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This is a good idea. We each have different talents which are wasted
by simple edit warring. The biggest problem for us in the past is that
in many instances we act reactively to the edits of Offliner and
PasswordUsername, they insert something contentious, we revert, they
revert, etc, etc. I think they understand this and purposely insert
contentious text looking for that reaction and then reporting us.

Some of us are good researchers, other good at programming. I think
Andres mentioned having our own private Wikipedia (I can try to set up
a server to host it), where we could develop the most attacked
articles like [[Alexander Litvinenko]] in peace and without
interference.

Once an article has been sufficiently developed, other people could
then just update random sections of the real Wikipedia one sentence at
a time from our private Wikipedia. The updates would be done randomly
in sections unrelated to what the Cartel may be editing, so that it
would look like regular copy editing.

Eventually one or more of us could develop a diff merge tool (like one
may find in source control) where you can see both the real and
private wikipedia versions and selectively merge sentences and
paragraphs at the click of the button. This merging could go both
ways, so if some makes a good edit on the real wikipedia we could
merge it back into our private wikipedia.

Martin

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:14 PM, <PetersJV@aol.com> wrote:
> I trust that we don't lose anyone permanently. We do need good researchers!
> Perhaps a well written essay or two? Having an off-wiki wiki for article
> collaboration and content generation seems like the best long-term plan.
> There's a lot of content still awaiting development but it would be attacked
> before getting out of the gate if it were visible anywhere on WP.
>
> How much resource does a wiki require for a small community? I have a VPS
> which hosts LATVIANS.COM and a bunch of smaller sites. I could set up an
> "academic collaborative wiki" by password access only on LOBH.ORG perhaps?
> Well researched, written, annotated articles could be published there as
> white papers. It's not WP, but then no one will mercilessly change your
> content. Pen names would likely be advisable!
>
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