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### Viewing cable 08BRASILIA288, Brazil: CEO Forum Members meetings Feb 20

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    SUBJECT: Brazil: CEO Forum Members meetings Feb 20

    ¶1. (SBU) SUMMARY: CEO co-chair Tim Solso (CEO Cummins) and Brazilian
    CEO Forum representatives Jorge Gerdau (CEO, Gerdau SA) and Flavio
    Leite (representing Josue Gomes da Silva of Cotaminas) met with
    Embassy staff and MRE visas chief Mitzi Gurgel the morning of
    February 20 to discuss progress on CEO Forum priorities.  They were
    joined by Marco Antonio Stefanini (CEO Stefanini IT Solutions), APEX
    President Alessandro Teixera, MDIC staff and the Ambassador for
    further discussion at lunch.  The group, joined by Embraer CEO
    Mauricio Botelho, moved to Casa Civil for an afternoon discussion
    with Casa Civil Dilma Rousseff and MDIC Minister Miguel Jorge.  On
    behalf of the CEOs, Tim Solso underlined the need for demonstrated
    progress by the April 28 CEO Forum in Washington and identified six
    possible priority action areas:  1) transmission of a letter signed
    by the 20 CEOs to both governments identifying Doha priorities; 2)
    moving a GOB legislative proposal to revise Brazilian
    visa/immigration law forward to the congress; 3) Brazilian
    ratification of the TIEA and intensified discussions regarding a
    bilateral tax treaty; 4) initiating exploratory USG/GOB talks on a
    bilateral investment treaty/announcing the start of a negotiating
    process; 5) advancing civil aviation negotiations; and 6) a CEO
    initiative (no government assistance requested) to develop a
    corporate social responsibility fund.  Dilma Rousseff encouraged
    CEOs to concentrate on "achievable successes" rather than a full
    bilateral tax treaty, was receptive to bilateral investment treaty
    discussions while cautioning that inclusion of an international
    arbitration mechanism would be extremely difficult, believed
    progress on civil aviation seemed achievable while underlining Sao
    Paulo's infrastructure challenges were real and significant,
    welcomed a positive Doha outcome, and did not react regarding visas.
     END SUMMARY.

    ¶2.  (SBU) In the morning session, ECON and FCS provided updates on
    CEO Forum matrix priorities.  CON briefed the group on on-going
    efforts to address backlog and accelerating demand for visas to the
    United States, explaining that the number of visas adjudicated
    annually had more than doubled in the past three years, that the
    consular sections were in the process of expanding staff by almost
    40 percent, and that more resources would be committed until the
    backlog was brought down. MRE's Mitzi Gurgel noted a legislative
    proposal to update Brazilian immigration law currently awaited Casa
    Civil approval and transmission to congress for consideration.  If
    passed as proposed, the legislation would permit Brazil to offer 10
    year visas and eliminate the requirement that Brazilian visas must
    be used within 90 days of issuance.  MRE is also exploring a way to
    eliminate its visa processing fees (including the sixty dollar fee
    on business visas).  Gurgel cautioned, however, that new legislation
    would not be in place before 2010 at the earliest and may be
    significantly changed by the congress.  CEOs emphasized the need for
    demonstrable progress on Forum priorities by the April 28 event if
    the Forum is to maintain CEO interest in participation.

    ¶3. (SBU) In the CEOs' meeting with Dilma Rousseff and Miguel Jorge,
    Rousseff emphasized that unless it can be demonstrated how "revenue
    losses under a bilateral tax treaty can be stopped, we are not going
    to be able to do one" with the United States.  She stated GOB
    believes there is a "lack of balance" between gains to the United
    States and to Brazil under a BTT.  Rousseff indicated that in the
    coming weeks, GOB will "assess the format of the possible, the
    structure that will allow us to negotiate without losses."  She
    added that GOB "can not ignore segments harmful to parts of our
    economy; the challenge is to find win-win" areas.  CEO Gerdau noted
    CEOs are paying for a survey to examine cost-benefit and believe
    "the balance is there between our two countries."  Stefanini
    emphasized that "if we want to have a first-world economy," GOB must
    support mechanisms like a BTT and a bilateral investment treaty that
    will help companies expand and grow.  CEO Solso noted that companies
    like Cummins would invest more if a BTT were in place and smaller
    companies would be encouraged to invest - so revenue would in fact
    increase.  Rousseff agreed and said she had to be able to show that
    to the Finance Ministry and Receita Federal.  MDIC Jorge said CEOs
    needed to present a concrete, detailed proposal.  CEO Gerdau agreed.

    ¶4. (SBU) Dilma Rousseff underlined that progress on international
    arbitration mechanisms beyond the 1996 international arbitration law
    would be difficult.  While MDIC Jorge indicated that perhaps
    international arbitration merited further discussion and
    consideration within GOB, and Rousseff encouraged further
    discussions with MRE and MDIC regarding possibilities for a
    bilateral investment treaty, Rousseff said twice she did not believe
    an agreement could include an international arbitration provision.
    Rousseff believed that dispute resolution clauses built into
    specific contracts were adequate and effective.  As an example, she
    pointed to successes she felt she had achieved during her Petrobras

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    tenure in resolving disputes with foreign countries based on
    contract provisions.

    ¶5. (SBU) COMMENT:  Continued engagement directly by the Forum
    members, as well as USG, with GOB will be essential to seeing
    short-term progress on issues such as moving visa legislation to the
    Congress and encouraging rapid ratification of the TIEA. In
    addition, CEOs, particularly on the Brazilian side, must concretely
    articulate the benefits to Brazil of a bilateral tax agreement and
    an investment agreement that includes international arbitration.
    Mission continues to press hard on these issues.  Ultimately, CEOs
    showing why these initiatives help them and help Brazil will be a
    crucial element in achieving medium-term progress.  Post was
    encouraged that Dilma Rousseff explicitly stated Brazil wants the
    money and sense of entrepreneurship that US companies bring to
    Brazil's economy, yet GOB clearly needs to be convinced more fully
    that agreements like a BTT or BIT that would encourage more American
    involvement in the Brazilian economy are truly a "win-win" in
    Brazil's economic interest as its own companies expand their trade
    and investment relationships.  END COMMENT

    SOBEL

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