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On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:40, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The main problem is we need "him" to speak Hebrew.
>>
>
> Just a bit.  Unlike with Russian, the Cartel would have much trouble
> validating the Hebrew skills, and going by Google Translate, grammar
> mistakes aren't as much problem.
>
> Also, I have a few Jewish friends who can help with translation of the
> token phrases.  One, I helped to translate a birthday card to his Russian
> girlfriend, so I even have a suitable favour to cash in :-)
>
> I had a Hebrew ABC when I was about 7, and I learnt the spelling basics,
> but without practice, I've forgotten pretty much everything.  Furthermore,
> as Miacek pointed out, there's also Yiddish; as a Germanic language, it
> should be easier to learn, but an uninitiated person is unlikely to know the
> difference from how it looks.
>
> to pull something like this, extraordinary motivation is needed.
>>
>
> If we're going for it, we'll need to make it fun.  Fun is an extraordinary
> motivator.
>
>
>> If I am not mistaken, the most damaging spy in the KGB/GRU for the CIA was
>> a person whose son got seriously ill when he was on a short diplomatic event
>> at the UN in early 1960s, and his superiors forbid for his son to be taken
>> to a hospital. His son died, and as a revenge, he supplied CIA with info for
>> 25 years, selecting whatever he wanted to pass (he would not take orders
>> "bring this, try that"), and constantly inventing new ways to convey info.
>> He never got a single cent from CIA and was caught only because of a moll
>> inside CIA.
>>
>
> Similarly, US military in Afghanistan has reported that it routinely gains
> favour with local village elders and warlords by offering simple favours of
> personal significance, from transporting a sick family member to a nearby
> hospital via a helicopter (as roads are very poor outside Kabul), or
> sometimes even just handing over some Viagra.  It's not easy maintaining the
> status-mandated four wives while being a sixty-year-old tribal leader of a
> rural village near Amu Darya ...
>
> --
> Andres Soolo
>
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The userpage was removed at Russian &quot;Vedomosti&quot;. Perhaps &quot;S.=
B.&quot; is a nonexistent person created only at the internet.<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Digwuren <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:40, Dorin Cheptea <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">dorin.cheptea@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div>The main problem is we need &quot;him&quot; to speak Hebrew.</div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Just a bit. =A0Unlike with Russian, the =
Cartel would have much trouble validating the Hebrew skills, and going by G=
oogle Translate, grammar mistakes aren&#39;t as much problem.</div>


<div><br></div><div>Also, I have a few Jewish friends who can help with tra=
nslation of the token phrases. =A0One, I helped to translate a birthday car=
d to his Russian girlfriend, so I even have a suitable favour to cash in :-=
)</div>


<div><br></div><div>I had a Hebrew ABC when I was about 7, and I learnt the=
 spelling basics, but without practice, I&#39;ve forgotten pretty much ever=
ything. =A0Furthermore, as Miacek pointed out, there&#39;s also Yiddish; as=
 a Germanic language, it should be easier to learn, but an uninitiated pers=
on is unlikely to know the difference from how it looks.</div>
<div class=3D"im">
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px =
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>to pull something like this, extraordinary motivation is needed.</div>=
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>If we&#39;re going for it, we&#39;ll=
 need to make it fun. =A0Fun is an extraordinary motivator.</div><div class=
=3D"im">
<div>=A0<br></div>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>If I am not =
mistaken, the most damaging spy in the KGB/GRU for the CIA was a person who=
se son got seriously ill when he was on a short diplomatic event at the UN =
in early 1960s, and his superiors forbid for his son to be taken to a hospi=
tal. His son died, and as a revenge, he supplied CIA with info for 25 years=
, selecting whatever he wanted to pass (he would not take orders &quot;brin=
g this, try that&quot;), and constantly inventing new ways to convey info. =
He never got a single cent from CIA and was caught only because of a moll i=
nside CIA.</div>


</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Similarly, US military in Afghanista=
n has reported that it routinely gains favour with local village elders and=
 warlords by offering simple favours of personal significance, from transpo=
rting a sick family member to a nearby hospital via a helicopter (as roads =
are very poor outside Kabul), or sometimes even just handing over some Viag=
ra. =A0It&#39;s not easy maintaining the status-mandated four wives while b=
eing a sixty-year-old tribal leader of a rural village near Amu Darya ...</=
div>

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