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In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:45:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
martint20@gmail.com writes:

What are  the odds they will find evidence in the Soviet archives
pinning the blame  on Poland for the M-R pact....



History serves politics and even those reporting to Stalin inevitably spun  
what they said to stay alive (there was a real sea-change in Moscow in the  
30's).
 
There are all sorts of tidbits that can come out of this...
    *   with regard to the Baltics, they had already been given up, the 
notion of  British and French refusal to negotiate on that point is false -- 
this would  be true, the British gave the Baltics up so that the security 
talks with the  Soviets could continue 
    *   with regard to the M-R pact, it was a German initiative to head off 
a  British-French-Soviet pact; Ribbentrop's telegram to Moscow started the 
ball  rolling -- this would be true
That said, it will be interesting to see how this is handled, as there had  
been no true impediments to the British-French-Soviet pact being signed. 
Those  negotiations stalled only hours before the M-R pact was announced, so 
while  Stalin was not the initiator, it does appear he played both sides.
 
Of course, just about anything could have been reported from the  
French-British talks or German talks whether true or sycophantish in  nature.
 
 
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<DIV>In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:45:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
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<DIV>History serves politics and even those reporting to Stalin inevitably=
 spun 
what they said to stay alive (there was a real sea-change in Moscow in the=
 
30's).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>There are all sorts of tidbits that can come out of this...</DIV>
<UL>
  <LI>with regard to the Baltics, they had already been given up, the noti=
on of 
  British and French refusal to negotiate on that point is false -- this=
 would 
  be true, the British gave the Baltics up so that the security talks with=
 the 
  Soviets could continue</LI>
  <LI>with regard to the M-R pact, it was a German initiative to head off=
 a 
  British-French-Soviet pact; Ribbentrop's telegram to Moscow started the=
 ball 
  rolling -- this would be true</LI></UL>
<DIV>That said, it will be interesting to see how this is handled, as ther=
e had 
been no true impediments to the British-French-Soviet pact being signed.=
 Those 
negotiations stalled only hours before the M-R pact was announced, so whil=
e 
Stalin was not the initiator, it does appear he played both sides.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Of course, just about anything could have been reported from the 
French-British talks or German talks whether true or sycophantish in 
nature.</DIV>
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