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	I took some time to reflect the current situation
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G'day,

I took some time to reflect the current situation - and what to do with the
pro-Soviet cabal, Russavia, PasswordUsername, Offliner, Shotlandyia and
FeelSunny. We have obviously loads of material on them - and we will have
more, as they are positively enraged.

This is what I think we should do - and please, all suggestions and
improvements are most welcome.

   - We wait until next major incident (probably will happen within a week),
   carefully avoiding *all* ethnic epitets (Russian, pro-Russian, anti-Estonian
   etc). At worst we should name them pro-Soviet or fringe views. Whether the
   incident will reach any of the AN boards remains to be seen - preferably
   not, mud sticks.
   - Soon after the incident, we will file a RfC about several of them
   (PasswordUsername, Russavia and Offliner are the best candidates, imho) -
   filing should become from someone involved, but not heavily - maybe Miacek?
   RfC should be very dry and precise, only diffs and explanations, no personal
   feelings or comments.
   - RfC will go nowhere and last for a couple of weeks. I expect it will
   end with some general useless warning, which will make them lay low for a
   little while.
   - New incidents will unevitably happen, hopefully one of the cabal
   leaders (PU) will have a major slip like today. We escalate them sligthly,
   carefully being civil and within sources, also avoiding 3RR violations. Best
   we could hope for are some major BLP violations.
   - We'll prepare an extremely thorough arbitration case in Digwuren's wiki
   - and I mean, everything the pro-Soviets have done within last year - BLP
   violations, AGF violations, insults, revert-warring, inserting unsourced and
   POV material and so forth. Someone less involved fill file it (I would like
   to suggest Piotrus, but due several ArbCom cases involving him this may not
   be wise).

And then there is nothing to do but wait and see. We can expect some
fall-off to our midst as well - probably Digwuren will be hit by another
ban, I might face the ban-hammer, too. However, for the minimum, the
opposing cabal will have majority of its members banned for a long period
and rest admonished to the point where they don't dare to touch anything
Baltics-related.

Sander

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G&#39;day,<br><br>I took some time to reflect the current situation - and w=
hat to do with the pro-Soviet cabal, Russavia, PasswordUsername, Offliner, =
Shotlandyia and FeelSunny. We have obviously loads of material on them - an=
d we will have more, as they are positively enraged.<br>
<br>This is what I think we should do - and please, all suggestions and imp=
rovements are most welcome.<br><ul><li>We wait until next major incident (p=
robably will happen within a week), carefully avoiding *all* ethnic epitets=
 (Russian, pro-Russian, anti-Estonian etc). At worst we should name them pr=
o-Soviet or fringe views. Whether the incident will reach any of the AN boa=
rds remains to be seen - preferably not, mud sticks.<br>
</li><li>Soon after the incident, we will file a RfC about several of them =
(PasswordUsername, Russavia and Offliner are the best candidates, imho) - f=
iling should become from someone involved, but not heavily - maybe Miacek? =
RfC should be very dry and precise, only diffs and explanations, no persona=
l feelings or comments.<br>
</li><li>RfC will go nowhere and last for a couple of weeks. I expect it wi=
ll end with some general useless warning, which will make them lay low for =
a little while.</li><li>New incidents will unevitably happen, hopefully one=
 of the cabal leaders (PU) will have a major slip like today. We escalate t=
hem sligthly, carefully being civil and within sources, also avoiding 3RR v=
iolations. Best we could hope for are some major BLP violations.</li>
<li>We&#39;ll prepare an extremely thorough arbitration case in Digwuren&#3=
9;s wiki - and I mean, everything the pro-Soviets have done within last yea=
r - BLP violations, AGF violations, insults, revert-warring, inserting unso=
urced and POV material and so forth. Someone less involved fill file it (I =
would like to suggest Piotrus, but due several ArbCom cases involving him t=
his may not be wise). <br>
</li></ul>And then there is nothing to do but wait and see. We can expect s=
ome fall-off to our midst as well - probably Digwuren will be hit by anothe=
r ban, I might face the ban-hammer, too. However, for the minimum, the oppo=
sing cabal will have majority of its members banned for a long period and r=
est admonished to the point where they don&#39;t dare to touch anything Bal=
tics-related.<br>
<br>Sander<br>

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