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Sigh...UPA never engaged in genocide of Poles. It simply wanted them
out of Ukrainian territories. The Poles formed a very small minority
in Volhyn, smaller then Germans in Pozna=F1 before 1918 actually. They
were treating the local population with arrogance and exploited the
Ukrainian peasents. This resulted in the massacres in Volhyn. Contrary
to Polish myth spreaded by the so-called "Kresowiacy"(mostly people
who had once priviliaged position in the Kresy compared to Ukrainians)
there never was a peacefull co-existance with Ukrainian poeople there
and Poles were foreign element to the locals, that they viewed with
hostility due to opressive.
My Great-grandfather served with =AFeligowski in order to conquer
Lithuanian territories, so I must say I am of Kresowiacy blood as
well, but I am able to see the things objectively. Those were not
Polish territories, neither they were of any value to Poland, and led
to needless wast of resources, wars and bad blood between us and
people in the East.

2009/7/31 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>:
> "I know it hurts having to accept the responsibility for a genocide - as a
> nation - but it is a necessary ingredient in the process of future
> reconciliation between the two peoples"
>
> This is a very accurate comment, I am yet to see honest Ukrainians who wi=
ll
> clearly and without excuses say that what happened in Volhynia was a mass
> murder of innocent civilians. Right now, all I see is trying to blame the
> victims, trying to whitewash the murderers by writing that a Ukrainian st=
ore
> was burned 5 years earlier. And this is also the stance of current Ukrain=
ian
> government, the same govt that was supported by the Poles during the Oran=
ge
> Revolution.
>
> OUN/UIA were the worst kind of murderers, because they never hesitated to
> kill anyone that opposed them. They did not only kill Poles, but also
> thousands of Ukrainians who did not want to be with them. It was evil of
> pure sort, and the Ukraine they proposed would be a nightmare for
> Ukrainians, sort of Stalinist Nationalist country. An army of 20,000, whi=
ch
> murdered five times as many civilians.
>
> Tymek
>
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