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	written by professional historians. I have yet to see a scholary work
	that I used that was propaganda. Just because something was written in
	PRL doesn't mean its propaganda. In fact often it is more reliable then
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All my works are based on qualified scholary sources, written by
professional historians. I have yet to see a scholary work that I used
that was propaganda. Just because something was written in PRL doesn't
mean its propaganda. In fact often it is more reliable then modern
pro-EU propaganda where every second sentence is not about history but
about "reconcillation" or other bullshit.

2009/9/1 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>:
> Oh come on Molobo. You never hesitate to use obsolete, Communist
> propaganda=A0sources in your never-ending wars with the Germans.
>
> Tymek
>
> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WPM] a thought for the near future
> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:19 PM
>
> And lastly, another Polish user-Lysy-is also opposed to your edit and
> expressed it on discussion page in particular to use of unreliable
> sources like Nortom or Polish nationalists.
>
> 2009/9/1 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>:
>> In short you made a very POV-edit based on unreliable sources coming
>> from an anti-Ukrainian organisation, and in the lead.
>> With a gross overinflation of number of Polish casualties.
>> Are you seriously surprised that such POV-ed information was removed
>> from the lead ?
>>
>> 2009/9/1 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>:
>>> Also Szczepan Siekierka is from a heavily nationalist Polish
>>> organization that seems to have a particular anti-Ukrainian bias.
>>> It isn't wise to use such sources, I suggest you take a pause in
>>> editing this article.
>>>
>>> 2009/9/1 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>:
>>>> The text edited out by Ostap doesn't seem to be quite reliable. I mean
>>>> "wydawnictwo norton" ?
>>>>
>>>> Could you use more reliable sources and less pov-ed (I mean the
>>>> ludob=F3jstwo title doesn't indicate neutrality)
>>>>
>>>> In short I think you are describing edit of Ostap too strongly. I
>>>> wouldn't support those works or information in lead either.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/9/1 Richard Tylman <poeticbent@hotmail.com>:
>>>>> Please respond in kind
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ostap R has reverted everything I=92ve done in one sweep today (-2,724
>>>>> characters)=85 no discussion, no middle ground, nothing. That, and of
>>>>> course,
>>>>> his angry edit summary.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we please attempt to have some mutual respect around here at leas=
t,
>>>>> among the members of our club if anywhere? I=92m not Ostap=92s enemy.=
 I
>>>>> always
>>>>> stay away from bad sources and acknowledge the good work of others. I
>>>>> contribute to Wikipedia only what I find to be of importance for the
>>>>> benefit
>>>>> of others.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If Ostap feels OK to work behind my back out there, than I don=92t wa=
nt
>>>>> my
>>>>> messages posted here to be read by him with the potential for being
>>>>> used
>>>>> against me. We both mix like oil and water apparently, so something h=
as
>>>>> to
>>>>> give.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard (Poeticbent) Tylman
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow the link please:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DMassacres_of_Poles_in_Vol=
hynia&curid=3D464698&diff=3D311168081&oldid=3D311161466
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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