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Never tell in WP anything like "Don't we want to expose the truth behind the
criminal, dictatorial regime in Moscow". This is classic [[WP:SOAP]]. If you
have a bias - hide it.  Also,
"why are some here so eager to hide that fact?" maybe interpreted as a
personal attack. Instead, you could initiate a debate about finding a
consensus to finally unprotect the article.
Stay and show yourself as neutral as you can possibly be. Why I am not
following this advice myself?


On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:39, Christian Suciu <christiansuciu@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Good idea or not? The responses are bound to be amusing, at any rate.
>>
>
> It might work.  However, regular Wikipedians generally patmatch against a
> number of "propaganda" markers, and your initial suggestion is rich of
> likely such markers.  Can you improve it in this regard?
>
> For example, the reference to "exposing the truth" is likely to be
> interpreted as associated to WP:TRUTH or conspiracy theories in general.
>
> --
> Andres Soolo
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Never tell in WP anything like &quot;Don&#39;t we <span style=3D"font-style=
: italic;">want</span>=A0to expose the truth behind the criminal, dictatori=
al regime in Moscow&quot;. This is classic [[WP:SOAP]]. If you have a bias =
- hide it.=A0 Also,<br>
&quot;why are some here so eager to hide that fact?&quot; maybe interpreted=
 as a personal attack. Instead, you could initiate a debate about finding a=
 consensus to finally unprotect the article.<br>Stay and show yourself as n=
eutral as you can possibly be. Why I am not following this advice myself?<b=
r>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Digwure=
n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 01:39,=
 Christian Suciu <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:christiansuciu@yah=
oo.com" target=3D"_blank">christiansuciu@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,=
 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td styl=
e=3D"font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font=
-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjus=
t: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign=3D"top">
<div>Good idea or not? The responses are bound to be amusing, at any rate.<=
br></div></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote>
<div><br></div></div><div>It might work. =A0However, regular Wikipedians ge=
nerally patmatch against a number of &quot;propaganda&quot; markers, and yo=
ur initial suggestion is rich of likely such markers. =A0Can you improve it=
 in this regard?</div>

<div><br></div><div>For example, the reference to &quot;exposing the truth&=
quot; is likely to be interpreted as associated to WP:TRUTH or conspiracy t=
heories in general.</div><div><br></div></div><font color=3D"#888888">-- <b=
r>
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