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### Viewing cable 07CAIRO197, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PARLIAMENTARY BLOC LEADER CALLS

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07CAIRO197 | 2007-01-24 16:09 | 2011-04-20 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Cairo

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http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10055
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10059
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10057
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10069
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10067
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10076
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10078
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10056
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10059
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10081
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10079
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10075
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10077
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10079
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10070
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10082
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10083
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10058
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10068
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10071
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10072
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10080
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10076
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10058
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10074
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10073
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/10185

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 CAIRO 000197

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    NSC FOR WATERS AND DORAN

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/24/2017
    TAGS: PGOV PREL KISL KDEM EG
    SUBJECT: MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD PARLIAMENTARY BLOC LEADER CALLS
    FOR DIALOGUE WITH USG

    REF: A. 06 CAIRO 7171

    ¶B. CAIRO 144

    Classified By: Ambassador Francis J. Ricciardone,
    for reasons 1.5 (b) and (d).

    ¶1. (C) Summary: The parliamentary leader of the Egyptian
    Muslim Brotherhood (MB) made a recent public statement
    indicating a desire to initiate a "constructive dialogue"
    with Western governments, including the USG. Meanwhile,
    opposition press and Cairo think tanks are rife with rumors
    that some recently arrested senior MB members were advocating
    for direct dialogue with the USG directly prior to their
    arrests. End summary.

    ¶2. (U) On December 15, the MB's English-language website
    (ikhwanweb.com) posted a lengthy statement by Dr. Saad al
    Katatni, head of the MB's parliamentary bloc (full text of
    statement at para 4), calling for dialogue between the MB and
    Western governments. Some of his key points:

    --"There is really no other alternative for the West or
    Islamists but to engage in a constructive dialogue to reach a
    common ground based on the mutual understanding and the
    appreciation of diversity ... we are not satisfied with the
    status quo in the relations between the Islamists and the
    Westerners, and we strongly believe that a constructive
    dialogue is within reach ..."

    -- "Islamists need to revisit their views on the West ...
    Islamists have to realize that the West is not fundamentally
    anti-Islamic, and that some pro-democratic movements in the
    West are in fact willing to engage in dialogue and maintain
    relations with moderate Islamists ... Western governments,
    especially those of the EU and the United States, must
    present a clear vision regarding the democratization process
    in the Middle East and their willingness to respect the
    choice of the people in free elections regardless of the
    outcome ..."

    -- "We should work together in a civilized manner to reach a
    common ground on our differences without resorting to
    arrogant force or hateful violence. Consequently, Western
    governments need to answer a decisive question: What do they
    really expect from Islamists? In what formula will the West
    accept Islamists as partners? The West needs to identify a
    clear set of conditions upon which it is willing to deal with
    the Islamists instead of giving them an endless list of
    demands ..."

    -- "Western intellectuals, politicians, and policy makers
    need to realize the consequences of their policies in the
    Middle East, both in the long and short term. Propping up
    oppressive regimes will undermine the opportunity for
    peaceful change and reform and will reinforce the sentiment
    of radical Islamists, whose cause will become more popular as
    the support enjoyed by the moderates is not translated into
    political gain ..."

    ¶3. (C) In recent weeks the opposition press has carried
    allegations that some recently detained MB leaders had been
    openly advocating dialogue with the USG prior to their
    arrests (detentions reported reftels). According to this
    speculation, currently detained Second Deputy Supreme Guide
    Khairat al Shatir and Guidance Council member Mohamed Ali
    Beshr had been pushing within the MB bureaucracy for direct
    dialogue with the U.S. Embassy, prior to being arrested.
    While academics at the Al Ahram Center have also raised this
    gossip with poloff, we have no basis on which to gauge the
    authenticity of such reports.

    ¶4. (U) Begin text of Saad al Katatni statement:

    Dialogue Between Islamists and the West a Necessity

    Over the past several years, the relationship between the
    West and Islamic movements has become of vital importance,
    for several reasons. First, the Islamic movements have been
    on the rise in several Muslim countries for the past decade,
    but more so for the past few years. Both radical and
    moderate Islamic movements have been gaining more momentum,
    and have proved ) in their own way - to be key players in
    the political arena in Arab and Muslim worlds. Despite the
    ongoing crackdowns by regimes, moderate Islamic movements
    have successfully continued their peaceful struggle, and
    gained more popular support. Radical movements, on the other
    hand, have sharpened their capabilities and carried out more
    deadly terrorist attacks in several countries.

    The rise of Islamic movements could have been of minimal
    significance to Western societies, just as was the rise of
    the conservative right wing groups in the United States, for
    example, to the people of the Middle East a century ago.
    However, in the age of globalization where different corners
    of the world are interconnected, and in some cases
    interdependent, building mutual understanding is of the
    utmost importance to the interest of all parties and to
    global peace.

    Current relations between the Islamists and the West are not
    in their best possible shape. Several obstacles hinder the
    development of strong, healthy relations between both sides.
    The West,s support of oppressive regimes in the Middle East
    is one of the major reasons behind Islamists, growing
    skepticism of the West,s genuine belief in democracy. The
    provoking example is the Hamas-led government, which has been
    democratically elected by the Palestinian people only to find
    itself under siege by the international community led by the
    United States and Europe. This act clearly illustrates a
    huge gap between the West,s political discourse and its
    political action in reality, a gap that undermines the trust
    between Islamists and the West.

    Western governments have been supporting authoritarian
    regimes in the region despite their flagrant violations of
    basic human rights and their lack of commitment to political
    and social reform. Moreover, the West continues to support
    the Egyptian regime despite the crimes it is committing
    against its political opponents, especially during the recent
    parliamentary elections in November 2005 where 11 voters were
    killed by police, and tens of others injured in order to
    prevent them from casting their votes. In addition, the
    imprisonment of political opposition leaders like Ayman Nour,
    Talaat al Sadat, and hundreds of Islamists including
    prominent, moderate and well known figures such as Dr. Esam
    el Eryan and Dr. Mohamed Morsi. The West also supported the
    regime in its standoff against judges, journalists, lawyers,
    workers, students, and other active elements of the civil
    society. At most, the Western governments publicly condemned
    the regime's harsh crackdowns, but never really pressured it
    for any real change on the ground.

    In the post-9/11 world, the rise of the conservative right in
    Western countries, such as the United States and some
    Scandinavian countries, and its influence over policy makers
    and the electoral process in general, added fuel to the
    tension between Islamists and Western governments. The
    conservative movements not only mistakenly branded all
    Islamists with terrorism, but also accused the moderate ones
    of working secretively to conquer the West and re-establish
    the Caliphate, and consequently rejected any dialogue with
    them. Therefore, a growing state of "Islamophopia" has been
    on the rise in the West, which created an unhealthy
    atmosphere for many Muslim minorities living in these very
    societies who have been subject to discrimination and racial
    profiling.

    Another reason behind the unhealthy relations between
    Islamists and the West is the refusal by many intellectuals
    and policy makers in the West to recognize the clear
    ideological difference between moderate and radical
    Islamists, insisting on lumping all of them together in one
    basket. In a recent poll conducted by Zogby International,
    fifty percent of Americans surveyed did not see any
    difference between the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda, which
    is a clear indication of the misinformation prevailing in
    Western societies about our movement.

    Finally, yet more importantly, one should not underestimate
    the effect of regimes in the Middle East in destroying the
    relations between the West and Islamists. As part of their
    survival strategies in power, these regimes try to monopolize
    their relations with the West, portraying their political
    opponents as undemocratic and anti-western who pose a threat
    to their interests, and therefore the regimes appear to the
    West as their "best alternative."

    Having said that, one has to ask the most crucial question;
    could there be a constructive dialogue between Islamists, the
    United States and the European Union? If yes, then how such
    a dialogue can take place?

    The answer to the first half of the question has to be yes.
    There is really no other alternative for the West or
    Islamists but to engage in a constructive dialogue to reach a
    common ground based on the mutual understanding and the
    appreciation of diversity. For such dialogue to be fruitful,
    openness and sincerity on both sides are a necessity.

    Islamists need to revisit their views on the West. They have
    to come to realize that different views can be present in one
    single Western society. Islamists have to realize that the
    West is not fundamentally anti-Islamic, and that some
    pro-democratic movements in the West are in fact willing to
    engage in dialogue and maintain relations with moderate
    Islamists, and accept the fact that Islamists and Islamic
    movements in general are the reflection of the people's true
    will.

    Islamists also need to overcome the obstacles put forward by
    the regimes and to reach out to the West explaining their
    views regarding issues that are of concern to Westerners.
    Islamists also need to present a clear and unambiguous vision
    about how the Western presence in the region (on the
    economic, political, cultural and military levels) will
    change if the Islamists were to come to power. So far,
    Islamists, views on these issues have been distorted, either
    by the media or by Islamists themselves in their inability to
    communicate their agenda in a Western-friendly format, and
    even sometimes by the regimes, or special interest groups
    opposing the rise of Islamists.

    Western governments, especially those of the EU and the
    United States, must present a clear vision regarding the
    democratization process in the Middle East and their
    willingness to respect the choice of the people in free
    elections regardless of the outcome. Such a clear vision has
    to be reflected in policies not just hollow promises and
    slogans.

    The West also needs to come to a realization that there will
    always be differences between the Islamists and the
    Westerners. However, Islamists will not impose their beliefs
    or way of life on Westerners just as Westerners should
    refrain from doing the same on Islamists. We both need to be
    culturally sensitive to each other's preferences and respect
    our differences in realizing that diversity will continue to
    exist, and is a part of the human experience.

    We should work together in a civilized manner to reach a
    common ground on our differences without resorting to
    arrogant force or hateful violence. Consequently, Western
    governments need to answer a decisive question: What do they
    really expect from Islamists? In what formula will the West
    accept Islamists as partners? The West needs to identify a
    clear set of conditions upon which it is willing to deal with
    the Islamists instead of giving them an endless list of
    demands. Western intellectuals, politicians, and policy
    makers need to realize the consequences of their policies in
    the Middle East, both in the long and short term. Propping
    up oppressive regimes will undermine the opportunity for
    peaceful change and reform and will reinforce the sentiment
    of radical Islamists, whose cause will become more popular as
    the support enjoyed by the moderates is not translated into
    political gain.

    Inevitably, the spread of radicalism will be manifested in
    terrorist attacks, both inside and outside the Middle East.
    New generations of frustrated and repressed individuals in
    the Middle East will resort to terrorism, which will be
    impossible to defeat in the so-called "war on terror". This
    "neo-terrorism" has already begun to take shape with the
    recent attacks that took place in Dahab, Sharm el Sheikh,
    Amman, just to name a few. The concern is that if tensions
    continue to mount due to oppression practiced by
    authoritarian regimes and sanctioned by their Western allies,
    terrorist attacks will be on the rise and will be a plague
    across the world.

    The West needs also to realize that, sooner or later, the
    will of the people will be victorious, as it was already in
    various parts of the world, and Islamists will eventually
    come to power, yet, they could come to power in completely
    different terms. If the West continues to support
    authoritarian and undemocratic regimes, and exclude Islamists
    from the political process, further stripping them of their
    ability to govern democratically, it will create an unhealthy
    and hostile relations between the West and Muslim countries
    in which Islamists assume partial or total power. Mutual
    skepticism will turn into distrust and the world will witness
    another phase of instability that threatens an imminent clash
    of civilizations. On the other hand, if the Islamists come
    to power in a context where there is a mutual understanding
    between them and the Westerners, there would be a larger
    possibility of building strong relations that reserve the
    interests of both sides.

    To conclude, we say that we are not satisfied with the status
    quo in the relations between the Islamists and the
    Westerners, and we strongly believe that a constructive
    dialogue is within reach, and that we should nourish these
    relations for the sake of humanity and to create a better
    future for our children and future generations to come.

    End text of statement.
    RICCIARDONE

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