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### Viewing cable 05OTTAWA2106, FY 2005 IVLP EVALUATION: LUCI GRECHEN; FEBRUARY 7-25,

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05OTTAWA2106 | 2005-07-12 19:11 | 2011-04-28 00:00 | UNCLASSIFIED | Embassy Ottawa

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    This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

    121911Z Jul 05

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    UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 03 OTTAWA 002106

    SIPDIS

    STATE FOR ECA/PE/V/R/W - EWILKES-SCOTT

    STATE FOR WHA/PDA - JANE CARPENTER-ROCK

    STATE FOR WHA/CAN - TERRY BREESE

    STATE FOR EB/ESC/IEC/EPC - PEDRO ERVITI

    STATE FOR WHA/AND - LISA SCHREIBER-HUGHES

    USDA FOR HELEN STANARD

    USDOC FOR ANDREW RUDMAN

    STATE PASS EPA FOR PETE CHRISTICH

    APP WINNIPEG MESSAGE 2005/05

    E.O. 12958: N/A
    TAGS: OEXC PREL CA IV
    SUBJECT: FY 2005 IVLP EVALUATION: LUCI GRECHEN; FEBRUARY 7-25,
    2005; STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS

    Refs: (A) STATE 6971

          (B) STATE 188247
          (C) OTTAWA 2290

    ¶1.  Summary: Program evaluation for International Visitor
    Leadership Program grantee Luci Grechen.  End summary.

    ¶2.  MPP Theme Addressed:  Open Markets, Mutual Understanding.
    Strategic Goal: Economic Prosperity.

    ¶3.  Post Objectives:
    -- Learning about the U.S. federal system of government -
    overview of federalism; the relationship of states to the federal
    government; state-to-state relations; Canada-U.S. relations

    -- Developing an understanding of the roles and responsibilities
    of the federal and state governments in areas of shared
    jurisdiction including healthcare, energy, and agriculture.

    -- Understanding the federal-state relationship on environmental
    issues - specifically how environmental policy is developed and
    enforced in the context of Manitoba's ongoing disputes with North
    Dakota over water issues (Devils Lake and the Northwest Area
    Water Supply initiative). Specific topics might include water
    quality, the interbasin transfer of invasive species and foreign
    biota.

    ¶4.  Results: Luci Grechen gave generally a positive review to her
    IVP, especially for the broadened perspective it gave her on the
    United States, its land and its people.  She found it beneficial
    to learn about U.S. federalism in theory in Washington through
    academic briefings and with federal agencies, and then to see how
    it worked in practice in cities and states.  Seeing how policy is
    developed in the U.S. federalist system - which differs
    significantly from Canadian parliamentary federalism - was a real
    eye-opener to Grechen, who saw the importance of building
    consensus and the role of process in building consensus on
    several issues that have an effect on Manitoba.

    In planning Grechen's program, we anticipated that her study of
    policy-making might focus more on environmental issues,
    specifically the contentious Devils Lake outlet proposal.
    Grechen indicated on her return that she learned more about
    policy-making in the context of the debate over the re-opening of
    the border to imports of live cattle from Canada since the
    discovery of BSE.  This is also an important issue to Manitoba -
    and one that Grechen knows well - and it provided an equivalent
    opportunity to see how policy is developed in the United States.
    She learned about the wide assortment of players in that debate
    in the United States including the administration, congress,
    industry groups for and against the proposal, and the role of the
    Courts in arbitrating specific legal questions.  She met in
    person with several of the key agencies and lobbyists.  Referring
    to the administration's support for opening the border to live
    cattle, a question we hear often from Canadians is: "If the
    President wants to open the border to our cattle, why doesn't he
    just open it?"  As Grechen now knows, there is much more to the
    process and she understands how it differs from the policy-making
    process in Canada.  She can also extrapolate the knowledge she
    gained about the policy-making process on the BSE issue to other
    issues that affect Manitoba, such as the Devils Lake diversion
    case and softwood lumber.

    The opportunity for Grechen to meet with Americans from a wide
    variety of geographically, economically and professional
    backgrounds gave her a better understanding for the diverse
    interests within the United States that must be accommodated in
    the policy-making process, and how that is accomplished.  As
    Grechen noted in the follow-up interview, "the decision-making
    process in the U.S. isn't a straight line.  Decisions don't
    always go the way you think they will, as so many people have
    input, and there is so much competition between all these
    competing bodies."  She noted that coalitions - sometimes very
    unlikely and temporary alliances - will form around issues, and
    personal relations also play an important role in the legislative
    process.  This contrasts with Canadian federalism, which tends to
    be more ideological, and party discipline is much tighter,
    resulting in most legislative proceedings being a foregone
    conclusion.

    Grechen found the Washington meetings useful in getting a
    national perspective on federalism and many of issues she would
    be exploring in more depth later in her program.  She
    specifically mentioned the "Intro to the U.S." seminar at
    Georgetown University as providing her a useful overview on the
    United States.  There were a few minor "cock-ups" on meetings,
    such as an office that had moved, and several cases of offices
    scrambling when she arrived.  She expects that many of the
    meetings were scheduled quite a while in advance, and suggested
    that perhaps this could be remedied by program organizers re-
    confirming meetings shortly before her arrival.  Fortunately, her
    schedule was never that busy, so she was always able to
    accommodate.  She noted that she did find the USDA meeting too
    long - it ran for a full morning - although she found the handout
    materials very useful.  The meeting with EPA's Pete Christich was
    quite useful to her in understanding the water issues, although
    she found that his message was quite tightly scripted and she got
    the impression he was not being as candid as he would like.

    Grechen described her program in Washington and in the other
    cities as "leisurely", often with a lot of time between meetings.
    On a typical day she would have meetings at 10:00 and 3:00,
    leaving her downtown most of the day in full business attire.
    She was a little overdressed to go sightseeing - which she did
    anyways - but did not have enough time to go back to the hotel
    and change.  Her preference would be either for a busier schedule
    that would keep her fully occupied, or pushing her business
    appointments into a block during the morning or afternoon to
    leave her larger blocks of time to explore her own interests.

    Grechen has an excellent series of meetings in Kansas City, and
    indicated that some of the contacts she made there have already
    proven very useful.  She has been in touch with a contact in the
    KC mayor's office already, and officials from the Manitoba
    Government will be visiting Kansas City this year to pursue
    economic and trade relations.  The home hospitality in Kansas
    City went well.  Her host made her feel very welcome, and gave
    her an excellent overview of the city, although Grechen noted she
    was a bit critical of some of her fellow Kansas City residents.
    Grechen also found the meeting with the academic in Kansas City
    very useful.  He gave an excellent explanation of local
    government structure, and left her with a strong sense of the
    overlapping nature of the many elected councils, boards and other
    officials, and the dispersive nature of that structure on policy-
    making.  Grechen found KC somewhat difficult to get around
    because of the distance between meetings.

    Grechen offered few thoughts on her Austin program, despite being
    there for nearly a week.  She noted her meeting with Buddy Garcia
    in the TX Governor's office as one of the least useful of her
    visit.  It lasted only 15 minutes, and he seemed distracted
    throughout.

    Prior to leaving for her program, Grechen had relatively low
    expectations for Springfield, the last city she visited.  It was
    a compromise choice after several other cities she had requested
    turned out not to be available.  Her expectations were even lower
    as she arrived, tired after two weeks of constant traveling and
    without much idea of what to expect in Springfield.  Grechen was
    pleasantly surprised when Springfield turned out to be the
    highlight of her visit.  Her exact words were "Springfield was
    fabulous!"  The meetings were interesting and useful, including a
    valuable session with the pharmacists association that gave her a
    good sense of their perspective on the Internet Pharmacy issue -
    an important issue in Manitoba, and she found state agriculture
    officials very keen to establish a relationship with Manitoba.
    The agriculture officials also extended  thru Grechen an
    invitation for Manitoba officials to attend an agriculture
    economics summit they are holding, and she is hopeful that
    representatives from Manitoba will attend.  Grechen also
    developed a good rapport with "Katie" - her host in Springfield -
    who Grechen described as giving her "personalized treatment" and
    really made her feel at home.  Katie was also instrumental in
    conveying to Grechen the depth of love Americans have for their
    country.  Even though they may disagree or protest, American
    patriotism and national symbols unite citizens and transcend
    individual issues.

    Grechen's IVLP experience was overwhelmingly positive and she
    thanked the Consulate, Embassy and ECA/PE/V/R/W for making this
    once-in-a-lifetime experience possible.  The experience gave her
    a new and enhanced perspective on the United States and the
    policy process that will benefit her personally and
    professionally for years to come.  This is particularly useful to
    Post, since Grechen is the point person on Manitoba's significant
    political and economic relationship with the United States.  We
    are confident in calling on Grechen in future that her IVLP has
    sensitized her to U.S. concerns and the slow nature of the U.S.
    policy-making process.

    Although her program was excellent, Grechen said that she would
    have found it easier to settle in to each city if there had been
    a "mentor" to help her familiarize herself.  The mentor could be
    a volunteer who meets the participant at the airport, takes them
    on a windshield tour of the city, and generally acquaints them
    with the city's history and atmosphere.  On accommodations, she
    was quite satisfied with the quality of all of the hotels she
    stayed in, but apparently one of the hotels did not offer room
    service.  Grechen noted that there were a couple of nights where
    she was tired at the end of a long day and she could have made
    use of the room service option.  She was also surprised at being
    asked to make an impromptu presentation to an African-American
    lobby group.  Grechen is uncomfortable at public speaking even
    when prepared, and specifically asked not to make any
    presentations during her program.  She went into the meeting
    expecting them to make a presentation to her, but instead she
    faced a group of 40 people who were expecting her to make a
    presentation to them.  Her presentation on Manitoba was quite
    brief, and the meeting changed into more of an open dialogue,
    which is a more comfortable format for Grechen.

    ¶5.  APP WINNIPEG SENDS.

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