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	Content preview: Christian Suciu wrote: > 1. He did edit for 55 hours
	straight, did he not? On the AN thread, some > guy keeps saying that's
	not true. > > 2. Russavia is now losing his marbles. I wonder if we
	could help that > process along. My (somewhat cockamamie) idea is to
	recruit meatpuppets > using IP addresses and very temporary accounts.
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	him to be driven mad by unseen and unknowable > forces, sort of like the
	hero of a Shakespearean tragedy. [...] 
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	Content preview:  Christian Suciu wrote: > 1. He did edit for 55 hours
	straight, did he not? On the AN thread, some > guy keeps saying that's
	not true. > > 2. Russavia is now losing his marbles. I wonder if we
	could help that > process along. My (somewhat cockamamie) idea is to
	recruit meatpuppets > using IP addresses and very temporary accounts.
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	on the Australian > mainland (correct me if I'm wrong). Ask people from
	Melbourne or Sydney > (and thus untraceable to Tasmania) to go to
	Russavia's user page and > talk page, leaving messages like "this user
	shares an account with > banned user Mikoyan" or "this user is a paid
	agent of the Russian FSB". > Once those get protected, have the
	meatpuppet stalk Russavia onto pages > he edits, adding in little
	messages on talk pages (even in the > mainspace): "this man is a Russian
	agent"; "warning: Russavia is > actually a team of KGB propagandists
	team". We can do psychological > warfare too. > > Is this > *practical >
	*untraceable to us > *ethical > *beneficial? > > I'd certainly like for
	him to be driven mad by unseen and unknowable > forces, sort of like the
	hero of a Shakespearean tragedy. [...] 
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Christian Suciu wrote:
> 1. He did edit for 55 hours straight, did he not? On the AN thread, some 
> guy keeps saying that's not true.
> 
> 2. Russavia is now losing his marbles. I wonder if we could help that 
> process along. My (somewhat cockamamie) idea is to recruit meatpuppets 
> using IP addresses and very temporary accounts. For instance, Martin's 
> from Tasmania, but I'm assuming he has friends on the Australian 
> mainland (correct me if I'm wrong). Ask people from Melbourne or Sydney 
> (and thus untraceable to Tasmania) to go to Russavia's user page and 
> talk page, leaving messages like "this user shares an account with 
> banned user Mikoyan" or "this user is a paid agent of the Russian FSB". 
> Once those get protected, have the meatpuppet stalk Russavia onto pages 
> he edits, adding in little messages on talk pages (even in the 
> mainspace): "this man is a Russian agent"; "warning: Russavia is 
> actually a team of KGB propagandists team". We can do psychological 
> warfare too.
> 
> Is this
> *practical
> *untraceable to us
> *ethical
> *beneficial?
> 
> I'd certainly like for him to be driven mad by unseen and unknowable 
> forces, sort of like the hero of a Shakespearean tragedy.

Who fights by the sword... fight fire with fire... sure, but also "if 
you use their tactics, you become no better" :(

I don't think we need to resort to this kind of methods. Remember: we 
are the "good guys". If we really want to "stick it" to the USSR FOREVER 
cabal, I'd suggest collaborating (private Google Docs doc?) on an 
article (academic or popular, or both) about the USSR cabal, and then 
publishing it. If we could get an article on this subject published in a 
decent Western journal, this would be a great step in the right 
direction :) Plus we could cite it on Wikipedia :D

-- 
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in 
theory."

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