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Molobo, I wrote about this store only here, in response to Hillock, and I a=
pologize.
=A0
Now tell me where I wrote about Polish superiority. Tell me where I laughed=
 at discrimination of Ukrainians.=20
=A0
All I am saying is that nothing can excuse the mass murder of civilians, no=
thing. And it is interesting that no Ukrainian editor has so far written ab=
out numerous Ukrainian politicians holding top posts in the Polish Parliame=
nt in the interbellum.=20
There is a lengthy list of Ukrainian parliamentarians in Polish parliament =
in the interbellum, see here. Note that many of them died in Gulags.
=A0
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_ukrai%C5%84skich_parlamentarzyst%C3%B3w_=
II_RP
=A0
Tymek

--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I think he is =
an asshole and I complained about him
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 11:19 AM


"And I do not see why writing about it is provoking. "

I meant your constant attacks against Ukrainians o, constant superiority cl=
aims of Poles being better then Ukrainians, laughing at and disregarding di=
scrimination of Ukrainians(oh they murdered Poles because somebody robbed U=
krainian store) and so on on this mailing list. Just the top of my head.


2009/9/15 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>






History is history, you cannot change it. If there is article on Oradour, w=
hy cannot there be article on Huta Pieniacka? And I do not see why writing =
about it is provoking. Is it provoking to write about Holodomor, Holocaust,=
 or Armenian Genocide?=20
=A0
Nobody says that you are provoking the Germans when you write about Destruc=
tion of Kalisz, with my help BTW [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=
=3DDestruction_of_Kalisz&diff=3D238478995&oldid=3D238453928]
=A0
We are all describing history, and if Hillock wants to write about atrociti=
es of Armia Krajowa, he should do it. Clear and simple.

=A0
Tymek


--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:



From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I think he is =
an asshole and I complained about him
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 10:52 AM





In my view Tymek you were always provoking Ukrainian editors here as best a=
s you could.


2009/9/15 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>






I think I should leave this list, as I do not really appreciate being calle=
d a moron and a loser. I have never called people names here, and I was exp=
ecting the same from the others.
=A0
Tymek

--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>=20

Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I think he is =
an asshole and I complained about him
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 10:34 AM=20





Also I think both you should come down, and try to concentrate on
other topics. Fighting each other is counterproductive.

2009/9/15 Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>:
> O.G
> Tymek represents only a portion of Poles. Many do not share sentiment
> for the Kresy region and understand the complexity of Polish-Ukrainian
> relations. Myself I am very tired at the constant wailing of
> kresowiacy, who ignore anything else in Poland.
>
> 2009/9/15 O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca>:
>> You know what? This is the last thing I will write to you. You are a fuc=
king stupid moron, because you cannot even read. NOWHERE did I write that n=
othing happened to Poles. NOWHERE. Unlike you, I do not piss and moan about=
 who killed who and spend hours upon hours making myself a victim of someth=
ing. Because you and your country were raped, violated and dismembered by y=
our neighbors throughout centuries all you can do now is piss and moan abou=
t what a miserable victim you are, how everyone around you wronged you whil=
e you were chivalrous and innocent even as you massacred others, committed =
ethnic cleansing and helped the Nazis to dismember Czechoslovakia. Mark my =
words, the likes of you will always be victims, because all you can do is w=
allow in your own self pity and misery. The world doesn't like pitiful lose=
rs who cannot look into the future and make amends with their neighbors. I =
were a Pole - and luckily I am not - I would be ashamed to be one
>> =A0nationality with a loser like you.
>>
>> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I think he=
 is an asshole and I complained about him
>>> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>>> Received: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 8:59 PM
>>> If you want to write about
>>> atrocities commited by Armia Krajowa, go ahead and do it.
>>> Good luck with finding them, as it will not be easy.
>>>
>>> The thing is that most Poles do not have a problem
>>> with admitting that we were not ideal, and we sinned. With
>>> many Ukrainians like you, the problem is that there are
>>> thousands of statements of witnesses, there are burned
>>> villages in Volhynia that are now a wasteland, there are
>>> human bones unburied in the fields until today, there are
>>> people who remember and who saw what happened, and yet you
>>> pretend like nothing happened.
>>>
>>> I do not see anything disgusting in the template which
>>> describes real and barbaric atrocities commited by the UIA
>>> and SS Galizien. To understand and cooperate, we have to
>>> admit to what happened. And when I see suggestions that it
>>> all is the fault of the Poles, because a Ukrainian store was
>>> robbed in Warsaw some time in 1936, I do not see grounds for
>>> cooperation here.
>>>
>>> Tymek
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, O. G.
>>> <hillock@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: O. G. <hillock@yahoo.ca>
>>> Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about
>>> him I think he is an asshole and I complained about him
>>> To: "Wikipedia statistics"
>>> <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>>> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 12:49 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> No fucking way! I just
>>> "familiarized myself" with this article and am
>>> very tempted to write a series of articles on crimes
>>> committed by Armia Krayova against Ukrainians. Does anyone
>>> seriously think this article and this outrages and extremely
>>> disgusting template http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Massacres_of_=
Poles
>>> is going to lead to any kind of understanding and
>>> cooperation? What keeps me from joining Bandurist is the
>>> fact that I am part of this cabal and I support him
>>> wholeheartedly.
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > From: Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [WPM]
>>> =A0Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I think he is an
>>> asshole and I complained about him
>>> > To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>>> > Received: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 3:07 AM
>>> > I told you guys that Bandurist
>>> > is very problematic. Could our Ukrainian friends here
>>> > intervene please. Thank you.
>>> > Jacek
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: piotr
>>> > micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>
>>> > To: Wikipedia
>>> > statistics <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>>> > Sent: Monday,
>>> > September 14, 2009
>>> =A010:01:51 AM
>>> > Subject: Re:
>>> > [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I
>>> think he
>>> > is an asshole and I complained about him
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Now there is a problem with the Pidkamin massacre
>>> > article. Basically, there is one Jim Sweeney, backed
>>> by
>>> > Bandurist, who seems to demand references for each
>>> word
>>> > there. It=A0goes way too far now.
>>> >
>>> > Tymek
>>> >
>>> > --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Jack
>>> > <jacurek@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion
>>> about
>>> > him I think he is an asshole and I complained about
>>> =A0him
>>> > To: "Wikipedia statistics"
>>> > <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>>> > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 11:48 PM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ofcourse it would work if he only talked to me
>>> instead
>>> > of deleting my comments from his talk page and
>>> replacing it
>>> > ith a smile face.
>>> > He is an ass. This is what I think abut him at the
>>> > moment. Sorry.
>>> > Jack
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Andrei
>>> > Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
>>> > To: Wikipedia
>>> > statistics <folks@wikipedometer.net>
>>> > Sent: Friday,
>>> > September 11, 2009 8:57:56 PM
>>> > Subject: Re:
>>> > [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I
>>> think he
>>> > is an asshole and I complained about him
>>> >
>>> > Jack,
>>> >
>>> > I am not familiar with the article, but just looking
>>> at
>>> > your diffs... You both should=A0 agree to tell
>>> somewhere
>>> > in the beginning of the article that the village/city
>>> was
>>> > Polish before the war (use Polish name and Polish
>>> > voevodstvo), then it was occupied by Nazi - (use
>>> German name
>>> > - that is when the atrocities had happened), but
>>> currently
>>> > it became Ukrainian (use Ukrainian name).
>>> Would
>>> > it work? And let's blame Nazi - no matter if the
>>> Nazi
>>> > where German or
>>> >=A0 Ukrainian.
>>> >
>>> > Andrei
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at
>>> =A010:05 PM,
>>> > Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Issue_with_u=
ser_Bandurist.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Molobo, I wrote about this store only he=
re, in response to Hillock, and I apologize.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Now tell me where I wrote about Polish superiority. Tell me where I la=
ughed at discrimination of Ukrainians. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>All I am saying is that nothing can excuse the mass murder of civilian=
s, nothing. And it is interesting that no Ukrainian editor has so far writt=
en about numerous Ukrainian politicians holding top posts in the Polish Par=
liament in the interbellum. </DIV>
<DIV>There is a lengthy list of Ukrainian parliamentarians in Polish parlia=
ment in the interbellum, see here. Note that many of them died in Gulags.</=
DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_ukrai%C5%84skich_parlame=
ntarzyst%C3%B3w_II_RP">http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_ukrai%C5%84skich_=
parlamentarzyst%C3%B3w_II_RP</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/15/09, Molobo Molobo <I>&lt;molobus@gmai=
l.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Molobo Molobo &lt;molobus@gmail.com&gt;<BR>=
Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I think he is =
an asshole and I complained about him<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;fol=
ks@wikipedometer.net&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 11:19 AM<BR>=
<BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv1040238582>"And I do not see why writing about it is provoking=
. "<BR><BR>I meant your constant attacks against Ukrainians o, constant sup=
eriority claims of Poles being better then Ukrainians, laughing at and disr=
egarding discrimination of Ukrainians(oh they murdered Poles because somebo=
dy robbed Ukrainian store) and so on on this mailing list. Just the top of =
my head.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/9/15 piotr micula <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=
=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com" t=
arget=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow ymailto=3D"mailto:basiaipiotr@yahoo.com">basi=
aipiotr@yahoo.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch:=
 inherit" vAlign=3Dtop>
<DIV>History is history, you cannot change it. If there is article on Orado=
ur, why cannot there be article on Huta Pieniacka? And I do not see why wri=
ting about it is provoking. Is it provoking to write about Holodomor, Holoc=
aust, or Armenian Genocide? </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Nobody says that you are provoking the Germans when you write about De=
struction of Kalisz, with my help BTW [<A href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w=
/index.php?title=3DDestruction_of_Kalisz&amp;diff=3D238478995&amp;oldid=3D2=
38453928" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph=
p?title=3DDestruction_of_Kalisz&amp;diff=3D238478995&amp;oldid=3D238453928<=
/A>]</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>We are all describing history, and if Hillock wants to write about atr=
ocities of Armia Krajowa, he should do it. Clear and simple.</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dim>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek<BR><BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/15/09, Molobo Molobo <I>&lt;<A href=
=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow ymailto=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmai=
l.com</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid">
<DIV class=3Dim><BR>From: Molobo Molobo &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail=
.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollo=
w ymailto=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>Subject=
: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I think he is an assh=
ole and I complained about him<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;<A href=3D=
"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" ta=
rget=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow ymailto=3D"mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net">fol=
ks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR></DIV>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 10=
:52 AM
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5><BR><BR>
<DIV>In my view Tymek you were always provoking Ukrainian editors here as b=
est as you could.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/9/15 piotr micula <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=
=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com" t=
arget=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>basiaipiotr@yahoo.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 border=3D0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch:=
 inherit" vAlign=3Dtop>
<DIV>I think I should leave this list, as I do not really appreciate being =
called a moron and a loser. I have never called people names here, and I wa=
s expecting the same from the others.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 9/15/09, Molobo Molobo <I>&lt;<A href=3D"h=
ttp://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D_=
blank rel=3Dnofollow>molobus@gmail.com</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Molobo Molobo &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc32=
8.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmolobus@gmail.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dn=
ofollow>molobus@gmail.com</A>&gt;=20
<DIV><BR>Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about him I thi=
nk he is an asshole and I complained about him<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics=
" &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikip=
edometer.net" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>folks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt=
;<BR></DIV>Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 10:34 AM=20
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV>Also I think both you should come down, and try to concentrate on<BR>o=
ther topics. Fighting each other is counterproductive.<BR><BR>2009/9/15 Mol=
obo Molobo &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dmo=
lobus@gmail.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>molobus@gmail.com</A>&gt;:<=
BR>&gt; O.G<BR>&gt; Tymek represents only a portion of Poles. Many do not s=
hare sentiment<BR>&gt; for the Kresy region and understand the complexity o=
f Polish-Ukrainian<BR>&gt; relations. Myself I am very tired at the constan=
t wailing of<BR>&gt; kresowiacy, who ignore anything else in Poland.<BR>&gt=
;<BR>&gt; 2009/9/15 O. G. &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/=
compose?to=3Dhillock@yahoo.ca" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>hillock@yahoo=
.ca</A>&gt;:<BR>&gt;&gt; You know what? This is the last thing I will write=
 to you. You are a fucking stupid moron, because you cannot even read. NOWH=
ERE did I write that nothing happened to Poles. NOWHERE. Unlike you, I do n=
ot piss
 and moan about who killed who and spend hours upon hours making myself a v=
ictim of something. Because you and your country were raped, violated and d=
ismembered by your neighbors throughout centuries all you can do now is pis=
s and moan about what a miserable victim you are, how everyone around you w=
ronged you while you were chivalrous and innocent even as you massacred oth=
ers, committed ethnic cleansing and helped the Nazis to dismember Czechoslo=
vakia. Mark my words, the likes of you will always be victims, because all =
you can do is wallow in your own self pity and misery. The world doesn't li=
ke pitiful losers who cannot look into the future and make amends with thei=
r neighbors. I were a Pole - and luckily I am not - I would be ashamed to b=
e one<BR>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;nationality with a loser like you.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&=
gt;&gt; --- On Tue, 9/15/09, piotr micula &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.ma=
il.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank
 rel=3Dnofollow>basiaipiotr@yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt=
;&gt; From: piotr micula &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/c=
ompose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>basiaipio=
tr@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is =
your opinion about him I think he is an asshole and I complained about him<=
BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.m=
ail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D_blank rel=
=3Dnofollow>folks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Received: Tuesd=
ay, September 15, 2009, 8:59 PM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; If you want to write about<=
BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; atrocities commited by Armia Krajowa, go ahead and do it.<B=
R>&gt;&gt;&gt; Good luck with finding them, as it will not be easy.<BR>&gt;=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; The thing is that most Poles do not have a problem=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; with admitting that we were not ideal, and we sinned.
 With<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; many Ukrainians like you, the problem is that there a=
re<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; thousands of statements of witnesses, there are burned<B=
R>&gt;&gt;&gt; villages in Volhynia that are now a wasteland, there are<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&gt; human bones unburied in the fields until today, there are<BR>&=
gt;&gt;&gt; people who remember and who saw what happened, and yet you<BR>&=
gt;&gt;&gt; pretend like nothing happened.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
I do not see anything disgusting in the template which<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; desc=
ribes real and barbaric atrocities commited by the UIA<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; and =
SS Galizien. To understand and cooperate, we have to<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; admit =
to what happened. And when I see suggestions that it<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; all is=
 the fault of the Poles, because a Ukrainian store was<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; robb=
ed in Warsaw some time in 1936, I do not see grounds for<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; co=
operation here.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;
 Tymek<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; --- On Tue, 9/15/09, O. G.<BR>&gt;&g=
t;&gt; &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dhilloc=
k@yahoo.ca" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>hillock@yahoo.ca</A>&gt; wrote:<=
BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; From: O. G. &lt;<A href=3D"=
http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dhillock@yahoo.ca" target=3D_=
blank rel=3Dnofollow>hillock@yahoo.ca</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: =
[WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinion about<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; him I think he =
is an asshole and I complained about him<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; To: "Wikipedia sta=
tistics"<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/c=
ompose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>folks@w=
ikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009,=
 12:49 AM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; No fucking way! I=
 just<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; "familiarized myself" with this article and am<BR>&gt=
;&gt;&gt; very
 tempted to write a series of articles on crimes<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; committed =
by Armia Krayova against Ukrainians. Does anyone<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; seriously =
think this article and this outrages and extremely<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; disgusti=
ng template <A href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Massacres_of_P=
oles" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:=
Massacres_of_Poles</A><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; is going to lead to any kind of unde=
rstanding and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; cooperation? What keeps me from joining Bandu=
rist is the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; fact that I am part of this cabal and I support=
 him<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; wholeheartedly.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; --- On=
 Tue, 9/15/09, Jack &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compos=
e?to=3Djacurek@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>jacurek@yahoo.com<=
/A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; From: J=
ack &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Djacurek@y=
ahoo.com"
 target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>jacurek@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &=
gt; Subject: Re: [WPM]<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Well.. whatever is your opinio=
n about him I think he is an<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; asshole and I complained about=
 him<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;<A href=3D"http://=
us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D_=
blank rel=3Dnofollow>folks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; R=
eceived: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 3:07 AM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I told y=
ou guys that Bandurist<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; is very problematic. Could our =
Ukrainian friends here<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; intervene please. Thank you.<BR=
>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Jacek<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&=
gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;=
 From: piotr<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; micula &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mai=
l.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank
 rel=3Dnofollow>basiaipiotr@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; To: Wiki=
pedia<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; statistics &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.y=
ahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnof=
ollow>folks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Sent: Monday,<BR=
>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; September 14, 2009<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;10:01:51 AM<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Subject: Re:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; [WPM] Well.. whatever i=
s your opinion about him I<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; think he<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; is=
 an asshole and I complained about him<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt=
;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Now there is a problem with the Pidkami=
n massacre<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; article. Basically, there is one Jim Sweene=
y, backed<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; by<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Bandurist, who seems to d=
emand references for each<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; word<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; there.
 It&nbsp;goes way too far now.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Ty=
mek<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Jack<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?=
to=3Djacurek@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>jacurek@yahoo.com</A=
>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&=
gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; From: Jack &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/m=
c/compose?to=3Djacurek@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>jacurek@ya=
hoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: [WPM] Well.. whatever is =
your opinion<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; about<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; him I think he is a=
n asshole and I complained about<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;him<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
&gt; To: "Wikipedia statistics"<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;<A href=3D"http://=
us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D_=
blank rel=3Dnofollow>folks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; D=
ate: Friday,
 September 11, 2009, 11:48 PM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>=
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Ofcourse it would work if he only talked to me<B=
R>&gt;&gt;&gt; instead<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; of deleting my comments from hi=
s talk page and<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; replacing it<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; ith a smi=
le face.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; He is an ass. This is what I think abut him a=
t the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; moment. Sorry.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Jack<BR>&gt;=
&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt=
;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; From: Andrei<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Dombay &lt;<A href=
=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dwikibiophys@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>wikibiophys@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 &gt; To: Wikipedia<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; statistics &lt;<A href=3D"http://u=
s.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D_b=
lank
 rel=3Dnofollow>folks@wikipedometer.net</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Sent: =
Friday,<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; September 11, 2009 8:57:56 PM<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; =
&gt; Subject: Re:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; [WPM] Well.. whatever is your opinio=
n about him I<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; think he<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; is an asshole a=
nd I complained about him<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Jack,<B=
R>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; I am not familiar with the article=
, but just looking<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; at<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; your diffs... Yo=
u both should&nbsp; agree to tell<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; somewhere<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 &gt; in the beginning of the article that the village/city<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;=
 was<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Polish before the war (use Polish name and Polish=
<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; voevodstvo), then it was occupied by Nazi - (use<BR>&=
gt;&gt;&gt; German name<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; - that is when the atrocities =
had happened), but<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; currently<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; it
 became Ukrainian (use Ukrainian name).<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Would<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t; &gt; it work? And let's blame Nazi - no matter if the<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Na=
zi<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; where German or<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&nbsp; Ukrainia=
n.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Andrei<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR=
>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt=
; &gt; On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;10:05 PM,<BR>&gt;&gt;&=
gt; &gt; Jack &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=
=3Djacurek@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>jacurek@yahoo.com</A>&=
gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<B=
R>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; <A href=3D"ht=
tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Issue_with_user_Band=
urist" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi=
a:Wikiquette_alerts#Issue_with_user_Bandurist</A>.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;
 &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt=
;&gt;&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt;&gt;&=
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