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On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 09:36, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:

> In fact, the article already says that the HTC's representative said that
> Poland approached Nazi Germany in 1937 with a proposal to split up Ukrain=
e
> between Poland and Germany, so that Poland would reach from Baltic sea to
> Black sea. Supposedly, this would show Polish government's
> "Nazi-mindedness". It's probably a misinterpretation of the [[Mi=C4=99dzy=
morze]]
> saga, possibly akin to Molotov's accusations against Estonia and Latvia.
>

Ilya Kanavin, a reporter of the state-controlled Russian TV channel RTR, ha=
s
published a "documentary" titled "Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.  Declassified
materials" (video at <http://www.vesti7.ru/video?name=3D10121.asf>, text at=
 <
http://www.vesti7.ru/news?id=3D14335>).  He presents a neo-Soviet narrative=
 of
the MRP's story, and among other things claims that Poland "attempted to
outclever everybody offering to Japan to open a second anti-Soviet front".
 Apparently, Polish embassy in Moscow has raised protest over such blatant
historic falsification <
http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-06-26/Poland_accuses_Russian_TV_ch=
annel_of_rewriting_history.html>
and recommended that the Historic Truth Commission deal with it.

Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has responded by a statement claiming
that the "documentary" in question was "opinion" subject to freedom of
speech, and issued a vague accusation about Russia-related content on
Poland's national TV channels.

Tellingly, Russia Today's article on this article has a "See also" link to =
a
Pravda article titled "Russia sick and tired of Europe's criticism" <
http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/26-06-2009/107865-PACE-0> concerning
Georgia's move to strip Russia from voting right at PACE.

--=20
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 09:36, Digwuren <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">In fact, the article already s=
ays that the HTC&#39;s representative said that Poland approached Nazi Germ=
any in 1937 with a proposal to split up Ukraine between Poland and Germany,=
 so that Poland would reach from Baltic sea to Black sea.  Supposedly, this=
 would show Polish government&#39;s &quot;Nazi-mindedness&quot;.  It&#39;s =
probably a misinterpretation of the [[Mi=C4=99dzymorze]] saga, possibly aki=
n to Molotov&#39;s accusations against Estonia and Latvia.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ilya Kanavin, a reporter of the stat=
e-controlled Russian TV channel RTR, has published a &quot;documentary&quot=
; titled &quot;Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. =C2=A0Declassified materials&quot; =
(video at &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.vesti7.ru/video?name=3D10121.asf">http:=
//www.vesti7.ru/video?name=3D10121.asf</a>&gt;, text at=C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D=
"http://www.vesti7.ru/news?id=3D14335">http://www.vesti7.ru/news?id=3D14335=
</a>&gt;). =C2=A0He presents a neo-Soviet narrative of the MRP&#39;s story,=
 and among other things claims that Poland &quot;attempted to outclever eve=
rybody offering to Japan to open a second anti-Soviet front&quot;. =C2=A0Ap=
parently, Polish embassy in Moscow has raised protest over such blatant his=
toric falsification &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009=
-06-26/Poland_accuses_Russian_TV_channel_of_rewriting_history.html">http://=
www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-06-26/Poland_accuses_Russian_TV_channel_o=
f_rewriting_history.html</a>&gt; and recommended that the Historic Truth Co=
mmission deal with it.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has responded=
 by a statement claiming that the &quot;documentary&quot; in question was &=
quot;opinion&quot; subject to freedom of speech, and issued a vague accusat=
ion about Russia-related content on Poland&#39;s national TV channels.</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>Tellingly, Russia Today&#39;s article on this article h=
as a &quot;See also&quot; link to a Pravda article titled &quot;Russia sick=
 and tired of Europe&#39;s criticism&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"http://english.pr=
avda.ru/world/europe/26-06-2009/107865-PACE-0">http://english.pravda.ru/wor=
ld/europe/26-06-2009/107865-PACE-0</a>&gt; concerning Georgia&#39;s move to=
 strip Russia from voting right at PACE.</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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