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Only non-officially. According to the Constitution, the acting president
should present its resignation to the newly-elected Parliament. Today was
the second gathering of the Moldovan Parliament, but only the 53 MPs from
the opposition attended. The 48 communist MPs met separately at a
"Republican Gathering of Party Active", at which Voronin announced his
intention to resign.

The current situation is as follows:
July 29th - early elections, results: Communists - 48, Liberal-Democrats -
18, Liberals -15, Democrats -13, and Our Moldova Alliance - 7
August - the leaders of the 4 non-communist parties sign a document that
forms a apolitical alliance called "Alliance for European Integration", and
state the principles they want to follow while governing the country
August 14th - Constitutional Court validates the results of the elections
August 21st - the newly elected MPs get their MP ids.
Acting president Voronin sets the first session to start on August 28th.
August 28th - the oldest MP, a communist, presides over the session, and
after a few official minutes suggests to recess till September 4th.
Opposition MPs want to continue the working. Communists leave the hall. The
remaining MPs elect Mihai Ghimpu (leader of the Liberal Party) as Speaker.
Ghimpu sets the second day of session to be September 2nd. Communists
contest this election as illegal and ask the Constitutional Court to rule.
September 2nd - only 53 opposition MPs meet, and discuss a number of issues=
.
Proposals were put forward unofficially already on Spetember 1st to vote to
remove Voronin as acting president, and temporarily let the Speaker to act
as President. Hence Voronin's move to resign is a sort of response to this,
b/c there was (or still is) a threat of having two acting presidents and tw=
o
provisional governments.

Recall, that one needs 61 votes to elect the new president. The acting
president and the government have obligation under the Constitution to come
to the Parliament to put their resignations. However in practice the
communists are likely not to show up at sessions on day set by Ghimpu, and
Ghimpu is likely to set days except the onces announced by the communists.
Each side wants the other side to cede. The Constitutional Court has neithe=
r
ruled nor said anything in regard to this.

The Communists have announced about 1-2 weeks ago that they do not recogniz=
e
the Alliance, and want to have separate discussions with each party. The
parties forming the alliance want to discuss with communists once as a
group.

Should there be two votes for a proposal for president and both fail, new
elections must be called. But they can only take place in January, because
each year only one early election can be called.

As of now, there is the current Greceanii government, formed by the
communists. Communists said they want a center-left alliance to rule the
country during the crisis, and see this as the only way to avoid early
elections.

Hopefully there won't be two acting presidents, two provisional governments
and two early  election dates come January.

In the other context, 31st August was the 20th anniversary of the day when
Romanian became official language in the then Moldavian SSR. This is an
official holiday ("Limba Noastra", Our Language). 31st August 1989 was a
Thusday. On Sunday, August 27th 1989, the largest demonstration ever in
Moldova took part (some sources say 600,000 people took part). You can see
some footage in the following link:

http://www.jurnaltv.md/#10012&20090824&10015&10168

It is very long (1 hour), and is not edited to modern day PR blueprints, bu=
t
is a typical 1989 type of editing in the spirit of the romantic nationalism
of the national revival of the time. You can scroll through. If you look
carefully, you would notice the Lenin monument still dominating at the time
the central square in Chi=BAin=E3u, posters denouncing Molotov-Ribbentrop P=
act,
as well as flags of several other countries at the time dominated by the
Soviets: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Georgia. Unfortunately the
movie is in Romanian, only with occasional portions in Russians. If you are
interested to see visually the atmosphere at the time, you can scroll 5
minutes through it.

Dorin


2009/9/2 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>

> Radio Free Europe is reporting on "unconfirmed reports" that
> Vladimir Voronin has resigned his post as President of Moldova: <
> http://www.rferl.org/content/Acting_Moldovan_President_Voronin_Reportedly=
_Resigns/1812942.html
> >
> For unconfirmed, the reports are already well covered in world press.  RF=
E
> cites Reuters as its source and states that Reuters' sources are ITAR-TAS=
S
> and Interfax.
>
> Xinhua News, China's state-run news agency that has the important advanta=
ge
> of being east of most of the news events of the world, reports on the
> resignation without expressing any doubts or unconfirmed status: <
> http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-08/26/content_11949767.htm>  As yo=
u
> can see, this news item is several days old already; RFE's news is from
> today.
>
> --
> Andres Soolo
>
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<div>Only non-officially. According to the Constitution, the acting preside=
nt should present its resignation to the newly-elected Parliament. Today wa=
s the second gathering of the Moldovan Parliament, but only the 53 MPs from=
 the opposition attended. The 48 communist MPs met separately at a &quot;Re=
publican Gathering of Party Active&quot;, at which Voronin announced his in=
tention to resign.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The current situation is as follows:</div><div>July 29t=
h - early elections, results: Communists - 48, Liberal-Democrats - 18, Libe=
rals -15, Democrats -13, and Our Moldova Alliance - 7</div><div>August - th=
e leaders of the 4 non-communist parties sign a document that forms a apoli=
tical alliance called &quot;Alliance for European Integration&quot;, and st=
ate the principles they want to follow while governing the country</div>
<div>August 14th - Constitutional Court validates the results of the electi=
ons</div><div>August 21st - the newly elected MPs get their MP ids.=A0</div=
><div>Acting president Voronin sets the first session to start on August 28=
th.</div>
<div>August 28th - the oldest MP, a communist, presides over the session, a=
nd after a few official minutes suggests to recess till September 4th. Oppo=
sition MPs want to continue the working. Communists leave the hall. The rem=
aining MPs elect Mihai Ghimpu (leader of the Liberal Party) as Speaker. Ghi=
mpu sets the second day of session to be September 2nd. Communists contest =
this election as illegal and ask the Constitutional Court to rule.</div>
<div>September 2nd - only 53 opposition MPs meet, and discuss a number of i=
ssues. Proposals were put forward unofficially already on Spetember 1st to =
vote to remove Voronin as acting president, and temporarily let the Speaker=
 to act as President. Hence Voronin&#39;s move to resign is a sort of respo=
nse to this, b/c there was (or still is) a threat of having two acting pres=
idents and two provisional governments.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Recall, that one needs 61 votes to elect the new presid=
ent. The acting president and the government have obligation under the Cons=
titution to come to the Parliament to put their resignations. However in pr=
actice the communists are likely not to show up at sessions on day set by G=
himpu, and Ghimpu is likely to set days except the onces announced by the c=
ommunists. Each side wants the other side to cede. The Constitutional Court=
 has neither ruled nor said anything in regard to this.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The Communists have announced about 1-2 weeks ago that =
they do not recognize the Alliance, and want to have separate discussions w=
ith each party. The parties forming the alliance want to discuss with commu=
nists once as a group.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Should there be two votes for a proposal for president =
and both fail, new elections must be called. But they can only take place i=
n January, because each year only one early election can be called.=A0</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>As of now, there is the current Greceanii government, f=
ormed by the communists. Communists said they want a center-left alliance t=
o rule the country during the crisis, and see this as the only way to avoid=
 early elections.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hopefully there won&#39;t be two acting presidents, two=
 provisional governments and two early =A0election dates come January.=A0</=
div><div><br></div><div>In the other context, 31st August was the 20th anni=
versary of the day when Romanian became official language in the then Molda=
vian SSR. This is an official holiday (&quot;Limba Noastra&quot;, Our Langu=
age). 31st August 1989 was a Thusday. On Sunday, August 27th 1989, the larg=
est demonstration ever in Moldova took part (some sources say 600,000 peopl=
e took part). You can see some footage in the following link:</div>
<div><br></div><a href=3D"http://www.jurnaltv.md/#10012&amp;20090824&amp;10=
015&amp;10168">http://www.jurnaltv.md/#10012&amp;20090824&amp;10015&amp;101=
68</a><br><br><div>It is very long (1 hour), and is not edited to modern da=
y PR blueprints, but is a typical 1989 type of editing in the spirit of the=
 romantic nationalism of the national revival of the time. You can scroll t=
hrough. If you look carefully, you would notice the Lenin monument still do=
minating at the time the central square in Chi=BAin=E3u, posters denouncing=
 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, as well as flags of several other countries at th=
e time dominated by the Soviets: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Georg=
ia. Unfortunately the movie is in Romanian, only with occasional portions i=
n Russians. If you are interested to see visually the atmosphere at the tim=
e, you can scroll 5 minutes through it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Dorin</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">2009/9/2 Digwuren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@g=
mail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x;">
Radio Free Europe is reporting on &quot;unconfirmed reports&quot; that Vlad=
imir=A0Voronin=A0has=A0resigned=A0his=A0post=A0as=A0President=A0of=A0Moldov=
a: &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.rferl.org/content/Acting_Moldovan_President_Vo=
ronin_Reportedly_Resigns/1812942.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.rferl.o=
rg/content/Acting_Moldovan_President_Voronin_Reportedly_Resigns/1812942.htm=
l</a>&gt;<div>

<br></div><div>For unconfirmed, the reports are already well covered in wor=
ld press. =A0RFE cites Reuters as its source and states that Reuters&#39; s=
ources are ITAR-TASS and Interfax.</div><div><br></div><div>Xinhua News, Ch=
ina&#39;s state-run news agency that has the important advantage of being e=
ast of most of the news events of the world, reports on the resignation wit=
hout expressing any doubts or unconfirmed status: &lt;<a href=3D"http://new=
s.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-08/26/content_11949767.htm" target=3D"_blank">=
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-08/26/content_11949767.htm</a>&gt; =
=A0As you can see, this news item is several days old already; RFE&#39;s ne=
ws is from today.</div>

<div><div><br>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>
</div></div>
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