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Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:29:19 -0400
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One should also check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSoviet_war_crimes&curid=3D47511=
35&diff=3D311767110&oldid=3D311764778


On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Molobo Molobo <molobus@gmail.com> wrote:

> I see that you are engaged in debate there.
> It might be worth mentioning that those events are often named population
> transfer rather then ethnic cleansing or genocide
>
> National minorities and the European nation-states system=E2=80=8E Jennif=
er Jackson
> Preece - 1998 Population transfer Population transfers were also advocate=
d
> and ... approved the forced transfer of 6.5 million ethnic Germans from
> Czechoslovakia, Poland,
>
>
> Expelling the Germans: British opinion and post-1945 population transfe
> Matthew James Frank - 2008
>
>
> Europe and German unification=E2=80=8E Renata Fritsch-Bournaz 1992 The ex=
pulsion of
> Germans, who still numbered in the millions, ... burden of this
> unprecedented population transfer was for the most part put on the West
>
>
>
> The article completely avoids mentioning colonists and occupational
> administration that were part of those removed:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_nazi_germany#German_=
colonization_and_settlement
>
>
> Which is about 400,000-500.000 personal for occupation and about 630.000
> colonists in annexed territories. Alltogether 2 milion Germans by the end=
 of
> the war in all Polish territories. All this  is sourced in link above and
> can be copied.
>
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One should also check this out:<br><br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w=
/index.php?title=3DSoviet_war_crimes&amp;curid=3D4751135&amp;diff=3D3117671=
10&amp;oldid=3D311764778">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DSovie=
t_war_crimes&amp;curid=3D4751135&amp;diff=3D311767110&amp;oldid=3D311764778=
</a><br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Molobo M=
olobo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:molobus@gmail.com">molobus@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padd=
ing-left: 1ex;">
I see that you are engaged in debate there.<br>It might be worth mentioning=
 that those events are often named population transfer rather then ethnic c=
leansing or genocide<br><br><p>National minorities and the European nation-=
states system=E2=80=8E Jennifer
Jackson Preece - 1998 Population transfer Population transfers were
also advocated and ... approved the forced transfer of 6.5 million
ethnic Germans from Czechoslovakia, Poland,</p>
<p><br>
Expelling the Germans: British opinion and post-1945 population transfe Mat=
thew James Frank - 2008</p>
<p><br>
Europe and German unification=E2=80=8E Renata Fritsch-Bournaz 1992 The
expulsion of Germans, who still numbered in the millions, ... burden of
this unprecedented population transfer was for the most part put on the
West</p><p><br></p><p><br>The article completely avoids mentioning colonist=
s and occupational administration that were part of those removed:</p><p><a=
 href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_nazi_germany#=
German_colonization_and_settlement" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.o=
rg/wiki/Polish_areas_annexed_by_nazi_germany#German_colonization_and_settle=
ment</a></p>

<p><br></p><p>Which is about 400,000-500.000 personal for occupation and ab=
out 630.000 colonists in annexed territories. Alltogether 2 milion Germans =
by the end of the war in all Polish territories. All this=C2=A0 is sourced =
in link above and can be copied.<br>

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