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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:18:06 -0500
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From: radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
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I've been thinking about it. I can't do it this summer as I'm on
borrowed time and busy with the students. This however may be a plus
in the future. Hypothetically, if I can keep quiet for a few months
(though my revert trigger itches) and have folks forget me and then
either try in the fall, or vanish in the fall, come back and edit only
economics related articles for a few month and then try. If I don't do
the vanish then I could also do some copy vio clean up with Moonridden
girl which might create another potential supporter (in a narrow
sense) or something similar.

How grueling are these processes? I recall from somewhere that a
single block can disqualify you in the eyes of some. And of course I'm
What happened when Halibutt tried for admin?

The major obstacle however is that I'm simply not sure if I want to do
it. Being an admin looks like a lot of work, less time spend on
content creation (which is what I like doing the most) and other forms
of pain in the ass.

Since I wouldn't be able to do it this summer anyway I'm just going to
mull over it for a few weeks.

Radek


2009/6/22 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
> Digwuren wrote:
>
>> Some of us might have to vanish and create new accounts. =A0Molobo is
>> already on this row.
>
> Indeed, but there is a big difference between vanishing and coming back
> while you have no sanctions on you (which simply resets your reputation
> to n00bie) and doing the same while you have sanctions (that you'll
> violate), which if discovered means you are just digging a bigger hole
> for yourself.
>
>> In order to make sure the new accounts will fare better, we'll need to
>> pool our encyclop=E6dic knowledge so *everybody* of us can edit a wide
>> area of topics on Wikipedia, displaying a wide area of interests and
>> reducing the risk that somebody might call us "ethnic cabals". =A0I figu=
re
>> that it could be done by maintaining improved versions of interesting
>> (in a wide range of topics) articles in an outside Wikipedia, so
>> whenever somebody needs to improve a Wikipedia article, he can take bits
>> and pieces and just copy them to Wikipedia.
>
> A good idea indeed.
>
> Another idea to throw pattern analysis software / minds off track is the
> use of single purpose accounts, restricted to one article only.
>
>> In order to be able to neutralise the Cartel, we'll need admins.
>> =A0Whatever is on the Path to Nuclear Option in short term, in long term,
>> we should be able to field at least half a dozen administrators with, at
>> best, insignificant demonstrable interest in anything the Cartel cares
>> about, so they will be able to block and ban the disruptive Cartel
>> members. =A0One administrator will not do; the Cartel has multiple
>> administrators already, and if we only have one, there will be
>> admindramu. =A0(Again, remember that among the numerous perverse
>> incentives of Wikipedia is that dramu is harmful, so administrators tend
>> to avoid it. =A0Which means that admins usually only get involved in hard
>> cases if they have a particular bias they want to support. =A0Not always=
 a
>> content bias; it can be a loyalty bias.)
>
> Indeed. I think that at least one of us should step forward and start
> seriously thinking about running for an admin soon. Due to low activity
> of Lithuanian anti-Polish editors ATM, perhaps it is a good moment to
> try to promote a Polish candidate (Radek?).
>
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> theory."
>
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