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Yes, sure, please speak freely about everything. It is also fine to think
that I am slightly paranoid (and perhaps I am). "Public internet sites"  - I
mean wikipedia. Of course I consider everyone here to be a trustful person.
Just also keep in mind that everything we consider secret might became
public one day.

Sorry,

Andrei

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wrote:

> Andrei,
>
> There are 11 people in our mail list. To a certain degree we know each
> other. Over the last half a year I only wrote to our list from 3 different
> computers: my laptop, my computer at work, and my sister's computer. I never
> mentioned my name in the open on WP. There can be no leak unless they know
> exactly whom to follow, and manage to log in into that computer. I don't
> think my email is on the radar of some KGB-like organization. I told nobody
> about our list, to no friends, to no relatives. There are 4 other people
> (former or curent WP editors) who know (three of them might have already
> forgotten) that Dc76 = me, but all four have absolutely no idea about this
> list. More or less the same situation is for the rest of us. So, I see no
> realistic possibility of leak of any sort, unless one of us specifically
> tells somebody.
>
> However, I totally agree with you that "they take public internet sites
> about THEM very seriously". I suggest common sense precaution.
>
> Unless they know what they are after, they will never find anything. 90-95%
> of the messages we exchange here can be put in the open without any worry.
> The remaining 5% might contain at most a sentense or two that might be
> subject to interpretation. For example when I asked for support in regard to
> Moldovan language issue, which is among the 5%, I got 3 or 4 more supports
> from here (but among those, Peters and Cristian were also interested in the
> disupte and followed the topic anyway, so I only got one more net support.
> We won not by one vote, but overwhelmingly, because nobody could say
> anything serious against our arguments, not because of votting itself.)
>
> My real life experience suggests that what KGB-like minded people are after
> today is not persection for the sake of persecution but for the sake of
> intimidation.
>
> Common sense precaution is definitively needed, for we are stepping on
> the shoes of some very peculiar individuals, but what else more than common
> sense? I don't like to self-cesure myself, I would never do that. I don't
> intend to succomb to intimidation. What is on my mind I will speak freely
> (inteligently but freely), even if I have to pay for this.
>
> Dorin
>
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Yes, sure, please speak freely about everything. It is also fine to think t=
hat I am slightly paranoid (and perhaps I am). &quot;Public internet sites&=
quot;=A0 - I mean wikipedia. Of course I consider everyone here to be a tru=
stful person.=A0 Just also keep in mind that everything we consider secret =
might became public one day.<br>
<br>Sorry,<br><br>Andrei<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 27, =
2009 at 4:58 PM, Dorin Cheptea <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dori=
n.cheptea@gmail.com">dorin.cheptea@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, =
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Andrei,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>There are 11 people in our mail list. To a certain degree we know each=
 other. Over the last half a year I only wrote to=A0our list=A0from 3 diffe=
rent computers: my laptop, my computer at work, and my sister&#39;s compute=
r. I never mentioned my name in the open on WP. There can be no leak unless=
 they know exactly whom to follow, and manage to log in into that computer.=
 I don&#39;t think my email is on the radar of some KGB-like organization. =
I told nobody about our list, to no friends, to no relatives. There are=A04=
 other people (former or curent WP editors)=A0who know (three of them might=
 have already forgotten) that Dc76 =3D me, but all=A0four have absolutely n=
o idea about this list.=A0More or less the same situation is for the rest o=
f us. So, I see no realistic possibility of leak of any sort, unless one of=
 us specifically tells somebody. </div>


<div>=A0</div>
<div>However, I totally agree with you that &quot;they take public internet=
 sites about THEM very seriously&quot;. I suggest common sense precaution. =
</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Unless they know what they are after, they will never find anything. 9=
0-95% of the messages we exchange here can be put in the open without any w=
orry. The remaining 5% might contain at most=A0a sentense or two that might=
 be subject to interpretation. For example when I asked for support=A0in re=
gard to Moldovan language issue, which is among the 5%,=A0I got=A03 or 4 mo=
re supports from here (but among those, Peters and Cristian were also inter=
ested in the disupte and followed the topic anyway, so I=A0only got one mor=
e net support. We won not by one=A0vote, but overwhelmingly, because=A0nobo=
dy could say anything serious=A0against our arguments, not because of votti=
ng itself.)=A0</div>


<div>=A0</div>
<div>My real life experience suggests that what KGB-like minded people are =
after today is not persection for the sake of persecution but for the sake =
of intimidation.<br><br>Common sense precaution is definitively needed, for=
 we are stepping on the=A0shoes of some=A0very peculiar individuals, but wh=
at else more than common sense? I don&#39;t like to self-cesure myself, I w=
ould never do that. I=A0don&#39;t intend to=A0succomb to intimidation.=A0Wh=
at is on my mind I will speak freely (inteligently but freely), even if I h=
ave to pay for this.</div>


<div>=A0</div><font color=3D"#888888">
<div>Dorin</div>
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