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	Content preview:  PetersJV@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/25/2009
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	> > Again, I don't want to have too many reverts. That article, by the
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PetersJV@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/25/2009 10:52:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> piokon@post.pl writes:
> 
>     http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lithuanian_nobility&diff=310089327&oldid=310069350
> 
>     Again, I don't want to have too many reverts. That article, by the way,
>     could use being checked for Lithuanian POV, since it is a common
>     content
>     fork for our Lithuanian friends.
> 
>     -- 
>     Piotr Konieczny
> 
>     "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
>     theory."
> 
> Short on time tonight, however, I have read individuals described as 
> Lithuanian ancestry/nobility in non-Lith/Polo sources who are called 
> Polish on WP... :-) /Peters

As always, there is a difference between Grand Duchy of Lithuania, and 
what we understand as Lithuanian today. Szlachta was mostly polonized, 
but szlachta of Grand Duchy - despite speaking Polish and adopting 
Polish traditions - considered themselves Lithuanian; yet they were 
quite different (heavily polonized) compared to their pre-Union of 
Lublin ancestors. Our Lithuanian friends, of course, are trying to 
ignore any influence of polonization, and push their revisionist version 
that there was a major difference between Polish szlachta and Lithuanian 
nobility (which they don't even want to call szlachta).

-- 
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in 
theory."

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