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From: Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>
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	PU jumped in? He claims to be a Jew (which perhaps he isn't), and it
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And you have so many such cases? You should have called it "Nazi
references". "Nazi attacks" sounds as an a priori exageration, even when in
fact it is not.
Anyway, then what I don't understand is why PU jumped in? He claims to be a
Jew (which perhaps he isn't), and it would sound strange for him to defend
Nazi references. We can put this as a rethoric question to him in future
disputes "And why did you actually oppose that then? Are you suggesting
using Nazi references is all right?"

2009/6/12 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 01:55, Dorin Cheptea <dorin.cheptea@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> ok, let me understand: you mean comparisons of Estonia with Nazi attacks?
>
>
> I meant, attacks on Wikipedia involving people introducing spurious Nazi
> references into articles.  I hoped to ride on the "they're beating ours"
> rhetoric that serves "counter-vandalism" people so well.
>

Well, not always. We have just managed to defend one 1942 published book
(about pre 1918 history) attacked by Dahn. It took 3 of us, but we succeded.
It turns out the book was republished in 1997 and 2003 with the logo of the
Romanian Ministry of Culture.

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And you have so many such cases? You should have called it &quot;Nazi refer=
ences&quot;. &quot;Nazi attacks&quot; sounds as an a priori exageration, ev=
en when in fact it is not.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, then what I don&#39;t=
 understand is why PU jumped in? He claims to be a Jew (which perhaps he is=
n&#39;t), and it would sound strange for him to defend Nazi references. We =
can put this as a rethoric question to him in future disputes &quot;And why=
 did you actually oppose that then? Are you suggesting using Nazi reference=
s is all right?&quot;<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/12 Digwuren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 01:55,=
 Dorin Cheptea <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dorin.cheptea@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">dorin.cheptea@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

ok, let me understand: you mean comparisons of Estonia with Nazi attacks?</=
blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>I meant, attacks on Wikipedia involvin=
g people introducing spurious Nazi references into articles. =A0I hoped to =
ride on the &quot;they&#39;re beating ours&quot; rhetoric that serves &quot=
;counter-vandalism&quot; people so well.</div>

<div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, not always. We have=
 just managed to defend one 1942 published book (about pre 1918 history) at=
tacked by Dahn. It took 3 of us, but we succeded. It turns out the book was=
 republished in 1997 and 2003 with the logo of the Romanian Ministry of Cul=
ture.=A0</div>
</div><br></div>

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