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On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 22:09, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NAME#Controversial_names states
> that "allegation" should be avoided in a title unless the article
> concerns charges in a legal case or accusations of illegality under
> civil, criminal or international law which have not yet been proven in
> a court of law. In the case of Offliner's example of [[Allegations of
> of ethnic minorities in Estonia]], this would be a valid title since
> such discrimination would involve the breach of various international
> treaties and internal laws, whereas [[Allegations of Russian influence
> operations in Estonia]] would not be valid since no laws have
> necessarily been breached


I think I'm going to argue that "Allegations of ..." comes to play when the
article discusses * allegations* rather than the alleged actions.  It's
obvious, it's intuitive, and it runs counter to the policy. ;-)

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 22:09, Martin <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1=
ex;">
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NAME#Controversial_names"=
 target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NAME#Controversia=
l_names</a> states<br>
that &quot;allegation&quot; should be avoided in a title unless the article=
<br>
concerns charges in a legal case or accusations of illegality under<br>
civil, criminal or international law which have not yet been proven in<br>
a court of law. In the case of Offliner&#39;s example of [[Allegations of<b=
r>
of ethnic minorities in Estonia]], this would be a valid title since<br>
such discrimination would involve the breach of various international<br>
treaties and internal laws, whereas [[Allegations of Russian influence<br>
operations in Estonia]] would not be valid since no laws have<br>
necessarily been breached</blockquote><div><br>I think I&#39;m going to arg=
ue that &quot;Allegations of ...&quot; comes to play when the article discu=
sses * allegations* rather than the alleged actions.=C2=A0 It&#39;s obvious=
, it&#39;s intuitive, and it runs counter to the policy. ;-)<br>
</div></div><br>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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