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Yea, you guys right, I tend to react too quickly. But Skapperod need to be =
dealt with eventually.=20

--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Martin <martint20@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] Sneaky blanking by Skapperod in Ko=C5=82obrzeg article (=
IMPORTANT)
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:12 AM


I read the AE report and it looks like a content dispute, so I agree
with Andres that restraint is needed here. Radek has done a good job
in his reply. If everyone piles on it will only look like teaming, and
that will only give a bruised Thatcher reason to sanction everyone.
---~~~~

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:13 AM, radek szulga<rsszulga@gmail.com> wrote:
> Loosemark also supported me.
>
> Yeah I think it's obvious that Skapperod is hoping to exploit the recent
> appeal and hopes to just stir up controversy, roll the die and hope for t=
he
> best. I said so much in my response but then took it out - probably bette=
r
> not to make the connection in admins minds. Though if someone else brings=
 it
> up then I will note this.
>
> Radek
>
>
> 2009/7/11 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 18:19, Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is TOTAL BS !!!
>>
>> Yes it is.
>>>
>>> Radek I will comment on it very soon. All our members should get involv=
ed
>>> here.
>>
>> Let's not be too hasty. =C2=A0The request is not put together too well; =
there's
>> a good chance it'll be rejected by an administrator who thinks it's "jus=
t
>> another of those silly Eastern European disputes".
>> I recommend that the development be closely watched, and if need be, we
>> should get involved over time, not all at once.
>> However, right now, only Radek has made a statement in his support.
>> =C2=A0Somebody else should support him, too, to let the administrator wh=
o shows
>> up know that it is not a "People v. Radek" case.
>> If there's too much dramu, somebody like Thatcher might eventually be th=
e
>> only administrator willing to take the thread. =C2=A0Somebody who thinks=
 he
>> should "do a lot of work" and then "sanction everybody who gave an evil =
eye
>> to the canary". =C2=A0Ideally, it should look like an easy case of an ob=
viously
>> frivolous complaint. =C2=A0Ideally, a random passing-by administrator sh=
ould not
>> be shied away from this thread, and should then hastily resolve it in fa=
vour
>> of Radek. =C2=A0Alas, achieving that is nontrivial :-(
>> Of course, if Jehochman shows up, generating a lot of dramu might be the
>> safe approach.
>> --
>> Andres Soolo
>>
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a, you guys right, I tend to react too quickly. But Skapperod need to be de=
alt with eventually. </SPAN></DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 7/11/09, Martin <I=
>&lt;martint20@gmail.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Martin &lt;martint20@gmail.com&gt;<BR>Subje=
ct: Re: [WPM] Sneaky blanking by Skapperod in Ko=C5=82obrzeg article (IMPOR=
TANT)<BR>To: "Wikipedia statistics" &lt;folks@wikipedometer.net&gt;<BR>Date=
: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 10:12 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>I read the AE report and it looks like a content dis=
pute, so I agree<BR>with Andres that restraint is needed here. Radek has do=
ne a good job<BR>in his reply. If everyone piles on it will only look like =
teaming, and<BR>that will only give a bruised Thatcher reason to sanction e=
veryone.<BR>---~~~~<BR><BR>On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 3:13 AM, radek szulga&lt=
;<A href=3D"http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Drsszulga@gmail.c=
om" ymailto=3D"mailto:rsszulga@gmail.com">rsszulga@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:=
<BR>&gt; Loosemark also supported me.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Yeah I think it's obv=
ious that Skapperod is hoping to exploit the recent<BR>&gt; appeal and hope=
s to just stir up controversy, roll the die and hope for the<BR>&gt; best. =
I said so much in my response but then took it out - probably better<BR>&gt=
; not to make the connection in admins minds. Though if someone else brings=
 it<BR>&gt; up then I will note this.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;
 Radek<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 2009/7/11 Digwuren &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.=
mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Ddigwuren@gmail.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; On S=
at, Jul 11, 2009 at 18:19, Jack &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.c=
om/mc/compose?to=3Djacurek@yahoo.com" ymailto=3D"mailto:jacurek@yahoo.com">=
jacurek@yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; This is TO=
TAL BS !!!<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Yes it is.<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&g=
t; Radek I will comment on it very soon. All our members should get involve=
d<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; here.<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Let's not be too hasty. &nb=
sp;The request is not put together too well; there's<BR>&gt;&gt; a good cha=
nce it'll be rejected by an administrator who thinks it's "just<BR>&gt;&gt;=
 another of those silly Eastern European disputes".<BR>&gt;&gt; I recommend=
 that the development be closely watched, and if need be, we<BR>&gt;&gt; sh=
ould
 get involved over time, not all at once.<BR>&gt;&gt; However, right now, o=
nly Radek has made a statement in his support.<BR>&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Somebody e=
lse should support him, too, to let the administrator who shows<BR>&gt;&gt;=
 up know that it is not a "People v. Radek" case.<BR>&gt;&gt; If there's to=
o much dramu, somebody like Thatcher might eventually be the<BR>&gt;&gt; on=
ly administrator willing to take the thread. &nbsp;Somebody who thinks he<B=
R>&gt;&gt; should "do a lot of work" and then "sanction everybody who gave =
an evil eye<BR>&gt;&gt; to the canary". &nbsp;Ideally, it should look like =
an easy case of an obviously<BR>&gt;&gt; frivolous complaint. &nbsp;Ideally=
, a random passing-by administrator should not<BR>&gt;&gt; be shied away fr=
om this thread, and should then hastily resolve it in favour<BR>&gt;&gt; of=
 Radek. &nbsp;Alas, achieving that is nontrivial :-(<BR>&gt;&gt; Of course,=
 if Jehochman shows up, generating a lot of dramu might be
 the<BR>&gt;&gt; safe approach.<BR>&gt;&gt; --<BR>&gt;&gt; Andres Soolo<BR>=
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt=
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