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I explained the same thing to Martin and Digwuren recently. Most of
Russavia's contributions are IMHO encyclopedic and ok. The approach
I'd try with the user is to encourage him to just work on his
favourite topics. He agreed to join me on 1993 Russian constitutional
crisis once he'll get more free time. We'll see. He's radically
pro-Putin, but not what I'd call a ''radical Russian patriot''. I'd
keep the latter category for ''national-patriotic'' users of the type
of Ghirlandajo, Grafikm_fr, RCJG, Kuban kazak, Miyokan, who all
fortunately seem to be gone from the English Wikipedia. Irpen was
something in between, but I can't say I miss him.

Miacek and his crime-fighting dog.

On 21/03/2009, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/3/21 <PetersJV@aol.com>
>
>>  By all acounts, Russavia has been a productive WP editor since 2005,
>> especially in improving the quality and quantity of articles regarding
>> various topics related to Russia:
>> *Russian aviation: airlines, airports, airplanes
>>
>
> I agree with that.  I see this sort of thing in his contribution list a lot,
> and most of the time, it's fine.
>
> But how would it figure into the message for Jehochman's talkpage you
> mentioned?
>
> The downturn started with the 2008 war between Russia and Georgia over South
>> Ossetia, [
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2008_South_Ossetia_war&diff=prev&oldid=233945097maintaining
>> that NPOV balance means one part the world, one part Russia],
>> and that ''Russian denial'' of occupation therefore means one cannot name
>> an
>> article section as dealing with Russian occupation, followed closely by [
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2008_South_Ossetia_war&diff=prev&oldid=233945623allegations
>> of "yet another Russia hate-fest article."]
>>
>
> In other words, a significant amount of major differences between Russian
> news and Western news led him to a frustrating case of cognitive dissonance,
> and he resolved it by becoming a radical Russian patriot.  Things like this
> are common on Wikipedia, which says quite a bit about Wikipedia's
> dysfunctionality.
>
> Unfortunately, due to the very same dysfunctionality, we're prohibited from
> explaining this effect on Wikipedia.  So, how does it help us?
>
> P. S. See [
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement&diff=278751468&oldid=278748935],
> a post by me on AE regarding Jehochman's grudge.  Is it over the top?
>  Should I remove it?
>
> --
> Andres Soolo
>

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