X-From_: folks-bounces@wikipedometer.net Thu Jul  2 23:33:03 2009
Return-Path: <folks-bounces@wikipedometer.net>
Message-ID: <4A4D280F.7090905@post.pl>
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:35:11 -0400
From: Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
	rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090303 MultiZilla/1.8.3.4e SeaMonkey/1.1.15
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Wikipedia statistics <folks@wikipedometer.net>
References: <494251.20348.qm@web33303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<929ed1ec0906301125r7014ce9se3ef68aef1392490@mail.gmail.com>	<4A4A89FA.7080606@post.pl>	<c3b2b3db0906301903m18b58ca9ka3ca5e09bfba4610@mail.gmail.com>	<4A4AE5CF.30609@post.pl>	<c3b2b3db0907021152u788ba8c7tb5d6deea37072b6a@mail.gmail.com>	<c3b2b3db0907021155pe07d377v6b10115a67fdb0b7@mail.gmail.com>	<929ed1ec0907021159x7147392cp96ebd160280186a7@mail.gmail.com>	<25890ca0907021219j18907539n807d56fbeddfdd9c@mail.gmail.com>	<4A4D2426.4020701@post.pl>
	<25890ca0907021428s5997a90as447efda71372cc26@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <25890ca0907021428s5997a90as447efda71372cc26@mail.gmail.com>
X-Spam_score: -2.4
X-Spam_score_int: -23
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: Spam detection software,
	running on the system "pakkun.mirky.net", has
	identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message
	has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or
	label similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
	the administrator of that system for details.
	Content preview:  radek szulga wrote: > I know, which is why I
	co-nominated him for the Lublin Ghetto DYK (I > asked him if he wanted
	it first since I wasnt sure if he wanted > attention brought to
	himself). > But I dunno, these days incivility is seen as like the worst
	thing ever > on Wikipedia, right behind running sock accounts to
	circumvent bans > (this one's legit in my view) so I think he doesn't
	have a chance in > hell off getting parole and even if he does his
	personality is just such > that he'll soon violate it again. >
	Sometimes it's about knowing how to pick your battles. [...] 
	Content analysis details:   (-2.4 points, 5.0 required)
	pts rule name              description
	---- ----------------------
	--------------------------------------------------
	0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO       Received: contains a forged HELO
	-2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
	[score: 0.0000]
	0.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on 
	pakkun.mirky.net
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,
	FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb
Subject: Re: [WPM] Hanzo (was Women and Wiklp)
X-BeenThere: folks@wikipedometer.net
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Wikipedia statistics <folks@wikipedometer.net>
List-Id: Wikipedia statistics <folks.wikipedometer.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks>,
	<mailto:folks-request@wikipedometer.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net>
List-Help: <mailto:folks-request@wikipedometer.net?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks>,
	<mailto:folks-request@wikipedometer.net?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: folks-bounces@wikipedometer.net
Errors-To: folks-bounces@wikipedometer.net
X-Spam_score: -2.4
X-Spam_score_int: -23
X-Spam_bar: --
X-Spam_report: Spam detection software, running on the system "pakkun.mirky.net", has
	identified this incoming email as possible spam.  The original message
	has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label
	similar future email.  If you have any questions, see
	the administrator of that system for details.
	Content preview:  radek szulga wrote: > I know, which is why I
	co-nominated him for the Lublin Ghetto DYK (I > asked him if he wanted
	it first since I wasnt sure if he wanted > attention brought to
	himself). > But I dunno, these days incivility is seen as like the worst
	thing ever > on Wikipedia, right behind running sock accounts to
	circumvent bans > (this one's legit in my view) so I think he doesn't
	have a chance in > hell off getting parole and even if he does his
	personality is just such > that he'll soon violate it again. > Sometimes
	it's about knowing how to pick your battles. [...] 
	Content analysis details:   (-2.4 points, 5.0 required)
	pts rule name              description
	---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
	0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO       Received: contains a forged HELO
	-2.6 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1%
	[score: 0.0000]
	0.1 AWL                    AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list

radek szulga wrote:
> I know, which is why I co-nominated him for the Lublin Ghetto DYK (I 
> asked him if he wanted it first since I wasnt sure if he wanted 
> attention brought to himself).
> But I dunno, these days incivility is seen as like the worst thing ever 
> on Wikipedia, right behind running sock accounts to circumvent bans 
> (this one's legit in my view) so I think he doesn't have a chance in 
> hell off getting parole and even if he does his personality is just such 
> that he'll soon violate it again.
> Sometimes it's about knowing how to pick your battles.

Uh, my experience on Wiki has been that nobody cares about civility, 
unless the violations are gross/repeated/targeted at people with a lot 
wikiclout. Yes, Hanzo's cursing is pretty gross, but by itself it 
shouldn't be a major argument, particularly if he promises to watch his 
language.

It is interesting that nobody has commented on the AN thread in two 
days. Do post a support or two, if for some bizarre reason this expires 
to archive that way, I will be able to unblock him and cite "consensus 
on AN" :D That said, I will not unblock him until he starts talking to 
me / us in a reasonable way - my altruism and sticking up for the small 
guy goes only so far.

So if you guys could post on his talk and encourage him to be civil and 
constructive, this would help a lot.

-- 
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in 
theory."

_______________________________________________
Wikipedia statistics discussion list
folks@wikipedometer.net
http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks

