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On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 00:21, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote:

> Crime culture... yes, from the top to the bottom.


Perhaps interesting: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pedro_prison>

> There are also huge mentality shifts. I was really surprised meeting here a
> SKINHEAD POSTDOC from Russia (naturally, with a shaven head) who said he
> would kill himself a person or two, but he needs some additional training to
> do this well (he worked a lot to improve his physical conditions). He did
> not hide his intention to learn a couple of useful bacteriology techniques
> in the US to use them for the military might of his Fatherland. Otherwise,
> he was a very nice and sincere person (strange, is not it?).  He returned
> back


Well, I might postulate a fundamentalist Russian religion, with a motto
something like "There's no Motherland but Motherland, and Putin is her
prophet".  This could fit both a desire to follow a strange "patriotic"
morality, and sincerity in personal affairs: fundies of common religions are
generally nice people except they take really weird stances in a few
selected subjects such as Creationism, homosexuality, or the virtue of
suicide in a public place.

Unfortunately, aside from the Nashi evangelism camps and Putin's icon shops,
I so far do not have enough evidence to conclusively decide that a
religion-building is what's going on. It might be easier if we didn't have
an alternative explanation of a common KGB-style public relations campaign.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 00:21, Andrei Dombay <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Crime culture... yes, from the top to the bottom.</blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>Perhaps interesting: &lt;<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San=
_Pedro_prison">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pedro_prison</a>&gt;</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">There are also huge mentality shifts. I was=
 really surprised meeting here a SKINHEAD POSTDOC  from Russia (naturally, =
with a shaven head) who said he would kill himself a person or two, but he =
needs some additional training to do this well (he worked a lot to improve =
his physical conditions). He did not hide his intention to learn a couple o=
f useful bacteriology techniques in the US to use them for the military mig=
ht of his Fatherland. Otherwise, he was a very nice and sincere person (str=
ange, is not it?).=C2=A0 He returned back</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Well, I might postulate a fundamentalist Russian religi=
on, with a motto something like &quot;There&#39;s no Motherland but Motherl=
and, and Putin is her prophet&quot;. =C2=A0This could fit both a desire to =
follow a strange &quot;patriotic&quot; morality, and sincerity in personal =
affairs: fundies of common religions are generally nice people except they =
take really weird stances in a few selected subjects such as Creationism, h=
omosexuality, or the virtue of suicide in a public place.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, aside from the Nashi evangelism camps an=
d Putin&#39;s icon shops, I so far do not have enough evidence to conclusiv=
ely decide that a religion-building is what&#39;s going on. It might be eas=
ier if we didn&#39;t have an alternative explanation of a common KGB-style =
public relations campaign.</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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