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In a message dated 9/7/2009 2:32:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
basiaipiotr@yahoo.com writes:

Peters, I know about it all. I talk about such idiots as user Paul  
Siebert, who has a Doctor of Philosophy degree, and who has published  
peer-reviewed articles in academic journals in case somebody wanted to  know. Look here, 
this is what he answered to me:
 
_http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paul_Siebert&diff=prev&
oldid=296381035_ 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paul_Siebert&diff=prev&oldid=296381035)  
 
Looks like you one can have all the formal education degrees, and  still be 
a bird brain.
 
Tymek






As we can see...
 
"ii) there were neither cooperation nor even coordination between Germany  
and the USSR during the most crucial period of the invasion; "
 
Of course, categorically incorrect, given the radio transmissions et al.  
(I'll need to go back to the article and that passage....)
 
The issue is academics who approach history with their personal POV. I  do 
that too, but the difference is I am willing to admit I don't know 
everything  and to change my POV based on facts. Siebert represents a whole class of  
academics--whether intentional or unwitting Soviet apologists--who go "LA 
LA LA  LA LA" very loudly when hearing anything contradicting them--or to 
become  antagonistic in the defense of their position.
 
Mark Tauger (professor at University of West Virginia) comes to mind  
regarding the Holodomor. You should read some of his rants where he goes off on  
people who disagree with him.
 
West Virginia, the state where they shave tops off of mountains and build  
airports so that if you miss the runway you die... sorry, couldn't resist... 
 terrain map of Yeager Airport, Charleston, West Virginia...
_http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=yeager+airport,
+charleston,+west+virginia&sll=38.373828,-81.591082&sspn=0.048919,0.048494&i
e=UTF8&ll=38.3708,-81.596231&spn=0.048921,0.048494&t=p&z=14_ 
(http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=yeager+airport,+charleston,+we
st+virginia&sll=38.373828,-81.591082&sspn=0.048919,0.048494&ie=UTF8&ll=38.37
08,-81.596231&spn=0.048921,0.048494&t=p&z=14) 
 
/Peters

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