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From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
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	Content preview: Agreed let's concentrate on other things were we are
	united and can help each other. This is neither the place nor time to
	solve this issue. 2009/8/2 O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca>: > > This rant from
	all sides is extremely unhelpful. I understand it is a sore wound with
	the Poles, but why do you keep scratching at it over and over again?
	Let's agree that both sides are to blame, AK was just as murderous as
	the UPA. Weighing in and comparing atrocities is leading nowhere. Is
	there a scale by which we can compare Massacres in Volhynia to
	Operation
	Vistula or Pacifikacija? Let it go. I don't see Ukrainians ranting over
	the last two. Someone else (and most know who) will benefit from it.
	Unfortunately, neither Ukrainians and Poles will. > > Hillock > > --- On
	Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: Molobo
	Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [WPM] HELP!! Radek , Piotrus,
	Tymek and others. >> To: "Wikipedia statistics"
	<folks@wikipedometer.net> >> Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:10 AM
	>> "> This is a very interesting >> observation. How about: "SS never
	engaged in >> > genocide of Poles. It simply wanted them out of German
	>> territories"." >> >> In contrast to UPA German state had a clear
	plan
	how to >> exterminate >> Polish nation. UPA plans were limited to
	removing Polish >> population >> from ethnic Ukrainian
	territories-there
	were no plans to >> exterminate >> Polish nation, To be fair, due to
	ideology of UPA the >> methods involved >> were quite brutal. >> >>
	2009/8/1 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>: >> > >> > >> > "UPA
	never
	engaged in genocide of Poles. It simply >> wanted them out of >> >
	Ukrainian territories" >> > >> > This is a very interesting
	observation.
	How >> about: "SS never engaged in >> > genocide of Poles. It simply
	wanted them out of >> German territories". >> > >> > The more I read
	your posts, the more shocked I am. >> Looks like you know more >> > than
	the general consensus of historians. Where do you >> get that info? >>
	>
	>> > BTW what do you understand by Ukrainian territories >> where Poles
	were >> > unwanted and simply removed? >> > >> > Tymek >> > >> > [...] 
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	united and can help each other. This is neither the place nor time to
	solve this issue. 2009/8/2 O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca>: > > This rant from
	all sides is extremely unhelpful. I understand it is a sore wound with
	the Poles, but why do you keep scratching at it over and over again?
	Let's agree that both sides are to blame, AK was just as murderous as
	the UPA. Weighing in and comparing atrocities is leading nowhere. Is
	there a scale by which we can compare Massacres in Volhynia to Operation
	Vistula or Pacifikacija? Let it go. I don't see Ukrainians ranting over
	the last two. Someone else (and most know who) will benefit from it.
	Unfortunately, neither Ukrainians and Poles will. > > Hillock > > --- On
	Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: Molobo
	Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [WPM] HELP!! Radek , Piotrus,
	Tymek and others. >> To: "Wikipedia statistics"
	<folks@wikipedometer.net> >> Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:10 AM
	>> "> This is a very interesting >> observation. How about: "SS never
	engaged in >> > genocide of Poles. It simply wanted them out of German
	>> territories"." >> >> In contrast to UPA German state had a clear plan
	how to >> exterminate >> Polish nation. UPA plans were limited to
	removing Polish >> population >> from ethnic Ukrainian territories-there
	were no plans to >> exterminate >> Polish nation, To be fair, due to
	ideology of UPA the >> methods involved >> were quite brutal. >> >>
	2009/8/1 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>: >> > >> > >> > "UPA never
	engaged in genocide of Poles. It simply >> wanted them out of >> >
	Ukrainian territories" >> > >> > This is a very interesting observation.
	How >> about: "SS never engaged in >> > genocide of Poles. It simply
	wanted them out of >> German territories". >> > >> > The more I read
	your posts, the more shocked I am. >> Looks like you know more >> > than
	the general consensus of historians. Where do you >> get that info? >> >
	>> > BTW what do you understand by Ukrainian territories >> where Poles
	were >> > unwanted and simply removed? >> > >> > Tymek >> > >> > [...] 
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Agreed let's concentrate on other things were we are united and can
help each other.
This is neither the place nor time to solve this issue.

2009/8/2 O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca>:
>
> This rant from all sides is extremely unhelpful. I understand it is a sor=
e wound with the Poles, but why do you keep scratching at it over and over =
again? Let's agree that both sides are to blame, AK was just as murderous a=
s the UPA. Weighing in and comparing atrocities is leading nowhere. Is ther=
e a scale by which we can compare Massacres in Volhynia to Operation Vistul=
a or Pacifikacija? Let it go. I don't see Ukrainians ranting over the last =
two. Someone else (and most know who) will benefit from it. Unfortunately, =
neither Ukrainians and Poles will.
>
> Hillock
>
> --- On Mon, 8/3/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [WPM] HELP!! Radek , Piotrus, Tymek and others.
>> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>> Received: Monday, August 3, 2009, 12:10 AM
>> "> This is a very interesting
>> observation. How about: "SS never engaged in
>> > genocide of Poles. It simply wanted them out of German
>> territories"."
>>
>> In contrast to UPA German state had a clear plan how to
>> exterminate
>> Polish nation. UPA plans were limited to removing Polish
>> population
>> from ethnic Ukrainian territories-there were no plans to
>> exterminate
>> Polish nation, To be fair, due to ideology of UPA the
>> methods involved
>> were quite brutal.
>>
>> 2009/8/1 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> > "UPA never engaged in genocide of Poles. It simply
>> wanted them=A0out of
>> > Ukrainian territories"
>> >
>> > This is a very interesting observation.=A0How
>> about:=A0"SS never engaged in
>> > genocide of Poles. It simply wanted them=A0out of
>> German territories".
>> >
>> > The more I read your posts, the more shocked I am.
>> Looks like you know more
>> > than the general consensus of historians. Where do you
>> get that info?
>> >
>> > BTW what do you understand by Ukrainian territories
>> where Poles were
>> > unwanted and simply removed?
>> >
>> > Tymek
>> >
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