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Amusingly, I find myself defending the communist era sources; my 
opponent is so desperate that he has even created this nice template:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Communist_era_sources

Am I the KGB plant? :)

Seriously, the story is as follows:
I and Molobo (well, mostly Molobo) have expanded 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_Nazi_Germany 
article. As you may know, Molobo likes to stress the issue of Polish 
suffering and has created/added to many articles on this subject 
(whether all of his additions to this article are appropriate is another 
issue I've raised on talk of that article). Anyway, what it all boils 
down to is the simple fact that a lot of Polish sources date to 
communist era - and our Nazi... I mean, German whitewashing... I mean, 
neutral editors interested in portraying the human side of Germany 
during WWII (sic!) are trying their best to remove all of those sources.

There is a thread at RSN:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Reliability_of_sources_published_in_Communist_Poland
and at article's talk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Polish_areas_annexed_by_Nazi_Germany#Sources_published_during_the_Communist_era
As far as I can tell, consensus is that those sources are sometimes 
acceptable, but the creation of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Communist_era_sources
may really stir the matters up: this template can be a useful tool or a 
dangerous one. I think it may be a good opportunity to add some general 
anti-totalitarian era sources notes to WP:RS, but on the other hand, we 
have to keep in mind a lot of those sources that didn't deal with the 
issues of party line/marxism/propaganda/state secrets were rather 
reliable (I'd still like to see the "Soviet historiography" article 
expanded to discuss which parts of Soviet h. were/are respected and 
reliable...

Anyway, I'd recommend looking at the above links and joining/starting 
discussions. And something needs to be done with that template... it may 
be amusing to steer our Russian cabal towards it and let them have it 
out with the Nazi one over it, and just watch the sparks fly from the 
distance :D

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