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On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 00:25, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:

> By their very nature population transfer is forced as per
> international law it is decided by political regime upon a body of
> people.
> So really population transfer is per definition "forced".


It depends.  When a bunch of religious fanatics transferred from England to
Western India, was it population transfer?  And was it forced?

Wikipedia's politics discourages this kind of implicitness.

I think the problem is that people use words like expulsions,
> population transfer from common language. In international law those
> terms are somewhat different. For example regime is a normal word for
> a state and is not negative in contrast to normal language.


Right.  But Wikipedia is anti-elitist, so it frowns upon academic usage.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 00:25, Molobo Molobo <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
By their very nature population transfer is forced as per<br>
international law it is decided by political regime upon a body of<br>
people.<br>
So really population transfer is per definition &quot;forced&quot;.</blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>It depends. =C2=A0When a bunch of religious fanati=
cs transferred from England to Western India, was it population transfer? =
=C2=A0And was it forced?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Wikipedia&#39;s politics discourages this kind of impli=
citness.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I think the pr=
oblem is that people use words like expulsions,<br>

population transfer from common language. In international law those<br>
terms are somewhat different. For example regime is a normal word for<br>
a state and is not negative in contrast to normal language.</blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div>Right. =C2=A0But Wikipedia is anti-elitist, so it frowns u=
pon academic usage.</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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