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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 04:34, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:

> *While I am haven't read much about "pro-EU propaganda",*
>

It's a complex concept.

On one hand:

When I studied International Relations, we had usually once per two months
> or so meetings with people representing EU and telling over and over and
> over and over how great and beautifull it is to live in the beautifull and
> great European family.
>

On one hand, EU goes through a lot of effort to promote itself.  It
starts from posting signs "Road reconstruction partially funded by EU"
onto reconstructed roads, but the "European Information centres" and
other entities also take care of regular news articles, seminaries and
other public material that both describes what EU does and also tells
people it's wonderful that it does all that.

On another hand, there are
spontaneous conspiracy theories aloft speaking about "pro-Union
brainwashing" in schools' textbooks and the supposed EU media control.
 Some of it is nonsense, but because of the previous topic and the
complexity of EU relations, laypeople often have hard time telling the chaff
from the grains.

On third hand, especially in the former Soviet sphere of interest, there are
also astroturf conspiracy theories about how European Union is "just like
the old Soviet Union" and is propagandising the people about EU being better
than USSR even though -- so the conspiracy theories go -- it's untrue.  Most
of this is blatant nonsense, but the two previous points make it easier for
laypeople to swallow -- especially people who are politically unhappy.  In
the current economic climate, a lot of people are.

It kind of resembled to me the old pro-SU propaganda I experienced in
> primary school.
>

And on the fourth hand, an important part of the point of EU is keeping
Germans and French from going to war with each other.  Common market is one
of the tools towards that end.  Telling people on both sides of the border
that people on the other side of the border are decent people and it would
be a shame to wage war on them is another of the tools EU employs.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 04:34, Molobo Molobo <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im"><i>While I am haven&#39;t read much about &quot;pro-EU pr=
opaganda&quot;,</i></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It&#39;s a comple=
x concept.</div><div><br></div><div>On one hand:</div><div><br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex;">
When I studied International Relations, we had usually once per two months =
or so meetings with people representing EU and telling over and over and ov=
er and over how great and beautifull it is to live in the beautifull and gr=
eat European family.<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>On=C2=A0one=C2=A0hand,=C2=A0EU=C2=A0goes=
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<div><br></div><div>On=C2=A0another=C2=A0hand,=C2=A0there=C2=A0are spontane=
ous=C2=A0conspiracy=C2=A0theories=C2=A0aloft=C2=A0speaking=C2=A0about=C2=A0=
&quot;pro-Union=C2=A0brainwashing&quot;=C2=A0in=C2=A0schools&#39;=C2=A0text=
books=C2=A0and=C2=A0the=C2=A0supposed=C2=A0EU=C2=A0media=C2=A0control. =C2=
=A0Some of it is nonsense, but because of the previous topic and the comple=
xity of EU relations, laypeople often have hard time telling the chaff from=
 the grains.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On third hand, especially in the former Soviet sphere o=
f interest, there are also astroturf conspiracy theories about how European=
 Union is &quot;just like the old Soviet Union&quot; and is propagandising =
the people about EU being better than USSR even though -- so the conspiracy=
 theories go -- it&#39;s untrue. =C2=A0Most of this is blatant nonsense, bu=
t the two previous points make it easier for laypeople to swallow -- especi=
ally people who are politically unhappy. =C2=A0In the current economic clim=
ate, a lot of people are.</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">It kind of resembled to me t=
he old pro-SU propaganda I experienced in primary school.<br></blockquote><=
div>
<br></div><div>And on the fourth hand, an important part of the point of EU=
 is keeping Germans and French from going to war with each other. =C2=A0Com=
mon market is one of the tools towards that end. =C2=A0Telling people on bo=
th sides of the border that people on the other side of the border are dece=
nt people and it would be a shame to wage war on them is another of the too=
ls EU employs.</div>
<div><br></div></div>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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