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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 13:26, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wrote:

> Can this be pulled off actually? If Digwuren disappears and somebody else
> is in, with just the same interest in articles, won't that be suggesting
> meatpuppeting?
>

Not the plan.  With a new beginning, I should be able to pull off an RFA
within a few months if I'm careful. I can express a different interest
profile for the few months; in particular, refrain from controversies and
play the silly countervandalism games instead. And if I'm not planning to go
for Piotrus' Project Checkuser, I won't probably have to be very careful
about IP addresses, either. In order to give a reasonable cover for my
disappearance, I can post a "How doth Wikipedia suck? Let me count the ways
..." rant, indicating that I'm off to build a better Wikipedia, perhaps with
a reference to Citizendium. By the time of the RFA, the three-month
checkuser staleness limit will have passed, and as I noted previously,
administrators are a pretty invulnerable bunch covered by WP:IAR.

In fact post 2007 you only have 2 blocks (including the one yesterday), and
> both were lifted within 4 hours of being issued. That speaks for itself when
> one looks into. Unfortunately many admins don't.
>

True.

Interesting. I will be ready to comment whenever you tell me.
>

It all depends on whether Piotrus is willing to play along.  Timing is
essential, too.

Can we eventually get a topic ban for PU? For example based on the 2007
>> ArbCom case. Topic bans were proven quite effective in Moldova related
>> issues. One die hard Soviet friend WP editor got a topic ban exactly on what
>> he cared mostly to edit, and now he's like a fly without wings. We won't
>> have to bother if PU can freely edit botany or bridge construction.
>>
>
Hopefully.  But not based on his current status.

He has switched accounts before; there's also a chance that he will do it
again.  If he makes a mistake, he might open himself up for checkusering.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 13:26, Dorin Cheptea <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.com">dorin.cheptea=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>Can this be pulled off actually? If Digwure=
n disappears and somebody else is in, with just the same interest in articl=
es, won&#39;t that be suggesting meatpuppeting?</div></div></blockquote><di=
v>
<br></div><div>Not the plan. =C2=A0With a new beginning, I shou<span class=
=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap; ">ld be able to pull =
off an RFA within a few months if I&#39;m careful.  I can express a differe=
nt interest profile for the few months; in particular, refrain from controv=
ersies and play the silly countervandalism games instead.  And if I&#39;m n=
ot planning to go for Piotrus&#39; Project Checkuser, I won&#39;t probably =
have to be very careful about IP addresses, either.  In order to give a rea=
sonable cover for my disappearance, I can post a &quot;How doth Wikipedia s=
uck?  Let me count the ways ...&quot; rant, indicating that I&#39;m off to =
build a better Wikipedia, perhaps with a reference to Citizendium.  By the =
time of the RFA, the three-month checkuser staleness limit will have passed=
, and as I noted previously, administrators are a pretty invulnerable bunch=
 covered by WP:IAR.</span></div>
<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap;"><br>=
</span></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v>In fact post 2007 you only have 2 blocks (including the one yesterday), a=
nd both were lifted within 4 hours of being issued. That speaks for itself =
when one looks into. Unfortunately many admins don&#39;t.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True.</div><div><br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>Interesting. I will b=
e ready to comment whenever you tell me.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It all depends on whether Piotrus is=
 willing to play along. =C2=A0Timing is essential, too.</div><div><br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>Can we eventually get a topic ban for PU? =
For example based on the 2007 ArbCom case. Topic bans were proven quite eff=
ective in Moldova related issues. One die hard Soviet friend WP editor got =
a topic ban exactly on what he cared mostly to edit, and now he&#39;s like =
a fly without wings. We won&#39;t have to bother if PU can freely edit bota=
ny or bridge construction.</div>
</div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hopefully. =
=C2=A0But not based on his current status.</div><div><br></div><div>He has =
switched accounts before; there&#39;s also a chance that he will do it agai=
n. =C2=A0If he makes a mistake, he might open himself up for checkusering.<=
/div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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