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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 23:14, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:

> I think somebody should investigate (ask on commons... maybe on IRC?)
> how one can remove ("gray") and old file. I don't think Russavia is a
> Commons admin, and nothing in his logs looks strange:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Russavia
> If the graying out is was out of protocol or illegal, that would be
> interesting :)


According to logs, Russavia didn't delete the old version, Lar did.  It's
plausible that Russavia requested it claiming it contained his personal
information, resulting in Lar doing it under the ordinary protocol regarding
primary information.  After all, Wikipedia prefers its editors anonymous.

There's another possible reason that might have triggered Russavia's
paranoia.  Remember when I googled for Mr. Bibby's name, and found a few
companies?  I'm fairly sure that others did it, too.  However, such clicking
can -- via referer logging -- pass the search keywords to the websites.  Any
savvy web marketer is likely to watch through frequent search words
regularly.

If Russavia actually works for one of these companies, then a sudden spike
of people arriving to its website by his name rather than the more usual
keywords could have looked out of place, leading him to feel being stalked,
and needing some more privacy on Wikipedia.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 23:14, Piotr Konieczny <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">I think somebody should investigate (ask on commons... ma=
ybe on IRC?)<br></div>
how one can remove (&quot;gray&quot;) and old file. I don&#39;t think Russa=
via is a<br>
Commons admin, and nothing in his logs looks strange:<br>
<a href=3D"http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSpecial:Log&amp=
;user=3DRussavia" target=3D"_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.ph=
p?title=3DSpecial:Log&amp;user=3DRussavia</a><br>
If the graying out is was out of protocol or illegal, that would be<br>
interesting :)</blockquote><div><br></div><div>According to logs, Russavia =
didn&#39;t delete the old version, Lar did. =C2=A0It&#39;s plausible that R=
ussavia requested it claiming it contained his personal information, result=
ing in Lar doing it under the ordinary protocol regarding primary informati=
on. =C2=A0After all, Wikipedia prefers its editors anonymous.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There&#39;s another possible reason that might have tri=
ggered Russavia&#39;s paranoia. =C2=A0Remember when I googled for Mr. Bibby=
&#39;s name, and found a few companies? =C2=A0I&#39;m fairly sure that othe=
rs did it, too. =C2=A0However, such clicking can -- via referer logging -- =
pass the search keywords to the websites. =C2=A0Any savvy web marketer is l=
ikely to watch through frequent search words regularly.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If Russavia actually works for one of these companies, =
then a sudden spike of people arriving to its website by his name rather th=
an the more usual keywords could have looked out of place, leading him to f=
eel being stalked, and needing some more privacy on Wikipedia.</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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