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### Viewing cable 08HAVANA66, COMSEC DISCUSSES FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY WITH CUBAN

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08HAVANA66 | 2008-01-18 16:04 | 2010-12-16 21:09 | CONFIDENTIAL | US Interests Section Havana

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L HAVANA 000066

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    C O R R E C T E D COPY SECSTATE DELETED AS INFO ADDEE

    DEPT FOR WHA/CCA; NSC FOR DAN FISK

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/16/2017
    TAGS: CU PGOV PHUM PINR PREL
    SUBJECT: COMSEC DISCUSSES FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY WITH CUBAN
    YOUTH

    Classified By: COM: Michael E. Parmly: For reasons 1.4 b/d

    ¶1. (C) SUMMARY: On 14 January Commerce Secretary
    Gutierrez spoke by video conference with 10 representatives
    of Cuban youth organizations. The participants discussed
    their desires for democracy and freedom. They also spoke
    about the prospects of achieving a democratic transition in
    Cuba and the image of the United States. Four current
    university students who were expected to participate in the
    conference never appeared at the US Interest Section in
    Havana for reasons that are yet to be discovered. One of the
    participants stated that after the event State Security
    officials questioned him about his participation in the
    conference. End Summary.

    ¶2. (C) SECCOM Gutierrez engaged in a dialogue with
    XXXXXXXXXXXX  Four  university students, whose
    participation was coordinated by  Raul Capote Hernandez,
    never appeared. USINT is still trying  to discover the reason
    why they did not show up.

    ¶3. (C) The participants spoke of their desire for freedom
    and democracy as well as the Cuban people's wish for
    improvements in their standard of living. XXXXXXXXXXXX
    described the  farcical atmosphere of a meeting in his neighbourhood
    where  government officials in the runup to the elections scheduled
    for January 20 instructed people that they could mark up the
    ballot in any way they choose and it would be counted unless
    they wrote something like "Down with Fidel" on it. The
    participants would like to have real options in a range of
    things from the candidates in elections to the food they can
    purchase.

    ¶4. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXX ,however, made it clear that
    dissidents can't speak for the entire Cuban people. In a
    subsequent discussion with POL officer, she elaborated that
    it would be a mistake to underestimate the effectiveness of
    GOC propaganda and the support the government has especially
    in poor communities and with some groups of University
    students. During the conference, XXXXXXXXXXXX
    described how it is clear that senior state security
    officials are well aware of how they are manipulating
    information, but many of the young security agents actually
    believe that dissidents are potential terrorists. XXXXXXXXXXXX
     told  POL officer that many people, especially outside Havana,
    are  convinced that dissidents are being paid to plot terrorist
    acts and sabotage. Rodriguez del Toro, Sanchez and Juan
    Carlos Hernandez are from Santiago de Cuba. They were all
    involved in a widely publicized incident in December 2007
    where police beat protesters on the grounds of a church in
    Santiago.

    ¶5. (C) In the conference, XXXXXXXXXXXX responded to
    questions about the attitude of the Cuban people toward the
    United States. She stated that years ago people tended to
    view both the government and the people of the United States
    as hostile towards Cuba. However, she now feels that even
    those who are suspicious of the Bush Administration, tend to
    have much more positive feelings toward the American people.
    She credits this to increased contact with actual Americans.
    Some participants mentioned the confusion over the role of
    the Committee for Assistance to a Free Cuba (CAFC). They
    alluded to the GOC's propaganda campaign and a notorious
    billboard that reads "Plan Bush: No More Morning Kiss" with a
    drawing of a mother not allowed to kiss her children as they
    head off for school. XXXXXXXXXXXX reiterated to Pol
    officer that even if GOC propaganda seems preposterous, it is
    effective with large segments of the population which have
    with little access to alternative information.

    ¶6. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXX also stated that often university
    students are afraid to speak to them although there is
    widespread support for the petition drive organized by
    E

    XXXXXXXXXXXX Frontiers to demand the opening  of
    private universities. She said that now almost all of the
    organization's contact with university students is through
    third parties. She spoke of how after widespread protests in
    September, university students in Santiago de Cuba felt
    emboldened because they achieved some improvements in their
    living conditions. However, protest activity has died down
    because students are afraid of expulsion. She indicated that
    there is still widespread discontent on campus on account of
    the dilapidated dormitories, the poor food, and the presence
    of many unqualified professors. A particular sore spot is
    the considerably better food and lodging provided to the
    foreign students. She said that Cuban students are not even
    allowed to visit the dormitories of foreign students.
    XXXXXXXXXXXX often points out that the regime is well
    aware that all of the significant revolutions in Cuban
    history started with student movements and that the GOC
    keeps  a close watch on what happens in the universities.

    ¶6. (C) XXXXXXXXXXXX stated that on 15 January two
    plainclothes  agents from state security came to his Havana
    home and said  that they knew he had participated in a video
    conference with  SECCOM and wanted the names of the
    other participants. XXXXXXXXXXXX  stated that he was
    told to appear in court on 21 January but  will not do so unless
    he receives an official written  citation. All of the other
    participants state that after the  video conference they have not
    been contacted to the police  or GOC officials. Rodriguez del
    Toro said that she expects  that all the members of her group
    will be detained as soon as  they arrive back in Santiago.

    PARMLY

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