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	Yes, he has communication problems and sometimes behave irrationally.
	But > I talked with him just fine when he was Hanzo. He is a nice man
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	serious > problems in personal life based on articles he edits and his
	talk. Not much > can be done here. > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at
	8:28 PM, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote: > >> Andrei Dombay
	wrote: >> > BTW, watch carefully after this guy: >> > >> > >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ostateczny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji
	>> > >> > That is our friend HanzoHattori. Try NOT to contact him, as
	not to bring >> > attention of the Russian team. He has email - use
	email if you need to >> > contact him. >> > >> > He usually does
	technical edits. What a hell they blocked him? >> >> He couldn't keep
	his mouth shut, nor be smart when it comes to NPA: >> >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_proposed
	>> Calling figures in powers (admins...) fags and idiots is never a
	good
	>> strategy. >> >> Alex (!) proposed unbanning of him but it didn't
	pass (I supported it): >> >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive470#Productive_socks
	>> >> Interestingly, editors who were supportive with his ban and are
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	Jun 23, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote: >
	Yes, he has communication problems and sometimes behave irrationally.
	But > I talked with him just fine when he was Hanzo. He is a nice man
	although > often not responsive. I wonder that he probably had/has some
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	8:28 PM, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote: > >> Andrei Dombay
	wrote: >> > BTW, watch carefully after this guy: >> > >> > >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ostateczny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji
	>> > >> > That is our friend HanzoHattori. Try NOT to contact him, as
	not to bring >> > attention of the Russian team. He has email - use
	email if you need to >> > contact him. >> > >> > He usually does
	technical edits. What a hell they blocked him? >> >> He couldn't keep
	his mouth shut, nor be smart when it comes to NPA: >> >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_proposed
	>> Calling figures in powers (admins...) fags and idiots is never a good
	>> strategy. >> >> Alex (!) proposed unbanning of him but it didn't pass
	(I supported it): >> >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive470#Productive_socks
	>> >> Interestingly, editors who were supportive with his ban and are
	pursuing >> his socks include Jehochmann and Russavia. >> >> I don't
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	again, if we can cite good work done by him, but really, he >> should be
	the one working towards that - and he never replied to my >> proposal on
	his talk page to discuss his unbanning), but at the very >> least we may
	learn something from his persistence. >> >> -- >> Piotr Konieczny >> >>
	"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
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Alex, as usually, made a proposal in Machiavelli style: to unban him AND
Mvei. Not a starter at all, and Alex knew that.


On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yes, he has communication problems and sometimes behave irrationally.  But
> I talked with him just fine when he was Hanzo. He  is a nice man although
> often not responsive.  I wonder that  he probably had/has some serious
> problems in personal life based on articles he edits and his talk. Not much
> can be done here.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:
>
>> Andrei Dombay wrote:
>> > BTW, watch carefully after this guy:
>> >
>> >
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ostateczny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji
>> >
>> > That is our friend HanzoHattori. Try NOT to contact him, as not to bring
>> > attention of the Russian team.  He has email - use email if you need to
>> > contact him.
>> >
>> > He usually does  technical edits. What a hell they blocked him?
>>
>> He couldn't keep his mouth shut, nor be smart when it comes to NPA:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_proposed
>> Calling figures in powers (admins...) fags and idiots is never a good
>> strategy.
>>
>> Alex (!) proposed unbanning of him but it didn't pass (I supported it):
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive470#Productive_socks
>>
>> Interestingly, editors who were supportive with his ban and are pursuing
>> his socks include Jehochmann and Russavia.
>>
>> I don't know what can be done about Hanzo (one could try to propose
>> unbanning again, if we can cite good work done by him, but really, he
>> should be the one working towards that - and he never replied to my
>> proposal on his talk page to discuss his unbanning), but at the very
>> least we may learn something from his persistence.
>>
>> --
>> Piotr Konieczny
>>
>> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
>> theory."
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikipedia statistics discussion list
>> folks@wikipedometer.net
>> http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks
>>
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Alex, as usually, made a proposal in Machiavelli style: to unban him AND Mv=
ei. Not a starter at all, and Alex knew that.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Andrei Dombay <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Yes, he has commu=
nication problems and sometimes behave irrationally.=A0 But I talked with h=
im just fine when he was Hanzo. He=A0 is a nice man although often not resp=
onsive.=A0 I wonder that=A0 he probably had/has some serious problems in pe=
rsonal life based on articles he edits and his talk. Not much can be done h=
ere.<div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>=A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, =
Piotr Konieczny <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div>Andrei Dombay wrote:<br>
&gt; BTW, watch carefully after this guy:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ostatecz=
ny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki=
/Special:Contributions/Ostateczny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; That is our friend HanzoHattori. Try NOT to contact him, as not to bri=
ng<br>
&gt; attention of the Russian team. =A0He has email - use email if you need=
 to<br>
&gt; contact him.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; He usually does =A0technical edits. What a hell they blocked him?<br>
<br>
</div>He couldn&#39;t keep his mouth shut, nor be smart when it comes to NP=
A:<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeb=
oard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_proposed" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia=
.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_pr=
oposed</a><br>


Calling figures in powers (admins...) fags and idiots is never a good<br>
strategy.<br>
<br>
Alex (!) proposed unbanning of him but it didn&#39;t pass (I supported it):=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeb=
oard/IncidentArchive470#Productive_socks" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikip=
edia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive470#Pr=
oductive_socks</a><br>


<br>
Interestingly, editors who were supportive with his ban and are pursuing<br=
>
his socks include Jehochmann and Russavia.<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know what can be done about Hanzo (one could try to propose<br>
unbanning again, if we can cite good work done by him, but really, he<br>
should be the one working towards that - and he never replied to my<br>
proposal on his talk page to discuss his unbanning), but at the very<br>
least we may learn something from his persistence.<br>
<div><br>
--<br>
Piotr Konieczny<br>
<br>
&quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
<br>
theory.&quot;<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
</div><div><div></div><div>Wikipedia statistics discussion list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D"_blank">folks@wikipedo=
meter.net</a><br>
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=3D"_blank">http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks</a><br>
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