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	2009/3/24 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>: >> Seems likely to me. Seems
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	2009/3/24 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>: >> Seems likely to me. Seems
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	and the result was a single PC. However it > > Checkuser is very
	ill-equipped to detect for this kind of thing. It's > normal for a
	single person to use different computers, sometimes rather far > away
	via network topology. For example, if a person logs to Wikipedia from >
	home, from office, perhaps while commuting on a train -- that makes
	three > distinct addresses already with nothing obviously untowardly
	going on. > Considering this, and the fact that checkuser people are
	sometimes > incompetent and always secretive, I wouldn't say that the
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	checkuser was > likely useless to determine it either way. >> >> It is
	not all that >> >> difficult to share a PC via a remote client, so that
	it appears to be >> a single PC. > > Quite possible, but given the
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Do you think we should invite Biophys to our list? He seems to be
losing heart: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Biophys&diff=279208179&oldid=279083378

2009/3/24 Digwuren <digwuren@gmail.com>:
>> Seems likely to me. Seems that Russavia had asked to be checkusered
>> back in November last year and the result was a single PC. However it
>
> Checkuser is very ill-equipped to detect for this kind of thing.  It's
> normal for a single person to use different computers, sometimes rather far
> away via network topology.  For example, if a person logs to Wikipedia from
> home, from office, perhaps while commuting on a train -- that makes three
> distinct addresses already with nothing obviously untowardly going on.
> Considering this, and the fact that checkuser people are sometimes
> incompetent and always secretive, I wouldn't say that the checkuser
> confirmed Russavia using a single PC.  I would say that the checkuser was
> likely useless to determine it either way.
>>
>> It is not all that
>>
>> difficult to share a PC via a remote client, so that it appears to be
>> a single PC.
>
> Quite possible, but given the above, I wouldn't agree it's an interpretation
> well supported by the available evidence.
>>
>> Seems editing Wikipedia is a full time job for Russavia, so I don't
>> know how he would derive an income to feed himself and pay for the
>> internet connect, unless he is a kid living at home or paid to do
>> this.
>
> Well, some of that drudgery work might theoretically be automated.  (This
> would explain both Russavia's willingness to do them *and* the 60-hour
> editing streaks.)  He doesn't strike me as a programmer, but I might have
> misjudged him, and if he *has* it as a full-time job, then somebody else
> might be doing the software development for him.
> --
> Andres Soolo
>
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