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## Re: DISCUSSION - Spanish protesters

Released on 2012-03-23 07:00 GMT

Email-ID | 183498
Date | 2011-11-11 16:49:31
From | christoph.helbling@stratfor.com
To | analysts@stratfor.com
List-Name | analysts@stratfor.com

Ok lets put the idea of killing aside.
Still youth unemployment is at 46%! A lot of university graduates with
spare time to discuss and think. I'm sure they're discussing their future
and that looks shit, so something has to change in their opinion.
On 11/11/11 9:43 AM, Antonio Caracciolo wrote:
ahah well yea European revolutions took place. But what im saying is
that we are past that. Thats why i dont see these protests as actual
"protest" but rather as just expression of discontent in a very
democratic way.
On 11/11/11 9:43 AM, Bayless Parsley wrote:
1848
Europeans are no different than those Third World Arabs.
(With all due respect, of course.)
On 11/11/11 9:36 AM, Antonio Caracciolo wrote:
With all due respect to people in Tunisia and/or third world
countries, Europeans behave A LOT differently when it comes to
protests. That of course doesnt mean that stuff might go down. And i
totally see your concern with the Puerta del Sol square. What i
think is that in Tunisia stuff spread around for different reasons.
The arab spring type protests are of completely different nature
than the one in Europe.
On 11/11/11 9:31 AM, Christoph Helbling wrote:
The protests in Tunisia were national still they jumped to other
countries. I agree with you that we aren't likely to see a pan
European movement.
I was taking it a bit far when I was speaking about dead
protesters and in the case of Spain I'm not speaking about
protesters attacking each other like in Greece, I'm speaking about
clashes with the authorities. The regional government apparently
added the Puerta del Sol square to the ban list although it wasn't
on that list during the May elections. I might be reading it
wrongly but to me that seems like a provocation.
On 11/11/11 9:19 AM, Antonio Caracciolo wrote:
I personally don't agree with this statement "these protests
could lead to an open societal crisis in Spain and spark to
other countries". What we have in Europe is NATIONAL protests.
These protests focus on the NATIONAL parliament and cannot
therefore spread in Europe. You might have them in several
countries but i dont think they spread because they are
unrelated (despite the same economic shitty background) Plus,
protests of this kind are usually peaceful, there is a decent
level of understanding within the crowds that protests that
killing each other isn't going to make a difference. Now we
might have like always the 20 idiots that ruin it for everyone
(think of the Rome revolts) but i dont foresee any dead or
injured people. Protests dont automatically imply "bad" events
to come
On 11/11/11 8:02 AM, Christoph Helbling wrote:
these protests could lead to an open societal crisis in Spain
and spark to other countries. Are these protests going to
breed the future leaders of Europe?
--
Antonio Caracciolo
Analyst Development Program
STRATFOR
221 W. 6th Street, Suite 400
Austin,TX 78701
--
Christoph Helbling
ADP
STRATFOR
--
Antonio Caracciolo
Analyst Development Program
STRATFOR
221 W. 6th Street, Suite 400
Austin,TX 78701
--
Antonio Caracciolo
Analyst Development Program
STRATFOR
221 W. 6th Street, Suite 400
Austin,TX 78701
--
Christoph Helbling
ADP
STRATFOR