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Yes, he has communication problems and sometimes behave irrationally.  But I
talked with him just fine when he was Hanzo. He  is a nice man although
often not responsive.  I wonder that  he probably had/has some serious
problems in personal life based on articles he edits and his talk. Not much
can be done here.



On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:

> Andrei Dombay wrote:
> > BTW, watch carefully after this guy:
> >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ostateczny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji
> >
> > That is our friend HanzoHattori. Try NOT to contact him, as not to bring
> > attention of the Russian team.  He has email - use email if you need to
> > contact him.
> >
> > He usually does  technical edits. What a hell they blocked him?
>
> He couldn't keep his mouth shut, nor be smart when it comes to NPA:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_proposed
> Calling figures in powers (admins...) fags and idiots is never a good
> strategy.
>
> Alex (!) proposed unbanning of him but it didn't pass (I supported it):
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive470#Productive_socks
>
> Interestingly, editors who were supportive with his ban and are pursuing
> his socks include Jehochmann and Russavia.
>
> I don't know what can be done about Hanzo (one could try to propose
> unbanning again, if we can cite good work done by him, but really, he
> should be the one working towards that - and he never replied to my
> proposal on his talk page to discuss his unbanning), but at the very
> least we may learn something from his persistence.
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> theory."
>
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Yes, he has communication problems and sometimes behave irrationally.=A0 Bu=
t I talked with him just fine when he was Hanzo. He=A0 is a nice man althou=
gh often not responsive.=A0 I wonder that=A0 he probably had/has some serio=
us problems in personal life based on articles he edits and his talk. Not m=
uch can be done here.<br>
<br>=A0<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:28 PM, =
Piotr Konieczny <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Andrei Dombay wrote:<br>
&gt; BTW, watch carefully after this guy:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ostatecz=
ny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki=
/Special:Contributions/Ostateczny_Krach_Systemu_Korporacji</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; That is our friend HanzoHattori. Try NOT to contact him, as not to bri=
ng<br>
&gt; attention of the Russian team. =A0He has email - use email if you need=
 to<br>
&gt; contact him.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; He usually does =A0technical edits. What a hell they blocked him?<br>
<br>
</div>He couldn&#39;t keep his mouth shut, nor be smart when it comes to NP=
A:<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeb=
oard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_proposed" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia=
.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive362#Ban_pr=
oposed</a><br>

Calling figures in powers (admins...) fags and idiots is never a good<br>
strategy.<br>
<br>
Alex (!) proposed unbanning of him but it didn&#39;t pass (I supported it):=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeb=
oard/IncidentArchive470#Productive_socks" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikip=
edia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive470#Pr=
oductive_socks</a><br>

<br>
Interestingly, editors who were supportive with his ban and are pursuing<br=
>
his socks include Jehochmann and Russavia.<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know what can be done about Hanzo (one could try to propose<br>
unbanning again, if we can cite good work done by him, but really, he<br>
should be the one working towards that - and he never replied to my<br>
proposal on his talk page to discuss his unbanning), but at the very<br>
least we may learn something from his persistence.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
--<br>
Piotr Konieczny<br>
<br>
&quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
<br>
theory.&quot;<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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t<br>
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