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### Viewing cable 08HAVANA460, VISIT TO CUBA OF BRAZILIAN FOREIGN MINISTER AMORIM

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08HAVANA460 | 2008-06-17 14:41 | 2011-07-11 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | US Interests Section Havana

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L HAVANA 000460

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/16/2013
    TAGS: PREL PGOV PREF ETRD CU BR
    SUBJECT: VISIT TO CUBA OF BRAZILIAN FOREIGN MINISTER AMORIM

    REF: HAVANA 77

    Classified By: A/DCM Greg Adams for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)

    ¶1.  (C) Poloff met with Brazilian DCM Vilmar Coutinho (please
    protect) to discuss the May 30-31 visit to Cuba of Brazilian
    foreign minister Celso Amorim.  Amorim's visit was a
    follow-up to Brazilian President Lula da Silva's January 2008
    visit to Cuba (Reftel).  In addition to meeting with his
    counterpart, Cuban Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque,
    Amorim also met with Cuban President Raul Castro.  Coutinho
    himself did not attend this meeting, although Brazilian
    Ambassador Bernardo Pericas Neto did, as the lone GOB
    representative.  VP Carlos Lage, FM Perez Roque, and Minister
    of Basic Industries Marta Lomas Morales also attended the
    meeting between Amorim and Raul Castro.  The encounter was
    described as largely a social one, with the substantive
    meeting having occurred earlier between Amorim and Perez
    Roque, which Coutinho had attended.  Pericas informed
    Coutinho that Raul Castro appeared confident and comfortable
    in his role as Cuba's leader, and described Castro as being
    well-informed on a range of issues pertaining to the
    Brazil-Cuba bilateral relationship.

    ¶2.  (C) Coutinho noted that the GOB had not requested an
    audience with Raul Castro, though they were hoping the GOC
    would announce that Castro wished to meet with Amorim.
    Venezuelan FM Nicolas Maduro had received an audience with
    Castro a week earlier, and the Brazilians felt that it would
    be a significant gesture if the GOC made Castro available.
    Coutinho added that Cuban FM Perez Roque received an audience
    with Brazilian President Lula during an earlier visit to
    Brazil, and consequently the GOB felt they were owed
    reciprocal treatment.  Amorim also pressed for a commitment
    by Raul Castro to visit Brazil, but the latter would only say
    that Brazil would be "one of the first countries he would
    consider" for his first trip as head of state.

    ¶3.  (C)  According to Coutinho, during Amorim's conversation
    with Raul Castro, the Cuban leader stated that he had no
    intention of lifting the "tarjeta blanca" restriction on
    foreign travel by Cuban citizens at anytime in the near
    future.  In response to a query from Amorim, Castro stated
    firmly that lifting this restriction would result in Cubans
    departing the island en masse, the bulk of them heading for
    Mexico.  Castro believed this exodus would negatively
    influence the bilateral relationship between Mexico and Cuba.

    ¶4.  (C) Castro also denied that any significant change to
    Cuba's dual-currency system was in the works.  While he
    conceded that the Convertible Peso/Ordinary Peso system
    created deep divisions in Cuban society, he stated that any
    change in the exchange rate to favor the ordinary peso would
    spike inflation in Cuba and lead to devastating food
    shortages.

    ¶5.  (C) Coutinho described Amorim's proclamation to the press
    that Brazil wanted to become Cuba's primary trade partner as
    "unrealistic."  He noted that Brazil was not in a position to
    usurp Venezuela given the hefty subsidies offered to Cuba
    annually by Chavez.  Instead, Coutinho noted that Amorim's
    words were more a symbol to the GOC of the seriousness with
    which Brazil viewed its relationship with Cuba.

    ¶6.  (C) Coutinho noted that Brazil saw two concrete benefits
    from expanding ties with Cuba: 1) Brazil perceives Cuba to be
    influential within international organizations such as the
    NAM, and views Cuba's support as key in securing a permanent
    seat on the UN Security Council, and 2) Brazil is seeking to
    assert itself as a world power beyond South America, and sees
    Cuba as a stepping stone into the Caribbean and beyond.

    ¶7.  (C) Brazil remains firmly committed to not broach the
    subject of human rights with Cuba.  Coutinho said that doing
    so would "poison" the environment.  He asserted that Raul
    Castro only expressed an interest in meeting with Amorim
    because he knew the GOB would not discuss human rights.

    ¶8.  (C) The topic of Fidel Castro was not raised during
    Amorim's meeting with Raul Castro.

    ¶9.  (C) COMMENT:  Brazil sees the establishment of good
    relations with Cuba as the cornerstone of its Caribbean
    policy and very much desires a reciprocal visit from Raul

    Castro.  As Coutinho notes, the trade aspects of the
    relationship get lip service, but the Brazilians seem
    realistic about business opportunities in Cuba.  Raul Castro
    may wish very much to make Brazil one of his first foreign
    visits in order to cement further an economic relationship
    that can balance the inordinate influence of Venezuela.
    However, to do so he will either have to visit Venezuela
    first or have the internal political strength to overcome the
    perceived snub to Cuba's number one ally that would accrue
    from going first to Brazil.  At the moment neither option may
    be acceptable.

    PARMLY

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