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Is the debate available anywhere online? I love Beevor's books, Stalingrad =
and Berlin 1945, some of the best WW2 publications you can find on the mark=
et.
=A0
Tymek

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com> wrote:


From: radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPM] Patrick Buchanan and his book
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 10:55 AM


I watched a BBC debate on Churchill's legacy last night which had Buchanan =
(who's basically a clown) in it, as well as serious people like Antony Beev=
or (who sounded really good). But yeah, Buchanan is basically a border line=
, closet Neo-Nazi of the Anglo-Saxon sort (thinks that Britain and Nazi Ger=
many should've been the best of friends).

Radek



2009/9/14 piotr micula <basiaipiotr@yahoo.com>






Peters, I have 40 pages more to finish, and then I will mail it to you, eit=
her by UPS or USPS.=20
=A0
Some of Buchanan's claims are quite interesting and I agree with him, espec=
ially on Stalin and Communist system. At the same time, he=A0hardly mention=
s Nazi atrocities in Eastern Europe, as if they were not important. General=
ly, he treats Eastern Europe like nothing, claiming that Britain should hav=
e made a deal with Hitler in June 1940, leaving Europe to the Nazis (and th=
e Commies, as we know it).=20
=A0
This book is one long list of alleged or not British blunders, and one long=
 junstification of Hitler, who, as Buchanan frequently writes, never wanted=
 any war. His rantings are grotesque, as he says for example it is Churchil=
l's fault that the Nazis attacked the SU, and as a result, millions died.=
=20
=A0
Tymek

--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com> wrote:


From: Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [WPM] Patrick Buchanan and his book
To: "Wikipedia statistics" <folks@wikipedometer.net>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 10:56 PM





Advisors for Bush and Obama are hardly better.




On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM, <PetersJV@aol.com> wrote:





In a message dated 9/13/2009 1:18:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, basiaipiot=
r@yahoo.com writes:





If you want this book, give me your address, and I will mail it to ya.=20
=A0
Tymek


I'll take it. It will make good fodder for "Library of Eastern European Her=
itage" and my planned section on poor and moronic scholarship. "Self-publis=
hed" these days is meaningless as a slur on references as "non-self-publish=
ed" references prove they have no intrinsic claim on reputability.
=A0
Peters Vecrumba
7023 Ridge Crest Terrace
Brooklyn, NY 11209
U.S.A.
=A0
/Peters
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Is the debate available anywhere online?=
 I love Beevor's books, Stalingrad and Berlin 1945, some of the best WW2 pu=
blications you can find on the market.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 9/14/09, radek szulga <I>&lt;rsszulga@gmai=
l.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: radek szulga &lt;rsszulga@gmail.com&gt;<BR>=
Subject: Re: [WPM] Patrick Buchanan and his book<BR>To: "Wikipedia statisti=
cs" &lt;folks@wikipedometer.net&gt;<BR>Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 10=
:55 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv888630930>I watched a BBC debate on Churchill's legacy last ni=
ght which had Buchanan (who's basically a clown) in it, as well as serious =
people like Antony Beevor (who sounded really good). But yeah, Buchanan is =
basically a border line, closet Neo-Nazi of the Anglo-Saxon sort (thinks th=
at Britain and Nazi Germany should've been the best of friends).<BR><BR>Rad=
ek<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>2009/9/14 piotr micula <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=
=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com" t=
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aipiotr@yahoo.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><BR>
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<DIV>Peters, I have 40 pages more to finish, and then I will mail it to you=
, either by UPS or USPS. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Some of Buchanan's claims are quite interesting and I agree with him, =
especially on Stalin and Communist system. At the same time, he&nbsp;hardly=
 mentions Nazi atrocities in Eastern Europe, as if they were not important.=
 Generally, he treats Eastern Europe like nothing, claiming that Britain sh=
ould have made a deal with Hitler in June 1940, leaving Europe to the Nazis=
 (and the Commies, as we know it). </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This book is one long list of alleged or not British blunders, and one=
 long junstification of Hitler, who, as Buchanan frequently writes, never w=
anted any war. His rantings are grotesque, as he says for example it is Chu=
rchill's fault that the Nazis attacked the SU, and as a result, millions di=
ed. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 9/13/09, Andrei Dombay <I>&lt;<A href=3D"h=
ttp://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dwikibiophys@gmail.com" target=
=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow ymailto=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibioph=
ys@gmail.com</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Andrei Dombay &lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc32=
8.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dwikibiophys@gmail.com" target=3D_blank rel=
=3Dnofollow ymailto=3D"mailto:wikibiophys@gmail.com">wikibiophys@gmail.com<=
/A>&gt;
<DIV class=3Dim><BR>Subject: Re: [WPM] Patrick Buchanan and his book<BR>To:=
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mpose?to=3Dfolks@wikipedometer.net" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow ymailto=
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<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dh5><BR><BR>
<DIV>Advisors for Bush and Obama are hardly better.<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM, <SPAN dir=3Dltr>=
&lt;<A href=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DPetersJV@aol.=
com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>PetersJV@aol.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<=
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 9/13/2009 1:18:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <A hr=
ef=3D"http://us.mc328.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dbasiaipiotr@yahoo.com"=
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<DIV>If you want this book, give me your address, and I will mail it to ya.=
 </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Tymek<BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>I'll take it. It will make good fodder for "Library of Eastern Europea=
n Heritage" and my planned section on poor and moronic scholarship. "Self-p=
ublished" these days is meaningless as a slur on references as "non-self-pu=
blished" references prove they have no intrinsic claim on reputability.</DI=
V>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Peters Vecrumba</DIV>
<DIV>7023 Ridge Crest Terrace</DIV>
<DIV>Brooklyn, NY 11209</DIV>
<DIV>U.S.A.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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