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### Viewing cable 08BOGOTA3747, UNDERSECRETARY GLASSMAN'S OCTOBER 1 MEETING WITH PRESIDENT URIBE

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08BOGOTA3747 | 2008-10-14 13:20 | 2011-08-21 12:30 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Bogota
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    C O N F I D E N T I A L BOGOTA 003747

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/15/2017
    TAGS: PHUM PGOV CO ECON PREL PTER ETRDEC EC BL VE
    SUBJECT: UNDERSECRETARY GLASSMAN'S OCTOBER 1 MEETING WITH PRESIDENT URIBE

    Classified By: Political Counselor John S. Creamer. Reason: 1.4(b,d)

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    SUMMARY
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    ¶1.  (C) President Alvaro Uribe told Undersecretary for Public
    Diplomacy and Public Affairs James Glassman on October 1 that
    he appreciated President Bush's efforts to obtain
    congressional passage of the Andean Trade Promotion and Drug
    Eradication Act (ATPDEA) but voiced concerns over the impact
    of the U.S. financial bailout plan on Colombia's economy.
    Uribe stressed that Colombia remains committed to its model
    of security cooperation, democracy, and private investment
    despite growing economic and political uncertainty in the
    region. He praised U.S. initiatives to use demobilized FARC
    members to discourage violent extremism in Colombian
    universities. Uribe said the GOC's demobilization and
    reintegration programs are successful, but face challenges in
    creating jobs and combating recidivism. Uribe welcomed two
    new initiatives bulding on the internet network Facebook's
    experience in Colombia to mobilize civil society. END SUMMARY.

    ¶2.  (U) Participants:

    U.S.:
    -----

    Undersecretary for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs James
    Glassman
    Ambassador William R. Brownfield
    Adnan Kifayat, Senior Advisor to Undersecretary Glassman
    Jared Cohen, S/P
    Julie Chung, POL notetaker

    Colombian:
    ----------

    President Alvaro Uribe
    Vice Foreign Minister Maria Clara Isaza
    Frank Pearl, High Commissioner for Reintegration
    Jorge Mario Eastman,Presidential Advisor for Communications
    Patricia Cortes, MFA

    ----------------
    ATPDEA Extension
    ----------------

    ¶3.  (C) President Uribe told Undersecretary Glassman on
    October 1 that he appreciated President Bush's efforts in
    support of a congressional extension of the Andean Trade
    Promotion and Drug Eradication Act (ATPDEA).  Uribe said he
    thanked Secretary Rice by telephone yesterday. He voiced
    concern that a global credit crunch and U.S. financial
    problems would adversely impact Colombia's economy.  Despite
    various challenges, Colombia remains deeply appreciative of
    U.S. support and is committed to working with the USG to
    promote democratic security, investment, and social cohesion.

    -------------------------------
    Concerns over Regional Problems
    -------------------------------

    ¶4.  (C) Uribe said the regional political climate is
    complicated and warned that democratically-elected leaders
    could easily slide into dictatorship.  He noted that former
    Bolivian President Carlos Mesa told him recently that while
    most of Latin American seems unconcerned, Bolivia is
    teetering on the brink of disaster. Besides the hydrocarbon
    conflict, Bolivia faces a major challenge in trying to
    balance the indigenous majority's demand for economic justice
    against the minority's desire for greater autonomy.  Uribe
    said the GOB will need to assess its strategy carefully if it
    wants to attract foreign investment.  He noted that Venezuela
    has experienced prosperity in recent years due to oil
    production, but forecast a "grim" economic future as oil
    production stagnates, prices fall, and President Hugo Chavez'
    policies block private investment. This will be disastrous
    for Venezuela. It will also hurt Colombia, which exported $5
    billion to its neighbor last year, mostly in labor-intensive
    manufactured goods and food products.

    ¶5.  (C) In Ecuador, Uribe said President Rafael Correa's
    victory in the September 28 constitutional referendum will
    simply accelerate the slide to socialism. Ecuador is a deeply
    divided country, and Correa faces strong opposition from the
    media and business community. He predicted that Ecuador's
    constitutional assembly will likely make bad decisions,
    including limiting press freedom and privatizations, during
    the transition to a new legislature.  In this environment,
    Colombia's model of security, investment, and democracy is an
    important alternative and will need continued U.S. support.
    U/S Glassman recognized Colombia's important role in the
    hemisphere and agreed its model is a positive force in the
    region. He also expressed shared concern over Venezuela and
    Ecuador, commenting that private capital might be able to
    shape their governments' behavior in the long run.

    ----------------------------------------
    Demobilization and Reintegration Working
    ----------------------------------------

    ¶6.  (C)  Uribe said the GOC's demobilization and
    reintegration program continues to be a success despite being
    difficult and expensive. Over 48,000 former fighters have
    demobilized or deserted, 13,000 of whom were members of the
    Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) or the National
    Liberation Army (ELN). He said paramilitary groups have been
    dismantled, and the new criminal bands do not fight the FARC
    or ELN.  The GOC estimates 3500 members of new illegal groups
    are involved in narcotrafficking, including some relapsed
    paramilitaries. Uribe stressed that the educational programs
    and vocational training continue smoothly, but added that the
    reintegration program faces challenges in creating jobs for
    the demobilized. High Commissioner for Reintegration Frank
    Pearl said the program has created 2800 jobs--including 600
    in the private sector and 800 through business ventures.
    Still, of the 21,000 demobilized with jobs, 70% work in the
    unstable, informal sector.

    ¶7.  (C) Uribe congratulated U/S Glassman's planned visit
    later that day to Vista Hermosa in Meta department. Formerly
    a hotbed of FARC violence and coca cultivation, Vista Hermosa
    is now the center of GOC efforts to permanently retake land
    from FARC control. The GOC faces challenges in meeting
    popular demands for better infrastructure, as well as
    improved health care and education.  Still, Uribe said the
    GOC provides relief to local residents through the "Families
    in Action" and the "Family Forest Ranger" programs. The
    latter encourages communities to work collectively for drug
    eradication. For example, once the United Nations High
    Commission for Human Rights (UNHCHR's) certifies that that a
    farm is drug-free, each family receives $2000 per year.

    ----------------------------
    War of Ideas: FARC and Youth
    ----------------------------

    ¶8. (C) U/S Glassman explained the U.S.initiative to connect
    demobilized FARC members with the online networking Facebook
    group that united youth worldwide against the FARC.  To
    combat the romantic notions of the FARC held by many
    Colombian youth, demobilized FARC will address students at
    universities to explain the realities of terrorist groups and
    their deceptive recruitment tactics. The Colombian Facebook
    group will also share its experience at an international
    conference of similar youth organizations to strengthen
    ground-up efforts to combat violent extremism. Uribe praised
    the idea and expressed confidence that despite challenges,
    Colombians would not allow its path of security, democracy,
    and peace to reverse course.

    ¶9. (U) U/S Glassman has cleared this cable.
    BROWNFIELD

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