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### Viewing cable 08QUITO297, SFRC STAFFDEL CARL MEACHAM VISIT TO QUITO

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08QUITO297 | 2008-03-28 10:10 | 2011-04-11 20:08 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Quito
Appears in these articles: http://www.eluniverso.com/2011/04/11/1/1355/cable-147622.html

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    VZCZCXYZ0018
    OO RUEHWEB

    DE RUEHQT #0297/01 0881022
    ZNY CCCCC ZZH
    O 281022Z MAR 08
    FM AMEMBASSY QUITO
    TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 8682
    INFO RUEHBO/AMEMBASSY BOGOTA 7464
    RUEHBR/AMEMBASSY BRASILIA 3876
    RUEHCV/AMEMBASSY CARACAS 2962
    RUEHLP/AMEMBASSY LA PAZ MAR LIMA 2507
    RUEHGL/AMCONSUL GUAYAQUIL 3441
    RHEFDIA/DIA WASHINGTON DC
    RHMFISS/CDR USSOUTHCOM MIAMI FL

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L QUITO 000297

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: TEN YEARS
    TAGS: PGOV PREL PTER MARR EC CO VE
    SUBJECT: SFRC STAFFDEL CARL MEACHAM VISIT TO QUITO

    Classified By: CDA Douglas Griffiths for Reasons 1.4 (b&d).

    1...

    id: 147622
    date: 3/28/2008 10:22
    refid: 08QUITO297
    origin: Embassy Quito
    classification: CONFIDENTIAL
    destination:
    header:
    VZCZCXYZ0018
    OO RUEHWEB

    DE RUEHQT #0297/01 0881022
    ZNY CCCCC ZZH
    O 281022Z MAR 08
    FM AMEMBASSY QUITO
    TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 8682
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    RUEHBR/AMEMBASSY BRASILIA 3876
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    ----------------- header ends ----------------

    C O N F I D E N T I A L QUITO 000297

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: TEN YEARS
    TAGS: PGOV PREL PTER MARR EC CO VE
    SUBJECT: SFRC STAFFDEL CARL MEACHAM VISIT TO QUITO

    Classified By: CDA Douglas Griffiths for Reasons 1.4 (b&d).

    ¶1.  (SBU) Summary.  Senior Professional Staff Member of the
    Senate Foreign Relations Committee Carl Meacham, during a
    visit to Quito on March 19, focused on the March 1 attack on
    a FARC camp in Ecuador and on Ecuador-Colombia relations.
    Meacham met separately with officials of the Ministries of
    Foreign Affairs, Government and Police, and Defense, and held
    a roundtable discussion with non-governmental analysts.  The
    Ecuadorian interlocutors stressed that the Colombian
    incursion was a violation of Ecuadorian sovereignty, that the
    FARC were not welcome but that the border is impossible to
    control, and that Colombian-Ecuadorian relations would
    improve only with Colombian commitment never to repeat such
    an attack.  GOE and non-governmental opinions differed on the
    GOE's commitment against the FARC.  (End Summary)

    Opposition to "Preventive War"

    ¶2.  (SBU) All of Meacham's interlocutors (in and out of
    government) agreed that the Colombian attack was premeditated
    and an unacceptable violation of Ecuadorian sovereignty.  MFA
    Under Secretary for Bilateral Affairs Diego Stacey stated
    that the GOE was against the concept of "preventive war", and
    that it was not an acceptable justification for Colombia's
    attack against the FARC within Ecuadorian territory.

    Zero Tolerance for "Irregular Forces", but Unable to Prevent
    Incursions

    ¶3.  (C) Ministry of Defense Principal Under Secretary
    Carvajal said that the GOE had a policy of zero tolerance of
    "irregular" or illegal forces in Ecuador, and gave a detailed
    description of the logistical challenges and degree of effort
    by Ecuador and Colombia.  He noted that, unlike Colombia,
    Ecuador had cities close to the Colombian border, including
    Quito (which is roughly the same distance from the border as
    Pasto, Colombia).  He said that Colombian military control
    along the border was sporadic, using mobile patrols from
    their few posts near the border, while the Ecuadorian
    military had 14 military posts in its border region, covering
    the region more consistently.  Minister of Coordination of
    Internal and External Security Fernando Bustamante stressed
    that the Ecuadorian military had destroyed 47 FARC camps
    since 2007, and that the GOE fought narcotics trafficking
    diligently.  He also reiterated an earlier statement by the
    Minister of Defense that the GOE calling the FARC terrorists
    would make Ecuador a target for FARC reprisals.

    ¶4.  (SBU) Under Secretary of Defense General Jorge Pena said
    that the problems along the border could not be solved by the
    military alone, pointing out that FARC members in civilian
    clothes who presented identification could legally cross the
    border.  He added that he considered FARC actions terrorism,
    and that he was glad to see Reyes dead.  Referring to Plan
    Ecuador, Minister Bustamante discussed the GOE's desire to
    increase its presence in the border area using social and
    economic programs and police presence, with the objective of
    reducing incentives for Ecuadorians to work with irregular
    forces.  Under Secretary Carvajal said that Ecuadorians
    living in the border region claimed they made $3,000 each
    working in coca fields in Colombia, but that they would not
    plant coca within Ecuador because they considered it
    prohibited here.  Under Secretary Stacey said that the GOE
    currently spent approximately $6 million annually on border
    protection.

    Ecuador-Colombia Relations Will Mend, but Only Under Certain
    Conditions

    ¶5.  (C) Under Secretary Stacey stated that relations with
    Colombia would be normalized, that the two countries had many
    common project and interests, and that the GOE wanted to work
    with Colombia.  He stressed, however, the GOE wanted
    "guarantees that this (a cross border military incursion)
    would not happen again."  Minister Bustamante claimed that
    the GOE never once received satisfactory results through the
    Binational Border Commission (COMBIFRON) with Colombia.  He
    said the GOE sought compensation for properties that were
    destroyed and impartial investigations when Ecuadorians were
    killed, but with no result.  He stressed that given the
    failure of bilateral mechanisms, observers representing a
    third party (such as the Rio Group and OAS) were needed to
    ensure the rule of law.
    U.S.-Ecuador Relations

    ¶6.  (C) Under Secretary Carvajal said that the GOE had lost
    political confidence in the U.S. because of accusations by
    the U.S. of GOE collaboration with the FARC.  In contrast,
    Under Secretary Pena said that the Ecuadorian military had
    good relations with the U.S., and that it infuriated him to
    hear Ecuador being compared to Venezuela.  Meacham asked each
    of his government interlocutors what U.S. support would be
    useful.  Minister Bustamante stressed that Ecuador would
    welcome economic, social and police assistance more than
    military assistance.  Asked about military needs, Carvajal
    expressed reluctance to depend on the U.S., but after
    Carvajal left the meeting, General Pena sounded receptive to
    U.S. assistance.

    Analysts' Views

    ¶7.  (C) Political analyst Cesar Montufar said that the USG's
    comments in support of Colombia were interpreted in Ecuador
    as directed against Ecuador, resulting in "polarization, with
    Venezuela and Ecuador on one side and the U.S. and Colombia
    on the other."  Montufar told Meacham that this political
    polarization had "allowed the more radical elements in the
    GOE to have a larger voice, which prompted the President's
    more radical posture."  Military analyst Berta Garcia added
    that anti-American sentiment was a source of political
    capital in Ecuador, and emphasized that Ecuadorians were very
    protective of sovereignty.  Franklin Barriga Lopez, Academic
    Director of the Ecuadorian Institute of International
    Relations Studies, commented that the presence of what he
    termed "Cuban doctrinists" within the Ministry of Education
    had spread leftist ideas, that he believed radical elements
    within Ecuadorian society had launched verbal attacks on the
    Manta Forward Operating Location (FOL) due to its
    counter-drug success, and that political advisors from
    Venezuela had what he considered close access to the Correa
    administration.

    Laptops and Investigations

    ¶8.  (C) Minister Bustamante stressed that Ecuador would have
    confidence in the documents allegedly contained in Reyes'
    computers "only if they were analyzed by an impartial source
    and handled in a transparent manner, rather than for
    political ends as Colombia was doing."  He further asserted
    that once the GOE had access to the computer documents, it
    would investigate.
    Griffiths

    =======================CABLE ENDS============================

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