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The tactics of our opponents is to use certain administrators. One of them
is LessHeardVanU. Quite interestingly, a pro-Putin editor Kulikovsky,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kulikovsky

created a separate account:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Setraspdopaduegedfa

only to report Muscovite99 to LessHeardVanU

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:LessHeard_vanU&diff=prev&oldid=215874107

finally leading to indefinite block of this user.

Some admins are only mobilized when needed. For example, that was Mangojuce
(probably a women)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mangojuice

who deleted all images of Getman at Commons (when I had OTRS ticket) and
later rescued five or six Russian users blocked indef by Tiptoety for voting
fraud.



On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, thanks for that, I'll give him a try.
>
> Martin
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > P.S. I selected him because he edits political articles, he is obviously
> a
> > conservative and worked with Berlin Wall article.
> >
> > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> How about this one?
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Happyme22
> >>
> >> He is also an American (so, there would be no suspicions of unfair
> game),
> >> but he was very kind and forthcoming when I once communicated with him.
> He
> >> is active right now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I just had some offline correspondence with LessHeardVanU. He is
> >>> willing to do  the move, except that he has only had done page moves a
> >>> couple of times in the past, so he is not too confident about doing
> >>> it, at least until after the weekend after he reads up on it again.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone recommend someone with page move experience, there is like
> >>> a week long backlog at WP:RM, and I'd like to bi-pass this lest some
> >>> troll contests the move proposal.
> >>>
> >>> I also thought about moving it myself to [[Occupations of the Baltic
> >>> states]], given that it is about more than one occupation, but
> >>> tactically having an admin move the article back to the original name
> >>> is a more defensible position, i.e. done by a uninvolved third party.
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >>> folks@wikipedometer.net
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> >>
> >
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The tactics of our opponents is to use certain administrators. One of them =
is LessHeardVanU. Quite interestingly, a pro-Putin editor Kulikovsky,<br><b=
r><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kulikovsky"=
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kulikovsky</a><br>
<br>created a separate account:<br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w=
/index.php?title=3DSpecial:Contributions&amp;limit=3D500&amp;target=3DSetra=
spdopaduegedfa">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSpecial:Contrib=
utions&amp;limit=3D500&amp;target=3DSetraspdopaduegedfa</a><br>
<br>only to report Muscovite99 to LessHeardVanU<br><br><a href=3D"http://en=
.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk:LessHeard_vanU&amp;diff=3Dprev=
&amp;oldid=3D215874107">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_ta=
lk:LessHeard_vanU&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D215874107</a><br>
<br>finally leading to indefinite block of this user.<br><br>Some admins ar=
e only mobilized when needed. For example, that was Mangojuce (probably a w=
omen)=A0  <br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contribut=
ions/Mangojuice">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mangoju=
ice</a><br>
<br>who deleted all images of Getman at Commons (when I had OTRS ticket) an=
d later rescued five or six Russian users blocked indef by Tiptoety for vot=
ing fraud.<br><br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 7, 2009 at=
 9:25 PM, Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail.co=
m">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Okay, thanks for =
that, I&#39;ll give him a try.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Martin<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibi=
ophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; P.S. I selected him because he edits political articles, he is obvious=
ly a<br>
&gt; conservative and worked with Berlin Wall article.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wi=
kibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; How about this one?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Happyme22" target=3D"=
_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Happyme22</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; He is also an American (so, there would be no suspicions of unfair=
 game),<br>
&gt;&gt; but he was very kind and forthcoming when I once communicated with=
 him. He<br>
&gt;&gt; is active right now.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marti=
nt20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I just had some offline correspondence with LessHeardVanU. He =
is<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; willing to do =A0the move, except that he has only had done pa=
ge moves a<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; couple of times in the past, so he is not too confident about =
doing<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; it, at least until after the weekend after he reads up on it a=
gain.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Can anyone recommend someone with page move experience, there =
is like<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; a week long backlog at WP:RM, and I&#39;d like to bi-pass this=
 lest some<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; troll contests the move proposal.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I also thought about moving it myself to [[Occupations of the =
Baltic<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; states]], given that it is about more than one occupation, but=
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; tactically having an admin move the article back to the origin=
al name<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; is a more defensible position, i.e. done by a uninvolved third=
 party.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Martin<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Wikipedia statistics discussion list<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net">folks@wikipedometer=
.net</a><br>
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olks" target=3D"_blank">http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/f=
olks</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Wikipedia statistics discussion list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net">folks@wikipedometer.net</a>=
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