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	and there is nothing anti-Polish in describing this event. Just like
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Now we have an article about the 1930 pacification, I knew about this event=
, but Hillock just used the term pacification, not specifying what he had i=
n mind. Anyway, should I call this article "anti - Polish", just like Hillo=
ck called some articles "anti - Ukrainian"? It is obvious that I will not d=
o it, as this is history, painful as it was, and there is nothing anti-Poli=
sh in describing this event. Just like there is nothing anti-Ukrainian in d=
escribing the Volhynian Genocide.
=A0
BTW I think the name 1930 Pacification of Ukrainians in Poland would be the=
 best name.
=A0
Tymek

--- On Sun, 8/2/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in inte=
rwar Poland
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 11:58 PM


Hmm, that site seems to be from radical far-left ?

2009/8/3 O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca>:
>
> I renamed it to Pacification of Ukrainians, that is the term that best kn=
own in English literature. It is similar to Polish terminology as well: Pac=
yfikacja Lemkowszczyzny, Ukraincow i Bialorusinow http://www.geocities.com/=
arch_lbc/1522zbrodnie2rp.htm
>
> --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in i=
nterwar Poland
>> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>> Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 11:28 AM
>> The title might be sensitive.
>> Any alternate proposals ?
>>
>> 2009/8/3 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
>> > Molobo Molobo wrote:
>> >> As a show of good will gesture and to demonstrate
>> that we can discuss
>> >> difficult issues
>> >> Tymek didn't knew about pacification of Ukrainian
>> villages and O.G
>> >> would like to start an article, it turns out it
>> already exists on
>> >> Polish Wikipedia:
>> >> http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacyfikacja_Ma%C5%82opolski_Wschodniej
>> >
>> > Stubbed, will expand:
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Lesser_Poland
>> >
>> > --
>> > Piotr Konieczny
>> >
>> > "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in
>> reality, not in
>> > theory."
>> >
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Now we have an article about the 1930 pa=
cification, I knew about this event, but Hillock just used the term pacific=
ation, not specifying what he had in mind. Anyway, should I call this artic=
le "anti - Polish", just like Hillock called some articles "anti - Ukrainia=
n"? It is obvious that I will not do it, as this is history, painful as it =
was, and there is nothing anti-Polish in describing this event. Just like t=
here is nothing anti-Ukrainian in describing the Volhynian Genocide.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>BTW I think the name 1930 Pacification of Ukrainians in Poland would b=
e the best name.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 8/2/09, Molobo Molobo <I>&lt;molobus@gmail=
.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Molobo Molobo &lt;molobus@gmail.com&gt;<BR>=
Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in inte=
rwar Poland<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;folks@wikipedometer.net&gt;<B=
R>Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 11:58 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>Hmm, that site seems to be from radical far-left ?<B=
R><BR>2009/8/3 O. G. &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compo=
se?to=3Dhillock@yahoo.ca" ymailto=3D"mailto:hillock@yahoo.ca">hillock@yahoo=
.ca</A>&gt;:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I renamed it to Pacification of Ukrainians, th=
at is the term that best known in English literature. It is similar to Poli=
sh terminology as well: Pacyfikacja Lemkowszczyzny, Ukraincow i Bialorusino=
w <A href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/arch_lbc/1522zbrodnie2rp.htm" target=
=3D_blank>http://www.geocities.com/arch_lbc/1522zbrodnie2rp.htm</A><BR>&gt;=
<BR>&gt; --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.m=
ail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:molobus@=
gmail.com">molobus@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; From: Molob=
o Molobo &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolo=
bus@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmail.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>&gt;&gt;
 Subject: Re: [WPM] Article about Pacification of Ukrainian villages in int=
erwar Poland<BR>&gt;&gt; To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;<A href=3D"http://u=
s.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net">folks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;=
 Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 11:28 AM<BR>&gt;&gt; The title might be =
sensitive.<BR>&gt;&gt; Any alternate proposals ?<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; 20=
09/8/3 Piotr Konieczny &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/com=
pose?to=3Dpiokon@post.pl" ymailto=3D"mailto:piokon@post.pl">piokon@post.pl<=
/A>&gt;:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; Molobo Molobo wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; As a sh=
ow of good will gesture and to demonstrate<BR>&gt;&gt; that we can discuss<=
BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; difficult issues<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Tymek didn't kne=
w about pacification of Ukrainian<BR>&gt;&gt; villages and O.G<BR>&gt;&gt; =
&gt;&gt; would like to start an article, it turns out it<BR>&gt;&gt; alread=
y
 exists on<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Polish Wikipedia:<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; <A h=
ref=3D"http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacyfikacja_Ma%C5%82opolski_Wschodniej"=
 target=3D_blank>http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacyfikacja_Ma%C5%82opolski_W=
schodniej</A><BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; Stubbed, will expand:<BR>&g=
t;&gt; &gt; <A href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Lesser_=
Poland" target=3D_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Lesser=
_Poland</A><BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; --<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt; Piotr Kon=
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