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Generally, I am not in favor of arbitrations, banning of users, and all tha=
t crap. The only exceptions were Boodlesthecat and Mordoor, two Jewish-Comm=
unist assholes, whom all Polish editors remember too well. Well, Polish Jew=
ry is another story, unrelated to the one here.
=A0
Anyway, the thing is that the Ukrainians, the Russians, the Germans, the Li=
thuanians, the Poles, and all other nationalities have their own histories,=
 and none is better than any other. I may disagree with some Germans, Russi=
ans=A0or some Ukrainians, and I totally disagree with Molobo, who happens t=
o be Polish. Still, the last thing on my mind is to try to get anyone banne=
d.=20
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The Germans were the murderers, as well as the Ukrainians, and the Russians=
, and the Poles,=A0and they all were victims as well. We cannot and should =
not expect history of Eastern Europe to be written from Polish POV only. Po=
eticbent, please change your stance.
=A0
Tymek
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--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 4:29 PM






Agree with Piotrus on this one, we should absolutely settle our differences=
 here and act united.
P.S.
I'm getting better, less pain but still typing with one finger.
Jacek =A0 =A0

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:


From: Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>
Subject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 11:47 AM


Andrei Dombay wrote:
> To Richard Tylman,
>=20
> Although Bandurist has strong Ukrainian nationalistic views, I would=20
> advise against opening an RfC case about him, if that is what you mean.=
=A0=20
> He was good in keeping certain Soviet trolls at bay, and this seems to=20
> be an unnecessary confrontation.

I'd prefer to avoid showing off Polish-Ukrainian conflict in public, to=20
avoid weakening us against other editors.

What I'd suggest is that the evidence against Bandurist is presented=20
here, and discussed, and that our Ukrainian members try to rein him in.

--=20
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=20
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appens to be Polish. Still, the last thing on my mind is to try to get anyo=
ne banned. </DIV>
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<DIV>The Germans were the murderers, as well as the Ukrainians, and the Rus=
sians, and the Poles,&nbsp;and they all were victims as well. We cannot and=
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only. Poeticbent, please change your stance.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 8/23/09, Jack <I>&lt;jacurek@yahoo.com&gt;</I><=
/B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Jack &lt;jacurek@yahoo.com&gt;<BR>Subject: =
Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;folks@wikiped=
ometer.net&gt;<BR>Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 4:29 PM<BR><BR>
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<TD vAlign=3Dtop>Agree with Piotrus on this one, we should absolutely settl=
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<DIV>P.S.</DIV>
<DIV>I'm getting better, less pain but still typing with one finger.</DIV>
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piokon@post.pl&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
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ubject: Re: [WPM] P.S. on Bandurist<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;folks=
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gt; <BR>&gt; Although Bandurist has strong Ukrainian nationalistic views, I=
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at you mean.&nbsp; <BR>&gt; He was good in keeping certain Soviet trolls at=
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d prefer to avoid showing off Polish-Ukrainian conflict in public, to <BR>a=
void weakening us against other editors.<BR><BR>What I'd suggest is that th=
e evidence against Bandurist is presented <BR>here, and discussed, and that=
 our Ukrainian members try to rein him in.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Piotr Konieczny<BR=
><BR>"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
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