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### Viewing cable 08WELLINGTON36, GNZ SHARES SIMILAR VIEWS ON ARF; PROSPECTS FOR

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08WELLINGTON36 | 2008-02-07 19:02 | 2011-04-28 00:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Wellington

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    VZCZCXRO2168
    PP RUEHDT RUEHPB
    DE RUEHWL #0036 0381902
    ZNY CCCCC ZZH
    P 071902Z FEB 08
    FM AMEMBASSY WELLINGTON
    TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 5050
    INFO RUCNARF/ASEAN REGIONAL FORUM COLLECTIVE PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/OSD WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/SECDEF WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    RHHMUNA/CDR USPACOM HONOLULU HI PRIORITY

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L WELLINGTON 000036

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    STATE FOR EAP/ANP; EAP/RSP AND S/CT

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/08/2018
    TAGS: PREL MARR ASEAN NZ
    SUBJECT: GNZ SHARES SIMILAR VIEWS ON ARF; PROSPECTS FOR
    REAL CHANGE REMAIN UNCERTAIN

    REF: STATE 8005

    Classified By: Pol/Econ Counselor Margaret B. McKean; Reason 1.4 (b) an
    d (d)

     ¶1.  (C)  On February 7, Pol/Econ Counselor delivered reftel
    demarche material to Tim McIvor, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    and Trade (MFAT) head of the Asia Regional Unit that deals
    with ARF and ASEAN affairs.  McIvor indicated that the GNZ
    had already supplied comments to the USG's ARF proposal to
    EAP/RSP.  McIvor underscored that New Zealand shares USG
    views on needed changes to the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF).
    ARF, he said, needs to look afresh at its role and
    priorities.  He agreed that the organization needs to
    transition from a forum ("talk shop") to an activities-based
    organization that addresses issues of regional concern in
    cooperative fashion.  McIvor offered that Singapore should
    look at ARF more fundamentally than perhaps the GOS would
    like to.  Nevertheless, he sees Indonesia, Singapore, and
    Thailand as the likeliest countries within ASEAN to promote
    real reform.

    ¶2.  (C)  McIvor agreed that the Friends of the ARF Chair has
    been a helpful mechanism; he also agreed with the USG
    proposal to split the ARF chair from the ASEAN chair, but
    argued strongly that the USG should clarify that the ARF
    chair would remain with another ASEAN nation -- otherwise,
    ASEAN will reject the concept to protect the primacy of ASEAN
    within ARF.  McIvor added that the notion that ASEAN has
    primacy within ARF is "a fiction," noting that ASEAN's
    partners continue to drive the organization.  ARF should have
    a vision statement, which will hopefully lead Singapore to
    review more closely how ARF can add value in a region that
    has a larger number of organizations with overlapping
    agendas.  He agreed that ARF should move past dialogue
    towards more practical activities, and urged that the
    activities be selected carefully to ensure maximum
    participation.  McIvor said that the ever-expanding number of
    ARF meetings has made it difficult for some countries to send
    representatives; even New Zealand is finding it challenging,
    he added.

    ¶3.  (C)  On the USG-proposed Counter Terrorism and
    Transnational Crime (CTTC) workplan, McIvor said he would
    have to confer with MFAT colleagues who deal with
    counterterrorism (CT) issues -- most of whom are out of the
    country at the moment.  In principle, CT issues should be
    exactly what the ARF should be focused on, noted McIvor, who
    said he would study the proposed workplan.

    ¶4.  (C)  Finally, concerning the ASEAN Defense Ministers
    Meeting Plus, McIvor said that New Zealand is waiting for a
    revised paper from Singapore and is consulting closely with
    the GOS on the issue.  MFAT has instructed its diplomatic
    missions in ASEAN countries to stay in touch with their
    Singaporean counterparts on reactions by host country
    governments.  Singapore has recommended that the Plus
    mechanism include EAS members plus the United States, offered
    McIvor.
    MCCORMICK

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