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	weapons in the last years (5-6 years ago Moldova "managed" to hit top 10
	>>> wolrd exporters of small weapons due to illegal trade in them from
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2009/3/14 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>

>  On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 18:37, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wr=
ote:
>
>>    As far as I heard Transnistria considerably reduced its export of
>>> weapons in the last years (5-6 years ago Moldova "managed" to hit top 1=
0
>>> wolrd exporters of small weapons due to illegal trade in them from
>>> Transnistria through Odessa).
>>>
>>
> That's an interesting point.  My understanding is that most of the weapon=
ry
> in Transnistria is a Russian stockpile.  Is that what they have been
> exporting, or are there any weaponry factories in Transnistria?
>

No, actually they produce small weapons locally. If I am not mistaken, the
main destination of "exports" were conflicts in Africa. Stockpiles... the
most "interesting" stuff has been sold already. But as I said, that was in
the past. Right now, 2/3 of their "budget revnue" comes from one factory,
the steel factory in R=EEbni=FEa (in the north of Transnistria). Without it=
,
they would be in big difficulty.


>
>  3) There is no SDI component in Romania. But there is potential in case
>> USA wants to expand it. There was speculations about this, but nothing
>> specific. Americans have one major air base in Romania, near the Black S=
ea
>> shore. It is generally used for transportation to and from the middle ea=
st.
>>
>
> A-ha!  As Russian involvement in closure of the USAF base in Kazakhstan
> shows, Russia is interested in constricting USA's influence in Asia.  If =
the
> base in Romania is a significant logistical support point for the Iraq
> operations, Russia might find disrupting its activities profitable,
> influence-wise.
>
>
Yes, but Romania is a member of NATO, Kazakhstan (or was it
Kyrgyzstan?) isn't. Disrupting it would be an atack on all 27 countries. An=
d
the psychological effect would be alienating the public oppinion even more.
The base is leased by Americans, Romanians only work there as
civilians. AFAIK, the current usage is not significant, mostly as a backup
and support, but the potential is much bigger in case some international
problems arrise. And it's safe, it is harder to mount terrorist acts in
Romania than say in Turkey.

Romania has a comparatively weak air force (uses other airports, not this
one), barely enough to man the air space patrol. The 100 or so Soviet-made
planes were to be replaced by a more modern fleet, costing $4 billion,
starting from next year. However, due to the crisis, this is now postponed
at least for a couple years if not more. Conclusion: if Russians want to
disrupt something, they have to use economic leverage, because whatever we
say the coutries of Eastern Europe are not economically strong yet.
Remember, 500 euros a month is a good salary in Romania, and most prices ar=
e
just as in the west. Statistically, that's the average, but nowadays averag=
e
is quite higher than the median.

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<br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/3/14 Digwuren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"im">On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 18:37, Dorin Cheptea <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">dori=
n.cheptea@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>As far as I heard Transnistria considerably reduced its export of weap=
ons in the last years (5-6 years ago Moldova &quot;managed&quot; to hit top=
 10 wolrd exporters of small weapons due to illegal trade in them from Tran=
snistria through Odessa).</div>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div></div>
<div>That&#39;s an interesting point. =A0My understanding is that most of t=
he weaponry in Transnistria is a Russian stockpile. =A0Is that what they ha=
ve been exporting, or are there any weaponry factories in Transnistria?</di=
v>
</div></blockquote>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>No, actually they produce small weapons locally. If I am not mistaken,=
 the main destination of &quot;exports&quot; were conflicts in Africa. Stoc=
kpiles...=A0the most=A0&quot;interesting&quot; stuff has been sold already.=
 But as I said, that was in the past. Right now, 2/3 of their &quot;budget =
revnue&quot; comes from one factory, the steel factory in R=EEbni=FEa (in t=
he north of Transnistria). Without it, they would be in big difficulty.</di=
v>

<div>=A0</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div><span id=3D""></span></div>
<div class=3D"im">
<div><br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<div>3) There is no SDI component in Romania. But there is potential in cas=
e USA wants to expand it. There was speculations about this, but nothing sp=
ecific. Americans have one major air base in Romania, near the Black Sea sh=
ore. It is generally used for transportation to and from the middle east.</=
div>
</blockquote>
<div><br></div></div>
<div>A-ha! =A0As Russian involvement in closure of the USAF base in Kazakhs=
tan shows, Russia is interested in constricting USA&#39;s influence in Asia=
. =A0If the base in Romania is a significant logistical support point for t=
he Iraq operations, Russia might find disrupting its activities profitable,=
 influence-wise.</div>

<div class=3D"im">
<div>=A0</div></div></div></blockquote>
<div>Yes, but Romania is a member of NATO, Kazakhstan (or was it Kyrgyzstan=
?)=A0isn&#39;t.=A0Disrupting it would be an atack on all 27 countries.=A0An=
d the psychological effect would be alienating the public oppinion even mor=
e. The base is leased by Americans, Romanians only work there as civilians.=
=A0AFAIK, the current usage is not=A0significant, mostly as a backup and su=
pport,=A0but the potential is much bigger in case some international proble=
ms arrise. And it&#39;s safe, it is harder to mount terrorist acts in Roman=
ia than say in Turkey.</div>
</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Romania has a comparatively weak air force (uses other airports, not t=
his one), barely enough to man the air space patrol. The 100 or so Soviet-m=
ade planes were to be replaced by a more modern fleet, costing $4 billion, =
starting from next year. However, due to the crisis, this is now postponed =
at least for a couple years if not more. Conclusion: if Russians want to di=
srupt something, they have to use economic leverage, because whatever we sa=
y the coutries of Eastern Europe are not economically strong yet. Remember,=
 500 euros a month is a good salary in Romania, and most prices are just as=
 in the west.=A0Statistically, that&#39;s the average, but nowadays average=
 is quite higher than the median.<br>
</div>

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