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If anyone wants direct evidence, here it is. Please read "Russian Foreign
Intelligence" section in my old page, and look at links there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Biophys&oldid=285155273

The WP:COI editing (by IP addresses) was so obvious (!), although that was
apparently someone from SVR human resources department ("otdel kadrov" in
Russian). Interestingly enough, Durova, who semi-protected this page after
my request, later complained that

"the FBI opened an investigation into months of death threats that were
being sent to me from a stable location within driving distance of my home"
(see here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Eastern_European_disputes#Observation_by_Durova

Let's think that was simply a coincidence.

Andrei



On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wrote:

> Yeltsin liked non-ordinary solutions. So, he wanted to give a sort-of
> goodbye blow to all the people that pissed him in his last 3-4 years in
> power, and make a nobody his successor. Now, if you take the nobodies with
> small to medium distance to Kremlin in late 1990s, and double check to
> exclude those that crossed Yeltsin, the percentage of former KGB officers
> was relatively high. Hense the result: Putin.
>
> BTW, thank you very much to Piotr for info about spyware protaction.
>
> Dorin
>
>
> 2009/4/29 Christian Suciu <christiansuciu@yahoo.com>
>
>> Interesting speculations, Andrei. One episode I think hasn't gotten a lot
>> of attention (at least on Wikipedia) is the link between the August 1998
>> financial crisis and the installation of Putin as prime minister just one
>> year later. What was the precise road that led from the crisis to Putin?
>> What later impact did the fall of many oligarchs in the crisis have? Didn't
>> insiders know there was going to be a collapse of the ruble, and what
>> significance did that have?
>> To go even further back, the 1996 election is interesting in that it
>> showed those in power (Yeltsin et al. they could manipulate the media to
>> win an election) - oh, but what glorious days those were compared to today:
>> a Russian President actually had to worry deeply about re-election, he faced
>> a hostile Duma, a vigorous press (including opposition TV stations)...
>>
>> This reminds me of the film [[Kiss Me Deadly]] - there's a hot, dangerous
>> core to all this - the apartment bombings being the work of the state,
>> almost - but not quite - too absurd to believe. Litvinenko knew the truth,
>> and he was killed for it. Politkovskaya was also getting dangerously close.
>> Who will be next?
>>
>>
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If anyone wants direct evidence, here it is. Please read &quot;Russian Fore=
ign Intelligence&quot; section in my old page, and look at links there: <br=
><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser:Biophys&am=
p;oldid=3D285155273">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser:Bioph=
ys&amp;oldid=3D285155273</a><br>
<br>The WP:COI editing (by IP addresses) was so obvious (!), although that =
was apparently someone from SVR human resources department (&quot;otdel kad=
rov&quot; in Russian). Interestingly enough, Durova, who semi-protected thi=
s page after my request, later complained that<br>
<br>&quot;the FBI opened an investigation into months of death threats that=
 were
being sent to me from a stable location within driving distance of my
home&quot; (see here <br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe=
dia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Eastern_European_disputes#Observation_by_=
Durova">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitratio=
n/Eastern_European_disputes#Observation_by_Durova</a><br>
<br>Let&#39;s think that was simply a coincidence.<br><br>Andrei<br><br>=A0=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Dorin C=
heptea <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.com">dor=
in.cheptea@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Yeltsin liked non=
-ordinary solutions. So, he wanted to give a sort-of goodbye blow to all th=
e people that pissed him in his last 3-4 years in power, and make a nobody =
his successor. Now, if you take the nobodies with small to medium distance =
to Kremlin in late 1990s, and double check to exclude those that crossed Ye=
ltsin, the percentage of former KGB officers was relatively high. Hense the=
 result: Putin.<br>

<br>BTW, thank you very much to Piotr for info about spyware protaction.<br=
><br>Dorin<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/4/29 Christian Suciu =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:christiansuciu@yahoo.com" target=3D=
"_blank">christiansuciu@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
><table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td sty=
le=3D"font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; fon=
t-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adju=
st: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign=3D"top">

Interesting speculations, Andrei. One episode I think hasn&#39;t gotten a l=
ot of attention (at least on Wikipedia) is the link between the August 1998=
 financial crisis and the installation of Putin as prime minister just one =
year later. What was the precise road that led from the crisis to Putin? Wh=
at later impact did the fall of many oligarchs in the crisis have? Didn&#39=
;t insiders know there was going to be a collapse of the ruble, and what si=
gnificance did that have?<div>

<br></div><div>To go even further back, the 1996 election is interesting in=
 that it showed those in power (Yeltsin <span style=3D"font-style: italic;"=
>et al.</span>=A0they could manipulate the media to win an election) - oh, =
but what glorious days those were compared to today: a Russian President ac=
tually had to worry deeply about re-election, he faced a hostile Duma, a
 vigorous press (including opposition TV stations)...</div><div><br></div><=
div>This reminds me of the film [[Kiss Me Deadly]] - there&#39;s a hot, dan=
gerous core to all this - the apartment bombings being the work of the stat=
e, almost - but not quite - too absurd to believe. Litvinenko knew the trut=
h, and he was killed for it. Politkovskaya was also getting dangerously clo=
se. Who will be next?=A0<img></div>

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