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Several technical problems:
1) It needs to be a separate computer and a separate IP address, untraceable
to our accounts, otherwise we can be blocked (their revenge for treason
would be mad, plus this would show to admins a spirit of increasing the
level of fight, the permaban is guaranteed)

2) Cyrillic keys. It is possible to install them, but secondary things must
also be in Russian, not just the content of emails. Compiling a list of such
things is a challenge already.

3) Acting, and I mean talent. Not everybody can do this. The story must be
big and full, with tons of details. They should be able to see the email
path to a country and city were there is plausible to exist Russians. Also
you have to be able to tell stories about that place, and be able to tell
something about the Russian community there. Even better would be if "your
full name" was googleable. Not having any traceable details would raise
suspicions.

Interestingly, but you know, many secret services have started this way...
:) I mean if you go back 100 years ago. For example, the Chinese Communist
Party had a secret service since 1920s, and it started with a number of guys
like us. I once read a book about this.  :):):)

2009/6/15 Martin <martint20@gmail.com>

> I have an idea.
>
> What if one of us creates a new Wikipedia account (or even uses an
> existing one), it would have to be someone who had a grasp of Russian,
> then after a week or two does some pro-Soviet edits, then get to know
> PU, Offliner and Russavia. Perhaps they also run some sort of off-wiki
> channel that this user may then get invited into.
>
> It would be a great way to learn their backgrounds, find out who these
> people are.
>
> We could fake little edit wars with our mole, even have our mole
> violate 3rr, to make it convincing. The Cabal have had a set back with
> PU blocked and Shotlandiya topic banned, so they may welcome a new
> comer. Now may be a good opportunity to do this.
>
> Martin
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Several technical problems:<div><br></div><div>1) It needs to be a separate=
 computer and a separate IP address, untraceable to our accounts, otherwise=
 we can be blocked (their revenge for treason would be mad, plus this would=
 show to admins a spirit of increasing the level of fight, the permaban is =
guaranteed)</div>
<div><br></div><div>2) Cyrillic keys. It is possible to install them, but s=
econdary things must also be in Russian, not just the content of emails. Co=
mpiling a list of such things is a challenge already.</div><div><br></div>
<div>3) Acting, and I mean talent. Not everybody can do this. The story mus=
t be big and full, with tons of details. They should be able to see the ema=
il path to a country and city were there is plausible to exist Russians. Al=
so you have to be able to tell stories about that place, and be able to tel=
l something about the Russian community there. Even better would be if &quo=
t;your full name&quot; was googleable. Not having any traceable details wou=
ld raise suspicions.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Interestingly, but you know, many secret services have =
started this way... :) I mean if you go back 100 years ago. For example, th=
e Chinese Communist Party had a secret service since 1920s, and it started =
with a number of guys like us. I once read a book about this. =A0:):):) =A0=
<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/15 Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I have an idea.<br>
<br>
What if one of us creates a new Wikipedia account (or even uses an<br>
existing one), it would have to be someone who had a grasp of Russian,<br>
then after a week or two does some pro-Soviet edits, then get to know<br>
PU, Offliner and Russavia. Perhaps they also run some sort of off-wiki<br>
channel that this user may then get invited into.<br>
<br>
It would be a great way to learn their backgrounds, find out who these<br>
people are.<br>
<br>
We could fake little edit wars with our mole, even have our mole<br>
violate 3rr, to make it convincing. The Cabal have had a set back with<br>
PU blocked and Shotlandiya topic banned, so they may welcome a new<br>
comer. Now may be a good opportunity to do this.<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
<br>
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