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I don't know really what's the problem. I previously sent Kolobrzeg article
and Polish Areas Annexed by Nazi Germany article and they went smoothly,
Oberlander article is important as it serves to start a series of articles
on members of the infamous Shieder Commission. I also planned to write short
expansions on Kruger, Czaja and Scharlach.


2009/9/1 Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com>

> So if it is just an expansion is this o.k. to post it?Could Tymek, Piotrus
> and Radek state their opinions please? Thanks
> I will post it as soon as I get CLEAR go ahead from all of you.
> In my opinion it looks very good and I trust Molobo's knowledge but I do
> not know much about the subject myself, I don't want to make some kind of
> mistake. Copy paste the whole article or just sections etc.???
> Jacek
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/1/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [WPM] Theodore Oberlander article complete
> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 11:35 AM
>
> Jacure, despite what Tymek claims,  this is not something new, as I wrote
> two days ago:
>
>
> (2 dni temu)
>
> *Yes, I know there is an article, my version is the copy of this
> artricle with expanded information. It is not something completely
> new, but the same version as with wiki but biger, with more
> information, an sources. You can just paste it into the article with
> summary (expanded information). I tested it on preview and they were
> no errors, but you can double check to be sure.*
>
>
> So final question-I posted this article six days ago, after spending
> considering amount of time to collect resources and edit the article, hoping
> that it could get posted. So can it finally get posted.
>
>
> 2009/9/1 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=molobus@gmail.com>
> >:
> > Tymek why do you state this after  I already explained to you that it
> > is not replacement but expansion of the current article. If you don't
> > want to post it for reasons unknown just say so, I will ask somebody
> > else.
> >
> > 2009/9/1 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>
> >:
> >> I thought the article on Oberlander did not exist on English Wikipedia.
> Now
> >> I see it there, and I do not think it is fair to completely replace
> >> somebody's work. Some user took their time, and now we are to destroy
> their
> >> efforts. Changes are OK, but not replacing the whole article. This is
> what I
> >> am thinking.
> >>
> >> Tymek
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jacurek@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=jacurek@yahoo.com>>
> >> Subject: Re: [WPM] Theodore Oberlander article complete
> >> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net<http://mc/compose?to=folks@wikipedometer.net>
> >
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 10:11 AM
> >>
> >> I can do it,
> >> Do we all agree as far as the version?
> >> What are Tymek's abjections? Sorry I don't follow your disagreements to
> >> closely.
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=molobus@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=molobus@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [WPM] Theodore Oberlander article complete
> >> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net<http://mc/compose?to=folks@wikipedometer.net>
> >
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 2:23 AM
> >>
> >> So is anybody going to copy this article or was my work pointless ?
> >>
> >> 2009/8/30 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=molobus@gmail.com>
> >:
> >>> Yes, I know there is an article, my version is the copy of this
> >>> artricle with expanded information. It is not something completely
> >>> new, but the same version as with wiki but biger, with more
> >>> information, an sources. You can just paste it into the article with
> >>> summary (expanded information). I tested it on preview and they were
> >>> no errors, but you can double check to be sure.
> >>>
> >>> 2009/8/28 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
> >>>> piotr micula wrote:
> >>>>> OK, but there is an article on him already
> >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Oberl%C3%A4nder .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What am I supposed to do now? Replace it all with what you wrote?
> >>>>> Tymek
> >>>>
> >>>> Merge. Question to Molobo: is your article a merged version? If not,
> >>>> please rewrite it so.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Piotr Konieczny
> >>>>
> >>>> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> >>>> theory."
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I don&#39;t know really what&#39;s the problem. I previously sent Kolobrzeg=
 article and Polish Areas Annexed by Nazi Germany article and they went smo=
othly, Oberlander article is important as it serves to start a series of ar=
ticles on members of the infamous Shieder Commission. I also planned to wri=
te short expansions on Kruger, Czaja and Scharlach.<br>
<h1 id=3D"firstHeading" class=3D"firstHeading"><br></h1><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">2009/9/1 Jack <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jacurek@y=
ahoo.com">jacurek@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0p=
t 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td styl=
e=3D"font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font=
-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjus=
t: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign=3D"top">
So if it is just an expansion is this o.k. to post it?<div>Could Tymek, Pio=
trus and Radek state their opinions please? Thanks</div><div>I will post it=
 as soon as I get CLEAR go ahead from all of you.</div><div>In my opinion i=
t looks very good and I trust Molobo&#39;s knowledge but I do not know much=
 about the subject myself, I=A0don&#39;t want to make some kind of mistake.=
 Copy paste the whole article or just sections etc.???</div>
<div>Jacek</div><div><br>--- On <b>Tue, 9/1/09, Molobo Molobo <i>&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;<=
/i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 2=
55); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<br>From: Molobo Molobo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [WPM] Theodore Oberlander=
 article complete<br>To: &quot;Wikipedia statistics&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:folks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D"_blank">folks@wikipedometer.net</a>=
&gt;<br>
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 11:35 AM<br><br><div>Jacure, despite what=
 Tymek claims, =A0this is not something new, as I wrote two days ago:<br><b=
r> <br> (2 dni temu)<br>	<br><i>Yes, I know there is an article, my version=
 is the copy of this<br>
artricle with expanded information. It is not something completely<br>
new, but the same version as with wiki but biger, with more<br>information,=
 an sources. You can just paste it into the article with<br>summary (expand=
ed information). I tested it on preview and they were<br>no errors, but you=
 can double check to be sure.</i><br>

<br><br>So final question-I posted this article six days ago, after spendin=
g considering amount of time to collect resources and edit the article, hop=
ing that it could get posted. So can it finally get posted.<br><br><br>

2009/9/1 Molobo Molobo &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=
=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>&gt; =
Tymek why do you state this after =A0I already explained to you that it<br>=
&gt; is not replacement but expansion of the current article. If you don&#3=
9;t<br>

&gt; want to post it for reasons unknown just say so, I will ask somebody<b=
r>&gt; else.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 2009/9/1 piotr micula &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">bas=
iaipiotr@yahoo.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;&gt; I thought the article on Oberlander did not exist on English Wikip=
edia. Now<br>
&gt;&gt; I see it there, and I do not think it is fair to completely replac=
e<br>&gt;&gt; somebody&#39;s work. Some user took their time, and now we ar=
e to destroy their<br>&gt;&gt; efforts. Changes are OK, but not replacing t=
he whole article. This is what I<br>

&gt;&gt; am thinking.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Tymek<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;=
 --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Jack &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://mc/compose=
?to=3Djacurek@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">jacurek@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; From: Jack &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://mc/c=
ompose?to=3Djacurek@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">jacurek@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<=
br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [WPM] Theodore Oberlander article complete<br>&gt;&gt=
; To: &quot;Wikipedia statistics&quot; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http=
://mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D"_blank">folks@wikiped=
ometer.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 10:11 AM<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I can do it,<br>&gt;&gt; Do we all agree as far as the=
 version?<br>&gt;&gt; What are Tymek&#39;s abjections? Sorry I don&#39;t fo=
llow your disagreements to<br>&gt;&gt; closely.<br>&gt;&gt; Jack<br>&gt;&gt=
;<br>

&gt;&gt; --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Molobo Molobo &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"=
http://mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">molobus@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; From: Molobo Molobo &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow" href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>

&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [WPM] Theodore Oberlander article complete<br>&gt;&gt=
; To: &quot;Wikipedia statistics&quot; &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http=
://mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D"_blank">folks@wikiped=
ometer.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 2:23 AM<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; So is anybody going to copy this article or was my wor=
k pointless ?<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; 2009/8/30 Molobo Molobo &lt;<a rel=3D=
"nofollow" href=3D"http://mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes, I know there is an article, my version is the copy of thi=
s<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; artricle with expanded information. It is not something comple=
tely<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; new, but the same version as with wiki but biger, with=
 more<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; information, an sources. You can just paste it into t=
he article with<br>

&gt;&gt;&gt; summary (expanded information). I tested it on preview and the=
y were<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; no errors, but you can double check to be sure.<br>&=
gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 2009/8/28 Piotr Konieczny &lt;piokon@post.pl&gt=
;:<br>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; piotr micula wrote:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; OK, but there =
is an article on him already<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a rel=3D"nofollow" hr=
ef=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Oberl%C3%A4nder" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Oberl%C3%A4nder</a> .<br>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What am I supposed to do now? =
Replace it all with what you wrote?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Tymek<br>&gt;&g=
t;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Merge. Question to Molobo: is your article a=
 merged version? If not,<br>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; please rewrite it so.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&=
gt; --<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Piotr Konieczny<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&=
gt;&gt; &quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality=
, not in<br>

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