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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:35:37 +0300
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	going so far as to hebrew or similar Jewish lang's, I'd suggest Yiddish:
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If someone is now as desperate in that affair as to be going so far as
to hebrew or similar Jewish lang's, I'd suggest Yiddish: it's only
that terrible alphabet, the vocabulary is rather simple (60% High
German words), so posing as a Yiddish spaker is easier :-D

I have noticed some (true, very few) Yiddish speakers on wiki. And
note Yiddish is nowadays mostly spoken in the US, not israel ;-)

M.

On 15/06/2009, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com> wrote:
> If we pull something like this, is has to go against the entire Cartel,
> otherwise it's not worth the effort. We can impersonate someone who first
> gets friendly with the Cartel, then after 3-4 months gets more neutral (but
> still largely favorable to team USSR), and in 6 months tries to run for
> adminship with surprising support. :):):) Let them try to desysop that moll.
> :):):) The user could claim a change of hurt. He doesn't even have to be
> friendly with us. Occasional admin help is perfect.
> At least we can enjoy the way it sounds :)
>
> It's enough he would be ruining the Cartel with inside knowledge and could
> take an admin action here and there. To have the best chances, we can try to
> "create" a Russian Jew who emigrated to Israel in late 1980s as a kid or a
> very young person (sounds plausible). We can supply the user with a lot of
> pro-Israeli edits (totally genuine ones), so as not to show only interest in
> Soviet areas. The pro-Soviet view could be motivated by nostalgia for
> childhood. The change of heart can be motivated by some ouverture of the
> Russian government towards Iran. The main problem is we need "him" to speak
> Hebrew. But then we have an alternative: not emigrated to Israel, but to
> USA. Although still, some knowledge of Hebrew is compulsory.
>
> To practically pull this off, there has to be a separate IP address. The
> simplest way would be for someone to use work to edit own account and home
> to edit this fake one, or vice-versa, and never, absolutely never mix or
> edit as anon. It's not so easy to change the IP address at work, but at
> home, one can get a new internet provider with a new cable, etc. Serious
> danger: someone in the family edits as anon (not simultaneously, but enough
> one edit, two years later, and boom, newspaper space, maybe even tv time,
> guaranteed :) )
>
> ok, that was just science fiction :)
>
> to pull something like this, extraordinary motivation is needed. If I am not
> mistaken, the most damaging spy in the KGB/GRU for the CIA was a person
> whose son got seriously ill when he was on a short diplomatic event at the
> UN in early 1960s, and his superiors forbid for his son to be taken to a
> hospital. His son died, and as a revenge, he supplied CIA with info for 25
> years, selecting whatever he wanted to pass (he would not take orders "bring
> this, try that"), and constantly inventing new ways to convey info. He never
> got a single cent from CIA and was caught only because of a moll inside CIA.
> Apparently he was as high in the KGB/GRU hierarchy as a sane technical
> person could get (if i'm not mistaken, number 2 in one of the directorates)
> Unfortunately, I do not recall his name.
>
>
>
>
> 2009/6/15 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>
>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:38, Christian Suciu
>> <christiansuciu@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.heavenlyperfumes.com.au/
>>> (Maybe we could make some mischief through the "Contact us" form? We
>>> could
>>> even call him up. Perhaps with a fake Russian accent (or real, in
>>> Andrei's
>>> case), or Martin's Australian one (I assume).)
>>>
>>
>> I suspect the dangers of this approach outweigh its benefits.  He might
>> become paranoid and claim he's being stalked.
>>
>> --
>> Andres Soolo
>>
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