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What's "sb"? Should we bring it up on Sandstein or Shell's talk (I'd
actually go with Sandstein since he's 1RRed Matthead before) or email?
Asking about it publicly runs the possibility that Matthead shows up and
comments again. Which is always good. The more that guy says the better.

Radek


2009/7/13 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>

> Molobo Molobo wrote:
> > As Matthead is already on the list of editors subject to sanction,
> > could we report this statement as violation:
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Expulsion_of_Germans_after_World_War_II&diff=prev&oldid=301855343
> >
> > Seems like clear provacation and flaming:
> > Fragments:
> >
> > "If the Nazis were so bad, why did they destroy the relatively young
> > Warsaw after the Uprising of 1944, but not other, much older cities
> > and buildings with cultural importance to Poles?"
> >
> > "Systematically destroying cities is what Allies have done with their
> > bombing to all German cities, well before 1944, and to non-German
> > cities, too."
> >
> > "in 1945, the Poles had already over 600 years of experience with
> > expulsion of Germans, by open violence, or by more subtle methods"
>
> Considering that the admins are probably annoyed now with unactionable
> AE reports, I'd suggest sb @ Sandstein / Shell first and asks them if
> they think that's enough to report him.
>
> We can also mention him stroking the flames at AE:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=299568824
>
> Unfortunately (...) he hasn't really done anything else in the last half
> a month that would warrant a diff.
>
>
> --
> Piotr Konieczny
>
> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
> theory."
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What&#39;s &quot;sb&quot;? Should we bring it up on Sandstein or Shell&#39;=
s talk (I&#39;d actually go with Sandstein since he&#39;s 1RRed Matthead be=
fore) or email? Asking about it publicly runs the possibility that Matthead=
 shows up and comments again. Which is always good. The more that guy says =
the better.<br>
<br>Radek<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/7/13 Piotr Konieczny <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0p=
t 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Molobo Molobo wrote:<br>
&gt; As Matthead is already on the list of editors subject to sanction,<br>
&gt; could we report this statement as violation:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Expulsion_=
of_Germans_after_World_War_II&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D301855343" target=
=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DTalk:Expulsion_of_G=
ermans_after_World_War_II&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D301855343</a><br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; Seems like clear provacation and flaming:<br>
&gt; Fragments:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;If the Nazis were so bad, why did they destroy the relatively yo=
ung<br>
&gt; Warsaw after the Uprising of 1944, but not other, much older cities<br=
>
&gt; and buildings with cultural importance to Poles?&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;Systematically destroying cities is what Allies have done with t=
heir<br>
&gt; bombing to all German cities, well before 1944, and to non-German<br>
&gt; cities, too.&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;in 1945, the Poles had already over 600 years of experience with=
<br>
&gt; expulsion of Germans, by open violence, or by more subtle methods&quot=
;<br>
<br>
</div>Considering that the admins are probably annoyed now with unactionabl=
e<br>
AE reports, I&#39;d suggest sb @ Sandstein / Shell first and asks them if<b=
r>
they think that&#39;s enough to report him.<br>
<br>
We can also mention him stroking the flames at AE:<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Arbitratio=
n/Requests/Enforcement&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D299568824" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Arbitration/Requ=
ests/Enforcement&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D299568824</a><br>

<br>
Unfortunately (...) he hasn&#39;t really done anything else in the last hal=
f<br>
a month that would warrant a diff.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
--<br>
Piotr Konieczny<br>
<br>
&quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
<br>
theory.&quot;<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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