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From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
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I am thinking about complaining about AdjustShift
"Is this AdjustShift first case  ? I don't think he is experienced very well
to objectively view the situation and could be influenced. He isn't on Wiki
for even a year(started on august 2008) and I would say certain statements
and claims require a good experience with situations here.
His comments seem to indicate he is not treating this case in neutral way:
I was a neutral editor.
Thanks Scinurea
Is already conviced I am guilty[]
Edit warring with other clerks over the case

Responding to Piotrus "My dear"
Selecting admins to whome he gives "secret evidence" while refusing it to
others.
Unconcerned that those admins were warned about behaviour in Eastern
European dispute
Calling all Eastern Europeans as "constantly fighting"

I do not consider AdjustShift behaviour to be neutral in this case."

What do you think-all above can be sourced. Also it seems this IS his first
case.


2009/5/31 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>

> I am not good at this kind of procedural writing, thanks for all the
> support guys. The RFC won't be available for some time, real life matters I
> have to attend to do limit my time I can spend writing wikipedia. At  best I
> would be able to post it next weekend.
>
> Regards
>
> 2009/5/30 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>
>
> Digwuren wrote:
>> > Avraham has reclassified Molobo's checkuser from "Unlikely" to
>> > "Possible".  Other than that, the discussion appears to have wound down.
>> >
>> > Considering that it's May 30th and Molobo hasn't been banned, is he
>> > safe?  Or are any actions needed to reduce his risk?
>>
>> There are delays, but the "ban Molobo" faction is still doing well. I
>> think our best option is to keep insisting that evidence should be made
>> public, or at least, available to all admins, since Deacon has it - and
>> as a side benefit, keep demanding the answer to why Deacon got it.
>>
>> Further, I'd like to ask Molobo on the status of his RfC against
>> Skapperod; as I said earlier, the sooner it is started, the better.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Prokonsul Piotrus aka Piotr Konieczny       |||____  __ __
>>                                       I=I====__|_|I__I=>
>> "Lennier, get us the hell out of here."     |||
>> "Initiating 'getting the hell out of here' maneuver."
>>  -- Ivanova and Lennier in Babylon 5:"The Hour of the Wolf"
>>
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I am thinking about complaining about AdjustShift<br>&quot;Is this AdjustSh=
ift first case=A0 ? I don&#39;t think he is experienced very well to object=
ively view the situation and could be influenced. He isn&#39;t on Wiki for =
even a year(started on august 2008) and I would say certain statements and =
claims require a good experience with situations here.<br>
His comments seem to indicate he is not treating this case in neutral way:<=
br>I was a neutral editor.<br>Thanks Scinurea<br>Is already conviced I am g=
uilty[]<br>Edit warring with other clerks over the case<br><br>Responding t=
o Piotrus &quot;My dear&quot;<br>
Selecting admins to whome he gives &quot;secret evidence&quot; while refusi=
ng it to others.<br>Unconcerned that those admins were warned about behavio=
ur in Eastern European dispute<br>Calling all Eastern Europeans as &quot;co=
nstantly fighting&quot;<br>
<br>I do not consider AdjustShift behaviour to be neutral in this case.&quo=
t;<br><br>What do you think-all above can be sourced. Also it seems this IS=
 his first case.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/5/31 Molobo Mol=
obo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I am not good at =
this kind of procedural writing, thanks for all the support guys. The RFC w=
on&#39;t be available for some time, real life matters I have to attend to =
do limit my time I can spend writing wikipedia. At=A0 best I would be able =
to post it next weekend.<br>

<br>Regards<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/5/30 Piotr Konieczny <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span><div><div></div><div class=3D"h=
5"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div><div></div><div>Digwuren wrote:<br>
&gt; Avraham has reclassified Molobo&#39;s checkuser from &quot;Unlikely&qu=
ot; to<br>
&gt; &quot;Possible&quot;. =A0Other than that, the discussion appears to ha=
ve wound down.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Considering that it&#39;s May 30th and Molobo hasn&#39;t been banned, =
is he<br>
&gt; safe? =A0Or are any actions needed to reduce his risk? <br>
<br>
</div></div>There are delays, but the &quot;ban Molobo&quot; faction is sti=
ll doing well. I<br>
think our best option is to keep insisting that evidence should be made<br>
public, or at least, available to all admins, since Deacon has it - and<br>
as a side benefit, keep demanding the answer to why Deacon got it.<br>
<br>
Further, I&#39;d like to ask Molobo on the status of his RfC against<br>
Skapperod; as I said earlier, the sooner it is started, the better.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Prokonsul Piotrus aka Piotr Konieczny =A0 =A0 =A0 |||____ =A0__ __<br>
 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 I=3DI=3D=3D=3D=3D__|_|I__I=3D&gt;<br>
&quot;Lennier, get us the hell out of here.&quot; =A0 =A0 |||<br>
&quot;Initiating &#39;getting the hell out of here&#39; maneuver.&quot;<br>
 =A0-- Ivanova and Lennier in Babylon 5:&quot;The Hour of the Wolf&quot;<br=
>
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