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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:51:54 -0500
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From: radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
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A lot of this comes just from the fact that the sock puppet always
can't help themselves and end up being very topic specific. At the end
of the day the whole content analysis thing is just sloppily done
regression analysis (actually seeing Avi involved in this whole thing,
and his comments about pasting stuff into excel but then finding a
better method, makes me wonder if regression is actually the tool that
is used by the clerks to make their decisions - if so, that's sort of
sad/bad) and the way to beat that is to throw in lots of noise into
the data so that no correlation comes out significant. And that means
just taking the time to edit completely random articles totally
unrelated to the sock master's area of interest. Basically something
like, every other day clicking the "random article" link, taking
whatever shows up, doing a quick web/google books search on it and
making even a minor edit. It's extra work but no one said sock
puppeting is easy.
What's harder to hide (and I think this is what clinched the case
against Molobo) is the temporal correlations - in Molobo's case the
fact that his and Gwinn's edits were always hours apart (and I think
here the secret evidence basically just suggested some kind of
home/work split). That's where a sock-buddy can help as both the
master and the puppet can edit at the same time. Too much of this can
probably get suspicious too though.

Radek


2009/6/1 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
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>> Which means that either a proxy is needed, or the behaviour must be such
>> that a technical checkuser will never raise. =A0Or preferrably, both.
>
> We have to assume that a checkuser will happen - Murphy's Law...
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