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### Viewing cable 05BRASILIA210, REGIONAL ISSUES: GOB VIEWS ON VENEZUELA-COLOMBIA

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05BRASILIA210 | 2005-01-24 15:35 | 2011-07-11 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Brasilia

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    This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BRASILIA 000210

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/24/2015
    TAGS: PREL BR
    SUBJECT: REGIONAL ISSUES: GOB VIEWS ON VENEZUELA-COLOMBIA
    DISPUTE AND SITUATION IN BOLIVIA

    REF: A. STATE 11483
         ¶B. BOGOTA 555
         ¶C. LA PAZ 193 AND 194

    Classified By: AMBASSADOR JOHN D. DANILOVICH. REASON: 1.4 (B)(D).

     ¶1. (C) Summary: Senior GOB officials told Ambassador and
    PolCounselor this week that Brazil is prepared to play an
    informal role in helping mediate a resolution to the
    Venezuela-Colombia dispute following the rendition of a FARC
    official from Venezuela to Colombia in recent days.
    President Lula da Silva met with President Uribe in Leticia
    on 20 January and spoke by phone to President Chavez the same
    day.  The GOB is counseling "good sense" and efforts to lower
    the tone and is optimistic that both governments want to
    avoid escalation.  Presidential envoy Marco Aurelio Garcia
    will see Chavez in Caracas on 22 January, and Chavez will
    attend the Porto Alegre Social Forum in Brazil next week,
    where he will meet Lula, affording other opportunities for
    GOB mediation.  On Bolivia, a senior presidency foreign
    affairs official said that the GOB does not believe there is
    imminent danger of a resignation by President Mesa, despite
    his threats, but remains intensely concerned about the
    unstable situation there.  End summary.

    VENEZUELA-COLOMBIA

    ¶2. (C) On 20 January Ambassador raised ref a points on the
    Venezuela-Colombia dispute with Ambassador Antonio Aguiar
    Patriota, chief of staff to FM Amorim, and asked for MRE
    views on the state of play.  Patriota responded that Amorim
    had spoken by phone with both President Uribe and President
    Chavez prior to President Lula's meeting in Leticia with
    Uribe on 20 January.  Patriota said Lula and Uribe discussed
    the dispute for an hour during their meeting, and that Lula
    had spoken the same day by phone with Chavez.  Lula had
    subsequently expressed the view that Chavez needed to be
    "handled very calmly."  Patriota said Brazil needs to
    maintain friendly relations with both neighbors and is
    prepared to act in an informal capacity to try to facilitate
    a resolution.  Ambassador Danilovich stressed USG concern
    about Chavez/Venezuelan connections with FARC and other
    foreign terrorist organizations, and reiterated our
    commitment to fight terrorism in the region and globally.  He
    also noted the mediation efforts of Peru's government in
    leadership of the Andean Community and urged the GOB to be
    supportive.  (Note: PolCounselor also provided demarche
    points to the foreign ministry's Andean division chief and to
    the international affairs office at the Presidency. End note.)

    ¶3. (U) On 20 January Presidential spokesman Andre Singer told
    journalists at Planalto that President Lula had discussed the
    dispute by telephone with Chavez and in Leticia with Uribe,
    and indicated that, "in as much as the two presidents took
    the initiative to touch on the subject with President Lula,
    it was understood that (Brazil) should act to facilitate a
    reapproximation between the two countries."

    ¶4. (C) PolCounselor followed up Singer's statement on 21
    January with a call to Marcel Biato (strictly protect),
    deputy foreign affairs advisor to Lula.  Biato said that Lula
    had counseled "good sense" and the need to cool off tensions
    by lowering the volume on public statements and looking for
    good-will gestures.  Essentially, Brazil will offer an
    informal channel for communication and good offices for the
    two governments "to find a way out," according to Biato.  It
    is the GOB's assessment that both the GOC and GOV are
    inclined to seek a resolution, since the GOB sees no
    political advantage to either side in an escalation.  Biato
    confirmed Lula's senior foreign affairs advisor, Marco
    Aurelio Garcia, will travel to Caracas on 22 January to see
    Chavez, a trip previously scheduled as a planning mission for
    Lula's February visit to Venezuela, but Biato said Garcia
    will further discuss with Chavez resolution options for the
    dispute.  Biato also noted that Chavez will travel to Brazil
    next week for the Porto Alegre Social Forum, which Lula is
    also planning to attend, providing additional opportunities
    for GOB mediation.  Biato added Lula was promised on the
    phone by Chavez that he would not make inflammatory
    statements while in Brazil (presumably against either the GOB
    or Colombia).

    BOLIVIA

    ¶5. (C) PolCounselor also asked Biato for views on the current
    tensions in Bolivia (Biato's boss, Marco Aurelio Garcia, has
    been to Bolivia as Lula's envoy).  Biato said he had talked
    to Brazil's Ambassador in La Paz, Antonino Mena Goncalves, at
    length on the evening of 20 January, and Goncalves indicated
    he had just consulted with other Ambassadors in La Paz
    (including, Biato presumed, Ambassador Greenlee) and the
    consensus was that there is not an imminent probability of
    Mesa's following through on his resignation threat.  Biato
    said that is the GOB view at the moment, but nonetheless
    there is intense concern that Mesa's concessions are
    weakening him, contributing to a situation so precarious that
    he sees a political necessity in "continuously threatening a
    plunge into chaos" (through resignation).  Biato confirmed
    Lula continues to try to "persuade by example" -- i.e.,
    stressing to opposition leader Evo Morales the importance of
    patience and adhering to constitutional processes in pursuing
    political legitimacy, as reflected in Lula's own personal
    rise to the presidency.  PolCounselor replied that the U.S.
    Embassy and Brazil's embassy in La Paz have discussed their
    shared questions about the nature of Chavez's influence on
    Morales (ref C), and asked whether there is GOB concern that
    Chavez's "mentoring" of Morales may be less salutary in
    content and effect than Lula's. Biato demurred on discussing
    the question in depth, saying only that the GOB believes
    Chavez is, at bottom, enough of a democrat to not stoke up
    instability in fragile Bolivia.

    ¶6. (C) Comment:  It appears the GOB, both in the Presidency
    and the foreign ministry, is willing to provide a
    conflict-resolution channel for Colombia and Venezuela, but
    wants to avoid a formalized, drawn-out role. We are seeking a
    meeting with Marco Aurelio Garcia, and will follow
    Chavez-Lula contacts on the issue in Porto Alegre (our Labor
    Attache will attend the forum and report for the Mission). On
    Bolivia, the GOB seems relatively hopeful that Mesa will
    remain; we anticipate the GOB would engage robustly, both
    politically and economically (e,g., taking steps to
    accelerate financial support) in the event of a dramatic
    deterioration.

    DANILOVICH

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