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OK, I decided to retire from WP for the time being, in part due to the
constant attacks and WP stress, in part due to personal reasons, like work
and relations.

I made a few last notices, and I will be gone for a long time, at least from
the Russian politics section. If I ever to reappear under a different name,
I would edit only Biology and Physics.



On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl> wrote:

> radek szulga wrote:
>
> >  If I don't do
> > the vanish then I could also do some copy vio clean up with Moonridden
> > girl which might create another potential supporter (in a narrow
> > sense) or something similar.
>
> Cultivating a relationship with her is a good idea, as you can ask her
> later if she would nominate you for adminship. A nomination from her
> will be much less controversial/under the radar than one coming from me.
>
> > How grueling are these processes? I recall from somewhere that a
> > single block can disqualify you in the eyes of some. And of course I'm
> > What happened when Halibutt tried for admin?
>
> He got very close - IIRC he needed 75% and got like 72.5%. He got
> annoyed at flame from Lithuanians team, baited (?) and did some really
> stupid edit warring / POINT edits which sunk him as a future candidate.
> Lesson: don't loose your cool, and pray that enemy tag teams don't spot
> the nom.
>
> > The major obstacle however is that I'm simply not sure if I want to do
> > it. Being an admin looks like a lot of work, less time spend on
> > content creation (which is what I like doing the most) and other forms
> > of pain in the ass.
>
> That's a common misconception. RfAdm requires an initial investement in
> the week of the nomination (timely replies to raised questions and such)
> but as soon as you pass, you are free. Admins are never checked up on
> what they do. Heck, inactive admins still retain their admin flag even
> if the leave the project... once you are an admin, you must really and
> ACTIVELY mess up to lose it. I do hardly any "admin" work regularly - I
> rollback some vandalism I stumble upon, delete an occasional page, and
> that's it :) Of course I do more in Wikispace than many, but that's just
> my interests - I could do CfD or RfC stuff if I was a regular user, too,
> I just find them interesting.
>
> > Since I wouldn't be able to do it this summer anyway I'm just going to
> > mull over it for a few weeks.
>
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> theory."
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<br>OK, I decided to retire from WP for the time being, in part due to the =
constant attacks and WP stress, in part due to personal reasons, like work =
and relations.=A0 <br><br>I made a few last notices, and I will be gone for=
 a long time, at least from the Russian politics section. If I ever to reap=
pear under a different name, I would edit only Biology and Physics.<br>
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Pio=
tr Konieczny <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204,=
 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">radek szulga wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; =A0If I don&#39;t do<br>
&gt; the vanish then I could also do some copy vio clean up with Moonridden=
<br>
&gt; girl which might create another potential supporter (in a narrow<br>
&gt; sense) or something similar.<br>
<br>
</div>Cultivating a relationship with her is a good idea, as you can ask he=
r<br>
later if she would nominate you for adminship. A nomination from her<br>
will be much less controversial/under the radar than one coming from me.<br=
>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; How grueling are these processes? I recall from somewhere that a<br>
&gt; single block can disqualify you in the eyes of some. And of course I&#=
39;m<br>
&gt; What happened when Halibutt tried for admin?<br>
<br>
</div>He got very close - IIRC he needed 75% and got like 72.5%. He got<br>
annoyed at flame from Lithuanians team, baited (?) and did some really<br>
stupid edit warring / POINT edits which sunk him as a future candidate.<br>
Lesson: don&#39;t loose your cool, and pray that enemy tag teams don&#39;t =
spot<br>
the nom.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; The major obstacle however is that I&#39;m simply not sure if I want t=
o do<br>
&gt; it. Being an admin looks like a lot of work, less time spend on<br>
&gt; content creation (which is what I like doing the most) and other forms=
<br>
&gt; of pain in the ass.<br>
<br>
</div>That&#39;s a common misconception. RfAdm requires an initial investem=
ent in<br>
the week of the nomination (timely replies to raised questions and such)<br=
>
but as soon as you pass, you are free. Admins are never checked up on<br>
what they do. Heck, inactive admins still retain their admin flag even<br>
if the leave the project... once you are an admin, you must really and<br>
ACTIVELY mess up to lose it. I do hardly any &quot;admin&quot; work regular=
ly - I<br>
rollback some vandalism I stumble upon, delete an occasional page, and<br>
that&#39;s it :) Of course I do more in Wikispace than many, but that&#39;s=
 just<br>
my interests - I could do CfD or RfC stuff if I was a regular user, too,<br=
>
I just find them interesting.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Since I wouldn&#39;t be able to do it this summer anyway I&#39;m just =
going to<br>
&gt; mull over it for a few weeks.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>--<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">Piotr Konieczny<br>
<br>
&quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
<br>
theory.&quot;<br>
<br>
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