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Tymek=2C I appreciate your desire to promote the spirit of camaraderie and =
understanding among the multinational members of our club=2C just like I tr=
easure your opinion in this matter=2C but I also believe that we=2C as a gr=
oup=2C have enough brain power available to us=2C to influence certain deve=
lopments in Eastern European corner of English Wikipedia to our mutual adva=
ntage.=20

=20

My question is=2C would anybody here be willing to persuade Bandurist as a =
friend-in-need=2C to ease up on the history of Polish presence in Volhynia=
=2C and stop with his aggravations? If you think that Bandurist has a poten=
tial for becoming a valuable editor=2C and you have his trust please explai=
n to him that his wave of anti-Polish provocations must stop or he will be =
in trouble.=20

=20

Richard (Poeticbent) Tylman
=20


Date: Sun=2C 23 Aug 2009 18:39:14 -0700
From: basiaipiotr@yahoo.com
To: folks@wikipedometer.net
Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist






Generally=2C I am not in favor of arbitrations=2C banning of users=2C and a=
ll that crap. The only exceptions were Boodlesthecat and Mordoor=2C two Jew=
ish-Communist assholes=2C whom all Polish editors remember too well. Well=
=2C Polish Jewry is another story=2C unrelated to the one here.
=20
Anyway=2C the thing is that the Ukrainians=2C the Russians=2C the Germans=
=2C the Lithuanians=2C the Poles=2C and all other nationalities have their =
own histories=2C and none is better than any other. I may disagree with som=
e Germans=2C Russians or some Ukrainians=2C and I totally disagree with Mol=
obo=2C who happens to be Polish. Still=2C the last thing on my mind is to t=
ry to get anyone banned.=20
=20
The Germans were the murderers=2C as well as the Ukrainians=2C and the Russ=
ians=2C and the Poles=2C and they all were victims as well. We cannot and s=
hould not expect history of Eastern Europe to be written from Polish POV on=
ly. Poeticbent=2C please change your stance.
=20
Tymek
=20


--- On Sun=2C 8/23/09=2C Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Sunday=2C August 23=2C 2009=2C 4:29 PM






Agree with Piotrus on this one=2C we should absolutely settle our differenc=
es here and act united.=20
P.S.
I'm getting better=2C less pain but still typing with one finger.
Jacek   =20

--- On Sun=2C 8/23/09=2C Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:


From: Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>
Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Sunday=2C August 23=2C 2009=2C 11:47 AM


Andrei Dombay wrote:
> To Richard Tylman=2C
>=20
> Although Bandurist has strong Ukrainian nationalistic views=2C I would=20
> advise against opening an RfC case about him=2C if that is what you mean.=
 =20
> He was good in keeping certain Soviet trolls at bay=2C and this seems to=
=20
> be an unnecessary confrontation.

I'd prefer to avoid showing off Polish-Ukrainian conflict in public=2C to=20
avoid weakening us against other editors.

What I'd suggest is that the evidence against Bandurist is presented=20
here=2C and discussed=2C and that our Ukrainian members try to rein him in.

--=20
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is=2C that it just works in reality=2C not in=
=20
theory."

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Richard (Poeticbent) Tylman<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
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Date: Sun=2C 23 Aug 2009 18:39:14 -0700<BR>From: basiaipiotr@yahoo.com<BR>T=
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun=2C 8/23/09=2C Jack <I>&lt=3Bjacurek@yahoo.com&gt=
=3B</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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BR>Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt=
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<TD vAlign=3Dtop>Agree with Piotrus on this one=2C we should absolutely set=
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<DIV>P.S.</DIV>
<DIV>I'm getting better=2C less pain but still typing with one finger.</DIV=
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l&gt=3B<BR>Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistic=
s" &lt=3Bfolks@wikipedometer.net&gt=3B<BR>Date: Sunday=2C August 23=2C 2009=
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