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### Viewing cable 04WELLINGTON833, NEW ZEALAND: LUKEWARM RESPONSE TO CITES

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04WELLINGTON833 | 2004-09-30 04:55 | 2011-04-28 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Wellington

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    This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 WELLINGTON 000833

    SIPDIS

    DEPT FOR EAP/ANP, OES/OMC
    BANGKOK FOR ESTH

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/29/2014
    TAGS: SENV EFIS TBIO ETRD NZ
    SUBJECT: NEW ZEALAND: LUKEWARM RESPONSE TO CITES
    "INTRODUCTION FROM THE SEA" PROPOSAL FOR COP13

    REF: STATE 195377

    Classified By: POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC COUNSELOR KATHERINE B. HADDA,
    FOR REASONS 1.5 (B,D)

     ¶1. (C) Summary: The GoNZ is unlikely to support the U.S.
    draft resolution that aims to clarify the term "Introduction
    from the Sea."  New Zealand Ministry of Foreign Affairs and
    Trade (MFAT) interlocutors expressed skepticism that the
    draft submission as written will address illegal, unregulated
    and unreported (IUU) fishing.  They are also not sure that
    CITES is an appropriate forum for a discussion of flag state
    responsibilities.  Despite these reservations, the GoNZ would
    likely support the U.S. proposal if it appeared that a
    majority of other member states agreed.  End summary.

    ¶2. (U) Post delivered reftel demarche to the Environment
    Division of the New Zealand Ministry of Foreign Affairs and
    Trade (MFAT.)  MFAT discussed the U.S. proposal at a
    September 27 roundtable that included representatives from
    the Ministry of Environment and Ministry of Fish.  On
    September 28, Poloff discussed the roundtable's views with
    Emma Kerslake, an Australian Department of Foreign Affairs
    and Trade official seconded to MFAT's Environment Division,
    (NB: Kerslake did not attend the roundtable, but was given a
    read-out to convey to us.)

    ¶3. (C) Kerslake noted that the roundtable participants were
    unclear on the motivation behind the U.S. proposed draft
    resolution, and asked what specifically the U.S. hopes to
    achieve by its passage.  Kerslake noted that if the desired
    result was truly a desire to achieve better scientific data
    collection, there were more effective mechanisms.  Poloff
    responded that the resolution would assist in addressing IUU.
     While agreeing that IUU is a serious concern for NZ,
    Kerslake was skeptical that this proposal would enhance the
    accuracy of CITES trade data and specimen tracking, believing
    that a broader catch documentation scheme would be more
    effective.  Kerslake then noted that the proposed resolution
    would have no impact on the NZ fishing industry, as they do
    not have any need for IFS certificates ) neither harvesting
    endangered species nor allowing foreign flagged vessels to
    use NZ as a port of first landing for Article II species.

    Specific Questions
    ------------------

    ¶4. (C) Kerslake highlighted the following specific areas of
    concern and questions which she said were raised by GoNZ
    officials at the roundtable:

    -- Kerslake said the officials expressed concern over the
    proposal to allow agreements between the Management Authority
    of a State of first landing and a flag State, questioning why
    a flag state would be in a better position to regulate than a
    landing authority.  She acknowledged, however, that it might
    be valuable for a landing authority to be able to request
    information from a landing vessel's government.

    -- Para. 13:  Is CITES the best forum for a discussion of the
    responsibilities of flag states?

    -- Para. 19:  Would the landing authority be empowered under
    the proposal to get this information from the flag state? If
    so, GONZ agrees this would be an advantage in combating IUU.

    -- Para. 21:  While applauding the intent, Kerslake noted
    GONZ reservations at the ability of this resolution to impose
    on non-party states a determination by a regional or
    international management organization that a particular
    landing is detrimental.

    We can be convinced
    -------------------

    ¶5. (C) Kerslake noted that the GoNZ would likely support the
    U.S. proposal if it appeared that a majority of member states
    agreed.  However, should the resolution appear unlikely to be
    passed, she suggested the U.S. consider proposing as a
    separate resolution a definition of "in the marine
    environment not under the jurisdiction of any State."
    Kerslake said the GoNZ would support this.

    Comment
    -------

    ¶6. (C) As noted, Kerslake is an employee of the Australian
    DFAT, and has previously worked on fisheries issues for
    Australia, although she is not familiar with CITES in
    particular.  She was very forthright during the meeting, and
    admitted that her interpretation might be more direct than
    that intended by New Zealand interlocutors.  It is likely
    that the GoNZ delegation in Bangkok will appear to be more
    conciliatory, and may not couch their concerns in the same
    language.  However, it appears that the GoNZ's skepticism
    about the need for and the language in the U.S. resolution is
    genuine.
    Burnett

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