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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:15:12 +1000
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From: Martin <martint20@gmail.com>
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	Content preview:  That makes some sense, the article could then be
	expanded to include killings not considered genocide, while the genocide
	stuff could be a section within the article. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at
	7:05 AM, radek szulga<rsszulga@gmail.com> wrote: > On the Communist
	Genocide article, it's pretty clear what the strategy of > PU, Igny,
	Russavia and the rest is going to be here. They will insist on >
	including SYNTH, POV and every other "bad article" tag and are going to
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	re-nominate it for > deletion and the argument will be made that "look, 
	those tags are still > there, issues weren't addressed, delete it". > >
	In light of this I'm actually wondering if it wouldn't make sense to
	retreat > a bit to more defensible positions and agree with the
	proposal
	to rename > this to "Communist Mass Killings". There were several
	editors who were more > or less on our side and voted keep but wanted
	this name change. This would > also give a good reason to get rid of
	the
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	SlamDiego from editing economics articles and he's an alright > guy,
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	expanded to include killings not considered genocide, while the genocide
	stuff could be a section within the article. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at
	7:05 AM, radek szulga<rsszulga@gmail.com> wrote: > On the Communist
	Genocide article, it's pretty clear what the strategy of > PU, Igny,
	Russavia and the rest is going to be here. They will insist on >
	including SYNTH, POV and every other "bad article" tag and are going to
	> sabotage any attempts at expanding and further improving the article.
	Then, > in a few months time (if not sooner) someone's going to
	re-nominate it for > deletion and the argument will be made that "look,
	those tags are still > there, issues weren't addressed, delete it". > >
	In light of this I'm actually wondering if it wouldn't make sense to
	retreat > a bit to more defensible positions and agree with the proposal
	to rename > this to "Communist Mass Killings". There were several
	editors who were more > or less on our side and voted keep but wanted
	this name change. This would > also give a good reason to get rid of the
	SYNTH tag and bring in a lot more > sources. On the other hand, it might
	be useful to save the proposed rename > for later, or for when the
	article gets renominated for deletion. It might > also be conceding too
	much. So I haven't said yea/nay to this on talk. > > BTW, I know
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That makes some sense, the article could then be expanded to include
killings not considered genocide, while the genocide stuff could be a
section within the article.

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:05 AM, radek szulga<rsszulga@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the Communist Genocide article, it's pretty clear what the strategy of
> PU, Igny, Russavia and the rest is going to be here. They will insist on
> including SYNTH, POV and every other "bad article" tag and are going to
> sabotage any attempts at expanding and further improving the article. Then,
> in a few months time (if not sooner) someone's going to re-nominate it for
> deletion and the argument will be made that "look, those tags are still
> there, issues weren't addressed, delete it".
>
> In light of this I'm actually wondering if it wouldn't make sense to retreat
> a bit to more defensible positions and agree with the proposal to rename
> this to "Communist Mass Killings". There were several editors who were more
> or less on our side and voted keep but wanted this name change. This would
> also give a good reason to get rid of the SYNTH tag and bring in a lot more
> sources. On the other hand, it might be useful to save the proposed rename
> for later, or for when the article gets renominated for deletion. It might
> also be conceding too much. So I haven't said yea/nay to this on talk.
>
> BTW, I know SlamDiego from editing economics articles and he's an alright
> guy, though a civilian in this.
>
> Radek
>
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