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To be sure, create the new account when under no restriction. Then, I
totally agree with you, provided that the old account is discarded (no
longer used).
However note, that if you plan to apply for adminship, it is honest to list
all WP activity of all accounts. They expect you to do that. If you are
discovered later, they can't ban you, but they can de-sysop you.

Another thing: if you are using a computer at work, you can claim that
another person had the same desk and computer before you, and probably that
person had also a WP account. If account 1 and account 2 have the same IP
but never overlap timely, it could be explained with this. In that case you
can even apply for sysop-ship and not list the other account.

However, please be careful about alternative ways of checkuser: language
comparison, preferred articles, etc, etc. Also, the new account should not
look experienced the first few months. It is quite a lot of work.

2009/7/4 Martin <martint20@gmail.com>

> I may be wrong, and Piotr could correct me, but there is nothing in
> policy specifically against serial accounts. It only becomes an issue
> if the original account was perma-banned or otherwise evading a
> sanction, or multiple accounts used simultaneously in vote stacking or
> revert warring. But if a new account is created every few months and
> the old account discarded in a serial fashion, then I don't see that
> there would be a problem.
>
> Martin
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Digwuren<digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 03:54, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> OK, I made a comment. Unfortunately, Russavia came too.
> >
> > This is an incentive for changing accounts almost as often as socks.
>  Since
> > Wikipedia values newbies more highly than people who have been "involved
> in
> > wikidrama", frequent account changes are favoured by the existing
> framework
> > as a way to get rid of the sticky mud.
> > Frequent account-changes tend to throw off track both slow-acting DDR
> such
> > as arbcom *and* stalkers.  The main risk is that some or all of the
> accounts
> > may be labelled as sock puppets of each other or somebody else, and
> > summarily blocked.
> > --
> > Andres Soolo
> >
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To be sure, create the new account when under no restriction. Then, I total=
ly agree with you, provided that the old account is discarded (no longer us=
ed).=A0<div><br></div><div>However note, that if you plan to apply for admi=
nship, it is honest to list all WP activity of all accounts. They expect yo=
u to do that. If you are discovered later, they can&#39;t ban you, but they=
 can de-sysop you.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Another thing: if you are using a computer at work, you=
 can claim that another person had the same desk and computer before you, a=
nd probably that person had also a WP account. If account 1 and account 2 h=
ave the same IP but never overlap timely, it could be explained with this. =
In that case you can even apply for sysop-ship and not list the other accou=
nt.</div>
<div><br></div><div>However, please be careful about alternative ways of ch=
eckuser: language comparison, preferred articles, etc, etc. Also, the new a=
ccount should not look experienced the first few months. It is quite a lot =
of work.=A0<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/7/4 Martin <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail.com">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I may be wrong, and Piotr could correct me, but there is nothing in<br>
policy specifically against serial accounts. It only becomes an issue<br>
if the original account was perma-banned or otherwise evading a<br>
sanction, or multiple accounts used simultaneously in vote stacking or<br>
revert warring. But if a new account is created every few months and<br>
the old account discarded in a serial fashion, then I don&#39;t see that<br=
>
there would be a problem.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Martin<br>
</font><div class=3D"im"><br>
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Digwuren&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmai=
l.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 03:54, =
Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; OK, I made a comment. Unfortunately, Russavia came too.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This is an incentive for changing accounts almost as often as socks. =
=A0Since<br>
&gt; Wikipedia values newbies more highly than people who have been &quot;i=
nvolved in<br>
&gt; wikidrama&quot;, frequent account changes are favoured=A0by the existi=
ng framework<br>
&gt; as a way to get rid of the=A0sticky=A0mud.<br>
&gt; Frequent account-changes tend to throw off track both slow-acting DDR =
such<br>
&gt; as arbcom *and* stalkers. =A0The main risk is that some or all of the =
accounts<br>
&gt; may be labelled as sock puppets of each other or somebody else, and<br=
>
&gt; summarily blocked.<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Andres Soolo<br>
&gt;<br>
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