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### Viewing cable 09STATE35745, A/S SHANNON'S MEETINGS WITH ECUADORIAN OFFICIALS

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09STATE35745 | 2009-04-10 19:07 | 2011-04-07 07:07 | SECRET | Secretary of State
Appears in these articles: http://www.eluniverso.com/2011/04/07/1/1355/cable-201915.html

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    O R 101905Z APR 09
    FM SECSTATE WASHDC
    TO AMEMBASSY QUITO IMMEDIATE
    INFO AMEMBASSY ASUNCION
    AMEMBASSY BOGOTA
    AMEMBASSY BRASILIA
    AMEMBASSY BUENOS AIRES
    AMEMBASSY CARACAS
    AMEMBASSY LA PAZ
    AMEMBASSY LIMA
    AMEMBASSY MONTEVIDEO
    AMEMBASSY SANTIAGO
    AMCONSUL GUAYAQUIL
    NSC WASHINGTON DC 0000

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    S E C R E T STATE 035745

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/10/2019
    TAGS: PREL PINR SNAR EC
    SUBJECT: A/S SHANNON'S MEETINGS WITH ECUADORIAN OFFICIALS
    TO DISCUSS ECUADORIAN ACCUSATIONS OF U.S. INTERFERENCE

    REF: A. QUITO 217
         ¶B. QUITO 160
         C...

    id: 201915
    date: 4/10/2009 19:05
    refid: 09STATE35745
    origin: Secretary of State
    classification: SECRET
    destination: 09QUITO145|09QUITO153|09QUITO160|09QUITO217
    header:
    O R 101905Z APR 09
    FM SECSTATE WASHDC
    TO AMEMBASSY QUITO IMMEDIATE
    INFO AMEMBASSY ASUNCION
    AMEMBASSY BOGOTA
    AMEMBASSY BRASILIA
    AMEMBASSY BUENOS AIRES
    AMEMBASSY CARACAS
    AMEMBASSY LA PAZ
    AMEMBASSY LIMA
    AMEMBASSY MONTEVIDEO
    AMEMBASSY SANTIAGO
    AMCONSUL GUAYAQUIL
    NSC WASHINGTON DC 0000

    ----------------- header ends ----------------

    S E C R E T STATE 035745

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/10/2019
    TAGS: PREL PINR SNAR EC
    SUBJECT: A/S SHANNON'S MEETINGS WITH ECUADORIAN OFFICIALS
    TO DISCUSS ECUADORIAN ACCUSATIONS OF U.S. INTERFERENCE

    REF: A. QUITO 217
         ¶B. QUITO 160
         ¶C. QUITO 153
         ¶D. QUITO 145

    Classified By: A/S SHANNON, REASONS 1.4 (B) and (D).

    ¶1. Summary.  (S/NF) On April 1, A/S Shannon met Ecuadorian
    Justice Minister Jalkh, Vice Foreign Minister Pozo, and other
    GOE officials to discuss GOE accusations that an embassy
    official had taken actions to destabilize the government of
    Ecuador.  Making clear the GOE's desire to work with the USG
    on security matters, Jalkh alleged inappropriate contacts
    between the Embassy officers and Ecuadorian "bad actors"
    known to have a criminal history.  A/S Shannon responded that
    we would investigate the allegations, reaffirmed the U.S.
    desire to work constructively with Ecuador, and stressed the
    importance of working with Ambassador Hodges on this matter
    going forward.  At the conclusion of the meeting, Pozo handed
    A/S Shannon a printed presentation that summarized the GOE's
    allegations.

    ¶2. (S/NF) Summary (Continued).  On April 3, A/S Shannon and
    DAS McMullen had a follow up meeting with Minister Jalkh and
    Ambassador Gallegos.  A/S Shannon informed Minister Jalkh
    that Embassy Quito had conducted a preliminary investigation
    of the allegations made by the GOE.  He said that the USG had
    not found inappropriate behavior on the part of the embassy
    offer.  He added that the USG was concerned that a third
    party might have been involved in this approach to the
    embassy, and he requested a cooperative investigation between
    the embassy and the GOE to get to the bottom of the matter.
    He noted that the United States has no desire to destabilize
    Ecuador and seeks cooperation.  However, he cautioned that
    any further expulsions of embassy staff would be very
    problematic.  Both Jalkh and A/S Shannon closed by stressing
    the need to get beyond current difficulties and reestablish
    broad cooperation.  End Summary.

    April 1 Meeting
    ---------------

    ¶3. (S/NF) A/S Shannon met with Ecuador's Minister of Justice,
    Gustavo Jalkh; MFA Vice Minister, Lautaro Pozo; Permanent
    Representative to the UN, Maria Espinosa; Permanent
    Representative to the OAS, Efren Cocios; Chief of Staff of
    for VM Pozo, Efrain Baus; and Ambassador to the United
    States, Luis Gallegos, on April 1 to discuss GOE allegations
    of an effort by an Embassy Quito officer to destabilize the
    government of Ecuador.  WHA/DAS, WHA/AND Officer Director,
    INL/LP Office Director, and the Ecuador Desk Officer also
    participated.  Jalkh opened by noting that he had only been
    in his current position for six weeks.  He reviewed the tough
    work involved in reforming Ecuador's national police, and
    noted that security on the northern border of Ecuador is a
    key priority.  He stressed that social development in Ecuador
    is crucial to the task of protecting both human rights and
    security.

    ¶4. (S/NF) Jalkh next stated that the GOE had found some
    issues that needed to be addressed to strengthen the
    bilateral relationship with the United States: "Cooperation
    is our goal; we wish to work together on all fronts through
    time, government to government."  Referring to the recent
    expulsions of two U.S. officials (reftels), Jalkh asserted
    that the GOE could not have responded any other way.  He
    added that the GOE hoped that such difficulties would not
    happen again and that the GOE needs improved communication
    with the United States.

    ¶5. (S/NF) Jalkh moved on to the specific point of the
    meeting.  According to Jalkh, the GOE had evidence of an
    inappropriate meeting at Embassy Quito between an Embassy
    officer and "bad actors" in Ecuador.  Jalkh further asserted
    that the emboff offered benefits to these individuals in
    exchange for speaking ill of the GOE regarding narcotics
    matters.  Jalkh underlined that his goal was to address this
    matter so broader cooperation could take place.  He said, "We
    need to talk of this.  We want to work with you on this.  We
    believe in human rights and democratic controls.  This is a
    new type of government."  He added that the GOE had massive
    problems on its northern border and would like to cooperate
    with the United States on the refugee problem.  He also said
    that Ecuador does not get the recognition it deserves for its
    efforts on its northern border.  Summing up, Jalkh said, "We
    want to turn the page to our mutual concerns, but we have to
    get over this issue (of alleged Embassy meddling)."

    ¶6. (S/NF) VM Pozo next spoke.  According to Pozo, "We know
    this is not the policy of the United States.  This is a clear
    conspiracy to destabilize the government of Ecuador.  There
    were phone calls to set up the meeting.  This involves a well
    known criminal.  It is very upsetting."  Pozo said the GOE
    did not meet with the embassy regarding this matter,
    ostensibly in an effort to reduce tensions.  Commenting on
    the GOE's recent expulsions of Embassy officials from
    Ecuador, Pozo said: "We know this (the allegedly nefarious
    actions of the expelled emboffs) is not the policy of the
    Department of State.  These were personal actions by these
    individuals."  He said the GOE wants this matter
    investigated.  Pozo said that President Correa told Pozo and
    Jalkh to travel to the United States to raise these issues
    and claimed that the GOE had a real desire to cooperate with
    the United States.

    ¶7. (S/NF) A/S Shannon responded by thanking the GOE officials
    for the information they had provided.  He said the USG would
    investigate the situation, and told the officials that the
    United States had no interest in interfering in domestic
    matters, and was particularly sensitive to such concerns
    during an election campaign.  Shannon noted the efforts of
    the Correa administration to reconfigure the government and
    create the possibility of stability.  He added that a stable
    Ecuador with political and economic development is
    important--especially in an integrating and globalizing
    world: "We share an interest in improving dialogue,
    identifying common interests, and working together."  He
    noted that problems in bilateral relations between Ecuador
    and the United States would cause damage in the region.
    Pointing out that both countries are in a political
    transition, A/S Shannon said that the Obama administration is
    seeking to "reimagine relations in the hemisphere."

    ¶8. (S/NF) Jalkh agreed, emphasizing the need to work on
    common interests.  He said the GOE was serious about
    democratic controls; about the fight against illicit
    narcotics; and about creating a new ethos and legal framework
    for the police.  Jalkh highlighted GOE plans to increase its
    police presence on the northern border.  He said the GOE
    would measure its effectiveness along the northern border,
    "not by resources added, but if we take down gangs."  Pozo
    echoed Jalkh's comments.  He said that Ecuador had a
    significant state presence on the northern border, with
    11,000 troops (or one quarter of all Ecuadorian troops).  He
    added that the GOE is worried about demobilized Colombians
    creating additional problems and said, "We are victims."
    Ambassador Espinosa briefly mentioned that Ecuador had an
    exemplary record with respect to refugees.

    ¶9. (S/NF) A/S Shannon replied that the United States
    understands the problems Ecuador faces along its northern
    border, including the situation regarding refugees and the
    need for investment.  He pointed out that there are more
    Colombian refugees in the region than there are refugees in
    Darfur and that the lack of awareness in the hemisphere
    regarding the problem was the fault of the inter-American
    system, which has failed to capture and articulate the needs
    of refugees in the region.

    ¶10. (S/NF) Moving back to the bilateral relationship, A/S
    Shannon asserted the need to reconfigure our diplomatic
    relations, and emphasized the confidence and respect the
    State Department and the White House had for Ambassador
    Hodges.  He also emphasized that occasional points of
    disagreement between the United States and Ecuador did not
    represent the totality of relations between the two
    countries.  Ambassador Gallegos responded to this final point
    by stating that "we need to denarcoticize relations" and
    focus on other items, such as economic, social, security, and
    development matters.  He commented that the bilateral
    dialogue presented a chance to expand relations and that new
    items should be added to the dialogue's agenda.  Gallegos
    noted that relations between the United States and Ecuador
    needed to be transparent and respectful.

    ¶11. (S/NF) At different moments during the discussion, both
    Jalkh and Pozo raised the matter of vetted units in Ecuador
    (reftels).  Jalkh stressed that the GOE had three main
    requirements for future cooperation: first, any agreements
    must be in writing; second, all agreements must be
    coordinated through the GOE's MFA; and third, the vetting
    process must be collaborative.  He said that the GOE
    recognized that cooperating on intelligence matters was
    different, and that the GOE would try to accommodate the USG
    on this.  He also mentioned, "It is not good to have only one
    good unit" to combat narcotics trafficking in Ecuador.  Pozo
    stressed that vetted units must be under the control of the
    civilian authority.

    ¶12. (S/NF) As the meeting ended, Minister Pozo handed A/S
    Shannon two documents providing details of illegal armed
    groups along Ecuador's northern border and the GOE's military
    position along the northern border.  He also provided a
    printed PowerPoint presentation that outlined the GOE's
    specific assertions regarding the March 24 meeting of the
    Ecuadorian "bad actors" and embassy officers.

    April 3 Follow Up Meeting
    --------------------------

    ¶13. (S/NF) A/S Shannon and WHA DAS McMullen met with Minister
    Jalkh and Ambassador Gallegos on April 3 for a follow up
    discussion.  A/S Shannon told Jalkh that Embassy Quito had
    completed a preliminary inquiry into the March 24 meeting,
    when the allegedly "inappropriate meeting" took place.  He
    said that what the Embassy had discovered caused us concern,
    though our concerns were different from those expressed by
    the GOE at the April 1 meeting.  A/S Shannon said that the
    USG was concerned that a third party might have been involved
    in this approach to the Embassy.  He said the USG considered
    it important for the GOE to work cooperatively with our
    embassy to investigate what happened; he asked the GOE to
    share any additional information -- such as tapes of
    telephone conversations between Munoz and Rodas following the
    meeting at the embassy.  He emphasized to Jalkh that the
    embassy official had done nothing inappropriate by simply
    meeting with Ecuadorians who had claimed to have information
    on the FARC.

    ¶14. (S/NF) A/S Shannon reiterated that the USG had no reason
    to try to destabilize the Correa government.  He said that,
    given Ecuador's recent turbulent history, the USG was hoping
    that Correa would bring stability, democracy and development
    to Ecuador.  He added that the United States would like to
    get past this incident as soon as possible and reestablish
    close cooperation in areas of mutual interest.

    ¶15. (S/NF) Minister Jalkh responded that the GOE appreciated
    the quick response and committed the GOE to working with
    Embassy Quito to follow up.  He pledged to set up a meeting
    with Ambassador Hodges on April 6 to discuss next steps.
    Jalkh added that the GOE also wanted to turn the page and
    move on -- and collaborate closely on a broad set of issues,
    not just security.  He said the GOE appreciated the U.S.
    decision not to retaliate for Ecuador's expulsion of two
    Embassy officers.  While the GOE believed that those Embassy
    officers had acted inappropriately, he acknowledged that the
    USG had the sovereign right to retaliate, but had chosen not
    to do so.  In an implied reference to the Summit of the
    Americas, Jalkh mentioned that it would be helpful if both
    countries' leaders could meet and get to know one another.

    ¶16. (S/NF) A/S Shannon again stated that the United States
    wanted to find points of convergence with Ecuador and was not
    seeking confrontation.  He warned, however, that any further
    expulsions by the GOE would be very problematic.  He closed
    by stressing the importance of both countries moving beyond
    this rough patch in relations; he hoped that the April 6
    meeting with Ambassador Hodges and her team would be a first
    step in that direction.

    CLINTON

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