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O. G. wrote:
> This rant from all sides is extremely unhelpful. I understand it is a sore wound with the Poles, but why do you keep scratching at it over and over again? Let's agree that both sides are to blame, AK was just as murderous as the UPA. Weighing in and comparing atrocities is leading nowhere. Is there a scale by which we can compare Massacres in Volhynia to Operation Vistula or Pacifikacija? Let it go. I don't see Ukrainians ranting over the last two. Someone else (and most know who) will benefit from it. Unfortunately, neither Ukrainians and Poles will.

I agree it is unhelpful, but historical issues need to be investigated 
and discussed. CALMLY. And equaling AK to UPA is preposterous on so many 
levels it's not even funny. Yes, there were a few instances of AK 
massacring civilian villages. They are exception to the rule, a rule 
that was pretty SOP for UPA. Inability to admit both of those issues 
(for the Poles - that AK did commit a few atrocities and was not 
perfect, and for the Ukrainians - that UPA was little different from the 
Nazis other than being used by them and not the other way around) is, 
unfortunately, the main reason we so often talk past one another :(

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Piotr Konieczny

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