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	sympathizers then "vote against". If they would have to chose between
	the 3 versions, we would have had a good chance with Tighina, but since
	they can just derail us by adding a number of "oppose"... Well, if in
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	sympathizers then "vote against". If they would have to chose between
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	they can just derail us by adding a number of "oppose"... Well, if in
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	should the official situation change, I should have no difficulty
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The problem with suggesting Tighina is that the Soviet sympathizers then
"vote against". If they would have to chose between the 3 versions, we would
have had a good chance with Tighina, but since they can just derail us by
adding a number of "oppose"... Well, if in the future the administration law
is modified and the official name is changed to Tighina, I would re-nominate
a move. As of now, all names are used in publications, with none of them
clearly prevailing over the others. If I can make now a case to move it to
Bender, Moldova, then should the official situation change, I should have no
difficulty supporting by this precedent a move back to Tighina. Bendery is
not good for example because [[:Category:Communes of Bendery municipality]]
would be non-sense, as such municipality does not exist.Dorin


2009/7/6 <PetersJV@aol.com>

>  In a message dated 7/5/2009 10:07:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> dorin.cheptea@gmail.com writes:
>
> In view of this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_July_6#Category:Bender I
> proposed this move:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bendery&diff=300514274&oldid=258878498
> [[Bendery]] --> [[Bender, Moldova]]
>
> Thank you in anticipation for your support. Dorin
>
>
> Originally I supported "Bendery" as that was common in sources and got
> around the need for disambiguation, "Bender" a robot character in a cartoon
> being the #1 match for "Bender" at the time...
>
> The BGN database is a bit ambivalent on naming. The "inhabited" place has
> Tighina as "BGN standard" with Bender/Bendery as variants, yet the train
> station, administrative division, etc. have "Bender" for "BGN Standard". I'm
> fine with "Bender, Moldova." Even with the ambivalent BGN naming a case
> could also be made for Tighina, so I'm open.
>
> /Peters
>
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The problem with suggesting Tighina is that the Soviet sympathizers then &q=
uot;vote against&quot;. If they would have to chose between the 3 versions,=
 we would have had a good chance with Tighina, but since they can just dera=
il us by adding a number of &quot;oppose&quot;... Well, if in the future th=
e administration law is modified and the official name is changed to Tighin=
a, I would re-nominate a move. As of now, all names are used in publication=
s, with none of them clearly prevailing over the others. If I can make now =
a case to move it to Bender, Moldova, then should the official situation ch=
ange, I should have no difficulty supporting by this precedent a move back =
to Tighina. Bendery is not good for example because [[:Category:Communes of=
 Bendery municipality]] would be non-sense, as such municipality does not e=
xist.<div>
Dorin</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/7/6  <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:PetersJV@aol.com">PetersJV@aol.com</a>&gt;</span>=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">




<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;color:#000000;font-family:Arial"><font face=3D=
"Arial" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2"><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<div>
<div>In a message dated 7/5/2009 10:07:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dorin.cheptea@=
gmail.com</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:blue 2px =
solid"><font style=3D"background-color:transparent" face=3D"Arial" color=3D=
"#000000" size=3D"2">
  <div>In view of this:</div><a title=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip=
edia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_July_6#Category:Bender" href=3D"htt=
p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_July=
_6#Category:Bender" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi=
a:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_July_6#Category:Bender</a>=20

  <div>I proposed this move:</div>
  <div><a title=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Bendery=
&amp;diff=3D300514274&amp;oldid=3D258878498" href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.or=
g/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Bendery&amp;diff=3D300514274&amp;oldid=3D2588784=
98" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Bend=
ery&amp;diff=3D300514274&amp;oldid=3D258878498</a></div>

  <div>[[Bendery]] --&gt; [[Bender, Moldova]]</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div>Thank you in anticipation for your support.=20
Dorin</div><br></font></blockquote></div>
<div></div>
<div>=A0</div>
</div></div><div>Originally I supported &quot;Bendery&quot; as that was com=
mon in sources and got=20
around the need for disambiguation, &quot;Bender&quot; a robot character in=
 a cartoon=20
being the #1 match for &quot;Bender&quot; at the time...</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>The BGN database is a bit ambivalent on naming. The &quot;inhabited&qu=
ot; place has=20
Tighina as &quot;BGN standard&quot; with Bender/Bendery as variants, yet th=
e train=20
station, administrative division, etc. have &quot;Bender&quot; for &quot;BG=
N Standard&quot;. I&#39;m=20
fine with &quot;Bender, Moldova.&quot;=A0Even with the ambivalent BGN namin=
g a case=20
could also be made for=A0Tighina, so I&#39;m open.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>/Peters=A0</div></font><div><br><font style=3D"color:black;font:normal=
 10pt arial,san-serif"> <hr style=3D"margin-top:10px">Make your summer sizz=
le with <a href=3D"http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=3Demlcntusfood00000005=
" target=3D"_blank">fast and easy recipes</a> for the grill.</font></div>
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