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	<wikibiophys@gmail.com> > One should also check this out: > > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soviet_war_crimes&curid=4751135&diff=311767110&oldid=311764778
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	about 630.000 >> colonists in annexed territories. Alltogether 2 milion
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	<wikibiophys@gmail.com> > One should also check this out: > > >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soviet_war_crimes&curid=4751135&diff=311767110&oldid=311764778
	> > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com>
	wrote: > >> I see that you are engaged in debate there. >> It might be
	worth mentioning that those events are often named population >>
	transfer rather then ethnic cleansing or genocide >> >> National
	minorities and the European nation-states system‎ Jennifer >> Jackson
	Preece - 1998 Population transfer Population transfers were also >>
	advocated and ... approved the forced transfer of 6.5 million ethnic
	Germans >> from Czechoslovakia, Poland, >> >> >> Expelling the Germans:
	British opinion and post-1945 population transfe >> Matthew James Frank
	- 2008 >> >> >> Europe and German unification‎ Renata Fritsch-Bournaz
	1992 The expulsion >> of Germans, who still numbered in the millions,
	... burden of this >> unprecedented population transfer was for the most
	part put on the West >> >> >> >> The article completely avoids
	mentioning colonists and occupational >> administration that were part
	of those removed: >> >> >>
	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_nazi_germany#German_colonization_and_settlement
	>> >> >> Which is about 400,000-500.000 personal for occupation and
	about 630.000 >> colonists in annexed territories. Alltogether 2 milion
	Germans by the end of >> the war in all Polish territories. All this is
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That should be restored as it reliably sourced. However this is not
connected to the subject I mentioned.

2009/9/4 Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>

> One should also check this out:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSoviet_war_crimes&curid=3D475=
1135&diff=3D311767110&oldid=3D311764778
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I see that you are engaged in debate there.
>> It might be worth mentioning that those events are often named populatio=
n
>> transfer rather then ethnic cleansing or genocide
>>
>> National minorities and the European nation-states system=E2=80=8E Jenni=
fer
>> Jackson Preece - 1998 Population transfer Population transfers were also
>> advocated and ... approved the forced transfer of 6.5 million ethnic Ger=
mans
>> from Czechoslovakia, Poland,
>>
>>
>> Expelling the Germans: British opinion and post-1945 population transfe
>> Matthew James Frank - 2008
>>
>>
>> Europe and German unification=E2=80=8E Renata Fritsch-Bournaz 1992 The e=
xpulsion
>> of Germans, who still numbered in the millions, ... burden of this
>> unprecedented population transfer was for the most part put on the West
>>
>>
>>
>> The article completely avoids mentioning colonists and occupational
>> administration that were part of those removed:
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_nazi_germany#German=
_colonization_and_settlement
>>
>>
>> Which is about 400,000-500.000 personal for occupation and about 630.000
>> colonists in annexed territories. Alltogether 2 milion Germans by the en=
d of
>> the war in all Polish territories. All this  is sourced in link above an=
d
>> can be copied.
>>
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That should be restored as it reliably sourced. However this is not connect=
ed to the subject I mentioned.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/4 A=
ndrei Dombay <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com"=
>wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">One should also c=
heck this out:<br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=
=3DSoviet_war_crimes&amp;curid=3D4751135&amp;diff=3D311767110&amp;oldid=3D3=
11764778" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSov=
iet_war_crimes&amp;curid=3D4751135&amp;diff=3D311767110&amp;oldid=3D3117647=
78</a><br>

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On Fri=
, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Molobo Molobo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:molobus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">molobus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>=
<div></div><div class=3D"h5">
I see that you are engaged in debate there.<br>It might be worth mentioning=
 that those events are often named population transfer rather then ethnic c=
leansing or genocide<br><br><p>National minorities and the European nation-=
states system=E2=80=8E Jennifer
Jackson Preece - 1998 Population transfer Population transfers were
also advocated and ... approved the forced transfer of 6.5 million
ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia, Poland,</p>
<p><br>
Expelling the Germans: British opinion and post-1945 population transfe Mat=
thew James Frank - 2008</p>
<p><br>
Europe and German unification=E2=80=8E Renata Fritsch-Bournaz 1992 The
expulsion of Germans, who still numbered in the millions, ... burden of
this unprecedented population transfer was for the most part put on the
West</p><p><br></p><p><br>The article completely avoids mentioning colonist=
s and occupational administration that were part of those removed:</p><p><a=
 href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_nazi_germany#=
German_colonization_and_settlement" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.o=
rg/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_nazi_germany#German_colonization_and_settle=
ment</a></p>


<p><br></p><p>Which is about 400,000-500.000 personal for occupation and ab=
out 630.000 colonists in annexed territories. Alltogether 2 milion Germans =
by the end of the war in all Polish territories. All this=C2=A0 is sourced =
in link above and can be copied.<br>


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