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### Viewing cable 09KUWAIT110, THE INTERIOR MINISTER'S REMEDY FOR TERRORISTS:

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09KUWAIT110 | 2009-02-05 16:36 | 2010-12-05 12:00 | SECRET//NOFORN | Embassy Kuwait

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    VZCZCXRO3981
    PP RUEHDE RUEHDIR
    DE RUEHKU #0110/01 0361636
    ZNY SSSSS ZZH
    P 051636Z FEB 09
    FM AMEMBASSY KUWAIT
    TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 2777
    INFO RUEHZM/GULF COOPERATION COUNCIL COLLECTIVE PRIORITY
    RHEHNSC/NSC WASHDC PRIORITY
    RHMFISS/HQ USCENTCOM MACDILL AFB FL PRIORITY
    RHBVAKS/COMUSNAVCENT  PRIORITY

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    ID: 190648
    ORIGIN: 09KUWAIT110
    DATE: 2009-02-05 16:36:00
    SOURCE: Embassy Kuwait
    CLASSIFICATION: SECRET//NOFORN
    MISC: 09KUWAIT95
    DESTINATION: VZCZCXRO3981RUEHDE RUEHDIRRUEHKU #0110/01 0361636SSSSS ZZH051636Z FEB 09AMEMBASSY KUWAITRUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 2777RUEHZM/GULF COOPERATION COUNCIL COLLECTIVE PRIORITY/NSC WASHDC PRIORITY/HQ USCENTCOM MACDILL AFB FL PRIORITY/COMUSNAVCENT  PRIORITY

    S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 KUWAIT 000110

    NOFORN
    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/05/2029
    TAGS: PREL PTER PINR KU IR
    SUBJECT: THE INTERIOR MINISTER'S REMEDY FOR TERRORISTS:
    "LET THEM DIE."

    REF: KUWAIT 0095

    Classified By: Ambassador for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)

    ¶1. (S/NF) SUMMARY:  During a February 3 meeting in their
    ongoing dialog on US-Kuwait CT cooperation, Kuwaiti Minister
    of Interior Shaykh Jaber al-Khalid Al Sabah discussed with
    Ambassador US and Kuwaiti efforts to locate and apprehend
    terror financiers (including Mohammed Sultan Ibrahim Sultan
    Al-Ali, aka Jawad/Abu Umar), applauded improved liaison
    information exchange, expressed skepticism Kuwait would ever
    develop a rehabilitation center for former GTMO detainees and
    other extremists supporting jihad, and suggested the US
    should release current GTMO detainees back into Afghanistan,
    where they could be killed in combat.  He sardonically
    questioned why US NAVCENT forces had gone to the trouble of
    rescuing foundering Iranian hashish smugglers two weeks
    earlier, saying "God meant to punish them with death and you
    saved them.  Why?"  Characterizing the previous Saturday's
    provincial elections as a "huge success," Shaykh Jaber
    expressed his belief that President Obama and the US had the
    tools necessary to successfully confront all challenges.  END
    SUMMARY.

    ¶2. (S/NF) Ambassador called on Shaykh Jaber February 3 to
    review progress on our CT liaison relationship and to seek
    the Interior Minister's support for operational concepts
    aimed at intercepting individuals involved in the
    exploitation of traditional smuggling routes in the northern
    Gulf to move would-be jihadists and their
    financier/facilitators between Kuwait and Iran, Pakistan and
    Afghanistan.  Shaykh Jaber began the meeting by applauding
    the "huge success" of the provincial elections in Iraq and
    expressing his confidence in the ability of President Obama
    and the "super power" US to address current challenges.

    ¶3. (S/NF) Ambassador noted she'd met recently with VADM
    McCraven, now JSOC commander for this region, and that they'd
    discussed alternative approaches to staunching the flows of
    terror financing, given the constraints of Kuwait's current
    legal and political systems.  Offering his support for these
    approaches ) and underscoring that he was as concerned about
    terrorist influences from Saudi Arabia as from Iran, given
    the loose border controls -- the Minister expressed his
    understanding of what he characterized (fairly) as improved
    information exchange between our services, while
    acknowledging the ongoing deficiencies in Kuwait's legal
    system that stymie effective prosecution and restraint of
    these individuals once captured.

    ¶4. (S/NF) Ambassador noted recent press reports that
    self-confessed jihadi recruiter and financier Mohammed
    al-Bathali had been released on a 500 dinar bond after being
    sentenced to three of a possible five years imprisonment for
    "inciting jihad against a friendly state."  (Reftel)  At the
    same time, Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, Shaykh Salem Al
    Sabah, had approached S/WCI Ambassador Clint Williamson to
    inquire after the status of Kuwait's four remaining GTMO
    detainees.  Ambassador clarified that President Obama's
    announcement of our determination to close the detention
    center at Guantanamo did not mean we no longer had security
    concerns which would be factored into any release scenarios;
    the Kuwaiti detainees were nasty, unrepentant individuals and
    Kuwait's record had been tarnished by the example of former
    GTMO detainee al-Ajmi, who'd allegedly blown himself up in
    Mosul following his release to the Kuwaiti authorities.
    Ambassador asked the Interior Minister the status of the
    rehabilitation center Prime Minister Shaykh Nasser Mohammed
    Al Sabah had mentioned in his September 18th conversation
    with then-Secretary Rice in Washington.  Ambassador noted
    that we were aware of the stories of Saudis who'd gone
    through SAG rehabilitation centers only to re-emerge with Al
    Qaeda in Yemen; nonetheless, the GOK had to take steps to
    show its seriousness in changing and controlling the
    behaviors of extremists within its society.

    ¶5. (S/NF) Shaykh Jaber replied with an anecdote:  Following
    the 1990 invasion of Kuwait and Desert Storm, General
    Schwarzkopf had raised the issue of "rehabilitating" Kuwaitis
    who'd been exposed to the brutality of war so that they could
    re-integrate into society.  Shaykh (Ret,d General) Jaber had
    replied:  "But you are thinking of the Vietnam model, where
    young war veterans came home to empty apartments or anonymous
    urban environments.  That is not who we are.  We are a small,
    close-knit society and everyone knows each other.  No one
    will feel alienated: those who can heal will heal naturally
    with family; those who cannot heal in that environment will
    never heal."  Relating this to the current topic, Shaykh

    KUWAIT 00000110  002 OF 002

    Jaber told the Ambassador:  "You know better than I that we
    cannot deal with these people (i.e. the GTMO detainees).  I
    can't detain them.  If I take their passports, they will sue
    to get them back (Note:  as happened with Al-Ajmi.  End
    note.)  I can talk to you into next week about building a
    rehabilitation center, but it won't happen.  We are not Saudi
    Arabia; we cannot isolate these people in desert camps or
    somewhere on an island.  We cannot compel them to stay.  If
    they are rotten, they are rotten and the best thing to do is
    get rid of them.  You picked them up in Afghanistan; you
    should drop them off in Afghanistan, in the middle of the war
    zone."

    ¶6. (S/NF) Ambassador then raised with the Minister developing
    an SOP for dealing with incidents such as the recent rescue
    by US NAVCENT forces in the northern Gulf of seven Iranian
    smugglers whose boat was foundering while engaged in
    smuggling hashish.  In the event, the Omanis had agreed to
    repatriate the Iranians but we nonetheless needed to think
    about dealing with similar episodes in future in expeditious
    fashion.  The initial response of the Kuwaiti Coast Guard had
    been to refer the matter to the Minister of Interior, via the
    Ministry of Foreign Affairs.  The Ambassador noted our
    supposition that the Kuwaiti Coast Guard must have had
    similar experiences with Iranian smugglers who needed
    repatriation to Iran.  Smiling broadly, the Interior Minister
    deflected the question, saying "God wished to punish them for
    smuggling drugs by drowning them, and then you saved them.
    So they're your problem!  You should have let them drown."
    In any case, he added, the Kuwaitis generally sent the
    Iranians back to Iran in their own boats so there had not
    been a question of physically handing them over.

    ¶7. (S/NF) In closing, Ambassador noted that the Minister had
    created the position of Special Advisor to Shaykh Jaber for
    Kuwait Security Services (our GRPO liaison counterpart) and
    assigned Shaykh Salman Sabah al-Salem al-Humoud Al Sabah to
    that role.  Ambassador asked whether the Minister believed
    there was any appropriate liaison relationship between the
    Embassy and Shaykh Salman, to which the Minister replied in
    the negative.  Finally, the Ambassador invited the Minister
    to join her in attending the US Ambassador's reception
    February 24 at the IDEX event in Abu Dhabi, as part of our
    efforts to boost the relationship.

    ¶8. (C) COMMENT:  The Minister was as frank and pessimistic as
    ever when it came to the subject of apprehending and
    detaining terror financiers and facilitators under Kuwait's
    current legal and political framework.  Ongoing tensions
    between parliament and the PM and his cabinet make any
    changes highly unlikely any time soon.  The remaining GTMO
    detainees remain a particularly thorny issue for the
    leadership here, who privately recognize the downsides of
    taking custody and readily acknowledge their inability to
    manage them but who remain under strong domestic political
    pressure to "bring their boys home."  Telling was the fact
    that press accounts of the Ambassador's February 3 meeting
    with the Minister (which was one-on-one with a notetaker) and
    her meeting two days earlier with the MFA U/S focused solely
    on the GTMO issue, although it was discussed only marginally.
    END COMMENT.

    ********************************************* *********
    For more reporting from Embassy Kuwait, visit:
    visit Kuwait's Classified Website at:

    http://www.intelink.sgov.gov/wiki/Portal:Kuwa it
    ********************************************* *********
    JONES

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