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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:03:02 +1000
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From: Martin <martint20@gmail.com>
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	Content preview:  On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Dorin
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	really hard to get Russavia removed as well - > Thatcher told him no,
	since Russavia was banned under the case but said that > some other
	admin could remove it - so he's gone to Sandstein. > At this point I'm
	not sure if commenting on it (say, by pointing out > Thatcher's
	reasoning) would help or hurt. > > Radek > > Might as well jump on the
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	> > Dig > > If Russavia's restrictions are lifted, then even from their
	POV Dig's surely > should be lifted, too. I personally wouldn't jump to
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	Content preview:  On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Dorin
	Cheptea<dorin.cheptea@gmail.com> wrote: > Note that Offliner's lobbying
	really hard to get Russavia removed as well - > Thatcher told him no,
	since Russavia was banned under the case but said that > some other
	admin could remove it - so he's gone to Sandstein. > At this point I'm
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	> frustration over disruptive arbitration before anybody restricted me.
	> > Dig > > If Russavia's restrictions are lifted, then even from their
	POV Dig's surely > should be lifted, too. I personally wouldn't jump to
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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Dorin Cheptea<dorin.cheptea@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> Note that Offliner's lobbying really hard to get Russavia removed as well=
 -
> Thatcher told him no, since Russavia was banned under the case but said t=
hat
> some other admin could remove it - so he's gone to Sandstein.
> At this point I'm not sure if commenting on it (say, by pointing out
> Thatcher's reasoning) would help or hurt.
>
> Radek
>
> Might as well jump on the bandwagon and ask Thatcher to remove your
>
> restrictions.
>
> Piotr
>
> Except that this would undermine my point that I left Wikipedia out of
> frustration over disruptive arbitration before anybody restricted me.
>
> Dig
>
> If Russavia's restrictions are lifted, then=A0even from their POV=A0Dig's=
 surely
> should be lifted, too. I personally wouldn't jump to make a common front
> with the cartel even on technicalities. I'd rather let the "canvasing"
> impression be related to Offliner and Russavia's names.

Offliner and PasswordUsername are a regular clown show, I agree about
not jumping in, let them continue with the show. I just corrected
PasswordUsername's assertion that Russiavia never received a block on
Sandstein's talk, but did not advocate either way. Let's see how this
see how this pans out. I'm still planning to submit a request to
change the name of that ArbCom case soon, citing Jehochmann's
animosity (and his admonishment by FloNight), the various blocks that
have been applied by trigger happy admins but undone by community
concensus, etc. An appeal to lift Dig's 1RR restriction could be
incorporated into it particularly if it is seen to be tied to
persuading Dig to return.

In any case we all have to be really careful about reverting now

-- =

Regards,
Martin

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