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	Content preview:  I support that. 2009/5/1 Martin <martint20@gmail.com> >
	I propose we draft an ArbCom case to get him desysoped. > > Thoughts? >
	> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote: >
	> Looks like Hiberniantears has unilaterally split [[Soviet occupation >
	> of the Baltics]] into [[Occupation of the Baltic states during World >
	> War II]] and ‎ [[Baltic states and the Soviet Union]] which he > >
	immediately page protected. Isn't this an abuse of admin powers? > > > >
	What can be done? > > > > 2009/5/1 Miacek and his crime-fighting dog
	<miacek08@googlemail.com>: > >> I hope nothing comes out of this
	''mediation.'' To argue with figures > >> like Dojarca over Baltic
	history is not possible. > >> > >> ("Боже упа�?и! �?икаких
	"чрезвычаек"!" > >> - a Russian statesman) > >> > >> (And
	great Walpurgisnacht to everyone!) > >> > >> M. > >> > >> On 30/04/2009,
	Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Now I see. This is a
	classic propaganda edit > >>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states&diff=286705086&oldid=282373873
	> >>> > >>> Digwuren, you are now in trouble. Never tell "troll" and so
	on. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Andrei
	Dombay > >>> <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote: > >>> > >>>> You do not have
	to explain why you decline mediation. Do not talk with > >>>> him, >
	>>>> do not reply. If he tries to start Arbitration, ignore it. > >>>> >
	>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com>
	wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Peters, > >>>>> > >>>>> probably a good time to
	disengage, seems Hiberniantears wants to draw > >>>>> you into
	bickering. It is a favoured tactic of admins. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >
	>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, <PetersJV@aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>
	> > >>>>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states
	> >>>>> > > >>>>> > My mother is in the hospital in physical and mental
	decline, so I > have > >>>>> not > >>>>> > appetite to be indulgent
	here. Dojarca found some patsies. > [...] 
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	Content preview:  I support that. 2009/5/1 Martin <martint20@gmail.com> >
	I propose we draft an ArbCom case to get him desysoped. > > Thoughts? >
	> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote: >
	> Looks like Hiberniantears has unilaterally split [[Soviet occupation >
	> of the Baltics]] into [[Occupation of the Baltic states during World >
	> War II]] and ‎ [[Baltic states and the Soviet Union]] which he > >
	immediately page protected. Isn't this an abuse of admin powers? > > > >
	What can be done? > > > > 2009/5/1 Miacek and his crime-fighting dog
	<miacek08@googlemail.com>: > >> I hope nothing comes out of this
	''mediation.'' To argue with figures > >> like Dojarca over Baltic
	history is not possible. > >> > >> ("Боже упа�?и! �?икаких
	"чрезвычаек"!" > >> - a Russian statesman) > >> > >> (And
	great Walpurgisnacht to everyone!) > >> > >> M. > >> > >> On 30/04/2009,
	Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Now I see. This is a
	classic propaganda edit > >>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states&diff=286705086&oldid=282373873
	> >>> > >>> Digwuren, you are now in trouble. Never tell "troll" and so
	on. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Andrei
	Dombay > >>> <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote: > >>> > >>>> You do not have
	to explain why you decline mediation. Do not talk with > >>>> him, >
	>>>> do not reply. If he tries to start Arbitration, ignore it. > >>>> >
	>>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com>
	wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Peters, > >>>>> > >>>>> probably a good time to
	disengage, seems Hiberniantears wants to draw > >>>>> you into
	bickering. It is a favoured tactic of admins. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >
	>>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, <PetersJV@aol.com> wrote: > >>>>>
	> > >>>>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states
	> >>>>> > > >>>>> > My mother is in the hospital in physical and mental
	decline, so I > have > >>>>> not > >>>>> > appetite to be indulgent
	here. Dojarca found some patsies. > [...] 
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I support that.

2009/5/1 Martin <martint20@gmail.com>

> I propose we draft an ArbCom case to get him desysoped.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looks like  Hiberniantears has unilaterally split [[Soviet occupation
> > of the Baltics]] into [[Occupation of the Baltic states during World
> > War II]] and =E2=80=8E [[Baltic states and the Soviet Union]] which he
> > immediately page protected. Isn't this an abuse of admin powers?
> >
> > What can be done?
> >
> > 2009/5/1 Miacek and his crime-fighting dog <miacek08@googlemail.com>:
> >> I hope nothing comes out of this ''mediation.'' To argue with figures
> >> like Dojarca over Baltic history is not possible.
> >>
> >> ("=D0=91=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D1=83=D0=BF=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=B8! =D0=9D=D0=
=B8=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8=D1=85 "=D1=87=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=B2=D1=8B=D1=
=87=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BA"!"
> >>  - a Russian statesman)
> >>
> >> (And great Walpurgisnacht to everyone!)
> >>
> >> M.
> >>
> >> On 30/04/2009, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Now I see. This is a classic propaganda edit
> >>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DOccupation_of_the_Baltic_stat=
es&diff=3D286705086&oldid=3D282373873
> >>>
> >>>  Digwuren, you are now in trouble. Never tell "troll" and so on.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Andrei Dombay
> >>> <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You do not have to explain why you decline mediation. Do not talk wi=
th
> >>>> him,
> >>>> do not reply. If he tries to start  Arbitration, ignore it.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Peters,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> probably a good time to disengage, seems Hiberniantears wants to dr=
aw
> >>>>> you into bickering. It is a favoured tactic of admins.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM,  <PetersJV@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Occupation_=
of_the_Baltic_states
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > My mother is in the hospital in physical and mental decline, so I
> have
> >>>>> not
> >>>>> > appetite to be indulgent here. Dojarca found some patsies.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > We have two options, become parties and not agree and let it die =
in
> >>>>> protest,
> >>>>> > we're not doing this again (post links to all the prior actions).=
..
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > or
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ... participate including adding every possible issue, such as,
> >>>>> "occupation"
> >>>>> > is "prejudicial" -- based on what?, Dojarca trolling for editors,
> etc.
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> > burry them all so deep that it makes the concrete around the
> Chernobyl
> >>>>> > reactor look like a quail's egg shell.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > It may be worthwhile trying #1, that as a community, we are not
> going
> >>>>> > to
> >>>>> let
> >>>>> > ourselves be dragged through the mud again.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I'm open to suggestions.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > /Peters
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ________________________________
> >>>>> > Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops!
> >>>>> > _______________________________________________
> >>>>> > Wikipedia statistics discussion list
> >>>>> > folks@wikipedometer.net
> >>>>> > http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
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I support that.<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/5/1 Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:martint20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">I propose we draft an ArbCom cas=
e to get him desysoped.<br><br>Thoughts?<br>
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Martin &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; =
Looks like =C2=A0Hiberniantears has unilaterally split [[Soviet occupation<=
br>&gt; of the Baltics]] into [[Occupation of the Baltic states during Worl=
d<br>
&gt; War II]] and =E2=80=8E [[Baltic states and the Soviet Union]] which he=
<br>&gt; immediately page protected. Isn&#39;t this an abuse of admin power=
s?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; What can be done?<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 2009/5/1 Miacek and hi=
s crime-fighting dog &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:miacek08@googlemail.com">miacek0=
8@googlemail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;&gt; I hope nothing comes out of this &#39;&#39;mediation.&#39;&#39; To=
 argue with figures<br>&gt;&gt; like Dojarca over Baltic history is not pos=
sible.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; (&quot;=D0=91=D0=BE=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D1=83=D0=BF=
=D0=B0=D1=81=D0=B8! =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B0=D0=BA=D0=B8=D1=85 &quot;=D1=87=
=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B7=D0=B2=D1=8B=D1=87=D0=B0=D0=B5=D0=BA&quot;!&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt; =C2=A0- a Russian statesman)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; (And great Wa=
lpurgisnacht to everyone!)<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; M.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&g=
t; On 30/04/2009, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com=
">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Now I see. This is a classic propaganda edit<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; <=
a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DOccupation_of_the_Bal=
tic_states&amp;diff=3D286705086&amp;oldid=3D282373873" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DOccupation_of_the_Baltic_states&a=
mp;diff=3D286705086&amp;oldid=3D282373873</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; =C2=A0Digwuren, you are now in trouble. Never =
tell &quot;troll&quot; and so on.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&g=
t;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Andrei Dombay<br>&=
gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; You do not have to explain why you decline=
 mediation. Do not talk with<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; him,<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; d=
o not reply. If he tries to start =C2=A0Arbitration, ignore it.<br>&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Martin &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:martint20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt=
;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Peters,<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt; probably a good time to disengage, seems Hiberniantears wants=
 to draw<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; you into bickering. It is a favoured tactic of admins.=
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br=
>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, =C2=A0&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:PetersJV@aol.com">PetersJV@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wiki=
pedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_st=
ates" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for=
_mediation/Occupation_of_the_Baltic_states</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; My mother is in the =
hospital in physical and mental decline, so I have<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =
not<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; appetite to be indulgent here. Dojarca fou=
nd some patsies.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; We have two options,=
 become parties and not agree and let it die in<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; pro=
test,<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; we&#39;re not doing this again (post lin=
ks to all the prior actions)...<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; or<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&g=
t;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; ... participate including adding e=
very possible issue, such as,<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;occupation&quot=
;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; is &quot;prejudicial&quot; -- based on what?, Doj=
arca trolling for editors, etc.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt; &gt; burry them all so deep that it makes the concrete around the =
Chernobyl<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; reactor look like a quail&#39;s egg shell.<br>&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; It may be worthwhile tr=
ying #1, that as a community, we are not going<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;=
 to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; let<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; ourselves be dragged =
through the mud again.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 &gt; I&#39;m open to suggestions.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;=
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; /Peters<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt; &gt; ________________________________<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Big =
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