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	Martin <martint20@gmail.com> > Taking it to ANI is a bit risky, how
	about posting a complaint, > mentioning the four reverts to [[Monument
	at Lihula]], to > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rjanag > citing
	his promise to block PU if he edit wars again. > > > > On Sat, Sep 5,
	2009 at 6:09 AM, Sander Säde<sander.sade@gmail.com> wrote: > > AN/I is
	an excellent idea. Who wants the honor? > > > > S. > > > > On Fri, Sep
	4, 2009 at 10:32 PM, radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >
	>> I'd say combine it with the previous report and note the one filed
	for > >> "fence hugging" recently. Maybe take it to ANI rather than 3RR
	since 3RR > is > >> supposed to be preventative not punitive. > >> > >>
	Radek > >> > >> > >> 2009/9/4 Sander Säde <sander.sade@gmail.com> > >>>
	> >>> > >>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monument_of_Lihula&action=history
	> >>> - is self-reverting now an official way to escape edit-warring?
	Perhaps > >>> report anyway, as an obvious warrior > >>> > >>> S. > >>>
	> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Andrei Dombay
	<wikibiophys@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> See: > >>>> > >>>> >
	>>>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ramzan_Kadyrov&diff=311801535&oldid=308234496
	> >>>> > >>>> They react in a few minutes > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 4,
	2009 at 9:42 AM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: >
	>>>>> > >>>>> Edits of PU are telling. Why on the Earth a Russian
	nationalist or a > >>>>> pro-Soviet/pro-Communist editor would try to
	whitewash Ramzan > Kadyrov? > >>>>> > >>>>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ramzan_Kadyrov&action=history
	> >>>>> > >>>>> Because Kadyrov and his deeds are closely associated
	with Putin. > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a group of editors (PU, Russavia.
	ellol and Offliner > >>>>> including) who are neither pro-Russian
	nationalists (like DonaldDuck > and > >>>>> Ghirlandajo), nor
	pro-Soviet. They mostly care about anything related > to > >>>>> Putin
	and his administration, everything that paint them in negative > light.
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	Content preview:  Ha I just did - we're starting to think alike 2009/9/4
	Martin <martint20@gmail.com> > Taking it to ANI is a bit risky, how
	about posting a complaint, > mentioning the four reverts to [[Monument
	at Lihula]], to > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rjanag > citing
	his promise to block PU if he edit wars again. > > > > On Sat, Sep 5,
	2009 at 6:09 AM, Sander Säde<sander.sade@gmail.com> wrote: > > AN/I is
	an excellent idea. Who wants the honor? > > > > S. > > > > On Fri, Sep
	4, 2009 at 10:32 PM, radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >
	>> I'd say combine it with the previous report and note the one filed
	for > >> "fence hugging" recently. Maybe take it to ANI rather than 3RR
	since 3RR > is > >> supposed to be preventative not punitive. > >> > >>
	Radek > >> > >> > >> 2009/9/4 Sander Säde <sander.sade@gmail.com> > >>>
	> >>> > >>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Monument_of_Lihula&action=history
	> >>> - is self-reverting now an official way to escape edit-warring?
	Perhaps > >>> report anyway, as an obvious warrior > >>> > >>> S. > >>>
	> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Andrei Dombay
	<wikibiophys@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> See: > >>>> > >>>> >
	>>>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ramzan_Kadyrov&diff=311801535&oldid=308234496
	> >>>> > >>>> They react in a few minutes > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 4,
	2009 at 9:42 AM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: >
	>>>>> > >>>>> Edits of PU are telling. Why on the Earth a Russian
	nationalist or a > >>>>> pro-Soviet/pro-Communist editor would try to
	whitewash Ramzan > Kadyrov? > >>>>> > >>>>> >
	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ramzan_Kadyrov&action=history
	> >>>>> > >>>>> Because Kadyrov and his deeds are closely associated
	with Putin. > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a group of editors (PU, Russavia.
	ellol and Offliner > >>>>> including) who are neither pro-Russian
	nationalists (like DonaldDuck > and > >>>>> Ghirlandajo), nor
	pro-Soviet. They mostly care about anything related > to > >>>>> Putin
	and his administration, everything that paint them in negative > light.
	> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, [...] 
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Ha I just did - we're starting to think alike

2009/9/4 Martin <martint20@gmail.com>

> Taking it to ANI is a bit risky, how about posting a complaint,
> mentioning the four reverts to [[Monument at Lihula]], to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rjanag
> citing his promise to block PU if he edit wars again.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Sander S=E4de<sander.sade@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> > AN/I is an excellent idea. Who wants the honor?
> >
> > S.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:32 PM, radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd say combine it with the previous report and note the one filed for
> >> "fence hugging" recently. Maybe take it to ANI rather than 3RR since 3=
RR
> is
> >> supposed to be preventative not punitive.
> >>
> >> Radek
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/4 Sander S=E4de <sander.sade@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DMonument_of_Lihula&action=3Dh=
istory
> >>> - is self-reverting now an official way to escape edit-warring? Perha=
ps
> >>> report anyway, as an obvious warrior
> >>>
> >>> S.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> See:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ramzan_Kadyrov&diff=3D31=
1801535&oldid=3D308234496
> >>>>
> >>>> They react in a few minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com=
>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Edits of PU are  telling. Why on the Earth a Russian nationalist or=
 a
> >>>>> pro-Soviet/pro-Communist editor would try to whitewash Ramzan
> Kadyrov?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DRamzan_Kadyrov&action=3Dhisto=
ry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Because Kadyrov and his deeds are closely associated with Putin.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is a group of editors (PU, Russavia. ellol and Offliner
> >>>>> including) who are neither pro-Russian nationalists (like DonaldDuc=
k
> and
> >>>>> Ghirlandajo), nor pro-Soviet. They mostly care about anything relat=
ed
> to
> >>>>> Putin and his administration, everything that paint them in negativ=
e
> light.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Jack <jacurek@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Looks that he was lucky again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Martin <martint20@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: [WPM] PU escapes clear 3RR violation
> >>>>>> To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 8:13 PM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What a joke. Some newbie admin (only joined Wikipedia a year ago)
> lets
> >>>>>> him off with a warning, then promptly archived the report
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit=
_warring#User:PasswordUsername_reported_by_User:Martintg_.28Result:_Warned.=
29
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And I end up getting a warning too!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Martin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Wikipedia statistics discussion list
> >>>>>> folks@wikipedometer.net
> >>>>>> http://wikipedometer.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/folks
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> >>>>
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Ha I just did - we&#39;re starting to think alike<br><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">2009/9/4 Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@=
gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Taking it to ANI is a bit risky, how about posting a complaint,<br>
mentioning the four reverts to [[Monument at Lihula]], to<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rjanag" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rjanag</a><br>
citing his promise to block PU if he edit wars again.<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Sander S=E4de&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sander.s=
ade@gmail.com">sander.sade@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; AN/I is an excellent idea. Who wants the honor?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; S.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:32 PM, radek szulga &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rs=
szulga@gmail.com">rsszulga@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;d say combine it with the previous report and note the one f=
iled for<br>
&gt;&gt; &quot;fence hugging&quot; recently. Maybe take it to ANI rather th=
an 3RR since 3RR is<br>
&gt;&gt; supposed to be preventative not punitive.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Radek<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 2009/9/4 Sander S=E4de &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sander.sade@gmail.com=
">sander.sade@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DMonumen=
t_of_Lihula&amp;action=3Dhistory" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org=
/w/index.php?title=3DMonument_of_Lihula&amp;action=3Dhistory</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; - is self-reverting now an official way to escape edit-warring=
? Perhaps<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; report anyway, as an obvious warrior<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; S.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; See:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTal=
k:Ramzan_Kadyrov&amp;diff=3D311801535&amp;oldid=3D308234496" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Ramzan_Kadyrov&amp;dif=
f=3D311801535&amp;oldid=3D308234496</a><br>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; They react in a few minutes<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Edits of PU are=A0 telling. Why on the Earth a Russian=
 nationalist or a<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; pro-Soviet/pro-Communist editor would try to whitewash=
 Ramzan Kadyrov?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=
=3DRamzan_Kadyrov&amp;action=3Dhistory" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikiped=
ia.org/w/index.php?title=3DRamzan_Kadyrov&amp;action=3Dhistory</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Because Kadyrov and his deeds are closely associated w=
ith Putin.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; There is a group of editors (PU, Russavia. ellol and O=
ffliner<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; including) who are neither pro-Russian nationalists (l=
ike DonaldDuck and<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ghirlandajo), nor pro-Soviet. They mostly care about a=
nything related to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Putin and his administration, everything that paint th=
em in negative light.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Jack &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jacurek@yahoo.com">jacurek@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Looks that he was lucky again.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --- On Thu, 9/3/09, Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m=
artint20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail=
.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [WPM] PU escapes clear 3RR violation<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: &quot;Wikipedia statistics&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:folks@wikipedometer.net">folks@wikipedometer.net</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 8:13 PM<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What a joke. Some newbie admin (only joined Wikipe=
dia a year ago) lets<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; him off with a warning, then promptly archived the=
 report<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:=
Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:PasswordUsername_reported_b=
y_User:Martintg_.28Result:_Warned.29" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia=
.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Passwor=
dUsername_reported_by_User:Martintg_.28Result:_Warned.29</a><br>

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And I end up getting a warning too!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Martin<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br=
>
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