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Yes, Offliner is a sock of Petri Krohn, based on their editing time
schedule. Thank you Miacek!  Do we have any programs to automatically
produce reports like this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Giovanni33/Evidence#Edit_timelines_support_charge_of_puppetry



On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote:

> How can I verify IP of Offliner? Follow this link
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.247.246.99
>
> The list of edited articles corresponds precisely to articles edited by
> Offliner.
> Now go here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=COROT-3b&action=history
>
> look at the bottom: the timing of editing by Offliner and IP coincide
> (sequential edits)
>
> Look through all other articles they edited together. Same thing.
>
> Now look for the same IP number in German WP and edits by cs_offliner
>
> Same thing.
>
> How can you justify this is Khron besides living in the same area?
>
> You do not even need Checkuser.
>
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> This IP is certainly Offliner; I can easily show it (not sure about
>> Petri). But right now please do nothing about him in WP, I will try to
>> handle this myself.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog <
>> miacek08@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yes, Cs offliner in de.wiki admits he's a Finn
>>>
>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Diskussion:Bildungssystem_in_Finnland&diff=prev&oldid=40764528
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/05/2009, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog
>>> <miacek08@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> > How could you verify the IP is him?
>>> >
>>> > M.
>>> >
>>> > On 01/05/2009, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Ok, I made a check. Offliner is IP:80.247.246.99 from South Finland,
>>> one
>>> >> can
>>> >> compare edit histories.
>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.247.246.99
>>> >>
>>> >>  He also edited in German WP about Finland education system:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Cs_offliner
>>> >>
>>> >> Looks like a genuine user, not a sock.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog <
>>> >> miacek08@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Unlikely to be Fedorov's reincarnation. He is apparently a
>>> >>> well-educated lawyer from Gomel region (Belarus), Offliner claimed to
>>> >>> be student of computer science.
>>> >>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Offliner&oldid=232940771
>>> >>> This could be easy to susbtantiate based on his/her contributions
>>> >>> list.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Miacek.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 28/04/2009, Martin <martint20@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> > Interestingly Offliner first appears in December 2007, after Vlad
>>> >>> > fedorov was banned in September 2007. Offliner could well be Vlad
>>> >>> > fedorov.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Martin
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Andrei Dombay <
>>> wikibiophys@gmail.com>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>>> >>> >> Hey, Folks,
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> I probably need some help or advise with Offliner. He simply
>>> deletes
>>> >>> >> everything he does not like. That is actually much worse
>>> >>> >> than Russavia (honestly, I can live with Russavia since he tend to
>>> >>> follow
>>> >>> >> the rules, never mind his incivility). So far only two
>>> >>> >> users acted acted like Offliner: (may be this is him? - Vlad
>>> fedorov
>>> >>> >> later appeared later as User La poet), and to a lesser degree,
>>> >>> >>  LokiiT.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Andrei
>>> >>> >>
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Yes, Offliner is a sock of Petri Krohn, based on their editing time schedul=
e. Thank you Miacek!=A0 Do we have any programs to automatically produce re=
ports like this:=A0 <br><br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wik=
ipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Giovanni33/Evidence#Edit_timelines_support_=
charge_of_puppetry">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arb=
itration/Giovanni33/Evidence#Edit_timelines_support_charge_of_puppetry</a><=
br>
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:09 AM, And=
rei Dombay <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">w=
ikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0p=
t 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
How can I verify IP of Offliner? Follow this link<div class=3D"im"><br><br>=
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.247.246.99=
" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.2=
47.246.99</a><br>
<br></div>
The list of edited articles corresponds precisely to articles edited by Off=
liner.<br>Now go here:<br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph=
p?title=3DCOROT-3b&amp;action=3Dhistory" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipe=
dia.org/w/index.php?title=3DCOROT-3b&amp;action=3Dhistory</a><br>

<br>look at the bottom: the timing of editing by Offliner and IP coincide (=
sequential edits)<br><br>Look through all other articles they edited togeth=
er. Same thing.<br><br>Now look for the same IP number in German WP and edi=
ts by cs_offliner<br>

<br>Same thing.<br><br>How can you justify this is Khron besides living in =
the same area?<br><br>You do not even need Checkuser.<div><div></div><div c=
lass=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:15 =
AM, Andrei Dombay <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">This IP is certai=
nly Offliner; I can easily show it (not sure about Petri). But right now pl=
ease do nothing about him in WP, I will try to handle this myself.<div>

<div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6=
:53 AM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:miacek08@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">miacek08@googlemail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">yes, Cs offliner =
in de.wiki admits he&#39;s a Finn<br>
<a href=3D"http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DDiskussion:Bildungss=
ystem_in_Finnland&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D40764528" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DDiskussion:Bildungssystem_in_Fin=
nland&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D40764528</a>.<br>



<br>
<br>
<br>
On 01/05/2009, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog<br>
<div><div></div><div>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:miacek08@googlemail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">miacek08@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; How could you verify the IP is him?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; M.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 01/05/2009, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">wikibiophys@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Ok, I made a check. Offliner is IP:80.247.246.99 from South Finlan=
d, one<br>
&gt;&gt; can<br>
&gt;&gt; compare edit histories.<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.2=
47.246.99" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contribut=
ions/80.247.246.99</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =A0He also edited in German WP about Finland education system:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4ge/Cs_o=
ffliner" target=3D"_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Beitr%C3%A4=
ge/Cs_offliner</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Looks like a genuine user, not a sock.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog=
 &lt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:miacek08@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">miace=
k08@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Unlikely to be Fedorov&#39;s reincarnation. He is apparently a=
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; well-educated lawyer from Gomel region (Belarus), Offliner cla=
imed to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; be student of computer science.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DUser:Of=
fliner&amp;oldid=3D232940771" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/i=
ndex.php?title=3DUser:Offliner&amp;oldid=3D232940771</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; This could be easy to susbtantiate based on his/her contributi=
ons<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; list.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Miacek.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 28/04/2009, Martin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:martint20@gmail.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">martint20@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Interestingly Offliner first appears in December 2007, af=
ter Vlad<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fedorov was banned in September 2007. Offliner could well=
 be Vlad<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; fedorov.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Martin<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Andrei Dombay &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wikibiophys@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hey, Folks,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I probably need some help or advise with Offliner. He=
 simply deletes<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; everything he does not like. That is actually much wo=
rse<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; than Russavia (honestly, I can live with Russavia sin=
ce he tend to<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; follow<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the rules, never mind his incivility). So far only tw=
o<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; users acted acted like Offliner: (may be this is him?=
 - Vlad fedorov<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; later appeared later as User La poet), and to a lesse=
r degree,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; =A0LokiiT.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Andrei<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Wikipedia statistics discussion list<br>
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&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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