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## Fwd: DISCUSSION - Spanish protesters

Released on 2012-09-27 00:00 GMT

Email-ID | 2275563
Date | 2011-11-11 19:22:23
From | tim.french@stratfor.com
To | jacob.shapiro@stratfor.com

HAHAHAH
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From: "George Friedman" <friedman@att.blackberry.net>
To: "Reva Bhalla" <bhalla@stratfor.com>, "Analysts Analyst List" <analysts@stratfor.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:42:15 AM
Subject: Re: DISCUSSION - Spanish protesters
More statements like preislers coming from germany
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: Reva Bhalla <bhalla@stratfor.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:40:20 -0600 (CST)
To: Benjamin Preisler<ben.preisler@stratfor.com>
Cc: <friedman@att.blackberry.net>; Analyst List<analysts@stratfor.com>
Subject: Re: DISCUSSION - Spanish protesters
what will it take to bring those types into the street?
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From: "Benjamin Preisler" <ben.preisler@stratfor.com>
To: "Analyst List" <analysts@stratfor.com>
Cc: "Reva Bhalla" <bhalla@stratfor.com>, friedman@att.blackberry.net
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:38:40 AM
Subject: Re: DISCUSSION - Spanish protesters
I'd really watch out to not overestimate these people's suffering (with all due respect to their personal plight). In Greece demonstrators are pretty much working insiders protecting their rents against a government actually being forced to reform. We're not talking about dirt-poor desperate people with no future such as in Tunisia. In Spain I believe demonstrations are more dominated by younger university educated types, protests are also much smaller. The same holds true for Italy I think. My point being, we're not looking at your typical 'revolutionary' potential of people with nothing to lose willing to risk anything. Those guys aren't out on the street yet. Once they are out there, these protests actually matter in a system-threatening manner until then I wouldn't worry about it too much.
On 11/11/2011 05:25 PM, Reva Bhalla wrote:
Europeans aren't protesting the approval of a new EU constitutional amendment. They're protesting out of fear that they're going to lose the roof on their heads. the more basic your demands, the more likely the protests will turn violent, and we can already see that the elites handling the crisis won't be able to manage this crisis in the end. the musical chairs we're seeing right now in the Greek and Italian governments is likely only the beginning. we have to see that as the manifestation of a much broader crisis in confidence, not on a national level, but on the european level.
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "George Friedman" <friedman@att.blackberry.net>
To: "Analysts Analyst List" <analysts@stratfor.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:14:24 AM
Subject: Re: DISCUSSION - Spanish protesters
Europe has not had mass violent protests since the 1960s although it has had violence and terrorism. Its been quiet since the 1990s if you ignore yugoslavia.
The europeans regard this new period as normal and the past as irrelevant. It seems to me that the radical shifts in structure returns europe to its prior state and with it mass violence becomes likely not just possible. Europe has a violent history and that history is not so long ago.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: Colby Martin <colby.martin@stratfor.com>
Sender: analysts-bounces@stratfor.com
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:10:30 -0600 (CST)
To: <analysts@stratfor.com>
ReplyTo: Analyst List <analysts@stratfor.com>
Subject: Re: DISCUSSION - Spanish protesters
I am not sure how you can argue European protesters are not going to turn to violence and the authorities won't resort to draconian measures to suppress them. Right now the unemployed still have those nice little social programs (especially in Spain) to support them so I agree right now they should remain low key. But if the gov't has to reduce those programs or cut them altogether, the protests could turn into bad in a hurry. I just want to make sure this isn't the European argument that "they" are more civilized, therefore violence is a thing of the past. (I throw up in my mouth a little every time a European tells me this)
On 11/11/11 9:51 AM, Antonio Caracciolo wrote:
I see your point, but what i dont agree with is when we imply that protests that happened in Tunisia can be compared to possible future ones in Europe. the word protests is very different when you compare north africa and european nations. A protest during the Arab spring, implied death injured and so on. A protest in europe (i.e Italy and Spain) is just a march that isnt a big deal. Rome marches were the same, nothing happened despite the fact that the Media made a big deal out of literally burnt cars by punks.
On 11/11/11 9:48 AM, Bayless Parsley wrote:
You're changing the argument. Your assertion that things can't spread from country to country because they are based on national issues is flawed. You have similar economic conditions in almost every European country at the moment. The issues aren't the same as what existed in the Arab world last winter, and nor are the nature of the regimes in power. No one is saying that. What we're saying is that Tunisia provides an example of how protest movements have the ability to spread to other countries that feature similar socioeconomic conditions.
On 11/11/11 9:38 AM, Antonio Caracciolo wrote:
Protests in Egypt that spread all over the place were based on the ability of people to say what they want and be able to get a decent rule of law and government. In Europe we have that, unfortunately we have a shitty economy, the protests are there but are unrelated because each country has its own way to approach the economic issues. We wont kill each other like people in north Africa, were past that, and again no offense to people from the region. Europeans live for the most part in democracies, expressing a discontent (which is what is happening now) is different from fighting for your freedom (i.e Egypt, Tunisia, Libya)
On 11/11/11 9:34 AM, Bayless Parsley wrote:
Without wading into the particulars of this discussion, I will just say that your logic re: national protests not being able to spread to other countries is flawed. How were the gripes of Egyptians last January related to the national uprising in Tunisia? And so on.
On 11/11/11 9:19 AM, Antonio Caracciolo wrote:
I personally don't agree with this statement "these protests could lead to an open societal crisis in Spain and spark to other countries". What we have in Europe is NATIONAL protests. These protests focus on the NATIONAL parliament and cannot therefore spread in Europe. You might have them in several countries but i dont think they spread because they are unrelated (despite the same economic shitty background) Plus, protests of this kind are usually peaceful, there is a decent level of understanding within the crowds that protests that killing each other isn't going to make a difference. Now we might have like always the 20 idiots that ruin it for everyone (think of the Rome revolts) but i dont foresee any dead or injured people. Protests dont automatically imply "bad" events to come
On 11/11/11 8:02 AM, Christoph Helbling wrote:
these protests could lead to an open societal crisis in Spain and spark to other countries. Are these protests going to breed the future leaders of Europe?
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Antonio Caracciolo
Analyst Development Program
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