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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:08:21 +0300
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 22:21, radek szulga <rsszulga@gmail.com> wrote:

> Man, Russavia is REALLY loosing it. I think the strategy now for the cartel
> is going to be to try and get one of us restricted in the similar way -
> since there's no way that after everything he said Russavia can have his ban
> revoked.


Never say never.  If Irpen were around, there would now quite a bit of
behind-the-scenes work done to convince Sandstein of his "error".  It may
still happen.

Also, look at Russavia's comment to NVO.  It may be that Russavia is going
for martyrdom.  His own funding may have run out, but he might be able to
recruit a few True Believers this way for free.

So everyone must be on best behavior, especially Martin whom Russavia is
> particularly singling out for abuse.


Also, any attempts to equivocate Russavia's obvious misdeeds with our
not-so-obvious misdeeds must be promptly classified as examples of combative
attitude.  It can't be done too explicitly, I've come to understand: the
goal is to make any administrator with itchy fingers to "figure it out by
himself".

Peters' letter to Sandstein may be quite useful a device in convincing
Sandstein that Peters cares about his integrity.  It can't be repeated *too*
similarly, but demonstrating to Sandstein that Martin is open to criticism,
should Sandstein find anything to criticise, would very probably be a useful
thing to do.

-- 
Andres Soolo

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 22:21, radek szulga <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rsszulga@gmail.com">rsszulga@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Man, Russavia is REALLY loosing it. I think the strategy now for the cartel=
 is going to be to try and get one of us restricted in the similar way - si=
nce there&#39;s no way that after everything he said Russavia can have his =
ban revoked.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Never say never. =C2=A0If Irpen were around, there woul=
d now quite a bit of behind-the-scenes work done to convince Sandstein of h=
is &quot;error&quot;. =C2=A0It may still happen.</div><div><br></div><div>A=
lso, look at Russavia&#39;s comment to NVO. =C2=A0It may be that Russavia i=
s going for martyrdom. =C2=A0His own funding may have run out, but he might=
 be able to recruit a few True Believers this way for free.</div>
<div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">So everyone must be on best =
behavior, especially Martin whom Russavia is particularly singling out for =
abuse.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Also, any attempts to equivocate Russavia&#39;s obvious=
 misdeeds with our not-so-obvious misdeeds must be promptly classified as e=
xamples of combative attitude. =C2=A0It can&#39;t be done too explicitly, I=
&#39;ve come to understand: the goal is to make any administrator with itch=
y fingers to &quot;figure it out by himself&quot;.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Peters&#39; letter to Sandstein may be quite useful a d=
evice in convincing Sandstein that Peters cares about his integrity. =C2=A0=
It can&#39;t be repeated *too* similarly, but demonstrating to Sandstein th=
at Martin is open to criticism, should Sandstein find anything to criticise=
, would very probably be a useful thing to do.</div>
<div><br></div><div>--=C2=A0</div></div>Andres Soolo<br>

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