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I hope you realize that "criminals" can not get and transport that kind of
weapons without a direct order from Russian government ( a bribe would not
suffice). The legendary Bout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout)
worked with the approval from the very top. Hence they covered him when
needed.

Whatever it was, that was a government-planned operation from the begining.
We only do not know what it really was. Maybe chemical weapons for Hisballah
to attack Israel, maybe rockets for North Korea to attack US.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:

> To me it looks like a major fubar(if the S-300 are not a cover story in
> itself) on part on Russian state. Probably somebody got bribed to get S-300
> missiles to Iran, Russian services got the news about it, but Putin decided
> in usual Russian fashion that Russia won't be blamed for actions of
> criminals and the thing can be secret anyway, Mossad got the news, informed
> USA and Russia about this, international scandal was in progress forcing
> Russians to act.
>
> If the S-300 are a cover story though we will never know what happened.
>
> 2009/9/7 Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
>
> Here it sis:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Arctic_Sea
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 20:30, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are there any sources for this? It should be in the article.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.  I think I've seen almost all of these (and more -- such as the ship
>>> using a North Korean callsign at a time) in reliable news.
>>>
>>> But considering that the significance of this series of events is
>>> mysterious at best and Russian propaganda channels are obviously doing
>>> *something* about it, I would say this topic is not worth a Wikipedia
>>> battle.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andres Soolo
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I hope you realize that &quot;criminals&quot; can not get and transport tha=
t kind of weapons without a direct order from Russian government ( a bribe =
would not suffice). The legendary Bout (<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/=
wiki/Viktor_Bout">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Bout</a>) worked with=
 the approval from the very top. Hence they covered him when needed.<br>
<br>Whatever it was, that was a government-planned operation from the begin=
ing. We only do not know what it really was. Maybe chemical weapons for His=
ballah to attack Israel, maybe rockets for North Korea to attack US.=A0 =A0=
 =A0  <br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Molobo Molob=
o <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bor=
der-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-=
left: 1ex;">
To me it looks like a major fubar(if the S-300 are not a cover story in its=
elf) on part on Russian state. Probably somebody got bribed to get S-300 mi=
ssiles to Iran, Russian services got the news about it, but Putin decided i=
n usual Russian fashion that Russia won&#39;t be blamed for actions of crim=
inals and the thing can be secret anyway, Mossad got the news, informed USA=
 and Russia about this, international scandal was in progress forcing Russi=
ans to act.<br>

<br>If the S-300 are a cover story though we will never know what happened.=
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/9/7 Andrei Dombay <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wikibiophys=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Here it sis:<br><=
br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Arctic_Sea" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Arctic_Sea</a><br>

<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at =
1:28 PM, Digwuren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div>=
<div></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 20:3=
0, Piotr Konieczny <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
r>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Are there any sources for this? It should be in the article.</div></bl=
ockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Yes. =A0I think I&#39;ve seen almost all=
 of these (and more -- such as the ship using a North Korean callsign at a =
time) in reliable news.</div>



<div><br></div><div>But considering that the significance of this series of=
 events is mysterious at best and Russian propaganda channels are obviously=
 doing *something* about it, I would say this topic is not worth a Wikipedi=
a battle.</div>



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