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	both Paul (read PA-OOL) and Pavel are used
	without preference to any of them. half of Pauls/Pavels are Pauls and
	the other half are Pavels. But they do stick to the way their name was
	at birth. The exception is the Saint, who is rendered both ways,
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In Romanian, both Paul (read PA-OOL) and Pavel are used without preference
to any of them. half of Pauls/Pavels are Pauls and the other half are
Pavels. But they do stick to the way their name was at birth. The exception
is the Saint, who is rendered both ways, sometimes even on the same page.
With girls, Paulina sounds ok, but Pavelina or Pavlina sounds foreign to
Romanians. however, girls these names are extremely rare in Romanian
comparatively to Paul/Pavel, of which are a couple percentages of
population.
Now, if you have a westerner of Romanian extraction, even a Jew, you might
find Pavel. And the person wouldn't be of Russian extraction.

I suppose other east-European nations (Serbians? Ukrainians?) might also
contribute such Pavels to the west.

Dorin

2009/7/14 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>

> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 23:33, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> You may look at this discussion:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gulag#Zemskov.27d_data_is_a_reliable_sourse
>> .
>>
>> At the end, Siebert tells me: "Hey man, I know where did you work in
>> Moscow":
>
>
> Out of curiosity, is it common to interpret the Russian name 'Pavel' as
> 'Paul' ?  Off the top of my head, the only Pavel in the West I can think of
> is Pavel Breder, the author of POWER for CP/M and a few ofter nifty things
> from the microcomputer revolution era.  But AFAIU, it's relatively common
> name in Russia, so it should be more widely represented among the Russian
> diaspora.
>
> --
> Andres Soolo
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In Romanian, both Paul (read PA-OOL) and Pavel are used without preference =
to any of them. half of Pauls/Pavels are Pauls and the other half are Pavel=
s. But they do stick to the way their name was at birth. The exception is t=
he Saint, who is rendered both ways, sometimes even on the same page. With =
girls, Paulina sounds ok, but Pavelina or Pavlina sounds foreign to Romania=
ns. however, girls these names are extremely rare in Romanian comparatively=
 to Paul/Pavel, of which are a couple percentages of population.<div>
<br></div><div>Now, if you have a westerner of Romanian extraction, even a =
Jew, you might find Pavel. And the person wouldn&#39;t be of Russian extrac=
tion.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I suppose other east-European nations (Se=
rbians? Ukrainians?) might also contribute such Pavels to the west.<br>
<div><br></div><div><div>Dorin</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">200=
9/7/14 Digwuren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com"=
>digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 23:33,=
 Andrei Dombay <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">

You may look at this discussion:<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki=
/Talk:Gulag#Zemskov.27d_data_is_a_reliable_sourse" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gulag#Zemskov.27d_data_is_a_reliable_sourse</a>=
.<br>

<br>At the end, Siebert tells me: &quot;Hey man, I know where did you work =
in Moscow&quot;:</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Out of curiosity, is=
 it common to interpret the Russian name &#39;Pavel&#39; as &#39;Paul&#39; =
? =A0Off the top of my head, the only Pavel in the West I can think of is P=
avel Breder, the author of POWER for CP/M and a few ofter nifty things from=
 the microcomputer revolution era. =A0But AFAIU, it&#39;s relatively common=
 name in Russia, so it should be more widely represented among the Russian =
diaspora.</div>

<div><br></div><div>--=A0</div></div>Andres Soolo<br>
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