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### Viewing cable 07CAIRO2801, DEFENSE MINISTER TANTAWI ON MIL-TO-MIL RELATIONS

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07CAIRO2801 | 2007-09-16 15:37 | 2011-04-20 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Cairo

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L CAIRO 002801

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/15/2012
    TAGS: PREL EAID KPAL EG IS
    SUBJECT: DEFENSE MINISTER TANTAWI ON MIL-TO-MIL RELATIONS

    Classified By: Ambassador Francis J. Ricciardone for reasons
    1.4(b) and (d).

    Summary
    --------

    ¶1.  (C)  On September 16, Minister of Defense Field Marshal
    Tantawi and the Ambassador discussed the impact of the FMF
    debates on the overall relationship, the state of mil-to-mil
    relations, border security, the under-disbursement of FMF in
    FY07, and the peace process.  Tantawi said that the U.S. and
    Egypt must work to strengthen the mil-to-mil relationship
    despite occasional differences on individual issues.  He also
    warned that Egypt's history with colonialism, occupation and
    war still impacts Egypt's foreign relations.  On border
    security, Tantawi reiterated his long-standing request to
    deploy and equip another unit of Border Guard Forces (BGF) to
    counter smuggling on the Gaza border.  Assistant Minister of
    Defense MG Fouad abd el Halim said that factors out of
    Egypt's control led to the under-disbursement of FMF this
    year, but predicted that Egypt would spend all available
    funding in FY08.  The Ambassador encouraged Egypt to play a
    strong and supportive role as the U.S. works to advance the
    peace process.  (Note:  Just two hours after the meeting, MG
    Fouad advised us that the Minister has ordered that all
    border security-related procurement be placed at the top of
    Egypt's prioritized list of cases for FY08.  End note.)  End
    summary.

    FMF: The Ten-year Package and Conditioning FMF
    --------------------------------------------- -

    ¶2.  (C)  Minister of Defense Field Marshal Tantawi told the
    Ambassador on September 16 that the mil-to-mil relationship
    had always been the leading component of the broader
    bilateral relationship and said, with some lament, "I don't
    know what happened."  The Ambassador highlighted BRIGHT STAR
    and the MCC as opportunities for positive engagement and
    reaffirmed the Administration's commitment to sustaining FMF
    at USD 1.3 billion for another ten years beginning in FY09.
    The Ambassador also reminded Tantawi that Senate
    Appropriations staff member Paul Grove told the Minister in
    July 2007 that the FMF amount is not sacred -- it is not
    guaranteed and could be adjusted up or down -- and that there
    must be a solid annual justification for the assistance.
    Commenting on the decision to increase FMF for Israel,
    Tantawi said "my advice is that the U.S. should maintain a
    balance;" the "main job of the Embassy," in his view, is to
    convince Congress of the importance and uniqueness of the
    relationship with Egypt.  Assistant Minister of Defense for
    Armament MG Fouad abd el Halim also said the U.S. should
    maintain the traditional 3-to-2 assistance ratio between
    Israel and Egypt.

    ¶3.  (C) Tantawi said that the assistance debates impact not
    only the military and other government officials, but also
    the Egyptian people, who are "intelligent and sensitive."
    Referring to the 2007 amendment by Representative Obey,
    Tantawi said that "those in Congress who would try to
    pressure Egypt through the military on issues regarding the
    judiciary, police or borders should know this will not work."
     President Mubarak was very angry about this development,
    Tantawi explained -- it was carried out as though Egypt is
    weak and can be ordered to do things.  "It could have been
    handled another way," he said, again highlighting the
    sensitivity of the Egyptian people to what they perceive as
    foreign interference.  Tantawi then recounted that when he
    was a boy, a British officer ordered him to leave the public
    sidewalk in central Cairo and to cross the street so as to be
    out of the way.  "This was in my own country," Tantwai said;
    "I was not doing anything wrong."  "Colonialism, the wars and
    Israeli occupation of Sinai are historic issues that we can't
    leave behind."

    Mil-to-Mil Cooperation
    ----------------------

    ¶4.  (C) The Ambassador and Tantawi acknowledged that there
    are issues in the mil-to-mil relationship on which the U.S.
    and Egypt differ.  Tantawi said that at times "circumstances
    will not allow us to be flexible," but he urged the
    Ambassador to advise him of issues in which the U.S. would
    like more cooperation.  Tantawi recalled a 1977 incident in
    which he was the Defense Attache in Islamabad when Egypt's
    Minister of Defense, who was passing through Islamabad,
    learned that China claimed not to have MIG parts that Egypt's
    Minister of Defense had requested.  Tantawi approached his
    U.S. counterpart for guidance on how to handle the
    "impossible" explanation by the Chinese, and said that
    "within hours" the U.S. contact had provided him a full list
    of all of the parts the U.S. knew the Chinese would have.

    ¶5.  (C)  Border security, the Ambassador said, remains a high
    priority for the USG, and asked the Minister to increase to
    750 the number of Border Guard Forces (BGF) on the border
    with Gaza and to do everything else possible to stem
    smuggling.  Tantawi repeated his long-standing request that
    Israel agree to allow Egypt to deploy another border guard
    unit (with equipment), noting that the current number of
    troops is insufficient to patrol the 14 kilometer border with
    Gaza, and even less the 28 kilometer Mediterranean Sea coast
    of Zone C.  "Israeli PM Olmert promised me last year that he
    would work on this," Tantawi said, but nothing came of it.
    "Instead of tying our hands behind our backs and then
    demanding that we do something," Tantawi said that the
    Israelis should explain how they would do a better job on the
    border.  (Note:  MG Fouad called poloff after the meeting to
    report that the Minister had ordered that all border
    security-related procurement cases be ranked as the highest
    priority cases for FY08.  End note).

    FMF Management
    --------------

    ¶6.  (C)  The Ambassador cautioned that the FY07
    under-disbursement of FMF must be addressed quickly.  MG
    Fouad explained that he is confident that with a Financial
    Management Review (FMR) in early 2008, the U.S. and Egypt
    will succeed in scheduling disbursement of over USD 2 billion
    in FY08 to make up for the shortfall in FY07.  Egypt cannot
    control most of the factors that cause the problem, Fouad
    said.  Poorly performing cases, State's slow processing of
    36b congressional notifications for the Beechcraft, Stingers,
    APCs and M1A1, and the fact that the services have held over
    "200 Letters of Request" (all still requiring Letters of
    Acceptance) have all led to a shortfall in FY07 spending.
    Although Egypt has only spent 900 million thus far in FY07,
    Fouad said, MoD expects nonetheless to spend USD 1.1 billion
    by Oct. 1.  Fouad promised to present at the FMR a complete
    list of prioritized cases (already approved by the Field
    Marshal) for FY08.

    Peace Process
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    ¶7.  (C) The Ambassador stressed the importance of Egypt's
    support for the U.S. efforts to advance the peace process,
    always a matter at the core of the U.S.-Egyptian partnership.
     Lately, however, Egypt's role has appeared more passive than
    that of other Arabs, including the Palestinians themselves.
    RICCIARDONE

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