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radek szulga wrote:
> I've went back and read some old archives and it seemed from there that 
> yes at one point, when he first joined Wiki Lokyz was capable of being 
> cooperative and, well, "normal". But through his association with MK, 
> Dr. Dan and Deacon he got radicalized and became completely unreasonable.
> I also think of myself as pro-Lithuanian (half my family comes from 
> there - that ain't a Polish last name) but that doesn't mean that I can 
> support the sort of extremism that these guys push.

See my essay on radicalization...

Somebody once said that this can be explained as even a Lithuanian 
interwar politician once said that "Soviets can only take away our land, 
Poles will take away our souls", referring to the failure of 
Russification and Sovietization and successes of (voluntary 
Commonwealth-era) Polonization. And Germans were always "friendly" 
towards Lithuania, not from any sentiment but due to realpolitics: they 
supported Lithuanian independence during WWI as they saw it as weakening 
both Poland and Russia, and they supported it do a limited degree during 
WWII in order to incite ethnic hatred (divide and conquer). This seems 
to have penetrated deep into modern Lithuanian consciousness, 
facilitating anti-Polish radicalization, as well as a preference to 
collaborate with German/Russian editors over Polish ones.

And I think that Lokyz, MK and Dan clearly consider Poland to be much 
more evil than Germany or Russia/Soviet, as their repeated alliances 
with both German nationalist editors (Matthead, etc.) and USSR Cabal 
Forever (Deacon, Irpen, etc.) has showed in the past. If they can hurt 
Poland they will, and this is a perfect proof that they are anti-Polish.

-- 
Piotr Konieczny

"The problem about Wikipedia is, that it just works in reality, not in 
theory."

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