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From: radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
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	Content preview:  Well, he's definitely hit 3RR on Szczecin, maybe 4. I'm
	not going to file this one because I don't want to seem like I'm out to
	get him and I might not have time anyway (leaving tomorrow). Radek
	2009/6/13 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>: > Unreliable sources used
	in articles made by Skapperod: > > Erwin Ay, Rettende Ufer: Von
	Ostpreußen nach Dänemark, BoD – Books on > Demand. The Books on Demand
	serves to print for people who want to > give out their own book. This
	makes the book a SPS (self published > source) > > Pit Pietersen,
	Kriegsverbrechen der alliierten Siegermächte: > Terroristische
	Bombenangriffe auf Deutschland und Europa 1939-1945, > 2006 > > The
	above (titled "war crimes of allies terrorist attacks on Germany > and
	Europe 1939-1945" -nice addition to RfC btw) wa based heavily by >
	Skapperod. > > Here is a thread where two German editors agree that this
	a self > published source and comment on Books on Demand > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&oldid=279539981#Kriegsverbrechen_der_alliierten_Siegerm.C3.A4chte_by_Pit_Pietersen
	> > Articles where nrs are used: > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_German_settlement_in_Eastern_Europe
	> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans > > 2009/6/13
	Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> >> >> Hi, >> >> I know of two articles
	with confirmed non-reliable sources making up most of them. Both were
	made by Skapperod. Deleting those non-reliable sources and taging the
	articles could perhaps give him a pause. >> >> 2009/6/13 radek szulga
	<rsszulga@gmail.com> >>> >>> And Skapperod is on the roll again. He
	promised to quite editing the >>> relevant articles until Friday in
	order to weasel out of the 3RR >>> violation and as soon as Friday hit
	he hits again. We're going to have >>> to stop this but without any
	single person reverting more than once >>> per day. Then either he
	breaks 3RR again, he gives up or his >>> reinforcements show up - though
	Matthead's on 1RR so I'm not sure how >>> much of that he's got. If he's
	not careful though even without a 3RR >>> vio we can get him for edit
	warring - basically by arguing that he's >>> used the "cease fire till
	Friday" promise to weasel out of a 3RR block [...] 
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	Content preview:  Well, he's definitely hit 3RR on Szczecin, maybe 4. I'm
	not going to file this one because I don't want to seem like I'm out to
	get him and I might not have time anyway (leaving tomorrow). Radek
	2009/6/13 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>: > Unreliable sources used
	in articles made by Skapperod: > > Erwin Ay, Rettende Ufer: Von
	Ostpreußen nach Dänemark, BoD – Books on > Demand. The Books on Demand
	serves to print for people who want to > give out their own book. This
	makes the book a SPS (self published > source) > > Pit Pietersen,
	Kriegsverbrechen der alliierten Siegermächte: > Terroristische
	Bombenangriffe auf Deutschland und Europa 1939-1945, > 2006 > > The
	above (titled "war crimes of allies terrorist attacks on Germany > and
	Europe 1939-1945" -nice addition to RfC btw) wa based heavily by >
	Skapperod. > > Here is a thread where two German editors agree that this
	a self > published source and comment on Books on Demand > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard&oldid=279539981#Kriegsverbrechen_der_alliierten_Siegerm.C3.A4chte_by_Pit_Pietersen
	> > Articles where nrs are used: > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_German_settlement_in_Eastern_Europe
	> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans > > 2009/6/13
	Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> >> >> Hi, >> >> I know of two articles
	with confirmed non-reliable sources making up most of them. Both were
	made by Skapperod. Deleting those non-reliable sources and taging the
	articles could perhaps give him a pause. >> >> 2009/6/13 radek szulga
	<rsszulga@gmail.com> >>> >>> And Skapperod is on the roll again. He
	promised to quite editing the >>> relevant articles until Friday in
	order to weasel out of the 3RR >>> violation and as soon as Friday hit
	he hits again. We're going to have >>> to stop this but without any
	single person reverting more than once >>> per day. Then either he
	breaks 3RR again, he gives up or his >>> reinforcements show up - though
	Matthead's on 1RR so I'm not sure how >>> much of that he's got. If he's
	not careful though even without a 3RR >>> vio we can get him for edit
	warring - basically by arguing that he's >>> used the "cease fire till
	Friday" promise to weasel out of a 3RR block [...] 
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Well, he's definitely hit 3RR on Szczecin, maybe 4. I'm not going to
file this one because I don't want to seem like I'm out to get him and
I might not have time anyway (leaving tomorrow).

Radek


2009/6/13 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>:
> Unreliable sources used in articles made by Skapperod:
>
> Erwin Ay, Rettende Ufer: Von Ostpreu=DFen nach D=E4nemark, BoD =96 Books =
on
> Demand. The Books on Demand serves to print for people who want to
> give out their own book.=A0 This makes the book a SPS (self published
> source)
>
> Pit Pietersen, Kriegsverbrechen der alliierten Siegerm=E4chte:
> Terroristische Bombenangriffe auf Deutschland und Europa 1939-1945,
> 2006
>
> The above (titled "war crimes of allies terrorist attacks on Germany
> and Europe 1939-1945" -nice addition to RfC btw) wa based heavily by
> Skapperod.
>
> Here is a thread where two German editors agree that this a self
> published source and comment on Books on Demand
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Reliable_sources/No=
ticeboard&oldid=3D279539981#Kriegsverbrechen_der_alliierten_Siegerm.C3.A4ch=
te_by_Pit_Pietersen
>
> Articles where =A0nrs are used:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_German_settlement_in_Eastern_Euro=
pe
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans
>
> 2009/6/13 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know of two articles with confirmed non-reliable sources making up mos=
t of them. Both were made by Skapperod. Deleting those non-reliable sources=
 and taging the articles could perhaps give him a pause.
>>
>> 2009/6/13 radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> And Skapperod is on the roll again. He promised to quite editing the
>>> relevant articles until Friday in order to weasel out of the 3RR
>>> violation and as soon as Friday hit he hits again. We're going to have
>>> to stop this but without any single person reverting more than once
>>> per day. Then either he breaks 3RR again, he gives up or his
>>> reinforcements show up - though Matthead's on 1RR so I'm not sure how
>>> much of that he's got. If he's not careful though even without a 3RR
>>> vio we can get him for edit warring - basically by arguing that he's
>>> used the "cease fire till Friday" promise to weasel out of a 3RR block
>>> and restarted as soon as Friday came around - getting him to do 3 diff
>>> reverts on 3 different people (even if they are all a "Polish
>>> tag-team") should be enough to file a case (though I don't think I
>>> should be the one to do it again - and I won't have the time). There
>>> should probably be more talk page comments, even if they are fairly
>>> superfluous - basically take each of his edits and call him on it; the
>>> fact that he isn't just moving stuff around or providing refs but
>>> rewriting the text in a POV way in the process. Gotta be careful with
>>> the language though.
>>>
>>> I'd love to be able to go on my wiki break knowing that at least some
>>> fear has been put into that guy.
>>>
>>> Radek
>>>
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