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I agree that Offliner is a bigger threat, Russavia appears to have
settled down quite a bit, while Offliner continues to agitate on admin
and regular user talk pages. I think Piotr is right, the best thing to
do is to continue to collect diffs until some opportunity arises.
Eventually he will make a mistake like Petri Krohn did.

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course he was incivil as described here
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement/Archive37#Discretionary_sanctions_requested
>
> and he simply repeated the threat by Khron. But you hardly can do anything
> with him. From my perspective, Offliner is much worse than Russavia; he
> already made significant damage to a number of Russia-related articles.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Christian Suciu <christiansuciu@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> He made some extremely incivil comments in the ANI thread on Krohn (where,
>> incidentally, he rather chillingly repeats the Kremlin line: "The new laws
>> being introduced in Russia will make people like Digwuren a target; not for
>> assassination, or other such tripe, but for targetting by these laws against
>> people who try to rewrite history as is seen every day in the Baltics, and
>> right here on Wikipedia"). Also, Martin, you'll recall he made some
>> offensive, sexually-charged remarks about you twice. And he's doubtless made
>> incivil comments about Digwuren. Could "incivility" rather than
>> "POV-pushing" prove his Achilles' heel?
>> ***
>> For those following the ongoing Korea crisis with interest, there's also a
>> Russia angle:
>> http://freekorea.us/2009/05/29/what-leverage-does-russia-have/
>>
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