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2009/3/21 <PetersJV@aol.com>

>  By all acounts, Russavia has been a productive WP editor since 2005,
> especially in improving the quality and quantity of articles regarding
> various topics related to Russia:
> *Russian aviation: airlines, airports, airplanes
>

I agree with that.  I see this sort of thing in his contribution list a lot,
and most of the time, it's fine.

But how would it figure into the message for Jehochman's talkpage you
mentioned?

The downturn started with the 2008 war between Russia and Georgia over South
> Ossetia, [
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2008_South_Ossetia_war&diff=prev&oldid=233945097maintaining that NPOV balance means one part the world, one part Russia],
> and that ''Russian denial'' of occupation therefore means one cannot name an
> article section as dealing with Russian occupation, followed closely by [
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:2008_South_Ossetia_war&diff=prev&oldid=233945623allegations of "yet another Russia hate-fest article."]
>

In other words, a significant amount of major differences between Russian
news and Western news led him to a frustrating case of cognitive dissonance,
and he resolved it by becoming a radical Russian patriot.  Things like this
are common on Wikipedia, which says quite a bit about Wikipedia's
dysfunctionality.

Unfortunately, due to the very same dysfunctionality, we're prohibited from
explaining this effect on Wikipedia.  So, how does it help us?

P. S. See [
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement&diff=278751468&oldid=278748935],
a post by me on AE regarding Jehochman's grudge.  Is it over the top?
 Should I remove it?

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/3/21  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:PetersJV@aol.com">PetersJV@aol.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">




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"Arial" color=3D"#000000" size=3D"2">
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ts,=20
airplanes</div></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree with t=
hat. =C2=A0I see this sort of thing in his contribution list a lot, and mos=
t of the time, it&#39;s fine.</div><div><br></div><div>But how would it fig=
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rev&amp;oldid=3D233945623</a>=20
allegations of &quot;yet another Russia hate-fest article.&quot;]</div></fo=
nt></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In other words, a significant amo=
unt of major differences between Russian news and Western news led him to a=
 frustrating case of cognitive dissonance, and he resolved it by becoming a=
 radical Russian patriot. =C2=A0Things like this are common on Wikipedia, w=
hich says quite a bit about Wikipedia&#39;s dysfunctionality.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, due to the very same dysfunctionality, w=
e&#39;re prohibited from explaining this effect on Wikipedia. =C2=A0So, how=
 does it help us?</div><div><br></div><div>P. S. See [<a href=3D"http://en.=
wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/A=
rbitration_enforcement&amp;diff=3D278751468&amp;oldid=3D278748935">http://e=
n.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard=
/Arbitration_enforcement&amp;diff=3D278751468&amp;oldid=3D278748935</a>], a=
 post by me on AE regarding Jehochman&#39;s grudge. =C2=A0Is it over the to=
p? =C2=A0Should I remove it?</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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