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On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 09:52, Christian Suciu <christiansuciu@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Anyone like to share what happened in his country? I note with satisfaction
> the continued collapse of the Polish left.


In Estonia the law was changed some time ago so that not candidates but
parties would be voted on.  As a result, a person running outside a party --
on his own -- got almost the most votes, even enough for two seats (which he
didn't get, naturally).  He got *most* votes in all but three districts,
even -- more than any party.

As Estonia has six seats, proportionality is a bit off.  All major parties
got in, however.

Apparently, the shift away from left-wing parties was prominent throughout
Europe.

Turnout was 27%, a record low for all post-1989 elections. Dozens of people
> were arrested for voting twice, or trying to do so.
>

That can get you arrested in Romania?

In Estonia, you're given a ballot only if you're on the voting list, and
have not signed as having gotten one already, which kind of prevents double
voting.  I suppose you can be arrested (probably for assault on an official,
possibly also for disorderly conduct) if you attempt to take a ballot from
the ballot manager by force, but I've never heard of this happening. For
people outside their registered district (as I voted this year), the lists
are computerised, and, I believe, shared online between all districts.  In
this case, the ballots are double-enveloped and delivered to their home
district for counting.

The main kind of legally problematic things we got was that most parties
attempted to do campaign advertising in illegal ways.  Most prominent were
the Central Party youth, who kept distributing muffins and candy and
literature.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 09:52, Christian Suciu <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:christiansuciu@yahoo.com">christiansu=
ciu@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td vali=
gn=3D"top" style=3D"font:inherit">Anyone like to share what happened in his=
 country? I note with satisfaction the continued collapse of the Polish lef=
t.</td>
</tr></tbody></table></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In Estonia the law wa=
s changed some time ago so that not candidates but parties would be voted o=
n. =C2=A0As a result, a person running outside a party -- on his own -- got=
 almost the most votes, even enough for two seats (which he didn&#39;t get,=
 naturally). =C2=A0He got *most* votes in all but three districts, even -- =
more than any party.</div>
<div><br></div><div>As Estonia has six seats, proportionality is a bit off.=
 =C2=A0All major parties got in, however.</div><div><br></div><div>Apparent=
ly, the shift away from left-wing parties was prominent throughout Europe.<=
/div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><table cellspacing=3D"0" cel=
lpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font:inh=
erit"><div>
Turnout was 27%, a record low for all post-1989 elections. Dozens of people=
 were arrested for voting
 twice, or trying to do so.</div></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote><di=
v><br></div><div>That can get you arrested in Romania?</div><div><br></div>=
<div>In Estonia, you&#39;re given a ballot only if you&#39;re on the voting=
 list, and have not signed as having gotten one already, which kind of prev=
ents double voting. =C2=A0I suppose you can be arrested (probably for assau=
lt on an official, possibly also for disorderly conduct) if you attempt to =
take a ballot from the ballot manager by force, but I&#39;ve never heard of=
 this happening. For people outside their registered district (as I voted t=
his year), the lists are computerised, and, I believe, shared online betwee=
n all districts. =C2=A0In this case, the ballots are double-enveloped and d=
elivered to their home district for counting.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The main kind of legally problematic things we got was =
that most parties attempted to do campaign advertising in illegal ways. =C2=
=A0Most prominent were the Central Party youth, who kept distributing muffi=
ns and candy and literature.</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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