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Richard Tylman wrote:
> 
> And now, it is me, who's under attack... and for what? For not letting 
> Faustian and Lvivske 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lvivske> bully me into 
> submission this time around. Please take a look at it, at the ANI. I 
> don't know what to do with these guys.
>  
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Poeticbent_reported_by_user:Faustian

What I find problematic is that one member of our group is proposing a 
ban on another:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=305222320

I was hoping that we can keep the Polish-Ukrainian tensions down to 
nothing. I am sorry to say that I've been wrong, and I am sorry to see 
that the Ukrainian editors are not helping at all :( Instead of trying 
to resolve the issue in our discussion group - where it was raised - 
they are bringing it out at ANI.

I am afraid I will have to withdraw from the WPM group and suggest all 
Polish editors do so as well. With a member suggesting a ban on another 
for a petty issue, I no longer have confidence that this group integrity 
is uncompromised. With ban proposals on ANI against one of the most 
productive members of the Polish community, I will have to take a stance 
against the Ukrainian editors, and I cannot assume that this 
communication channel nor anything I will say here are secure anymore, 
particularly as some of the things said here can be easily used to 
justify a ban on the members of this discussion group.

-- 
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in 
theory."

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