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I think the PNL is actually reviving under the new leadership of Crin Anton=
escu. Remember, Tariceanu was very unpopular. They're still consolidating t=
heir base. But I don't see them dying off like the PNTCD.
I broadly agree with what Dorin said about Transylvania, but allow me to fi=
ll  in some details.

1. This map is quite informative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hungari=
ans_Romania2.svg . Hungarians are concentrated in almost all of Harghita an=
d Covasna counties, and=C2=A0in half of Mures County. After all, the capita=
l of the Szekely region, Targu Mures, is there. But the very north of Hargh=
ita (including Toplita, birthplace of the first Romanian Orthodox Patriarch=
, Miron Cristea) and the very south of Covasna (around Intorsura Buzaului) =
are Romanian. Moreover, they have a rather strong presence right along the =
border - Satu Mare (35.2%) and part of Bihor (26%), and also into Salaj (23=
%) (their party came first in all three counties the other day, since the R=
omanian vote was split). Interestingly, in the 1920s and '30s, the Romanian=
 government was quite friendly to the Szekely since it considered them form=
er Romanians (rom=C3=A2ni secuiza=C5=A3i) and tried to get them to "return"=
 to their Romanian roots (there was a grain of truth in this idea), but the
 borderland Hungarians were viewed as much more of a security threat. Even =
today, Carei is 54.3% Hungarian, Salonta 57.2%, Marghita 43.2%. Remember to=
o that this was not actually Transylvania, but always part of Hungary (Part=
ium).
On the other hand, they are indeed very scarce in Caras Severin (2% - actua=
lly there are more Germans there than Hungarians), Hunedoara (5.6%), Alba (=
6%) and so on.

2. It may be that=C2=A0T=C5=91k=C3=A9s wants Transylvania to be part of Hun=
gary. However:
a.) Transylvania is 19.6% Hungarian. There are=C2=A05,739,611 Romanians in =
Transylvania. Do you think Hungary (population 10 million) will be able to =
absorb 5.7 million hostile Romanians? Even if 1-2 million leave, it's still=
 doubtful. Even if Vienna Diktat borders are kept (http://en.wikipedia.org/=
wiki/File:Northern_Transylvania_yellow.png), Romanians still have a majorit=
y in that area and would be very hard to control.
The fact is that the ethnic geography of Transylvania has irrevocably chang=
ed in Romanians' favour. Consider some of the data I included at the end of=
 this message. With the exception of Sibiu (which was largely German and is=
 now solidly Romanian) and a few other cities, all major Transylvanian citi=
es are given here, and we see the same pattern: a move from a tiny or at le=
ast small Romanian minority to a solid majority. The exceptions are Oradea =
and Satu Mare, where Romanian majorities are more tenuous, Targu Mures, whi=
ch is almost evenly split, and Miercurea Ciuc, in the middle of the Szekely=
 land (but still almost a fifth Romanian).=C2=A0
Consider also that when intermarriage happens, children tend to grow up Rom=
anian. Example: Ludovic Orban (same last name as ex-Hungarian PM Viktor Orb=
an): Hungarian father, Romanian mother, grew up in Brasov, lives in Buchare=
st, barely speaks Hungarian, belongs to a Romanian party. And that Hungaria=
ns have even lower birth rates (and higher suicide rates) than Romanians. T=
hey're not quite dying out, but their days of dominance are over, outside t=
hose two and a half counties.
Maybe they felt foreign in 1920, 1935 or even 1960, but today, Cluj, Brasov=
, Timisoara and so forth are ordinary Romanian cities, as much so as Iasi o=
r Constanta (which itself went from being 5.4% Romanian in 1853 to 92.2% in=
 2002). It's hard to imagine them changing sovereignty.
b.) Some Romanians fear a repeat of what happened to Yugoslavia in 1999. Ho=
wever:*NATO will not bomb another NATO member*The EU won't impose sanctions=
; Romania would veto or if not, then Slovakia, which is 9.5% Hungarian, has=
 them concentrated on its southern border, and has terrible relations with =
Hungary*Kosovo was 92% Albanian and Milosevic was a dictator, so the situat=
ion is rather different
Also, Romania and Hungary signed a border treaty in 1996 - even when the Hu=
ngarian right comes back to power, I don't see them abrogating it. And EU m=
embers are not allowed to have territorial claims on each other.
3. For twenty years and especially in the last five, Szekely have indeed be=
en agitating for autonomy. However:
*The Constitution seems to forbid this and no one but they support it*Roman=
ians in the Szekely land (of which there are some) would be deprived of bas=
ic rights - indeed this is already happening, so again, no wide support*The=
re are some radical Szekely, but I don't see them becoming guerrillas; they=
're more civilised than the Albanians*The worst they probably can do is sho=
ut in Strasbourg
Also, let's not forget that Hungarians themselves are rather divided among =
Szekely and non-Szekely, and among Catholics and Calvinists. Sometimes they=
're united, but sometimes not - radical Szekely even have their own party.
Timisoara1880: 13.6% Romanian, 20.5% Hungarian, 53.6% German, 12.3% other19=
10:=C2=A010.4% Romanian, 39.3% Hungarian, 43.6% German, 6.7% other1930: 26.=
3% Romanian, 35.5% Hungarian, 33.5% German, 4.7% other2002: 85.5% Romanian,=
 7.6% Hungarian, 2.3% German, 5.6% other
Cluj1880: 13.3% Romanian, 78.5% Hungarian, 4.9% German, 3.3% other1910:=C2=
=A014.2% Romanian, 81.6% Hungarian, 2.7% German, 1.5% other1930: 35.6% Roma=
nian, 53.3% Hungarian, 2.6% German, 8.5% other2002: 79.4% Romanian, 19% Hun=
garian, 0% German, 1.6% other
Brasov1880:=C2=A031.7% Romanian, 33.2% Hungarian, 33.5% German, 3.3% other1=
910: 28.7% Romanian, 43.2% Hungarian, 26.4% German, 1.5% other1930: 32.7% R=
omanian, 42.2% Hungarian, 22.4% German, 8.5% other2002: 90.7% Romanian, 8.1=
% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.2% other
Oradea1880: 6.2% Romanian, 87.4% Hungarian, 3.6% German, 2.8% other1910: 5.=
5% Romanian, 91.3% Hungarian, 2.1% German, 1.1% other1930: 24.5% Romanian, =
67.8% Hungarian, 1.3% German, 6.4% other2002: 70.3% Romanian, 27.6% Hungari=
an, 0% German, 2.1% other
Arad1880: 21.3% Romanian, 47.7% Hungarian, 24.3% German, 6.7% other1910:=C2=
=A019.1% Romanian, 63.4% Hungarian, 14.2% German, 3.3% other1930: 36.2% Rom=
anian, 48.6% Hungarian, 12.8% German, 2.4% other2002: 82.7% Romanian, 13% H=
ungarian, 1.3% German, 3% other
Targu Mures1880: 5.2% Romanian, 88.2% Hungarian, 4.1% German, 2.5% other191=
0: 6.7% Romanian, 89.3% Hungarian, 2.4% German, 1.6% other1930: 24.6% Roman=
ian, 65.8% Hungarian, 1.9% German, 7.7% other2002: 50.3% Romanian, 46.7% Hu=
ngarian, 0% German, 3% other
Baia Mare1880: 40.7% Romanian, 56.0% Hungarian, 2.0% German, 1.3% other1910=
: 33.7% Romanian, 64.8% Hungarian, 1.2% German, 0.3% other1930: 50.8% Roman=
ian, 39.2% Hungarian, 1.8% German, 8.2% other2002: 82.8% Romanian, 14.8% Hu=
ngarian, 0% German, 2.4% other
Satu Mare1880: 5.0% Romanian, 88.8% Hungarian, 3.8% German, 2.4% other1910:=
 2.8% Romanian, 94.8% Hungarian, 1.8% German, 0.6% other1930: 27.1% Romania=
n, 58.8% Hungarian, 1.3% German, 12.8% other2002: 57.9% Romanian, 39.3% Hun=
garian, 1.4% German, 1.4% other
Zalau1880: 6.0% Romanian, 92.8% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.2% other1910: 6.6% =
Romanian, 92.7% Hungarian, 0% German, 0.7% other1930: 24.7% Romanian, 71.1%=
 Hungarian, 0% German, 4.2% other2002: 80.9% Romanian, 17.5% Hungarian, 0% =
German, 1.6% other
Miercurea Ciuc
1880: 0.3% Romanian, 97.9% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.8% other1910: 0.6% Roman=
ian, 97.8% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.6% other1930: 7.9% Romanian, 89.0% Hunga=
rian, 0% German, 3.1% other2002:=C2=A017.3% Romanian, 81.8% Hungarian, 0% G=
erman, 0.9% other
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><div><div>I think the PNL is actually revivin=
g under the new leadership of Crin Antonescu. Remember, Tariceanu was very =
unpopular. They're still consolidating their base. But I don't see them dyi=
ng off like the PNTCD.</div><div><br></div></div>I broadly agree with what =
Dorin said about Transylvania, but allow me to fill  in some details.<br><b=
r>1. This map is quite informative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hunga=
rians_Romania2.svg . Hungarians are concentrated in almost all of Harghita =
and Covasna counties, <span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-style:=
 italic;">and</span>=C2=A0in half of Mures County. After all, the capital o=
f the Szekely region, Targu Mures, is there. But the very north of Harghita=
 (including Toplita, birthplace of the first Romanian Orthodox Patriarch, M=
iron Cristea) and the very south of Covasna (around Intorsura Buzaului) are=
 Romanian.
 Moreover, they have a rather strong presence right along the border - Satu=
 Mare (35.2%) and part of Bihor (26%), and also into Salaj (23%) (their par=
ty came first in all three counties the other day, since the Romanian vote =
was split). Interestingly, in the 1920s and '30s, the Romanian government w=
as quite friendly to the Szekely since it considered them former Romanians =
(<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-style: italic;">rom=C3=A2ni=
 secuiza=C5=A3i</span>) and tried to get them to "return" to their Romanian=
 roots (there was a grain of truth in this idea), but the borderland Hungar=
ians were viewed as much more of a security threat. Even today, Carei is 54=
.3% Hungarian, Salonta 57.2%, Marghita 43.2%. Remember too that this was no=
t actually Transylvania, but always part of Hungary (Partium).<div><br></di=
v><div>On the other hand, they are indeed very scarce in Caras Severin (2% =
- actually there are more Germans there than Hungarians), Hunedoara (5.6%),=
 Alba
 (6%) and so on.<br><br>2. It may be that=C2=A0<span class=3D"Apple-style-s=
pan" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">T=C5=91k=C3=A9s wants Transylvania to be=
 part of Hungary. However:</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span=
" style=3D"line-height: 15px;"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-s=
tyle-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;">a.) Transylvania is 19.6% Hungarian=
. There are=C2=A05,739,611 Romanians in Transylvania. Do you think Hungary =
(population 10 million) will be able to absorb 5.7 million hostile Romanian=
s? Even if 1-2 million leave, it's still doubtful. Even if Vienna Diktat bo=
rders are kept (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Northern_Transylvania_yel=
low.png), Romanians still have a majority in that area and would be very ha=
rd to control.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"l=
ine-height: 15px;"><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" s=
tyle=3D"line-height: 15px;">The fact is that the ethnic geography of Transy=
lvania has irrevocably
 changed in Romanians' favour. Consider some of the data I included at the =
end of this message. With the exception of Sibiu (which was largely German =
and is now solidly Romanian) and a few other cities, all major Transylvania=
n cities are given here, and we see the same pattern: a move from a tiny or=
 at least small Romanian minority to a solid majority. The exceptions are O=
radea and Satu Mare, where Romanian majorities are more tenuous, Targu Mure=
s, which is almost evenly split, and Miercurea Ciuc, in the middle of the S=
zekely land (but still almost a fifth Romanian).=C2=A0</span></div><div><br=
></div><div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15p=
x;">Consider also that when intermarriage happens, children tend to grow up=
 Romanian. Example: Ludovic Orban (same last name as ex-Hungarian PM Viktor=
 Orban): Hungarian father, Romanian mother, grew up in Brasov, lives in Buc=
harest, barely speaks Hungarian, belongs to a Romanian party. And that
 Hungarians have even lower birth rates (and higher suicide rates) than Rom=
anians. They're not quite dying out, but their days of dominance are over, =
outside those two and a half counties.</span></div><div><br></div><div><spa=
n class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;">Maybe they felt f=
oreign in 1920, 1935 or even 1960, but today, Cluj, Brasov, Timisoara and s=
o forth are ordinary Romanian cities, as much so as Iasi or Constanta (whic=
h itself went from being 5.4% Romanian in 1853 to 92.2% in 2002). It's hard=
 to imagine them changing sovereignty.</span></div><div><span class=3D"Appl=
e-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;"><br></span></div><div><span clas=
s=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;">b.) Some Romanians fear=
 a repeat of what happened to Yugoslavia in 1999. However:</span></div><div=
><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;">*NATO will n=
ot bomb another NATO member</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-spa=
n"
 style=3D"line-height: 15px;">*The EU won't impose sanctions; Romania would=
 veto or if not, then Slovakia, which is 9.5% Hungarian, has them concentra=
ted on its southern border, and has terrible relations with Hungary</span><=
/div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;">*Ko=
sovo was 92% Albanian and Milosevic was a dictator, so the situation is rat=
her different</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"li=
ne-height: 15px;"><br></span></div></div><div>Also, Romania and Hungary sig=
ned a border treaty in 1996 - even when the Hungarian right comes back to p=
ower, I don't see them abrogating it. And EU members are not allowed to hav=
e territorial claims on each other.</div><div><br></div><div>3. For twenty =
years and especially in the last five, Szekely have indeed been agitating f=
or autonomy. However:</div><div><br></div><div>*The Constitution seems to f=
orbid this and no one but they support it</div><div>*Romanians in the Szeke=
ly
 land (of which there are some) would be deprived of basic rights - indeed =
this is already happening, so again, no wide support</div><div>*There are s=
ome radical Szekely, but I don't see them becoming guerrillas; they're more=
 civilised than the Albanians</div><div>*The worst they probably can do is =
shout in Strasbourg</div><div><br></div><div>Also, let's not forget that Hu=
ngarians themselves are rather divided among Szekely and non-Szekely, and a=
mong Catholics and Calvinists. Sometimes they're united, but sometimes not =
- radical Szekely even have their own party.</div><div><br></div><div><div>=
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Timisoara</s=
pan></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;=
 ">1880: 13.6% Romanian, 20.5% Hungarian, 53.6% German, 12.3% other</span><=
/div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">19=
10:=C2=A010.4% Romanian, 39.3% Hungarian, 43.6% German, 6.7%
 other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-heig=
ht: 15px; ">1930: 26.3% Romanian, 35.5% Hungarian, 33.5% German, 4.7% other=
</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15=
px; ">2002: 85.5% Romanian, 7.6% Hungarian, 2.3% German, 5.6% other</span><=
/div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><b=
r></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: =
15px; ">Cluj</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"lin=
e-height: 15px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: no=
rmal; "><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "=
>1880: 13.3% Romanian, 78.5% Hungarian, 4.9% German, 3.3% other</span></div=
><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1910:=
=C2=A014.2% Romanian, 81.6% Hungarian, 2.7% German, 1.5% other</span></div>=
<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1930: 3=
5.6% Romanian, 53.3% Hungarian,
 2.6% German, 8.5% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">2002: 79.4% Romanian, 19% Hungarian, 0% Germa=
n, 1.6% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"li=
ne-height: 15px; "><br></span></div></span></span></div><div><span class=3D=
"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Brasov</span></div><div><s=
pan class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><span class=3D=
"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: normal; "><div><span class=3D"Appl=
e-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1880:=C2=A031.7% Romanian, 33.2=
% Hungarian, 33.5% German, 3.3% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple=
-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1910: 28.7% Romanian, 43.2% Hung=
arian, 26.4% German, 1.5% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style=
-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1930: 32.7% Romanian, 42.2% Hungarian,=
 22.4% German, 8.5% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
 style=3D"line-height: 15px;
 ">2002: 90.7% Romanian, 8.1% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.2% other</span></div>=
</span></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-hei=
ght: 15px; "><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=
=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Oradea</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style=
-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=
=3D"line-height: normal; "><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"l=
ine-height: 15px; ">1880: 6.2% Romanian, 87.4% Hungarian, 3.6% German, 2.8%=
 other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-heig=
ht: 15px; ">1910: 5.5% Romanian, 91.3% Hungarian, 2.1% German, 1.1% other</=
span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px=
; ">1930: 24.5% Romanian, 67.8% Hungarian, 1.3% German, 6.4% other</span></=
div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">200=
2: 70.3% Romanian, 27.6% Hungarian, 0% German, 2.1% other</span></div></spa=
n></span></div><div><span
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><br></span></div>=
<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Arad</s=
pan></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;=
 "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: normal; "><div><s=
pan class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1880: 21.3% Ro=
manian, 47.7% Hungarian, 24.3% German, 6.7% other</span></div><div><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1910:=C2=A019.1% Rom=
anian, 63.4% Hungarian, 14.2% German, 3.3% other</span></div><div><span cla=
ss=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1930: 36.2% Romanian,=
 48.6% Hungarian, 12.8% German, 2.4% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">2002: 82.7% Romanian, 13% H=
ungarian, 1.3% German, 3% other</span></div></span></span></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><br></span></div><=
div><span
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Targu Mures</span=
></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">=
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: normal; "><div><span=
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1880: 5.2% Romani=
an, 88.2% Hungarian, 4.1% German, 2.5% other</span></div><div><span class=
=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1910: 6.7% Romanian, 89=
.3% Hungarian, 2.4% German, 1.6% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Appl=
e-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1930: 24.6% Romanian, 65.8% Hun=
garian, 1.9% German, 7.7% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style=
-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">2002: 50.3% Romanian, 46.7% Hungarian,=
 0% German, 3% other</span></div></span></span></div><div><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><br></span></div><div><span c=
lass=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Baia Mare</span></d=
iv><div><span
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><span class=3D"Ap=
ple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: normal; "><div><span class=3D"Apple-s=
tyle-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1880: 40.7% Romanian, 56.0% Hungar=
ian, 2.0% German, 1.3% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-sp=
an" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1910: 33.7% Romanian, 64.8% Hungarian, 1.=
2% German, 0.3% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1930: 50.8% Romanian, 39.2% Hungarian, 1.8% Germ=
an, 8.2% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"l=
ine-height: 15px; ">2002: 82.8% Romanian, 14.8% Hungarian, 0% German, 2.4% =
other</span></div></span></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
 style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><br></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-s=
tyle-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Satu Mare</span></div><div><span c=
lass=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><span class=3D"Appl=
e-style-span"
 style=3D"line-height: normal; "><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" styl=
e=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1880: 5.0% Romanian, 88.8% Hungarian, 3.8% German=
, 2.4% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"lin=
e-height: 15px; ">1910: 2.8% Romanian, 94.8% Hungarian, 1.8% German, 0.6% o=
ther</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height=
: 15px; ">1930: 27.1% Romanian, 58.8% Hungarian, 1.3% German, 12.8% other</=
span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px=
; ">2002: 57.9% Romanian, 39.3% Hungarian, 1.4% German, 1.4% other</span></=
div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><br=
></span></div></span></span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Zalau</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-styl=
e-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" styl=
e=3D"line-height: normal; "><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"=
line-height: 15px; ">1880: 6.0%
 Romanian, 92.8% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.2% other</span></div><div><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1910: 6.6% Romanian,=
 92.7% Hungarian, 0% German, 0.7% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"App=
le-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1930: 24.7% Romanian, 71.1% Hu=
ngarian, 0% German, 4.2% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-=
span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">2002: 80.9% Romanian, 17.5% Hungarian, =
0% German, 1.6% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" sty=
le=3D"line-height: 15px; "><br></span></div></span></span></div><div><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">Miercurea Ciuc<br>=
</span><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">=
1880: 0.3% Romanian, 97.9% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.8% other</span></div><di=
v><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1910: 0.6%=
 Romanian, 97.8% Hungarian, 0% German, 1.6% other</span></div><div><span
 class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">1930: 7.9% Romani=
an, 89.0% Hungarian, 0% German, 3.1% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"=
Apple-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px; ">2002:=C2=A017.3% Romanian, =
81.8% Hungarian, 0% German, 0.9% other</span></div><div><span class=3D"Appl=
e-style-span" style=3D"line-height: 15px;"><br></span></div></div></div></t=
d></tr></table><br>=0A=0A      
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