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On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 05:36, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:

> Martin wrote:
> > I note that Russavia is tagging may topics, like [[Occupation of the
> > Baltic states]] as Wikiproject_Russia, Shouldn't it really be tagged
> > Wikiproject_Soviet_Union?
>
> I don't think such a WikiProject exists...

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Soviet_Union>.  I'm even
a member.

Btw, I do think we may be assuming to much, hmmm, cabal behind Russavia.
> Really, he is no more active than I am, for example.


You're a geek; he is not.  When a non-geek behaves as though he has got OCD,
there's got to be *something* behind it. Such as his having OCD ...

Besides, do we know that you don't have a cabal? ;)

And seriously, if any country wanted to manage Wikipedia properly, they
> would be doing a much better job than Russavia and the few others
> amateurish USSR Forever cabalists and friends.


Right.  That's quite a conundrum.

But then again, Nashi wasn't too effective when stalking the British
ambassador, either.  Pokazuha effect?

For a cost of 4-5 officials/agents, you can hire that many full hour
> smart editors, who would have time aplenty to create/adjust content, up
> to and including possible FAs, get adminship and weight in and likely
> dominate most subject areas. Seriously, consider what I was able to do,
> and that's in my spare time (although I am highly addicted to the
> Wiki... :D). And if you get restricted/banned, you have funds aplenty to
> get a different ISP / computer / whatever. Heck, they could be rotating
> agents and everything. You don't even need to dabble to much in
> controversial articles, there is a ton of uncontroversial Russia article
> that could be promoted to DYKs/FAs and thus improve Russia image that
> way.


This is a good point: actual agents would behave more like Kirill or Alex
Bakharev, and prefer to stay out of wikidramu.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 05:36, Piotr Konieczny <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Martin wrote:<br>
&gt; I note that Russavia is tagging may topics, like [[Occupation of the<b=
r>
&gt; Baltic states]] as Wikiproject_Russia, Shouldn&#39;t it really be tagg=
ed<br>
&gt; Wikiproject_Soviet_Union?<br>
<br>
</div>I don&#39;t think such a WikiProject exists...</blockquote><div>&lt;<=
a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Soviet_Union">=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Soviet_Union</a>&gt;. =
=C2=A0I&#39;m even a member.</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Btw, I do think we may be as=
suming to much, hmmm, cabal behind Russavia.<br>
Really, he is no more active than I am, for example.</blockquote><div><br><=
/div><div>You&#39;re a geek; he is not. =C2=A0When a non-geek behaves as th=
ough he has got OCD, there&#39;s got to be *something* behind it. Such as h=
is having OCD ...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Besides, do we know that you don&#39;t have a cabal? ;)=
</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">And seriously, if any =
country wanted to manage Wikipedia properly, they<br>

would be doing a much better job than Russavia and the few others<br>
amateurish USSR Forever cabalists and friends.</blockquote><div><br></div><=
div>Right. =C2=A0That&#39;s quite a conundrum.</div><div><br></div><div>But=
 then again, Nashi wasn&#39;t too effective when stalking the British ambas=
sador, either. =C2=A0Pokazuha effect?</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">For a cost of 4-5 officials/=
agents, you can hire that many full hour<br>
smart editors, who would have time aplenty to create/adjust content, up<br>
to and including possible FAs, get adminship and weight in and likely<br>
dominate most subject areas. Seriously, consider what I was able to do,<br>
and that&#39;s in my spare time (although I am highly addicted to the<br>
Wiki... :D). And if you get restricted/banned, you have funds aplenty to<br=
>
get a different ISP / computer / whatever. Heck, they could be rotating<br>
agents and everything. You don&#39;t even need to dabble to much in<br>
controversial articles, there is a ton of uncontroversial Russia article<br=
>
that could be promoted to DYKs/FAs and thus improve Russia image that<br>
way.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a good point: actual agents wo=
uld behave more like Kirill or Alex Bakharev, and prefer to stay out of wik=
idramu.</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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