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Yes, he seems to be much more careful now. But also, he does not have many
edits yet, only 49 so far. I can see 3 types of edits he does:
*biographies of Traian Basescu, Ion Ilescu and Adrian Nastase. He is
whitewashing the latter two, and has recently merged the huge article
[[Criticism of Traian Basescu]] into his biography. I suggest we "fight" him
on this ground, i.e. in these 3 articles. First, because it would be much
easier to get sources. Second, because it would be easier to get random
outside support. Already we have a new name: User:Fsol . Third, we can annoy
him here, and let it be in a place where admins would look for signs of
misbehavior: BLP and especially of top-ranking politicians. Forth, being
bogged down here, he would do less damage elsewhere. I suggest we should
argue to restore [[Criticism of Traian Basescu]] as a separate article, and
add as many unpleasant details about Iliescu and Nastase we can find on
internet (but do that in a civilized way).

*BLPs Romanian communist activists. Also Christian noted his sandbox on
communist "resistance movement". We should go first and prehemptively create
"Miscarea Nationala de Rezistenta" (National Resistance Movement) which was
one of the first anti-communist resistance groups in 1945-47, also a major
one. Then we should demand sources from Anonimu to support his title
"Romanian resistance movement". He won't be able to get them. I suggest a
title "Underground communist activity in Romania", which can cover from 1918
till 1944.

*only minor edits in some articles where he would love to do damage:  Romania
during World War II<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_during_World_War_II>
, Romanians <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians>, History of
Romania<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Romania>
, Romania <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania>, Union of Bessarabia with
Romania <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Bessarabia_with_Romania>,
Internet
operations by Russian secret
police<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_operations_by_Russian_secret_police>
but
so far he only did minor changes there.


2009/6/18 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:42, Christian Suciu <christiansuciu@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Obviously this is a huge setback. But it's far from fatal.
>
> Anonimu's response to my outreach message: <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Digwuren&diff=297204823&oldid=297190762
> >.
>
> Frankly, *this* I did not expect.
>
> --
> Andres Soolo
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Yes, he seems to be much more careful now. But also, he does not have many =
edits yet, only 49 so far. I can see 3 types of edits he does:<div><br></di=
v><div>*biographies of Traian Basescu, Ion Ilescu and Adrian Nastase. He is=
 whitewashing the latter two, and has recently merged the huge article [[Cr=
iticism of Traian Basescu]] into his biography. I suggest we &quot;fight&qu=
ot; him on this ground, i.e. in these 3 articles. First, because it would b=
e much easier to get sources. Second, because it would be easier to get ran=
dom outside support. Already we have a new name: User:Fsol . Third, we can =
annoy him here, and let it be in a place where admins would look for signs =
of misbehavior: BLP and especially of top-ranking politicians. Forth, being=
 bogged down here, he would do less damage elsewhere. I suggest we should a=
rgue to restore [[Criticism of Traian Basescu]] as a separate article, and =
add as many unpleasant details about Iliescu and Nastase we can find on int=
ernet (but do that in a civilized way).</div>
<div><br></div><div>*BLPs Romanian communist activists. Also Christian note=
d his sandbox on communist &quot;resistance movement&quot;. We should go fi=
rst and prehemptively create &quot;Miscarea Nationala de Rezistenta&quot; (=
National Resistance Movement) which was one of the first anti-communist res=
istance groups in 1945-47, also a major one. Then we should demand sources =
from Anonimu to support his title &quot;Romanian resistance movement&quot;.=
 He won&#39;t be able to get them. I suggest a title &quot;Underground comm=
unist activity in Romania&quot;, which can cover from 1918 till 1944.</div>
<div><br></div><div>*only minor edits in some articles where he would love =
to do damage:=A0<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: -web=
kit-sans-serif; line-height: 19px; ">=A0<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/=
wiki/Romania_during_World_War_II" title=3D"Romania during World War II" sty=
le=3D"text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: non=
e; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-back=
ground-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color:=
 initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Romania during World War =
II</a>,=A0<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians" title=3D"Roman=
ians" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-im=
age: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -web=
kit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; backgroun=
d-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Romanians</a>,=A0=
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Romania" title=3D"Histor=
y of Romania" style=3D"text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); =
background-image: none; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initi=
al; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Hist=
ory of Romania</a>,=A0<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania" titl=
e=3D"Romania" style=3D"text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(90, 54, 150);=
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ial; background-color: initial; background-position: initial initial; ">Rom=
ania</a>,=A0<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Bessarabia_wit=
h_Romania" title=3D"Union of Bessarabia with Romania" style=3D"text-decorat=
ion: underline; color: rgb(0, 43, 184); background-image: none; background-=
repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: i=
nitial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: initial; back=
ground-position: initial initial; ">Union of Bessarabia with Romania</a>,=
=A0<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_operations_by_Russian_s=
ecret_police" title=3D"Internet operations by Russian secret police" style=
=3D"text-decoration: none; color: rgb(90, 54, 150); background-image: none;=
 background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-backgr=
ound-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: i=
nitial; background-position: initial initial; ">Internet operations by Russ=
ian secret police</a>=A0but so far he only did minor changes there.=A0=A0</=
span></div>
<div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/18 Digwuren <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:42, Christian Suciu &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:christiansuciu@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">christiansuciu@yaho=
o.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Obviously this is a huge setback. But =
it&#39;s far from fatal.<br>
<br></div>Anonimu&#39;s response to my outreach message: &lt;<a href=3D"htt=
p://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk:Digwuren&amp;diff=3D2972=
04823&amp;oldid=3D297190762" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/in=
dex.php?title=3DUser_talk:Digwuren&amp;diff=3D297204823&amp;oldid=3D2971907=
62</a>&gt;.<br>

<br>Frankly, *this* I did not expect.<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>--<br>=
Andres Soolo<br>
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