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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:52:29 -0500
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From: radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
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	Content preview: I also think this is a pretty minor issue and pushing
	it
	too hard may well prove counter productive. I'm also inclined to think, 
	based on IPN statements, that the Bielskis really didn't have anything
	to do with Naliboki and if you read Nechama Tec's book it's actually
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	like Boodles around this isn't actually that hard and cooperation comes
	about naturally. It'd be nice if and when Boodles comes back, he finds
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	all the battles before - I don't think this is realistic with respect
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	up and causing a lot of trouble that we just don't want to deal with due
	to lack of time and the undesirability of fighting on multiple fronts at
	once. Basically I think it's a good idea to minimize potential conflicts
	in the Polish-Jewish relations area now, and without agent provocateurs
	like Boodles around this isn't actually that hard and cooperation comes
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I also think this is a pretty minor issue and pushing it too hard may
well prove counter productive.  I'm also inclined to think, based on
IPN statements, that the Bielskis really didn't have anything to do
with Naliboki and if you read Nechama Tec's book it's actually pretty
favorable towards Poles (notes Tuvia's close friendship with the
Polish AK commander in the region and the strains that relationship
was put under due to the arrival of the Soviet partisans).
One related issue here to think about for the future - Boodlesthecat's
year block's going to expire in the fall and that guy's capable of
really stirring things up and causing a lot of trouble that we just
don't want to deal with due to lack of time and the undesirability of
fighting on multiple fronts at once. Basically I think it's a good
idea to minimize potential conflicts in the Polish-Jewish relations
area now, and without agent provocateurs like Boodles around this
isn't actually that hard and cooperation comes about naturally. It'd
be nice if and when Boodles comes back, he finds himself without the
support of other editors that he dragged along into all the battles
before - I don't think this is realistic with respect to Moordoor but
others, like Malik Shabazz, seem like reasonable fellows.

Radek


2009/6/21 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>:
> Digwuren wrote:
>
>> I have no idea about the articles in question. =A0Thus, by Wikipedia's
>> standards, I'm evidently qualified to offer advice.
>>
>> Charges being dropped is sometimes an indication that they were brought
>> by mistake in the first place. =A0Unless the charges themselves have
>> become notable in their own right, it makes sense for an encyclop=E6dia =
to
>> skip them, or only mention them very briefly. =A0In Wikipedia's terms,
>> undue weight to charges that have been dropped may constitute a BLP
>> violation.
>>
>> Unfortunately, if charges are notable or not is considerably vague a
>> subject, depend to a lot of editorial discretion.
>
> The issues was settled out of court. This is all explained on talk, I
> think it is a case of BLP censorship and the article got the bad luck of
> being "adopted" by some BLP-censorship fans. I don't think it has much
> to do with the ethnicity of the person. In any case, I consider this
> issue relatively unimportant (who cares about Aron, really...), other
> than a sad illustration of how BLP can in fact make some biographies
> misleading.
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> theory."
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