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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:40:24 -0500
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Faustian responded to my email about whether he'd retract his complaint by
saying:
"Yes, of course.  If he agrees to stop attacking me and changing the order
with no discussion I will retract my complaint."

I think at this point if Richard says something about getting upset about it
and using an inappropriate tone (some of those remarks were too sharp edged)
and voluntarily promises to stay away from the article in order to cool off,
then the whole matter can probably be dropped.

Radek

2009/7/31 radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com>

> I emailed Faustian to see if he'd respond. I asked him to just ask for a
> warning for Richard and say that no blocks or bans are necessary. I worded
> my email so that if it's somehow made public, there's nothing incriminating
> in there. I just politely asked him if he'd consider.
>
> Radek
>
>
> 2009/7/31 Piotr Konieczny <piokon@post.pl>
>
> Molobo Molobo wrote:
>> > Poeticibent please take time to cool off-your latest comments only make
>> > the situation worse
>> >
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=305276307
>> > <
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=305276307
>> >
>> >
>> > I think it would be advisable if you would try to keep off from
>> > commenting for a couple of hours to let the steam go out.
>>
>> Good suggestions all round, I will just add that somebody needs to take
>> control of Faustian, who is edit warring (despite the report on 3RR he
>> is still reverting on the target article, and we know how well that goes).
>>
>> Again, I am trying not to issue a warning or push the issue at AN/3RR,
>> since as a Pole my actions can be seen as biased. I was hoping that
>> Ukrainian members of this group would do so instead; Ostap, can you try
>> this? As you can see, the Polish editors here will try to help mediate
>> between our more involved editors as well, and we admit that we are not
>> perfect, but it takes two to tango.
>>
>> I wonder if I am uninvolved enough to close the thread by protecting the
>> article. I haven't really edited the article in any controversial manner
>> for a very long time, and as Ostap refactored his post, ArbCom is no
>> longer mentioned.
>>
>> --
>> Piotr Konieczny
>>
>> "The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in
>> theory."
>>
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Faustian responded to my email about whether he&#39;d retract his complaint=
 by saying:<br>&quot;Yes, of course.=A0 If he agrees to stop attacking me a=
nd changing the order with no discussion I will retract my complaint.&quot;=
<br>
<br>I think at this point if Richard says something about getting upset abo=
ut it and using an inappropriate tone (some of those remarks were too sharp=
 edged) and voluntarily promises to stay away from the article in order to =
cool off, then the whole matter can probably be dropped.<br>
<br>Radek<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/7/31 radek szulga <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsszulga@gmail.com">rsszulga@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px s=
olid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I emailed Faustian to see if he&#39;d respond. I asked him to just ask for =
a warning for Richard and say that no blocks or bans are necessary. I worde=
d my email so that if it&#39;s somehow made public, there&#39;s nothing inc=
riminating in there. I just politely asked him if he&#39;d consider.<br>

<br>Radek<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/7/31 Piotr Konieczny <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;piokon@post.pl&gt;</span><div><div></div><div class=3D=
"h5"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div>Molobo Molobo wrote:<br>
&gt; Poeticibent please take time to cool off-your latest comments only mak=
e<br>
&gt; the situation worse<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:Admin=
istrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D305276307=
" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:A=
dministrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D30527=
6307</a><br>


&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikipedia:A=
dministrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D30527=
6307" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=3DWikiped=
ia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&amp;diff=3Dprev&amp;oldid=3D3=
05276307</a>&gt;<br>


&gt;<br>
&gt; I think it would be advisable if you would try to keep off from<br>
&gt; commenting for a couple of hours to let the steam go out.<br>
<br>
</div>Good suggestions all round, I will just add that somebody needs to ta=
ke<br>
control of Faustian, who is edit warring (despite the report on 3RR he<br>
is still reverting on the target article, and we know how well that goes).<=
br>
<br>
Again, I am trying not to issue a warning or push the issue at AN/3RR,<br>
since as a Pole my actions can be seen as biased. I was hoping that<br>
Ukrainian members of this group would do so instead; Ostap, can you try<br>
this? As you can see, the Polish editors here will try to help mediate<br>
between our more involved editors as well, and we admit that we are not<br>
perfect, but it takes two to tango.<br>
<br>
I wonder if I am uninvolved enough to close the thread by protecting the<br=
>
article. I haven&#39;t really edited the article in any controversial manne=
r<br>
for a very long time, and as Ostap refactored his post, ArbCom is no<br>
longer mentioned.<br>
<div><br>
--<br>
Piotr Konieczny<br>
<br>
&quot;The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in=
<br>
theory.&quot;<br>
<br>
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