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PU's obviously much more active. I skewered him on edits/reverts he =20
recently made on neo-Stalinism--which completely misrepresented the source=
 and =20
indeed said things which the source in NO WAY stated. (Please feel free to=
 use=20
 the edit trail as evidence.)
=20
I'm now working on South Ossetia, where I can use some help... before I =
=20
attempt to drive a stake through PasswordUsername's and HistoricWarrior007=
's =20
hearts at South Ossetia, I need confirmation from a Russian speaker that=
 the=20
 following is correct.
=20
"=D0=AF =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=B3=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=BB =D0=
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=BA=D0=BE=D0=BC=20
=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8."

"I  headed to South Ossetia and Georgian area."
=20
"=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8" liter=
ally means "direction" but it makes no sense (as =20
English) in the Borisov interview if one used that word instead of area.=
 =20
Anything on backing up this version of translation would be greatly =20
appreciated!
=20
A complete translation in the vernacular of:
=20
=D0=AF =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=B3=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=BB =D0=BD=
=D0=B0 =D1=8E=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=81=
=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=B8 =D0=B3=D1=80=D1=83=D0=B7=D0=B8=D0=BD=D1=81=D0=BA=
=D0=BE=D0=BC=20
=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8. =D0=92=
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=8B  =D0=B4=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=B2 =D1=82=D0=B5=D1=85 =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B9=
=D0=BE=D0=BD=D0=B0=D1=85 =D1=83=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F =D0=B4=D0=B0=
=D0=B6=D0=B5=20
=D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D0=BE=D1=8F=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=
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=B8 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=8E =20
=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=BA=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BA=D1=83, =D0=B7=D0=B0 =D0=BD=D0=
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=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B4=D1=8F =D1=83=D1=87=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=
=D1=8F =D0=B8=D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BD=D0=BE =D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BC, =D0=B2=20
=D1=82=D0=B5=D1=85 =D0=B6=D0=B5 =D0=BC=D0=B5=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B0=D1=85.
=20
would be even better! As stilted as PasswordUsername's and =20
HistoricWarrior007's translations are (HU resorting to _http://translation=
2.paralink.com/_=20
(http://translation2.paralink.com/)   as "proof" of the word direction, a=
=20
machine translation; and PU adding a litany  on how =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=
=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8 can't=20
possibly mean area), I can tell they are avoiding the  intent of what Bori=
sov=20
communicated. Of course I could pay an impartial  translation service (not=
=20
that expensive for a short bit of text), however, I  need to know that I'm=
=20
barking up the right tree. (And it might be worth doing  that just to shar=
pen=20
the stake.) Thanks!
=20
I don't want to get PasswordUsername on disruptive behavior like reverts,=
 I=20
 want to get him on that AND blatant misrepresentation of sources, all the=
=20
while  inserting and reverting to push his POV. (His most recent talk entr=
y=20
at South  Ossetia threatened "DIGWUREN", so I know I have his attention.)=
 If=20
I can take  care of HistoricWarrior007 in the process, that would be a=20
bonus.
=20
/Peters
=20
P.S. The Wiki Borisov article translates the last part of obviously this=
 =20
original statement as "a week before the war they held military exercises=
 =20
exactly there, in those places". I don't want to draw attention to that=20
article  until I've got a solid translation of the Borisov  quote.


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<DIV>PU's obviously much more active. I skewered him on edits/reverts he=
=20
recently made on neo-Stalinism--which completely misrepresented the source=
 and=20
indeed said things which the source in NO WAY stated. (Please feel free to=
 use=20
the edit trail as evidence.)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I'm now working on South Ossetia, where I can use some help... before=
 I=20
attempt to drive a stake through PasswordUsername's and HistoricWarrior007=
's=20
hearts at South Ossetia, I need confirmation from a Russian speaker that=
 the=20
following is correct.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"=D0=AF =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=B3=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=BB=
 =D0=BD=D0=B0 =D1=8E=D0=B6=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=BE=D1=81=D0=B5=D1=82=D0=B8=D0=BD=
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=D0=B8=D0=B8."<BR>&nbsp;<BR>"I=20
headed to South Ossetia and Georgian area."</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8"=
 literally means "direction" but it makes no sense (as=20
English) in the Borisov interview if one used that word instead of area.=
=20
Anything on backing up this version of translation would be greatly=20
appreciated!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>A complete translation in the vernacular of:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>=D0=AF =D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B7=D0=B3=D0=BB=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D1=8F=D0=BB=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>would be even better! As stilted as PasswordUsername's and=20
HistoricWarrior007's translations are (HU resorting to <A=20
href=3D"http://translation2.paralink.com/">http://translation2.paralink.co=
m/</A>=20
as "proof" of the word direction, a machine translation; and PU adding a=
 litany=20
on how =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B8=
 can't possibly mean area), I can tell they are avoiding the=20
intent of what Borisov communicated. Of course I could pay an impartial=20
translation service (not that expensive for a short bit of text), however,=
 I=20
need to know that I'm barking up the right tree. (And it might be worth do=
ing=20
that just to sharpen the stake.) Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I don't want to get PasswordUsername on disruptive behavior like reve=
rts, I=20
want to get him on that AND blatant misrepresentation of sources, all the=
 while=20
inserting and reverting to push his POV. (His most recent talk entry at So=
uth=20
Ossetia threatened "DIGWUREN", so I know I have his attention.) If I can=
 take=20
care of HistoricWarrior007 in the process, that would be a bonus.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>/Peters</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>P.S. The Wiki Borisov article translates the last part of obviously=
 this=20
original statement as "a week before the war they held military exercises=
=20
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