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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:17, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wrote:

> I agree with Peters. But I am sure some would then be happy to criminalize
> "denial of Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and its consequences", and let me guess
> whose presidents/prime-ministers would then have "trouble" visiting...
>

Actually, presidents and PMs on state visit have diplomatic immunity under
the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations, one of the most sacrosanct
treaties in international law.

I think, we should try to use this kind of formulations in WP rathern than
> "denial of Soviet occupations", because they have greater potential to
> stick. The vagueness game can be played in both directions. Who knows what
> "consequences" means.
>

This is a good point.

P. S.  Should we invite Miacek to the list?

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 19:17, Dorin Cheptea <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.com">dorin.cheptea=
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<div>I agree with Peters. But I=C2=A0am sure some would then be happy to cr=
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quot;trouble&quot; visiting...</div>
</blockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Actually, presidents and PMs on state vi=
sit have diplomatic immunity under the Vienna convention on diplomatic rela=
tions, one of the most sacrosanct treaties in international law.</div><div>=
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eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div>I think, we should try to use th=
is kind of formulations in WP rathern than &quot;denial of Soviet occupatio=
ns&quot;, because they have greater potential to stick. The vagueness game =
can be played in both directions. Who knows what &quot;consequences&quot; m=
eans.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is a good point.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>P. S. =C2=A0Should we invite Miacek to the list?</div><div><br></div><=
/div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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