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Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:28:53 -0400
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	you look at JP's pattern it's >> fairly peculiar - all edits are made
	between 16 to 5 with no edits in >> between. All of his socks from here:
	>> >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Jacob_Peters
	>> have the same pattern, including the one we caught recently, Kupredu.
	>> Basically, if you get that nagging suspicion that you're dealing with
	>> a JP sock this is probably a pretty good test. >> >> Radek >> >> >>
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	this context is simply converting actual values to >> > percent-like
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How do you know? All his socks came from Los Angeles area.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jacob Peters is from New York and he works at post office. At least that =
is
> as far as I know :)
>
> 2009/6/11 radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
>
> One thing that this tool should be quite useful for though is to
>> quickly catch socks of Jacob Peters. If you look at JP's pattern it's
>> fairly peculiar - all edits are made between 16 to 5 with no edits in
>> between. All of his socks from here:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Jacob_Pet=
ers
>> have the same pattern, including the one we caught recently, Kupredu.
>> Basically, if you get that nagging suspicion that you're dealing with
>> a JP sock this is probably a pretty good test.
>>
>> Radek
>>
>>
>> 2009/6/11 Sander S=E4de <sander.sade@gmail.com>:
>> > Normalization in this context is simply converting actual values to
>> > percent-like numbers, so two users with different edit counts can be
>> > represented in a graph, nothing more.
>> >
>> > The usability for detecting socks or locations is naturally limited -
>> > however, changing one's normal editing times is much harder than
>> changing
>> > username - a major shift in lifestyle should be involved. This can be =
an
>> > additional data in sock detection - also, I suspect it is one of the
>> tools
>> > that checkusers have, along with simple whois+geodata and a tool to
>> compare
>> > articles edited - ie if suspected socks have edited the same articles.
>> >
>> > Sander
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Wikipedia statistics discussion list
>> > folks@wikipedometer.net
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How do you know? All his socks came from Los Angeles area.<br><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Molobo Molobo <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Jacob Peters is f=
rom New York and he works at post office. At least that is as far as I know=
 :)<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/11 radek szulga <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:rsszulga@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rsszulga@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">One thing that th=
is tool should be quite useful for though is to<br>
quickly catch socks of Jacob Peters. If you look at JP&#39;s pattern it&#39=
;s<br>
fairly peculiar - all edits are made between 16 to 5 with no edits in<br>
between. All of his socks from here:<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_J=
acob_Peters" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipe=
dia_sockpuppets_of_Jacob_Peters</a><br>
have the same pattern, including the one we caught recently, Kupredu.<br>
Basically, if you get that nagging suspicion that you&#39;re dealing with<b=
r>
a JP sock this is probably a pretty good test.<br>
<div><br>
Radek<br>
<br>
<br>
2009/6/11 Sander S=E4de &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sander.sade@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">sander.sade@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div>&gt; Normalization in this context is simply con=
verting actual values to<br>
&gt; percent-like numbers, so two users with different edit counts can be<b=
r>
&gt; represented in a graph, nothing more.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The usability for detecting socks or locations is naturally limited -<=
br>
&gt; however, changing one&#39;s normal editing times is much harder than c=
hanging<br>
&gt; username - a major shift in lifestyle should be involved. This can be =
an<br>
&gt; additional data in sock detection - also, I suspect it is one of the t=
ools<br>
&gt; that checkusers have, along with simple whois+geodata and a tool to co=
mpare<br>
&gt; articles edited - ie if suspected socks have edited the same articles.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sander<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div><div><div></div><div>&gt; _____________________________________=
__________<br>
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