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Molobo Molobo wrote:
> I am preparing a RfC regarding Skapperod, I would be interested what you 
> think and could advise ?

Here are my comments:

On strategy:
* considering your poor reputation, I'd suggest that the RfC should be 
filled by somebody else. Woogie10w may be the best choice, as he is not 
a Pole, and he is sympathetic to you, alternatively, you could try 
asking Tymek, or maybe Radekesz or me if Woogie will not do it.
* in that case, you should either reword the statements "I did 
something" to "Molobo did something", or cut this evidence from this 
version and post it as yourself after the RfC is opened by Woogie.
* considering that it is possible you'll be banned on May 29, I think it 
is imperative that the RfC is started before this, and that you post 
your evidence to it before May 29

On content:
* make sure that you wikify the RfC before it is posted, or big chunks 
will become unreadable mess
* avoid unbacked (diffless) accusations. Those statement need evidence 
diffs:
** "Readers should take note that no objection was made by user 
Skapperod to use of Nazi propaganda publication earlier. In fact it was 
defended by him as useful source."
** "Even more we can look at his recent edits in Polish areas annexed by 
Nazi Germany where (among other things) all publications about Nazi 
atrocities have been labeled by him as "Communist"."
** "Note that no information about Nazi origins of his own source were 
presented during Skapperod's edit where he used Nazi propaganda book or 
from Nazi data."
** "Throughout his edits user Skapperod uses several self-published (and 
thus non-reliable) sources throughout large number of articles. Those 
publications are used mainly to portay Germans as victims of various 
alleged massacres and atrocities. One compares population transfer of 
Germans post war to Holocaust of Jewish population."
** "Later under the edits made by Skapperod(after several editors 
reverted his blanking attempt), information about genocidal plans of 
Nazis was removed as well, in addition to removal of info about 
treatment of Jews and Poles classified as untermenschen as compared to 
animals"
** "Information about plans of Nazi to mass murder several ethnic groups 
through organised famine, mass exectutions and other means was removed 
by Skapperod and instead repleaced by claim that those groups were going 
to be only "deported""
** "A frequent tactic of Skapperod is to demand Admin sanctions against 
users who counter his POV. This happens in observable pattern with 
Skapperod putting as much as he can into the thread with often 
misleading claims "Supported" by multitude links that are to be 
"evidence" why the user should be put to sanctions. "
** "user Woogie- a long time dedicated editor of Holocaust and WW2 
casualties articles was severaly harassed by Skapperod and posted two 
times on ANI after Skapperods edits in Holocaust article  were objected 
by Woogie."
** "Finally after I contributed to Areas using a two volume scholary 
research work to expand greatly the article with information like number 
of clergy murdered, racial laws and so on, user Skapperod reported me 
two times to admins, finally demanding that I shall be banned from 
editing articles on Germany."


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