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Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 13:01:09 +1000
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From: Martin <martint20@gmail.com>
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	Content preview: Interesting point. If Gwinndeith does say somewhere
	that
	she is Molobo explicitly, and this is the "secret evidence" they have, 
	then that opens up the possibility that Molobo opponents may have
	created the Gwinndeith explicitly to falsely incriminate Molobo, given
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Interesting point. If Gwinndeith does say somewhere that she is Molobo
explicitly, and this is the "secret evidence" they have, then that
opens up the possibility that Molobo opponents may have created the
Gwinndeith explicitly to falsely incriminate Molobo, given that
Gwinndeith is a relatively new account.

Martin

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:43 AM, radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com> wrote:
> This seems unlikely as neither Molobo nor Gwinndeith have been active
> since beginning of May. Though it could be a method rather than
> specific pieces of evidence. I don't know, Sciurin=E6 doesn't come off
> as someone ... really really smart ... so I doubt it's anything
> complicated. There's probably just a lot of it and AdjustShift might
> be busy with other stuff so he's putting it off.
> At the end of the day it's got to come down to correlations between
> edit content and/or IPs (which can arise for a lot of reasons) unless
> somewhere Gwinndeith says she's Molobo explicitly.
>
> 2009/5/24 Martin <martint20@gmail.com>:
>> But then again perhaps AdjustShift is looking for a change of IP
>> location that would indicate the alleged sock account has been handed
>> over. This counter intelligence stuff is so tricky.
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I note that AdjustShift has delayed closing the case from the 24th to
>>> the 29th. Perhaps he doesn't have "secret evidence" per se, but some
>>> kind of "secret" method of collecting it and the delay is intended to
>>> provide more time to observe Molobo's behaviour with this method. That
>>> would fit with Sciurin=E6's desire to keep it secret for future
>>> investigations.
>>>
>>> What I suspect is that AdjustShift will release is the results of this
>>> method, while keeping this method itself secret. Ofcourse this is all
>>> just pure speculation. I don't believe Molobo was engaged in
>>> sockpuppetry, as I don't think he is that dumb. But just for
>>> argument's sake the course of action would be to privately handover
>>> the username and password of this sock account to some trusted third
>>> party so that ongoing activity cannot be linked. But again this is
>>> just speculation.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 22:59, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A rather unpleasant attempt is being made during a sockpuppet
>>>>> investigation into my person. Mainly to accept "secret evidence" that=
 is
>>>>> being produced by German editors making the accusations.
>>>>
>>>> Any idea on what the evidence might be?
>>>> --
>>>> Andres Soolo
>>>>
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