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On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 18:28, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> "Infiltration" is not quite the proper word, IMO. I am sure those
> individuals were faithful to their original allegeance to the Soviet
> intelligence services.
>

I see your point.

The commentators say that a true spy is generally not arrested in so much
> public light.
>

In commenting the Simm case, many commenters said the same.  One possible
explanation is that arrest of Simm changed the tradition.  Another is that
since NATO was involved in both cases, it serves NATO's interests to make
the arrests publically, perhaps as a way of pressure on future Russian spy
recruitment, as you explain.  Also, NATO's been in somewhat of an
embarrassing situation since the Georgia affair; public arrests of Russian
spies might be a politically convenient balance to the restoration of
conferences between NATO and Russia, which were not supposed to be restored
until Russia pulls out of Georgian territory.

Are there any potentially open military affairs between Russia and Romania?
 According to my map, Transnistria doesn't seem to be a neighbour of
Romania, and IIRC, the US military bases in Romania weren't among those that
were supposed to hold the SDI component installations.  Anything else
relevant to this affair?

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 18:28, Dorin Cheptea <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.com">dorin.cheptea=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>&quot;Infiltration&quot; is not quite the p=
roper word, IMO. I am sure those individuals were faithful to their origina=
l allegeance to the Soviet intelligence services.</div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>I see your point.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>The commentators say that a =
true spy is generally not arrested in so much public light.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In commenting the Simm case, many co=
mmenters said the same. =C2=A0One possible explanation is that arrest of Si=
mm changed the tradition. =C2=A0Another is that since NATO was involved in =
both cases, it serves NATO&#39;s interests to make the arrests publically, =
perhaps as a way of pressure on future Russian spy recruitment, as you expl=
ain. =C2=A0Also, NATO&#39;s been in somewhat of an embarrassing situation s=
ince the Georgia affair; public arrests of Russian spies might be a politic=
ally convenient balance to the restoration of conferences between NATO and =
Russia, which were not supposed to be restored until Russia pulls out of Ge=
orgian territory.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Are there any potentially open military affairs between=
 Russia and Romania? =C2=A0According to my map, Transnistria doesn&#39;t se=
em to be a neighbour of Romania, and IIRC, the US military bases in Romania=
 weren&#39;t among those that were supposed to hold the SDI component insta=
llations. =C2=A0Anything else relevant to this affair?</div>
<div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0<br></div></div>Andres Soolo<br>

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