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Is this legit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Russian_influence_operations_in_Estonia_(2nd_nomination)&curid=23839722&diff=306544812&oldid=306491871

PU is striking out Joklolk's vote because recently Joklolk got banned (I
think for sock puppetry) - but he voted before his ban and he didn't vote
twice as far as I can tell (I think his sock/master was ViperNerd)

I'm not going to push it unless this is a breach of policy by PU.

Radek

2009/8/6 <PetersJV@aol.com>

>  In a message dated 8/6/2009 2:58:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> digwuren@gmail.com writes:
>
> Thus, it's rather interesting that this argument has been made repeatedly
> in this AFD: first by Abductive, then by LokiiT, then by Rankiri.  Adding
> Triplestop to the mix and considering that besides LokiiT, we haven't
> encountered those people before, it seems to indicate that the AFD has been
> discussed among some sort of communist-yearning cabal.  That such a cabal
> has been managed to avoid detection for several years is quite worrysome.
>  The users do not appear to be particularly keen on editing Soviet topics,
> so they aren't probably nostalgic ex-Soviets but some sort of Western
> "Communism fan club".  Could be Communist Party activists of some West
> European or South American country.  Rankiri's interest in Africa is not a
> strong clue; it's common of well-meaning Westerners -- from Che Guevara and
> Jimmy Carter to Matthias Rath -- to try and fix Africa.  As we all know,
> it's often been "fixing" in the veterinarian sense :-P
>
>  The greatest danger is not the people we know, the current crop including
> Offliner, Russavia and PasswordUsername, but the "well-meaningers", witness
> this AFD nomination and exchanges:
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2009_August_6#File:Nostalin.png
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jeff_G.#.22No_Stalinism.22
>
> Another clueless individual who wants to grow up to be a WP admin.
>
> /Peters
>
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Is this legit:<br><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWi=
kipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Russian_influence_operations_in_Estonia_(2nd_=
nomination)&amp;curid=3D23839722&amp;diff=3D306544812&amp;oldid=3D306491871=
">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Articles_for_deleti=
on/Russian_influence_operations_in_Estonia_(2nd_nomination)&amp;curid=3D238=
39722&amp;diff=3D306544812&amp;oldid=3D306491871</a><br>
<br>PU is striking out Joklolk&#39;s vote because recently Joklolk got bann=
ed (I think for sock puppetry) - but he voted before his ban and he didn&#3=
9;t vote twice as far as I can tell (I think his sock/master was ViperNerd)=
<br>
<br>I&#39;m not going to push it unless this is a breach of policy by PU.<b=
r><br>Radek<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/8/6  <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:PetersJV@aol.com">PetersJV@aol.com</a>&gt;</span><br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">




<div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial;"><f=
ont size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">
<div><div class=3D"im">
<div>In a message dated 8/6/2009 2:58:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">digwuren@gmail.com<=
/a> writes:</div>
</div><div class=3D"im"><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid blue; p=
adding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;"><font style=3D"background-color: trans=
parent;" size=3D"2" color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">
  <div>Thus, it&#39;s rather interesting that this argument has been made r=
epeatedly=20
  in this AFD: first by Abductive, then by LokiiT, then by Rankiri. =A0Addi=
ng=20
  Triplestop to the mix and considering that besides LokiiT, we haven&#39;t=
=20
  encountered those people before, it seems to indicate that the AFD has be=
en=20
  discussed among some sort of communist-yearning cabal. =A0That such a cab=
al=20
  has been managed to avoid detection for several years is quite worrysome.=
=20
  =A0The users do not appear to be particularly keen on editing Soviet=20
  topics, so they aren&#39;t probably nostalgic ex-Soviets but some sort of=
 Western=20
  &quot;Communism fan club&quot;. =A0Could be Communist Party activists of =
some West=20
  European or South American country. =A0Rankiri&#39;s interest in Africa i=
s not=20
  a strong clue; it&#39;s common of well-meaning Westerners -- from Che Gue=
vara and=20
  Jimmy Carter to Matthias Rath -- to try and fix Africa. =A0As we all know=
,=20
  it&#39;s often been &quot;fixing&quot; in the veterinarian sense=20
:-P</div></font></blockquote></div></div>
<div></div>
<div>The greatest danger is not the people we know, the current crop includ=
ing=20
Offliner, Russavia and PasswordUsername, but the &quot;well-meaningers&quot=
;, witness this=20
AFD=A0nomination and=A0exchanges:</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2=
009_August_6#File:Nostalin.png" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w=
iki/Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2009_August_6#File:Nostalin.png</a></div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jeff_G.#.22No_Stalin=
ism.22" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jeff_G.#.2=
2No_Stalinism.22</a></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Another clueless individual who wants to grow up to be a=20
WP=A0admin.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>/Peters</div></font><div><br><font style=3D"color: black; font-family:=
 arial,san-serif; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: no=
rmal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-st=
retch: normal;"> <hr style=3D"margin-top: 10px;">
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