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Simply common sense says, that a general article summarising all the
soviet era elections in a particular ssr makes sense and is likely to
be created, e.g. elections in moldavian ssr. What would be both highly
unlikely to happen and pointless to do is starting a separate article
for each and every sham election in a certain ssr. We don't have many
editors with, say, Asperger's syndrome and particualr dedication to
'elections' in the USSR, those red links are likely to remain red till
the end of days and just disatract reading, as do many other things
:-)

On 09/04/2009, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:
> Christian Suciu wrote:
>> As you may know, we have templates linking elections in most every
>> country. The problem is that some users (out of ignorance; this isn't
>> Team USSR's doing) have been adding in election dates for the Soviet
>> period. For instance, in Moldova, the only elections there were in 1917
>> (in the short-lived Moldavian Democratic Party) and in the independent
>> Republic of Moldova (1994, 1998, 2001, 2005 and now 2009). There was no
>> Moldovan state from 1918 to 1991, so it's illogical to speak of
>> elections there.
>>
>> Yet two users, with whom I have tried to reason, keep adding back in the
>> dozen Supreme Soviet "elections" (1940-1990, only the last of which is
>> remotely notable), despite the fact that the Moldavian SSR was an
>> entirely different entity. So
>> far, Template:Moldovan_elections, Template:Ukrainian_elections
>> and Template:Russian_elections have been affected. This is dangerous: it
>> confuses the concept of independent state with that of SSR. Also, the
>> Baltics are next, and as Peters is fond of reminding us, there was no
>> Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania from 1940 to 1990 (at least none that held
>> elections).
>>
>> So please, if you can think up a solution (either a separate line in the
>> template or a separate template altogether), I'd be most grateful.
>
> Perhaps a good compromise is to specify in election templates which
> state the elections were in. So the Moldavian SSR and others elections
> would be listed in a separate line. One could even add a note within a
> template saying that Moldavian SSR was not an independent state.
>
>
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> theory."
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