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	Content preview: He's threatened Digwuren on Communist genocide as
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He's threatened Digwuren on Communist genocide as well.

Also, don't forget these two (same) edits a few days back which are
obviously POINT and disruptive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSoviet-run_peace_movements_in_t=
he_West&diff=3Dprev&oldid=3D306097994
and then reinserting it
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSoviet-run_peace_movements_in_t=
he_West&diff=3Dprev&oldid=3D306242661
with a pretty revealing edit summary (go ahead and prove it wrong - i.e.
feed the trolling)
Strangely enough he got reverted by Russavia on that one, probably because
Russavia saw that it was an edit that could get PU in trouble but PU
reverting it himself would be admitting he's screwing around.

Radek


2009/8/17 <PetersJV@aol.com>

>  PU's obviously much more active. I skewered him on edits/reverts he
> recently made on neo-Stalinism--which completely misrepresented the sourc=
e
> and indeed said things which the source in NO WAY stated. (Please feel fr=
ee
> to use the edit trail as evidence.)
>
> I'm now working on South Ossetia, where I can use some help... before I
> attempt to drive a stake through PasswordUsername's and HistoricWarrior00=
7's
> hearts at South Ossetia, I need confirmation from a Russian speaker that =
the
> following is correct.
>
> "=F1 =D7=CF=DA=C7=CC=C1=D7=CC=D1=CC =CE=C1 =C0=D6=CE=CF=CF=D3=C5=D4=C9=CE=
=D3=CB=CF=CD =C9 =C7=D2=D5=DA=C9=CE=D3=CB=CF=CD =CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=CC=C5=CE=
=C9=C9."
>
> "I headed to South Ossetia and Georgian area."
>
> "=CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=CC=C5=CE=C9=C9" literally means "direction" but it ma=
kes no sense (as
> English) in the Borisov interview if one used that word instead of area.
> Anything on backing up this version of translation would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
> A complete translation in the vernacular of:
>
> =F1 =D7=CF=DA=C7=CC=C1=D7=CC=D1=CC =CE=C1 =C0=D6=CE=CF=CF=D3=C5=D4=C9=CE=
=D3=CB=CF=CD =C9 =C7=D2=D5=DA=C9=CE=D3=CB=CF=CD =CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=CC=C5=CE=
=C9=C9. =F7=D9 =D0=CF=CE=C9=CD=C1=C5=D4=C5, =CD=D9
> =C4=C1=D6=C5 =D7 =D4=C5=C8 =D2=C1=CA=CF=CE=C1=C8 =D5=DE=C5=CE=C9=D1 =C4=
=C1=D6=C5 =D0=CF=D3=D4=CF=D1=CE=CE=CF =D0=D2=CF=D7=CF=C4=C9=CD. =E9 =CE=C1=
=DB=C9 =D7=CF=CA=D3=CB=C1 =D0=CF=CC=D5=DE=C9=CC=C9
> =D0=CF=CC=CE=D5=C0 =D0=D2=C1=CB=D4=C9=CB=D5, =DA=C1 =CE=C5=C4=C5=CC=C0 =
=C4=CF =DC=D4=CF=C7=CF =D0=D2=CF=D7=CF=C4=D1 =D5=DE=C5=CE=C9=D1 =C9=CD=C5=
=CE=CE=CF =D4=C1=CD, =D7 =D4=C5=C8 =D6=C5
> =CD=C5=D3=D4=C1=C8.
>
> would be even better! As stilted as PasswordUsername's and
> HistoricWarrior007's translations are (HU resorting to
> http://translation2.paralink.com/ as "proof" of the word direction, a
> machine translation; and PU adding a litany on how =CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=CC=
=C5=CE=C9=C9 can't
> possibly mean area), I can tell they are avoiding the intent of what Bori=
sov
> communicated. Of course I could pay an impartial translation service (not
> that expensive for a short bit of text), however, I need to know that I'm
> barking up the right tree. (And it might be worth doing that just to shar=
pen
> the stake.) Thanks!
>
> I don't want to get PasswordUsername on disruptive behavior like reverts,=
 I
> want to get him on that AND blatant misrepresentation of sources, all the
> while inserting and reverting to push his POV. (His most recent talk entr=
y
> at South Ossetia threatened "DIGWUREN", so I know I have his attention.) =
If
> I can take care of HistoricWarrior007 in the process, that would be a bon=
us.
>
> /Peters
>
> P.S. The Wiki Borisov article translates the last part of obviously this
> original statement as "a week before the war they held military exercises
> exactly there, in those places". I don't want to draw attention to that
> article until I've got a solid translation of the Borisov quote.
>
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He&#39;s threatened Digwuren on Communist genocide as well.<br><br>Also, do=
n&#39;t forget these two (same) edits a few days back which are obviously P=
OINT and disruptive:<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?titl=
e=3DSoviet-run_peace_movements_in_the_West&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D3060=
97994">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSoviet-run_peace_movemen=
ts_in_the_West&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D306097994</a><br>
and then reinserting it<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?t=
itle=3DSoviet-run_peace_movements_in_the_West&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D3=
06242661">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSoviet-run_peace_move=
ments_in_the_West&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D306242661</a><br>
with a pretty revealing edit summary (go ahead and prove it wrong - i.e. fe=
ed the trolling)<br>Strangely enough he got reverted by Russavia on that on=
e, probably because Russavia saw that it was an edit that could get PU in t=
rouble but PU reverting it himself would be admitting he&#39;s screwing aro=
und.<br>
<br>Radek<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/8/17  <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:PetersJV@aol.com">PetersJV@aol.com</a>&gt;</span><b=
r><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204=
, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">




<div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial;"><f=
ont size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">
<div>PU&#39;s obviously much more active. I skewered him on edits/reverts h=
e=20
recently made on neo-Stalinism--which completely misrepresented the source =
and=20
indeed said things which the source in NO WAY stated. (Please feel free to =
use=20
the edit trail as evidence.)</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>I&#39;m now working on South Ossetia, where I can use some help... bef=
ore I=20
attempt to drive a stake through PasswordUsername&#39;s and HistoricWarrior=
007&#39;s=20
hearts at South Ossetia, I need confirmation from a Russian speaker that th=
e=20
following is correct.</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>&quot;=F1 =D7=CF=DA=C7=CC=C1=D7=CC=D1=CC =CE=C1 =C0=D6=CE=CF=CF=D3=C5=
=D4=C9=CE=D3=CB=CF=CD =C9 =C7=D2=D5=DA=C9=CE=D3=CB=CF=CD =CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=
=CC=C5=CE=C9=C9.&quot;<br>=9A<br>&quot;I=20
headed to South Ossetia and Georgian area.&quot;</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>&quot;=CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=CC=C5=CE=C9=C9&quot; literally means &quot;di=
rection&quot; but it makes no sense (as=20
English) in the Borisov interview if one used that word instead of area.=20
Anything on backing up this version of translation would be greatly=20
appreciated!</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>A complete translation in the vernacular of:</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>=F1 =D7=CF=DA=C7=CC=C1=D7=CC=D1=CC =CE=C1 =C0=D6=CE=CF=CF=D3=C5=D4=C9=
=CE=D3=CB=CF=CD =C9 =C7=D2=D5=DA=C9=CE=D3=CB=CF=CD =CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=CC=C5=
=CE=C9=C9. =F7=D9 =D0=CF=CE=C9=CD=C1=C5=D4=C5, =CD=D9=20
=C4=C1=D6=C5 =D7 =D4=C5=C8 =D2=C1=CA=CF=CE=C1=C8 =D5=DE=C5=CE=C9=D1 =C4=C1=
=D6=C5 =D0=CF=D3=D4=CF=D1=CE=CE=CF =D0=D2=CF=D7=CF=C4=C9=CD. =E9 =CE=C1=DB=
=C9 =D7=CF=CA=D3=CB=C1 =D0=CF=CC=D5=DE=C9=CC=C9 =D0=CF=CC=CE=D5=C0=20
=D0=D2=C1=CB=D4=C9=CB=D5, =DA=C1 =CE=C5=C4=C5=CC=C0 =C4=CF =DC=D4=CF=C7=CF =
=D0=D2=CF=D7=CF=C4=D1 =D5=DE=C5=CE=C9=D1 =C9=CD=C5=CE=CE=CF =D4=C1=CD, =D7 =
=D4=C5=C8 =D6=C5 =CD=C5=D3=D4=C1=C8.</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>would be even better! As stilted as PasswordUsername&#39;s and=20
HistoricWarrior007&#39;s translations are (HU resorting to <a href=3D"http:=
//translation2.paralink.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://translation2.paralin=
k.com/</a>=20
as &quot;proof&quot; of the word direction, a machine translation; and PU a=
dding a litany=20
on how =CE=C1=D0=D2=C1=D7=CC=C5=CE=C9=C9 can&#39;t possibly mean area), I c=
an tell they are avoiding the=20
intent of what Borisov communicated. Of course I could pay an impartial=20
translation service (not that expensive for a short bit of text), however, =
I=20
need to know that I&#39;m barking up the right tree. (And it might be worth=
 doing=20
that just to sharpen the stake.) Thanks!</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>I don&#39;t want to get PasswordUsername on disruptive behavior like r=
everts, I=20
want to get him on that AND blatant misrepresentation of sources, all the w=
hile=20
inserting and reverting to push his POV. (His most recent talk entry at Sou=
th=20
Ossetia threatened &quot;DIGWUREN&quot;, so I know I have his attention.) I=
f I can take=20
care of HistoricWarrior007 in the process, that would be a bonus.</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>/Peters</div>
<div>=9A</div>
<div>P.S. The Wiki Borisov article translates the last part of obviously th=
is=20
original statement as &quot;a week before the war they held military exerci=
ses=20
exactly there, in those places&quot;. I don&#39;t want to draw attention to=
 that article=20
until I&#39;ve got a solid translation of the Borisov=20
quote.<br></div></font><div><br><font style=3D"color: black; font-family: a=
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