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I think Jacurek should be offered some support. In the last few days he had
hard times, fighting with Neonazi on Battle of Wielun(that article still
needs fixing) and now Deacon. A friendly word and information he has
supported would be encouraged.

2009/6/8 radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>

> I think Deacon's recent abuse of his admin's power to remove Jacurek's
> rollback access:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jacurek#Notice_of_rollback_removal_and_editing_restrictions
> when Jacurek used EXACTLY in the way it's supposed to be used is a
> pretty clear example of his continued harassment of Polish editors.
> If his admin action gets reversed, together with other stuff it may be
> enough to at least get him put on the notification list.
>
> Radek
>
>
> 2009/6/5 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
> > radek szulga wrote:
> >> Yeah I saw that - be sure to note "Be careful about citing this
> >> principle too aggressively. An exhortation to "Assume Good Faith" can
> >> itself be seen as a breach of this very tenet, since it fails to
> >> assume the assumption of good faith if the perceived assumption of bad
> >> faith is not clear-cut." from the guidelines.
> >>
> >> I'm holding off a little bit on Kurfurst - even though he's annoying
> >> on Strategic Bombing I thought I'd give him more time since he seems
> >> like one of those editors that sooner or later ends up putting their
> >> foot in their mouth and then the case'd be stronger and more straight
> >> forward.
> >
> > He is also annoying some other editors there; there is little harm in
> > wikiemailing them to sound them out and later innocently bringing
> > WP:DIGWUREN to their attention :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Prokonsul Piotrus aka Piotr Konieczny       |||____  __ __
> >                                       I=I====__|_|I__I=>
> > "Lennier, get us the hell out of here."     |||
> > "Initiating 'getting the hell out of here' maneuver."
> >  -- Ivanova and Lennier in Babylon 5:"The Hour of the Wolf"
> >
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I think Jacurek should be offered some support. In the last few days he had=
 hard times, fighting with Neonazi on Battle of Wielun(that article still n=
eeds fixing) and now Deacon. A friendly word and information he has support=
ed would be encouraged.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/8 radek szulga <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:rsszulga@gmail.com">rsszulga@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I think Deacon&#39;s recent abuse of his admin&#39;s power to remove Jacure=
k&#39;s<br>
rollback access:<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jacurek#Notice_of_rollbac=
k_removal_and_editing_restrictions" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.o=
rg/wiki/User_talk:Jacurek#Notice_of_rollback_removal_and_editing_restrictio=
ns</a><br>

when Jacurek used EXACTLY in the way it&#39;s supposed to be used is a<br>
pretty clear example of his continued harassment of Polish editors.<br>
If his admin action gets reversed, together with other stuff it may be<br>
enough to at least get him put on the notification list.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Radek<br>
</font><div class=3D"im"><br>
<br>
2009/6/5 Piotr Konieczny &lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; radek szulga wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Yeah I saw that - be sure to note &quot;Be careful about citing th=
is<br>
&gt;&gt; principle too aggressively. An exhortation to &quot;Assume Good Fa=
ith&quot; can<br>
&gt;&gt; itself be seen as a breach of this very tenet, since it fails to<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; assume the assumption of good faith if the perceived assumption of=
 bad<br>
&gt;&gt; faith is not clear-cut.&quot; from the guidelines.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;m holding off a little bit on Kurfurst - even though he&#39;=
s annoying<br>
&gt;&gt; on Strategic Bombing I thought I&#39;d give him more time since he=
 seems<br>
&gt;&gt; like one of those editors that sooner or later ends up putting the=
ir<br>
&gt;&gt; foot in their mouth and then the case&#39;d be stronger and more s=
traight<br>
&gt;&gt; forward.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; He is also annoying some other editors there; there is little harm in<=
br>
&gt; wikiemailing them to sound them out and later innocently bringing<br>
&gt; WP:DIGWUREN to their attention :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Prokonsul Piotrus aka Piotr Konieczny =A0 =A0 =A0 |||____ =A0__ __<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 I=3DI=3D=3D=3D=3D__|_|I__I=3D&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;Lennier, get us the hell out of here.&quot; =A0 =A0 |||<br>
&gt; &quot;Initiating &#39;getting the hell out of here&#39; maneuver.&quot=
;<br>
&gt; =A0-- Ivanova and Lennier in Babylon 5:&quot;The Hour of the Wolf&quot=
;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Wikipedia statistics discussion list<br>
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