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I looked into it and I think I would be able to compile a pretty strong cas=
e against Bandurist and his battleground creation including wheel warring a=
nd political provocations right across the board (not just about Poland)=2C=
 beginning with threats on his user page=2C removal of well referenced book=
 info=2C angry lies in his re-writes=2C BLP violations and so on=2C however=
=2C I=92m also prone to listening to what others say around here=2C that=92=
s why=2C I decided to put my report on hold and see what happens next and h=
ow you guys respond to my idea.=20

=20

Please do not misunderstand my intentions though. The fact that I=92m passi=
onate about writing does not mean that I have strong opinions about any par=
ticular subject. I=92m passionate about everything I choose to write about=
=2C that=92s why over 30 of my new articles were selected as leading DYKs. =
=96 That is no accident.=20

=20

I doubled the size of the article about the Holocaust in Poland bringing re=
al knowledge into it with due weight and historical balance=2C as soon as B=
oodlesthecat and Moordoor went away and stopped stabbing me in the back. I =
would do the same for Volhynia as soon as Bandurist=2C Faustian and Lvivske=
 were dealt with properly=2C because none of them is objective or willing t=
o compromise. I responded to them =96 in talk =96 the same way most grownup=
s respond to nasty boys who play dumb. =96 Some users will never stop abusi=
ng the open format under the cover of anonymity until they ARE stopped=2C b=
ecause that is the modus operandi in Wikipedia. Even so=2C I do pay attenti=
on=2C especially to you.=20

=20

Cheers=2C=20
Richard (Poeticbent) Tylman


=20


Date: Sat=2C 22 Aug 2009 22:57:43 -0700
From: basiaipiotr@yahoo.com
To: folks@wikipedometer.net
Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist






Oh come on=2C I called him a pain in the ass=2C just like I am pain in the =
ass for some editors as well. In a perfect world=2C we all would always agr=
ee with each other=2C but fortunately=2C the world is not perfect=2C and we=
 are pain in the ass for somebody else.  Do not take it too seriously.=20
=20
Tymek

--- On Sun=2C 8/23/09=2C Ostap R <ostap30@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Ostap R <ostap30@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Sunday=2C August 23=2C 2009=2C 12:44 AM


Bandurist is also an opinionated user=2C but he is able to compromise and w=
ork collaboratively.


On Sat=2C Aug 22=2C 2009 at 11:50 PM=2C piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com=
> wrote:






OK you guys=2C I think it is time to stop this nonsense.
=20
Poeticbent=2C you have a very strong opinion on Volhynian Genocide=2C and I=
 share it with you. However=2C some of your remarks to Faustian were very r=
ude=2C especially when we talk about a user who can be regarded as unbiased=
 here.=20
=20
Ostap=2C who otherwise is very friendly towards Poles and Poland=2C got pis=
sed off at some point=2C and supported your ban. He then changed his stance=
=2C and this should be appreciated.
=20
Now you two=2C stop acting like kids. Come visit me in Chicago=2C we will h=
ave some vodka (Nemiroff honey-pepper=2C I have been wanting to taste it fo=
r a while)=2C and you will forget about this stupid argument=2C which is tu=
rning personal. I myself have had my share of arguments here=2C with Hilloc=
k and Molobo=2C and I am pretty sure there are more in front of me=2C but I=
 try not to take it to personal level (and I hope Hillock and Molobo do not=
 dislike me). The world is beautiful because we have different opinions=2C =
the Commies tried to change it=2C fortunately they failed.=20
=20
Bandurist can be a pain in the ass=2C but when I recall those bitches Mordo=
or or Boodlesthecat=2C he looks like an angel to me.=20
=20
Tymek



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 beginning with threats on his user page=2C removal of well referenced book=
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=2C I=92m also prone to listening to what others say around here=2C that=92=
s why=2C I decided to put my report on hold and see what happens next and h=
ow you guys respond to my idea. <BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Please do not misunderstand my intentions though. The fact that I=92m passi=
onate about writing does not mean that I have strong opinions about any par=
ticular subject. I=92m passionate about everything I choose to write about=
=2C that=92s why over 30 of my new articles were selected as leading DYKs. =
=96 That is no accident. <BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
I doubled the size of the article about the Holocaust in Poland bringing re=
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oodlesthecat and Moordoor went away and stopped stabbing me in the back. I =
would do the same for Volhynia as soon as Bandurist=2C Faustian and Lvivske=
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I do pay attention=2C especially&nbsp=3Bto&nbsp=3Byou. <BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Cheers=2C <BR>Richard (Poeticbent) Tylman<BR>
<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
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Date: Sat=2C 22 Aug 2009 22:57:43 -0700<BR>From: basiaipiotr@yahoo.com<BR>T=
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<DIV>Ostap=2C who otherwise is very friendly towards Poles and Poland=2C go=
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is turning personal. I myself have had my share of arguments here=2C with H=
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<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>Bandurist can be a pain in the ass=2C but when I recall those bitches =
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