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I think we need to plan long term, and get a CU of our own. This will 
involve first getting an admin status, and then, CU. I don't think I am 
likely to get CU myself, if for nothing else then that I am not involved 
and not interested in dealing with CU issues, and one will have to prove 
that one is interested in CU issues unrelated to EE for that.

In order to do this, I'd suggest that one of us excercises the WP:Right 
to vanish to clear his name from any association to Poles/Batlics/etc. 
that would be likely to draw opposition "because of his friends" and 
creates a new account, one that would for the most part avoid 
interaction with EE issues, and would become increasingly involved in 
anti-vandal / admin issues, embarking upon a track for adminship and 
then, CU (it may be worthwhile to analyze edit history and pattern of 
existing CU and emulate them).

Who could do this? It has to be somebody with a clean record, to avoid 
being compromised in the future along the lines "you hid your bad block 
log" - I would not put it above CU to run checks on their future 
buddies. WP:RTV gives an editor the right to discard a previous 
identity, but hiding a bad block log (Dig or Molobo - sorry guys - sorry 
:>) could sink our plan. Per 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOCK#Inappropriate_uses_of_alternative_accounts 
I am afraid that such an account would also mean retiring the old 
identity, and not running other socks. Any thoughts who would like to 
embark on such a wiki-life changing move?

Do note that becoming a CU is only slightly less difficult then becoming 
an ArbCom member...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CheckUser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/CheckUser_and_Oversight_elections
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/CheckUser_and_Oversight_elections/February_2009

On a related note, we have previously discussed admining more of us; I 
think it is still possible. Vecrumba is the most likely candidate (clean 
block log, lack of wiki warring) for that. Tymek has a clean block log, 
but little interest in wikipolitic/adminship issues (correct me if I am 
wrong?). Radeksz has only one 3RR block, it should be possible to bypass 
that, same for Marting; Miacek's record also seems defensible. Any other 
candidates? Do note that once you reach admin level, you are that much 
closer to CU.

Considering the pool of our members, I think that getting a few more 
admins is possible, but getting a CU will take time (years?). Still, if 
we don't try...

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