit Russi=
a
more than Estonia.  In particular, people living in the "disputed
territories" -- as you recall, mostly Soviet-era Russophone migrants --
would gain voting rights; some at national level and all at municipal
level.  This, in turn, would mean that by ceding to Estonia the lands that
Estonia has already given up, Russia would *increase* its political
influence in North-East Estonia.  Considering that the formerly disputed
land has little natural resources (mostly, forest and the fish in Peipsi)
but quite a bit of industrial pollution -- somewhat similar to the state of
Karelia after half a century of Soviet rule --, it's quite a gambit.  In th=
e
worst-case scenario, the legal influx of Russian Federation's citizens into
Narva county might even give a boost to people like Mishin and Linter who
have wanted to set up a country of their own in the mineral-rich North-East
Estonia since 1990; an ambition they have been supporting by appealing to
the supposed hardships faced by Russophone people living in Estonia.  And
whom would creation of a new Transnistria benefit?

--=20
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 01:54, O. G. <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hillock@yahoo.ca">hillock@yahoo.ca</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
PS I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if Russia were clandestinely financing peopl=
e in Poland bringing this issue over and over again. Just a guess...</block=
quote><div><br>Let me share an interesting incident from Estonian recent po=
litics.<br>
<br>Estonian border with Soviet Russia after WWI was defined by the Tartu P=
eace Treaty.=C2=A0 Roughly, it was originally drawn following the border of=
 Estonian and Livonian Governorate, but shifted one cannonshot towards East=
 as a defensive buffer (after all, Estonia was the winner of the War of Ind=
ependence).=C2=A0 This meant that some territories to the West of Narva (ca=
lled Narvataguse or &#39;the land behind Narva&#39;, including the whole of=
 Ivangorod, or Jaanilinn) and the region of Petseri or Pechora were territo=
ries of Republic of Estonia.<br>
<br>When USSR occupied Estonia, it set up the Estonian SSR, and Stalin made=
 a point of drawing ESSR&#39;s borders so that Narvataguse and Petseri woul=
d be on the Russian, not Estonian side.<br><br>When USSR fell apart, the qu=
estion of &quot;shifted&quot; border raised time and again, and for many ye=
ars blocked the possibility of Estonia and Russia agreeing on the proper pl=
ace of the border.=C2=A0 (In fact, there is still no proper border between =
Estonia and Russia; there&#39;s &quot;temporary line of control&quot;.)=C2=
=A0 Some political analysts thought that the &quot;unresolved border issue&=
quot; would hamper Estonia&#39;s accession with EU, and that this might be =
why Russia kept its up.=C2=A0 It appears it was somewhat of a distraction i=
n the EU accession process, but not enough to keep the caravan from going.<=
br>
<br>A few years ago -- as you note, after Estonia&#39;s EU membership --, E=
stonian politicians finally decided that the one cannonshot of land is not =
worth all that hassle, and gave in to Russian demands.=C2=A0 This led to *s=
igning* of a new border treaty (or &quot;the border treaty&quot;, depending=
 on source&#39;s biases) between Estonian MFA Paet and Russian MFA Lavrov.=
=C2=A0 The treaty is not particularly popular in Estonia, mainly for two re=
asons:<br>
* there are many people -- mostly, ethnic Estonians -- who believe that the=
 Tartu Treaty, being a foundational document for the Republic, should be he=
ld sacrosanct.=C2=A0 (And, well, rigidity in politics and unwillingness to =
haggle are stereotypical Estonian traits -- lampooned by writers already mo=
re than a century ago and repeatedly ever since.=C2=A0 The clown who dared =
to write a five-volume epic novel based on this theme we had to put onto th=
e 25-EEK banknote in retrobution.)<br>
* the Seto people (and to a lesser degree, the V=C3=B5ro people) who live i=
n Southeast Estonia have their territory divided in two under the ESSR bord=
er placement, but much lesser so under the Tartu Treaty border placement.=
=C2=A0 It&#39;s rather inconvenient to have relatives=C2=A0 buried on grave=
yards that are not far from each other but separated by a border, after all=
.<br>
<br>The border treaty is still not in force.=C2=A0 For it to go into force,=
 it would after signing need to be ratified by Estonian and Russian parliam=
ents.=C2=A0 Riigikogu ratified it by passing an Act that in its preamble ex=
plained the situation and stated that in accordance with the Constitution a=
nd the Tartu Treaty&#39;s provisions, Estonian territory&#39;s borders are =
being changed through the ratification of the treaty.=C2=A0 Russian State D=
uma declared that it&#39;s unhappy about the preamble, that it doesn&#39;t =
like Tartu Treaty being mentioned in it at all, and on this whimsy pretext =
refused to ratify the treaty.<br>
<br>Under USSR&#39;s rule, the Pechora lands were pretty much of a peripher=
y, and immigration was relatively small there.=C2=A0 Narvataguse, however, =
became a part of the Leningrad Oblast, and has tens of thousands of Soviet =
migrants living in it.<br>
<br>So, that&#39;s the background.=C2=A0 Now, on to the incident.<br><br>In=
 Estonia, there&#39;s a party that&#39;s to a significant degree supported =
by ethnic Russian votes and that is known to have a secret &quot;compact of=
 cooperation&quot; with United Russia.=C2=A0 The party is lead by an old po=
litician -- who was &quot;merely&quot; an experienced politician back in la=
te 1980s -- who has penchant for dirty tricks (and at least once has promis=
ed to &quot;withdraw from politics for good&quot; when caught).=C2=A0 As an=
 old politician, he naturally maintains a blog.<br>
<br>A few weeks ago, he hinted on the blog that the current non-ratified bo=
rder treaty with Russia is not good enough, and posted a map of Estonia in =
its Tartu Treaty borders to illustrate it.=C2=A0 It caused a lot of dramu, =
renewing hopes of people who would prefer the one cannonshot of land to bel=
ong to Estonia -- and analysts were quick to point out that (1) due to the =
&quot;friendly relationship&quot; between that party and United Russia, thi=
s is pretty much the only politician who has even a chance at managing to g=
et Russia to agree to the Tartu Treaty borders, and (2) neither such a new =
border treaty nor such a blog hinting would happen without consultation and=
 consent of &quot;our Russian comrades&quot; -- that is to say, the leaders=
hip apparatus of United Russia.<br>
<br>So, it would seem that Russia is clandestinely using that party to revi=
sit that Politically Inconvenient Issue.=C2=A0 It has mutual benefits, natu=
rally -- by revisitation from the proper angle, the party is likely get som=
e extra votes in the upcoming election.<br>
<br>It&#39;s also ironic and interesting that in the unlikely case that a n=
ew treaty based on Tartu Treaty borders were to be negotiated, it would ben=
efit Russia more than Estonia.=C2=A0 In particular, people living in the &q=
uot;disputed territories&quot; -- as you recall, mostly Soviet-era Russopho=
ne migrants -- would gain voting rights; some at national level and all at =
municipal level.=C2=A0 This, in turn, would mean that by ceding to Estonia =
the lands that Estonia has already given up, Russia would *increase* its po=
litical influence in North-East Estonia.=C2=A0 Considering that the formerl=
y disputed land has little natural resources (mostly, forest and the fish i=
n Peipsi) but quite a bit of industrial pollution -- somewhat similar to th=
e state of Karelia after half a century of Soviet rule --, it&#39;s quite a=
 gambit.=C2=A0 In the worst-case scenario, the legal influx of Russian Fede=
ration&#39;s citizens into Narva county might even give a boost to people l=
ike Mishin and Linter who have wanted to set up a country of their own in t=
he mineral-rich North-East Estonia since 1990; an ambition they have been s=
upporting by appealing to the supposed hardships faced by Russophone people=
 living in Estonia.=C2=A0 And whom would creation of a new Transnistria ben=
efit?<br>
<br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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