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### Viewing cable 05BRASILIA2231, BRAZIL: AMBASSADOR AND FOREIGN MINISTER AMORIM

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05BRASILIA2231 | 2005-08-19 17:55 | 2011-07-11 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Brasilia

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    This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

    191755Z Aug 05

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BRASILIA 002231

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/19/2015
    TAGS: PREL MARR BR UNSC US
    SUBJECT: BRAZIL: AMBASSADOR AND FOREIGN MINISTER AMORIM
    DISCUSS HAITI AND OTHER ISSUES, 19 AUGUST 2005

    REF: STATE 149277

    Classified By: AMBASSADOR JOHN DANILOVICH. REASONS: 1.4(B)(D).

     ¶1. (C) Introduction: Ambassador, accompanied by PolCouns,
    met on 19 August 2005 with Foreign Minister Celso Amorim and
    his chief of staff, to review a range of issues (with focus
    on reftel Haiti demarche) and discuss the Ambassador's
    departure from Brazil later in the year to assume the Chief
    Executive Officer position at the Millennium Challenge
    Corporation.  Amorim congratulated the Ambassador on the MCC
    appointment, while expressing regret at his departure, and
    listened with interest to explanations of the functioning and
    mission of the MCC as envisaged by the USG and congress.
    Amorim said that he is considering a trip to the United
    States on 27 September to address the U.S.-Brazil Business
    Council, but would only go if he could also secure a
    "substantive" meeting on that date with Secretary Rice, where
    he would hope to discuss Haiti and UN reform. (Ambassador
    undertook to follow-up with Department.)  Detailed reporting
    of the meeting, issue by issue, follows below.  End
    introduction..

    HAITI
    -----

    ¶2. (C) FM Amorim, on his own initiative, raised Haiti with
    Ambassador.  Noting his discussions on Haiti with Secretary
    Rice on the margins of the OAS General Assembly and in a
    subsequent telcon, Amorim said he believed the USG and GOB
    are in substantial agreement on most aspects of the way
    ahead.  Amorim then raised the following concerns and
    questions:

    --Brazil and other MINUSTAH contingents had launched
    successful "robust operations" in areas of Port-au-Prince
    over the past several weeks, Amorim said.  In that context,
    he asked about USG funds for civil affairs and humanitarian
    projects that he had been led to understand would follow
    immediately on forceful MINUSTAH suppression actions against
    gangs and violent groups.  Amorim could not cite specific
    information about the funds, but reiterated that the GOB had
    believed targeted assistance efforts would come immediately
    in the wake of military operations, in order to consolidate
    stability and gain public good will. He said reports he was
    receiving did not indicate that such efforts had moved ahead,
    and Amorim stressed their importance.

    --A second priority, Amorim opined, was the urgent need to
    reinforce the size and capacity of MINUSTAH's police
    component.  Follow-up actions with the civilian population in
    the wake of military operations, as well as general public
    order efforts and training of local police, are best carried
    out by civilian police contingents, rather than soldiers,
    Amorim opined.

    --Thirdly, Amorim asked to work with the USG on broad public
    diplomacy efforts that can increase the international and
    Brazilian publics' understanding and support for MINUSTAH's
    mission in Haiti. Noting the protests and criticism by some
    NGOs that followed MINUSTAH's aggressive recent actions, and
    the risk of "collateral damage" to civilians inherent always
    in such operations, Amorim said there is a need to counter
    negative reactions with a strong message that focuses on the
    assistance and stability that MINUSTAH and the international
    community are trying to bring to Haiti.

    ¶3. (C) Ambassador undertook to follow up with Washington on
    the questions and issues raised by Amorim, and then made
    reftel demarche points to Amorim on the importance of
    maintaining a strong MINUSTAH presence in Haiti beyond the
    February 2006 elections. (Note: PolCouns had also provided
    reftel demarche points on 15 August to MRE Assistant
    Secretary for International Organization Affairs Antonio

    SIPDIS
    Guerreiro.  End note.)  Amorim said that he agreed with
    reftel's position.  He added that President Lula da Silva has
    also come to believe that a solid international presence over
    a longer term beyond the election and a carefully planned
    draw down are essential for Haiti's stability.  Amorim noted
    that Lula had recently viewed a documentary on the Rwanda
    genocide which had left a strong impression, and the
    president had told Amorim that Brazil must remain committed
    in Haiti and do everything it can to assure the country does
    not face a violent meltdown.  Amorim expressed high
    confidence in Brazil's new ambassador in Port-au-Prince and
    in the new Brazilian MINUSTAH commander, and also expressed
    gratitude for USG support for retaining a Brazilian in
    overall command of the mission.  Amorim did note that
    election year debates and pressures in 2006 may become a
    factor for the GOB in defending its continued commitment in
    MINUSTAH, and hence a public diplomacy effort, per comments
    above, could be helpful.  Amorim also said Brazil continues
    to work on its national assistance projects with Haiti,
    notably a waste treatment facility and a school meals
    program, but that these had moved slowly and were on a
    limited scale in comparison to USG assistance plans.

    OAS SOCIAL CHARTER
    ------------------

    ¶4. (C) Ambassador raised USG concerns regarding Venezuelan
    Government efforts to put forward a draft Social Charter for
    the OAS at a GOV-sponsored "ministerial" meeting in Caracas
    on 28 August.  He stressed that the USG will not send a
    ministerial-level representative.  The USG believes, he
    added, that the national proposal coming from Venezuela does
    not merit special consideration.  U.S. and other member
    states also have contributions and views that must be taken
    into account in discussing a charter.  Amorim replied that he
    definitely would not be attending the Caracas meeting, and
    was not aware of plans to attend by any other GOB minister.
    The GOB position is that a social charter, as with other OAS
    documents, must be a product of consensus and appropriate
    institutional discussions among all OAS member states, Amorim
    affirmed.

    COMPULSORY LICENSING
    --------------------

    ¶5. (C) Ambassador voiced continued USG concerns about the
    potential for compulsory licensing of U.S. HIV/AIDS
    medications in Brazil.  Amorim replied that he strongly
    prefers a negotiated settlement of the question with U.S.
    companies, and will continue to work with the health ministry
    and others to achieve that outcome.  Amorim did opine that,
    in his view, U.S. companies need to produce more
    forward-leaning proposals for negotiation.  Further, Amorim's
    view is that it is legitimate under the TRIPS mechanism for
    Brazil to implement compulsory licensing given the free,
    public health aspect of its HIV/AIDS programs, if a
    negotiated outcome is not reached.   Ambassador noted that
    this would be a misuse of TRIPS, in the USG's view.  Amorim
    rejoined that he and his ministry seek a negotiated accord.

    POSSIBLE POTUS VISIT
    --------------------

    ¶6. (C) Amorim asked about plans for a POTUS visit later in
    the year, and was assured by Ambassador that planning
    continues apace for a visit and there may be a public
    announcement after in the near future.  Amorim and the
    Ambassador agreed that a two-stop visit, including Brasilia
    and one other destination in Brazil, would be attractive and
    should be further considered.  A visit would be salutary for
    bilateral relations, both agreed, as would further efforts to
    develop joint U.S.-Brazil assistance projects in both Haiti
    and Africa.

    ¶7. (C) Comment. Amorim was relaxed and amiable in the
    forty-minute meeting, and Haiti was clearly his central
    theme.  His personal commitment appears solid, and we also
    believe that Lula likely considers the Brazilian-led Haiti
    mission as a legacy achievement for his mandate.  Hence the
    GOB appears to be on board with contributing to a continued
    international presence beyond the February 2006 elections,
    but its worries about negative public-relations blowback from
    forceful military operations may continue and intensify as
    Brazil's own 2006 elections approach, and if the corruption
    scandals rocking Lula's government weaken GOB credibility in
    defending a mission that does not enjoy a broad base of
    support in Brazilian society.  On that point, Amorim's
    appeals for a public diplomacy campaign and immediate civil
    affairs and humanitarian projects to consolidate Haitian
    support are real and urgent requests for efforts that may
    reinforce the GOB's position with its own public.

    DANILOVICH

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