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See this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Appeal

Still, I think S. is wrong. A proper warning must be given. Period.

The purpose of the warning is not only make a user aware of the case, but
also tell him that his specific way of behavior is the subject of these
specific sanctions. He may be not aware that making just a few questionable
reverts made him a subject of the discretionary sanctions, and in fact I was
unaware of that.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote:

> Keep in mind that Shotlandya was wrongly sanctioned by Sandstein. ArbCom
> ruling tells:
>
> "Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be
> given a warning with a link to this decision by an uninvolved
> administrator..."
>
> He had to receive not just any warning, by a warning by administrator with
> "link to this decision". Referring to this is your main protection if you
> are brought to AE based on this case (unless you are already included in the
> list of warnings in the case; some of you are).
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren#List_of_editors_placed_under_editing_restriction
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:58 AM, <PetersJV@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>  Sandstein will consider older evidence, the key is to not be misbehaving
>> now. We'll need to be more careful but so will the opposition.
>> /Peters
>>
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See this:<br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitrat=
ion/Requests/Enforcement#Appeal">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arb=
itration/Requests/Enforcement#Appeal</a><br><br>Still, I think S. is wrong.=
 A proper warning must be given. Period. <br>
<br>The purpose of the warning is not only make a user aware of the case, b=
ut also tell him that his specific way of behavior is the subject of these =
specific sanctions. He may be not aware that making just a few questionable=
 reverts made him a subject of the discretionary sanctions, and in fact I w=
as unaware of that. =A0  <br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Andrei Domb=
ay <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibioph=
ys@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
 padding-left: 1ex;">
Keep in mind that Shotlandya was wrongly sanctioned by Sandstein. ArbCom ru=
ling tells:<br><br>&quot;Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor i=
n question shall be
given a warning with a link to this decision by an uninvolved
administrator...&quot;<br><br>He had to receive not just any warning, by a =
warning by administrator with &quot;link to this decision&quot;. Referring =
to this is your main protection if you are brought to AE based on this case=
 (unless you are already included in the list of warnings in the case; some=
 of you are).<br>

<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitrat=
ion/Digwuren#List_of_editors_placed_under_editing_restriction" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwu=
ren#List_of_editors_placed_under_editing_restriction</a><br>

<h1><span></span></h1><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div c=
lass=3D"h5">On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:58 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:PetersJV@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">PetersJV@aol.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>=
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<div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial;"><f=
ont color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">
<div>Sandstein will consider older evidence, the key is to not be misbehavi=
ng=20
now. We&#39;ll need to be more careful but so will the opposition.</div>
<div>/Peters</div></font><div><br><font style=3D"color: black; font-family:=
 arial,san-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: no=
rmal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-st=
retch: normal;"> <hr style=3D"margin-top: 10px;">

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