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With regard to the diff (Mikkalai statement). He said he left SU in 1980s.
No one was able to leave Soviet Union in 1980s without KGB approval. I coul=
d
move to US only in 1992 by  buying second passport  and leaving another
passport in the Russian Academy of Science department of Foreign Affairs,
which still was basically a KGB department (they would not give the passpor=
t
to me at that time).

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> Yes, that is another person who did not hide his former KGB affiliation. =
It
> is him based on his edit history:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSpecial:Contributions&dir=3Dp=
rev&limit=3D500&target=3DAltenmann
>
> He decided to change his identity once again. Why? I only know that he
> worked for the
> Soviet KGB as a computer expert. At least he said so:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk:Biophys&diff=3D1197=
78603&oldid=3D118773171
>
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is rather conclusive:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Requests_for_arbit=
ration&diff=3Dprev&oldid=3D180844844
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > He is Mikkalai.
>> >
>> > He reverted his own edit, which was noted as SemBubenny in the revisio=
n
>> history:
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DT=F5nu_Trubetsky&action=3D=
history<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DT%C3%B5nu_Trubetsky&act=
ion=3Dhistory>
>> >
>> > I know SemBubenny is Mikkalai.
>> >
>> > Martin
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Who is Altenmann and why has he been systematically editing articles =
I
>> have
>> >> recently edited, including a reversal on [[Tsarist autocracy]] and
>> removal
>> >> of the merge tags for [[Finnish Anti-Fascist Committee]] ->
>> [[Anti-Estonian
>> >> sentiment]] ?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Andres Soolo
>> >>
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With regard to the diff (Mikkalai statement). He said he left SU in 1980s. =
No one was able to leave Soviet Union in 1980s without KGB approval. I coul=
d move to US only in 1992 by=A0 buying second passport=A0 and leaving anoth=
er passport in the Russian Academy of Science department of Foreign Affairs=
, which still was basically a KGB department (they would not give the passp=
ort to me at that time). <br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Andrei Domba=
y <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophy=
s@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
padding-left: 1ex;">
Yes, that is another person who did not hide his former KGB affiliation. It=
 is him based on his edit history: <br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.o=
rg/w/index.php?title=3DSpecial:Contributions&amp;dir=3Dprev&amp;limit=3D500=
&amp;target=3DAltenmann" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.=
php?title=3DSpecial:Contributions&amp;dir=3Dprev&amp;limit=3D500&amp;target=
=3DAltenmann</a><br>

<br>He decided to change his identity once again. Why? I only know that he =
worked for the<br>Soviet KGB as a computer expert. At least he said so:<br>=
<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk:Biophy=
s&amp;diff=3D119778603&amp;oldid=3D118773171" target=3D"_blank">http://en.w=
ikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser_talk:Biophys&amp;diff=3D119778603&amp=
;oldid=3D118773171</a><div>
<div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Martin <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">m=
artint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

This is rather conclusive:<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Requests_f=
or_arbitration&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D180844844" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration=
&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D180844844</a><br>


<div><br>
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div>&gt; He is Mikkalai.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; He reverted his own edit, which was noted as SemBubenny in the revisio=
n history:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DT%C3%B5nu_Trube=
tsky&amp;action=3Dhistory" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/inde=
x.php?title=3DT=F5nu_Trubetsky&amp;action=3Dhistory</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I know SemBubenny is Mikkalai.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Martin<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Digwuren &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwure=
n@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Who is Altenmann and why has he been systematically editing articl=
es I have<br>
&gt;&gt; recently edited, including a reversal on [[Tsarist autocracy]] and=
 removal<br>
&gt;&gt; of the merge tags for [[Finnish Anti-Fascist Committee]] -&gt; [[A=
nti-Estonian<br>
&gt;&gt; sentiment]] ?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Andres Soolo<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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