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Would it be a good idea to summarise the migration patterns in the article?
Perhaps throw in a remark or two about the Mari people's ancient homelands?

"Ancient Russian lands" is a dog-whistle phrase of late Soviet
historiography, but ironically, a lot of the "ancient Russian lands" were
only populated by proto-Russians in the last millennium.  Before that, some
of them were rather void of human inhabitation but others had native
presence -- and in Western Siberia, that native presence was often
Fenno-Ugric tribes.

As for more recent migration patterns, the Dear Reader might like to know
that migration from Russia to Estonia has been exceeding migration from
Estonia to Russia for a long time, even if the deportations are taken into
account.  Hinting at but *not mentioning* the question of "more appreciable
living environment" may be a useful tool in winning the more important
battles.  For example, if Russavia were to counter by a story about how
Soviet authorities preferentially invested in developing the Baltic area,
thus making it a more desirable place to live (as Cmapm once did), the
issues of fact were to inevitably come to play, and facts are not his strong
suit.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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Would it be a good idea to summarise the migration patterns in the article?=
=C2=A0 Perhaps throw in a remark or two about the Mari people&#39;s ancient=
 homelands?<br><br>&quot;Ancient Russian lands&quot; is a dog-whistle phras=
e of late Soviet historiography, but ironically, a lot of the &quot;ancient=
 Russian lands&quot; were only populated by proto-Russians in the last mill=
ennium.=C2=A0 Before that, some of them were rather void of human inhabitat=
ion but others had native presence -- and in Western Siberia, that native p=
resence was often Fenno-Ugric tribes.<br>
<br>As for more recent migration patterns, the Dear Reader might like to kn=
ow that migration from Russia to Estonia has been exceeding migration from =
Estonia to Russia for a long time, even if the deportations are taken into =
account.=C2=A0 Hinting at but *not mentioning* the question of &quot;more a=
ppreciable living environment&quot; may be a useful tool in winning the mor=
e important battles.=C2=A0 For example, if Russavia were to counter by a st=
ory about how Soviet authorities preferentially invested in developing the =
Baltic area, thus making it a more desirable place to live (as Cmapm once d=
id), the issues of fact were to inevitably come to play, and facts are not =
his strong suit.<br clear=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>

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