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	have seen during the last 24 hours. I have had last night the
	(un)fortunate occasion to experience first hand something I thought
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	Lenin might remember the sceene when people are brought to police
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	age of 17 to 22, in my home town of Balti in northern Moldova. [...] 
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In regard to the recent events in Moldova.

Nihil sine Deo. I don't think Christian could find a better expression for
what I have seen during the last 24 hours.

I have had last night the (un)fortunate occasion to experience first hand
something I thought belongs to the history books. Those of you that saw the
movie Goodbye Lenin might remember the sceene when people are brought to
police station for processing by the agonizing regime of East Germany. Well,
the modern communist regime in Moldova is not as agonizing, but I had the
opportunity to experience the sceene. I spent 14 hours last night in a
police station, along about 40 other people, over half of which in the age
of 17 to 22, in my home town of Balti in northern Moldova.

I will give more details in a later message, right now I need to rest
because I couldn't sleep last night. In fact I did not participate in the
protest itself, but was just a by-stander for some time. At some point
police started to grab people with a videocamera, a photocamera or speaking
on cell phone. I witnessed 3 such grabs when the protest started to
dissipate (myself I did not have any camera), and made the mistake to call
from the square from the cell phone to tell my parents that I am comming
home in view of certain guys. This somehow placed me in the very wrong spot
at the very wrong time in the eyes of the very wrong persons. Less than a
minute later, when I was actually leaving the crowd, two guys in civilian
speaking Russian apprehended me.

I spent about 4 hours at the police station with my hands to the wall and
legs appart, along ca. 30 guys and one girl. The presence of so many people
along me (over half students, 12 graders and even under 18 years old)
actually made the experience not so shoking as it might appear when you read
this. The biggest problem was that they did not allow us to make phone calls
home. Also they tried to intimidate by shouting and threatening with
violence (but did not hit anybody I saw; they did hit a couple without
witnesses.) This strategy of intimidation did not work on me (because it was
largely done very unprofessionally), but it did on some 18-19 years old.
After 4 hours, they processed me and put in a room with 9 other protesters
to spend the night. I managed to make an incognito phone call plus my
rightful phone call alerting my parents, who by then found out themselves
that I was detained by the police.

The police accused all detained people of administrative misdids (nothing
penal), and all except two were released this morning (underage were
released during the night). (BTW, the protest was 100% non-violent.) I was
accused of insubordination to a police officer. In the morning I appeared
before a judge, and succesfully pleaded my case. The judge decided that the
case should not stand. ("Dosarul a fost clasat." in Romanian) So, there is
nothing bad on my record; it is clean. The only problem is the 14 hours,
which the police should not have detained me, and I plan to go forward to
obtain that their action was unjustified and infringed upon my (and others')
rights. Most other people got small fines (equivalent of about 2 or
5 euros).

In retrospect, it was an amazing, enriching experience, but also a very
worring one in the first hours when I could not place a call. So, I can now
call myself a tiny (14 hours) political detainee. The truth is I sincerely
did not participate in the protests, but watched them from the fringes of
the crowd. So I get "credit" mostly for free. :)

Dorin


On 07/04/2009, Christian Suciu <christiansuciu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   Draga Dorin,
>
> Ce stii? Ce se intampla? Mai esti la Balti? Am auzit ca nu mai e Internet,
> si ca au inchis frontiera. Urmaresc cu atentie situatia dar ca de obicei va
> fi interesanta perspectiva ta.
>
>
> Sa speram ca urmeaza ceva bun, dar avand in vedere ultimele alegeri din
> Belarusia, Armenia, Azerbaidjan, etc, nu stiu.
>
>
> Cu bine,
> Cristian
>
>
> Nihil sine Deo!
>
>

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<div>In regard to the recent events in Moldova.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Nihil sine Deo. I don&#39;t think Christian could=A0find a better expr=
ession for what I have seen during the last 24 hours.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I have had last night the (un)fortunate occasion to experience first h=
and something I thought belongs to the history books. Those of you that saw=
 the movie Goodbye Lenin might remember the sceene when people are brought =
to police station for processing by the agonizing regime of East Germany. W=
ell, the modern communist regime in Moldova is not as agonizing, but I had =
the opportunity to experience the sceene. I spent 14 hours last night in a =
police station, along about 40 other people, over half of which=A0in the ag=
e of 17 to 22, in my home town of Balti in northern Moldova. </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>I will give more details in a later message, right now I need to rest =
because I couldn&#39;t sleep last night. In fact I did not participate in t=
he protest itself, but was just a by-stander for some time. At some point p=
olice started to grab people=A0with a videocamera, a photocamera=A0or speak=
ing on cell phone. I witnessed 3 such grabs when the protest started to dis=
sipate (myself I did not have any camera), and made the mistake to call fro=
m the=A0square from the cell phone to tell my parents that I am comming hom=
e in view of certain guys. This somehow placed me in the very wrong spot at=
 the very wrong time in the eyes of the very wrong persons. Less than a min=
ute later, when I was actually leaving the crowd, two guys in civilian spea=
king Russian apprehended me. </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>I spent about 4 hours at the police station with my hands to the wall =
and legs appart, along ca. 30 guys and one girl. The presence of so many pe=
ople along me (over half students, 12 graders and even under 18 years old) =
actually made the experience not so shoking as it might appear when you rea=
d this. The biggest problem was that they did not allow us to make phone ca=
lls home. Also they tried to intimidate by shouting and threatening with vi=
olence (but did not hit anybody=A0I saw; they did hit a couple without witn=
esses.) This strategy of intimidation did not work on me (because it was la=
rgely done very unprofessionally), but it did on some 18-19 years old. Afte=
r 4 hours, they processed me and put in a room with 9 other protesters to s=
pend the night. I managed to make an incognito phone call plus my rightful =
phone call alerting my parents, who by then found out themselves that I was=
 detained by the police. </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>The police accused all detained people of administrative misdids (noth=
ing penal), and all except two were released this morning (underage were re=
leased during the night). (BTW, the protest was 100% non-violent.) I was ac=
cused of insubordination to a police officer. In the morning I appeared bef=
ore a judge, and succesfully pleaded my case. The judge decided that the ca=
se should not stand. (&quot;Dosarul a fost clasat.&quot; in Romanian) So, t=
here is nothing bad on my record; it is clean. The only problem is the 14 h=
ours, which=A0the police should not have detained me, and I plan to go forw=
ard to obtain that their action was unjustified and=A0infringed upon my (an=
d others&#39;) rights.=A0Most other people got small fines (equivalent of a=
bout 2 or 5=A0euros).</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>In retrospect, it was an amazing, enriching=A0experience, but also a v=
ery worring one in the first hours when I could not place a call. So,=A0I c=
an now call myself a tiny (14 hours) political detainee. The truth is I sin=
cerely did not participate in the protests, but watched them from the fring=
es of the crowd. So I get &quot;credit&quot; mostly for free. :)</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Dorin<br><br>=A0</div>
<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 07/04/2009, <b class=3D"gmail_sendernam=
e">Christian Suciu</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:christiansuciu@yahoo.com">chri=
stiansuciu@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
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px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign=3D"top">Draga Dorin,=20
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div>Ce stii? Ce se intampla? Mai esti la Balti? Am auzit ca nu mai e Inter=
net, si ca au inchis frontiera. Urmaresc cu atentie situatia dar ca de obic=
ei va fi interesanta perspectiva ta.</div>
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div>Sa speram ca urmeaza ceva bun, dar avand in vedere ultimele alegeri di=
n Belarusia, Armenia, Azerbaidjan, etc, nu stiu.</div>
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div>Cu bine,</div>
<div>Cristian</div>
<div><br>=A0</div>
<div>Nihil sine Deo!</div></td></tr></tbody></table><br></blockquote></div>=
<br>

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