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### Viewing cable 05OTTAWA3228, AMBASSADOR MEETS PARLIAMENT'S BORDER CAUCUS

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05OTTAWA3228 | 2005-10-28 21:12 | 2011-04-28 00:00 | UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY | Embassy Ottawa

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    This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

    282112Z Oct 05

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    UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 03 OTTAWA 003228

    SIPDIS

    SENSITIVE

    FOR WHA/CAN, H, AND CA/PPT

    E.O. 12958: N/A
    TAGS: PREL ECIN ETRD CPAS ASEC CMGT CA
    SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR MEETS PARLIAMENT'S BORDER CAUCUS

    SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED--PLEASE PROTECT ACCORDINGLY.

    ¶1.  (U) Summary:  Ambassador Wilkins and Minister Counselor
    of Consular Affairs Keith Powell met for 75 minutes with
    Parliament's Border Caucus on October 26, fielding questions
    on subjects ranging from the new travel document requirements
    of the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) to the
    softwood lumber dispute.  The Ambassador urged Border Caucus
    members and their constituents to register their views on the
    WHTI during the present comment period.  He also advised that
    Canada and the United States should not let disagreement on
    individual issues (e.g., softwood lumber) sour the broader
    collaborative and cooperative relationship.  Though a few
    prickly issues were raised, the tone of the meeting was
    positive and cordial.  End summary.

    ¶2.  (U) The Border Caucus, a multiparty group of 37 Members
    of Parliament whose ridings are adjacent to or affected by
    the border, invited the Ambassador to join its October 26
    meeting.  The Border Caucus was formed one year ago, largely
    as the result of efforts by Russ Hiebert, Conservative MP
    from British Columbia.  Hiebert and three other MPs are
    co-chairs:  Claude Banchand (Bloc, Quebec), Roger Gallaway
    (Liberal, Ontario), and Brian Masse (NDP, Ontario).

    ¶3.  (U) After his introduction by Hiebert, the Ambassador
    addressed about 22 members of the Border Caucus for 10
    minutes, relating his experiences and impressions after four
    months on the job in Ottawa.  He expressed appreciation for
    the warm welcome he has received throughout Canada (he has
    visited the three Canadian territories and all but one
    province).  The Ambassador noted that when the U.S. has been
    in need, such as the 9/11 attacks and Hurricane Katrina,
    Canada has been the first to offer help.  When President Bush
    visited Canada in November 2004, he thanked Canada for its
    assistance following 9/11.  During Secretary Rice's visit
    this week, she also offered the thanks of America for
    Canada's quick and generous efforts to aid the victims of
    Katrina.  The Ambassador offered to take questions about any
    issues of concern to the MPs.  He urged them to remember,
    however, that while there are small irritants in our
    relationship, the broader Canada-U.S. partnership is strong,
    mutually supportive, and pervasive.

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    WHTI
    ----

    ¶4.  (U) As anticipated, the most urgent concern of the Border
    Caucus members is the WHTI and its requirement that by
    January 2008, everyone entering the United States, including
    those entering by the land border with Canada, must hold  a
    passport or similarly secure travel document.  Caucus members
    worry that business, tourism, and casual travel could all
    suffer because of the WHTI.  The first question came from
    Conservative MP Rob Nicholson of Niagara Falls, who has four
    border crossings in his riding.  Nicholson asked if, because
    of the unique Canada-U.S. relationship, Canadians might be
    exempted from the new travel document requirement.  The
    Ambassador replied that the new documentary requirement was
    still "a work in progress" and said that Nicholson and the
    others should make their views known during the comment
    period that runs until October 31.  He added that it is
    unlikely there would be an exemption for Canadians to
    whatever documentary requirements are decided upon since all
    travelers, including American citizens, will be expected to
    adhere to the new regulations.

    ¶5.  (SBU) Replying to a question from Bloc MP Claude Bachand,
    the Ambassador, joined by Consular head Powell, suggested
    that the most productive way to respond to the WHTI
    requirements would be to find ways to make them workable.
    Bachand reported that Parliament had recently passed a
    (nonbinding) motion against a passport requirement for
    crossing the Canada-U.S. border.  The Ambassador and Powell
    emphasized that no final rule has been issued yet and
    suggested that MPs submit comments and work with their
    counterparts in the U.S. Congress and Senate to address the
    common concerns of border legislators regarding the WHTI.
    They explained that there is discussion of an alternative to
    a passport--a lower cost, laminated card like a credit
    card--that would trigger transmission of data to a border
    inspector's monitor as a traveler approached the port of
    entry.  The Ambassador and Powell pointed out that rather
    than impeding cross-border movement, the use of technology,
    coupled with standardized documents, may make crossing the
    land border much faster and easier than it is today.

    ---------------
    Softwood lumber
    ---------------
    ¶6.  (SBU) Prefacing his remarks by saying that "we detest
    those who play the anti-American card," Stockwell Day,
    Conservative from British Columbia, raised the softwood
    lumber dispute.  He asked for specifics of the various
    rulings.  The Ambassador explained that while the recent
    NAFTA panel had ruled against the United States, the WTO had
    ruled in favor.  The Ambassador noted that there would likely
    be another ruling on October 28.  The Ambassador said, "If I
    could fix this problem, I would."  He urged Border Caucus
    members to keep softwood in perspective:  it is a trade
    dispute, and only one small aspect of our much larger trading
    relationship.  He cautioned that too much Canadian rhetoric
    about softwood lumber could create a negative reaction in
    Washington.

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    Potpourri
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    ¶7.  (U) Larry Bagnell, Liberal from the Yukon Territory,
    noted that Alaska and the Yukon Territory frequently
    collaborate in the tourism sector, and they submitted a joint
    comment on the WHTI voicing their common concerns.  Bagnell
    said he also had questions about the several opposing rulings
    regarding the softwood lumber dispute.  The Ambassador
    offered to send the Border Caucus members a brief outline of
    the facts behind the various softwood lumber decisions.
    Bagnell raised the differing views of the U.S. and Canada
    regarding exploring for petroleum in the Arctic National
    Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) and demarcating the border along the
    Northwest Passage.  The Ambassador acknowledged that, yes, we
    do have different views on both of those.

    ¶8.  (SBU) Gurmant Grewal, Conservative from British Columbia,
    complained of what he described as "racial profiling" at
    border crossings and the presence of militiamen.  The
    Ambassador explained that the U.S. does not practice racial
    profiling.  He noted that the militiamen on the border have
    no official capacity.  Grewal added that he himself was
    recently held up three times on return flights to Vancouver
    from Mexico.  On hearing details of Grewal's travel, Consular
    chief Powell explained that things like cash purchases of
    one-way tickets and not having luggage on an international
    flight may make one appear suspicious.  Grewal said that if
    his name is on a "No-Fly" list, he wishes to be removed from
    it.  Powell offered to look into the particulars of Grewal's
    personal complaint.

    ¶9.  (U) The NDP's Brian Masse from Windsor asked if the USG
    and Government of Canada were preparing to put up public
    funds to match the proposal expected October 28 from Manny
    Maroun (owner of the Ambassador Bridge between Detroit and
    Windsor) to privatize the Windsor-Detroit tunnel.  The
    Ambassador responded that we view the recommendations of the
    binational commission as those that can most adequately
    address the Windsor-Detroit crossing for the long-term.  He
    offered to keep in contact with Masse regarding the Maroun
    proposal and the issue of funding.

    ¶10.  (U) Jeff Watson, Conservative from Ontario, sent a
    staffer to ask if the United States and Canada were finally
    going to be able to join together and make common cause
    against European subsidies in the World Trade Organization.
    The Ambassador offered to look into that question and get
    back to Watson.

    ¶11.  (U) Greg Thompson, Conservative from New Brunswick,
    thanked the Ambassador for joining MPs to barbecue hamburgers
    at Parliament Hill.  (Note:  Parliament held a fund-raiser
    luncheon for Katrina victims on September 28 at which MPs and
    the Ambassador joined Prime Minister Martin in cooking meals
    that raised $125,000.  End note.)  Thompson raised his
    concern that the United States was beginning to view the
    Canadian border with the same optic as the Mexican border.
    He noted that the U.S. and Canada have unique agreements in
    security and law enforcement.  Our two countries must move
    ahead with new bilateral activities without waiting for
    Mexico to join them.  The Ambassador assured Thompson that we
    appreciate the unique character of the Canada-U.S. border.
    Comment:  Thompson did not elaborate further, but perhaps he
    was alluding to the trilateral linkage proposed in the
    Security and Prosperity Partnership.  Embassy will follow up
    with Thompson.  End comment.

    ¶12.  (SBU) Mark Warawa, Conservative from British Columbia,
    told the Ambassador that a recently discovered underground
    tunnel used by drug smugglers is located in his riding.  He
    said he was pleased the drug smugglers using the tunnel were
    arrested on the U.S. side, adding that they would have gotten
    off too easily had they been arrested on the Canadian side.
    Warawa reported that the RCMP is being overwhelmed by the
    number of growing operations in B.C., as many as 800 of them,
    and cannot adequately respond to them.  He opined that C-17,
    the proposed legislation to decriminalize marijuana while at
    the same time increasing the maximum fine for grow ops, has
    been "shelved" and will remain so as long as Canada is "in
    election mode."

    ¶13.  (U) Denis Paradis, Liberal from Quebec, asked if the
    Ambassador would intervene in the planned expansion of a
    garbage landfill on the U.S. side of Lake Memphremagog, a
    popular resort that straddles the Quebec-Vermont border.
    Paradis maintains that the landfill as planned will pollute
    the lake.  The Ambassador offered to look into it.  The last
    Border Caucus member to speak was Lynne Yelich, Conservative
    from Saskatchewan, whose main purpose in attending the
    meeting was to invite the Ambassador to visit her province.
    As it turns out, the Ambassador will be in Saskatchewan on
    November 30 on a trip that will complete his initial tours of
    Canada's provinces.

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    WILKINS

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