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On the Communist Genocide article, it's pretty clear what the strategy of
PU, Igny, Russavia and the rest is going to be here. They will insist on
including SYNTH, POV and every other "bad article" tag and are going to
sabotage any attempts at expanding and further improving the article. Then,
in a few months time (if not sooner) someone's going to re-nominate it for
deletion and the argument will be made that "look, those tags are still
there, issues weren't addressed, delete it".

In light of this I'm actually wondering if it wouldn't make sense to retreat
a bit to more defensible positions and agree with the proposal to rename
this to "Communist Mass Killings". There were several editors who were more
or less on our side and voted keep but wanted this name change. This would
also give a good reason to get rid of the SYNTH tag and bring in a lot more
sources. On the other hand, it might be useful to save the proposed rename
for later, or for when the article gets renominated for deletion. It might
also be conceding too much. So I haven't said yea/nay to this on talk.

BTW, I know SlamDiego from editing economics articles and he's an alright
guy, though a civilian in this.

Radek

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On the Communist Genocide article, it&#39;s pretty clear what the strategy =
of PU, Igny, Russavia and the rest is going to be here. They will insist on=
 including SYNTH, POV and every other &quot;bad article&quot; tag and are g=
oing to sabotage any attempts at expanding and further improving the articl=
e. Then, in a few months time (if not sooner) someone&#39;s going to re-nom=
inate it for deletion and the argument will be made that &quot;look, those =
tags are still there, issues weren&#39;t addressed, delete it&quot;.<br>
<br>In light of this I&#39;m actually wondering if it wouldn&#39;t make sen=
se to retreat a bit to more defensible positions and agree with the proposa=
l to rename this to &quot;Communist Mass Killings&quot;. There were several=
 editors who were more or less on our side and voted keep but wanted this n=
ame change. This would also give a good reason to get rid of the SYNTH tag =
and bring in a lot more sources. On the other hand, it might be useful to s=
ave the proposed rename for later, or for when the article gets renominated=
 for deletion. It might also be conceding too much. So I haven&#39;t said y=
ea/nay to this on talk.<br>
<br>BTW, I know SlamDiego from editing economics articles and he&#39;s an a=
lright guy, though a civilian in this.<br><br>Radek<br>

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