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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 07:34:10 -0400
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From: Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
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	Content preview:  Yes, sounds reasonable. If someone has a compelling
	reason to start anew, that is Digwuren. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:13 AM,
	Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote: > Regarding Andrei's concerns, I
	think Digwuren would have a number of > legitimate reasons for creating
	a new account according to > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Segregation_and_security
	> where it is permitted to create a alternative account to avoid real >
	world consequences, and we know that Petri Krohn threatened Digwuren >
	with such consequences. > > Another legitimate reason is given in > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name
	> > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Andrei
	Dombay<wikibiophys@gmail.com> > wrote: > > If someone from the Cartel
	identifies you, you will be accused of at > least > > avoiding scrutiny
	> > > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Avoiding_scrutiny
	>
	> > > But since you are currently under sanctions, you will be accused
	of > > avoiding sanctions. You would object that you are not a subject
	of a BAN > > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name
	> > > > but you know that WP is not a legal system. On the other hand, 
	you > probably > > has nothing to loose. > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at
	3:59 AM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 7, 
	2009 at 03:42, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote: > >>> > >>> >
	Except that this would undermine my point that I left Wikipedia out >
	of
	> >>> > frustration over disruptive arbitration before anybody
	restricted me. > >>> > >>> Is this point doing you or us any good? > >>
	> >> The point that I'm not editing with this account will help me to
	avoid > >> checkuser with my next account. > >> -- > >> Andres Soolo >
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	Content preview:  Yes, sounds reasonable. If someone has a compelling
	reason to start anew, that is Digwuren. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:13 AM,
	Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote: > Regarding Andrei's concerns, I
	think Digwuren would have a number of > legitimate reasons for creating
	a new account according to > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Segregation_and_security
	> where it is permitted to create a alternative account to avoid real >
	world consequences, and we know that Petri Krohn threatened Digwuren >
	with such consequences. > > Another legitimate reason is given in > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name
	> > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Andrei
	Dombay<wikibiophys@gmail.com> > wrote: > > If someone from the Cartel
	identifies you, you will be accused of at > least > > avoiding scrutiny
	> > > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Avoiding_scrutiny >
	> > > But since you are currently under sanctions, you will be accused
	of > > avoiding sanctions. You would object that you are not a subject
	of a BAN > > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name
	> > > > but you know that WP is not a legal system. On the other hand,
	you > probably > > has nothing to loose. > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at
	3:59 AM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 7,
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	Except that this would undermine my point that I left Wikipedia out > of
	> >>> > frustration over disruptive arbitration before anybody
	restricted me. > >>> > >>> Is this point doing you or us any good? > >>
	> >> The point that I'm not editing with this account will help me to
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Yes, sounds reasonable. If someone has a compelling reason to start anew,
that is Digwuren.


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:

> Regarding Andrei's concerns, I think Digwuren would have a number of
> legitimate reasons for creating a new account according to
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Segregation_and_security
> where it is permitted to create a alternative account to avoid real
> world consequences, and we know that Petri Krohn threatened Digwuren
> with such consequences.
>
> Another legitimate reason is given in
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Andrei Dombay<wikibiophys@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If someone from the Cartel identifies you, you will be accused of at
> least
> > avoiding scrutiny
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Avoiding_scrutiny
> >
> > But since you are currently under sanctions,  you will be accused of
> > avoiding sanctions. You would object that you are not a subject of a BAN
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name
> >
> > but you know that WP is not a legal system.  On the other hand, you
> probably
> > has nothing to loose.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 03:42, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Except that this would undermine my point that I left Wikipedia out
> of
> >>> > frustration over disruptive arbitration before anybody restricted me.
> >>>
> >>> Is this point doing you or us any good?
> >>
> >> The point that I'm not editing with this account will help me to avoid
> >> checkuser with my next account.
> >> --
> >> Andres Soolo
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Wikipedia statistics discussion list
> >> folks@wikipedometer.net
> >> http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Wikipedia statistics discussion list
> > folks@wikipedometer.net
> > http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Martin
>
> _______________________________________________
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Yes, sounds reasonable. If someone has a compelling reason to start anew, t=
hat is Digwuren.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 =
at 12:13 AM, Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail=
.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Regarding Andrei&=
#39;s concerns, I think Digwuren would have a number of<br>
legitimate reasons for creating a new account according to<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Segregation=
_and_security" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Soc=
k_puppetry#Segregation_and_security</a><br>
where it is permitted to create a alternative account to avoid real<br>
world consequences, and we know that Petri Krohn threatened Digwuren<br>
with such consequences.<br>
<br>
Another legitimate reason is given in<br>
<div class=3D"im"><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_pu=
ppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Andrei Dombay&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; If someone from the Cartel ide=
ntifies you, you will be accused of at least<br>
&gt; avoiding scrutiny<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Avoidi=
ng_scrutiny" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_=
puppetry#Avoiding_scrutiny</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But since you are currently under sanctions,=A0 you will be accused of=
<br>
&gt; avoiding sanctions. You would object that you are not a subject of a B=
AN<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_=
start_under_a_new_name" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki=
pedia:Sock_puppetry#Clean_start_under_a_new_name</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; but you know that WP is not a legal system.=A0 On the other hand, you =
probably<br>
&gt; has nothing to loose.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Digwuren &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwure=
n@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 03:42, Piotr Konieczny &lt;piokon@post.pl&g=
t; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Except that this would undermine my point that I left Wik=
ipedia out of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; frustration over disruptive arbitration before anybody re=
stricted me.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Is this point doing you or us any good?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; The point that I&#39;m not editing with this account will help me =
to avoid<br>
&gt;&gt; checkuser with my next account.<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Andres Soolo<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; Wikipedia statistics discussion list<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net">folks@wikipedometer.net=
</a><br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks=
" target=3D"_blank">http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks=
</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Wikipedia statistics discussion list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net">folks@wikipedometer.net</a>=
<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks</a>=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div>--<br>
Regards,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">Martin<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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