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2009/6/16 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>

> My impression is that knowledge of German atrocities is very much neglect=
ed
> in modern times. For example while Katyn is often remembered you don't he=
ar
> much about Pia=C5=9Bnica, or Selbstschutz camps where much more people we=
re
> murdered.
>

Well, the Holocaust tends to overshadow German atrocities of lesser scale.
 But while this is understandable in daily news media, encyclop=C3=A6dias s=
hould
not be subject to such overshadowing.

You also don't hear that in most of those cases Germans were never sentence=
d
> or punished after the war. I guess it is connected to EU effort for
> "harmonious coexistance"-not cenzorship but simply unwillgness of some to
> write about things that will not serve further european integration.
>

I doubt it's political.  I suspect it's psychological, probably related to
the same low-hanging fruit effect.

Again, understandable in daily news, but shouldn't effect
encyclop=C3=A6dia-building.  Naturally, Wikipedia can not escape the fact t=
hat
the best-known cases draw most new users' interest, but there are also some
long-time editors on Wikipedia, and with some support, the lesser-known
notable cases should be maintainable, too.

Lately I realised that while our newspaper Wyborcza writes about old Soviet
> emblems being returned to Russia or old members of regime continuing thei=
r
> normall life, it almost never touches about similiar things in Germany.
>

Russia cares about Soviet emblems.  Why would Germany want swastika emblems
back?  It's already got museums full of this stuff, and it doesn't have any
other use for them.

Furthermore, Germany actually has double problem, in that it also has to
reintegrate the formerly Soviet half, including the hundred thousand former
Stasi agents.

--=20
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/16 Molobo Molobo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div>My impression is that knowledge of German atrocities is very much negl=
ected in modern times. For example while Katyn is often remembered you don&=
#39;t hear much about Pia=C5=9Bnica, or Selbstschutz camps where much more =
people were murdered.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, the Holocaust tends to overshadow Ge=
rman atrocities of lesser scale. =C2=A0But while this is understandable in =
daily news media, encyclop=C3=A6dias should not be subject to such overshad=
owing.</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div>You also don&#39;t hear=
 that in most of those cases Germans were never sentenced or punished after=
 the war. I guess it is connected to EU effort for &quot;harmonious coexist=
ance&quot;-not cenzorship but simply unwillgness of some to write about thi=
ngs that will not serve further european integration.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I doubt it&#39;s political. =C2=A0I suspec=
t it&#39;s psychological, probably related to the same low-hanging fruit ef=
fect.</div><div><br></div><div>Again, understandable in daily news, but sho=
uldn&#39;t effect encyclop=C3=A6dia-building. =C2=A0Naturally, Wikipedia ca=
n not escape the fact that the best-known cases draw most new users&#39; in=
terest, but there are also some long-time editors on Wikipedia, and with so=
me support, the lesser-known notable cases should be maintainable, too.</di=
v>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Lately I realised that =
while our newspaper Wyborcza writes about old=C2=A0Soviet emblems=C2=A0bein=
g returned to Russia or old=C2=A0members of regime continuing their normall=
 life, it almost never touches about=C2=A0similiar things in Germany.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Russia cares about Soviet emblems. =C2=A0W=
hy would Germany want swastika emblems back? =C2=A0It&#39;s already got mus=
eums full of this stuff, and it doesn&#39;t have any other use for them.</d=
iv><div>
<br></div><div>Furthermore, Germany actually has double problem, in that it=
 also has to reintegrate the formerly Soviet half, including the hundred th=
ousand former Stasi agents.</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<b=
r>


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