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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 09:19:37 -0400
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From: Andrei Dombay <wikibiophys@gmail.com>
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Not responding means admitting all arguments by your opponents. Not
responding was fatal error of Vlad Fedorov. You should follow last advice by
Sandstein: (1) responds to all claims or diffs that may be misunderstood by
the reviewing administrator; (2) if you think the accusers have some valid
points, tell how you are going to adapt/behave. I think your text above is
OK as a part of your answer.


On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:14, Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was having in mind something like writing on Sandstein's (or another
>> administrator's) talkpage something like this:
>>
>
> I did it, since nobody suggested anything better.  It might help, but I
> guess it's not guaranteed.
>
> Also, please do try to soup up the dramu, as Piotrus suggested.  The point
> is to demonstrate that as a vexatious litigator, Offliner has generated
> dramu-prone meritless two requests that are very complicated to handle
> properly.  Unfortunately, I can't help without seeming like developing a
> battlefield. :/  It might be that Biophys should stay away, too.
>
> It's probably useful to explain some of the silliest diffs Offliner
> proposed in both cases, and discuss thoroughly why they're silly.  Don't
> forget to repeatedly refer to Offliner's earlier meritless cases.
>
> --
> Andres Soolo
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Not responding means admitting all arguments by your opponents. Not respond=
ing was fatal error of Vlad Fedorov. You should follow last advice by Sands=
tein: (1) responds to all claims or diffs that may be misunderstood by the =
reviewing administrator; (2) if you think the accusers have some valid poin=
ts, tell how you are going to adapt/behave. I think your text above is OK a=
s a part of your answer.<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Digwure=
n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com">digwuren@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"b=
order-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddin=
g-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:14,=
 Digwuren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:digwuren@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">digwuren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=
: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>I was having in mind something like writing=
 on Sandstein&#39;s (or another administrator&#39;s) talkpage something lik=
e this:</div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>I did it, since nobody sugge=
sted anything better.=A0 It might help, but I guess it&#39;s not guaranteed=
.<br>

</div></div><br>Also, please do try to soup up the dramu, as Piotrus sugges=
ted.=A0 The point is to demonstrate that as a vexatious litigator, Offliner=
 has generated dramu-prone meritless two requests that are very complicated=
 to handle properly.=A0 Unfortunately, I can&#39;t help without seeming lik=
e developing a battlefield. :/=A0 It might be that Biophys should stay away=
, too.<br>

<br>It&#39;s probably useful to explain some of the silliest diffs Offliner=
 proposed in both cases, and discuss thoroughly why they&#39;re silly.=A0 D=
on&#39;t forget to repeatedly refer to Offliner&#39;s earlier meritless cas=
es.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">
<br>-- <br>Andres Soolo<br>
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