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### Viewing cable 06BEIJING22825, BEIJING HUMAN RIGHTS WATCHERS DISCUSS EU HR

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06BEIJING22825 | 2006-10-27 11:11 | 2011-04-11 00:12 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Beijing
Appears in these articles: http://www.aftenposten.no/spesial/wikileaksdokumenter/article3984757.ece

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 BEIJING 022825

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    DEPT FOR DRL, EAP/CM

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/27/2031
    TAGS: PHUM KIRF PGOV CH
    SUBJECT: BEIJING HUMAN RIGHTS WATCHERS DISCUSS EU HR
    DIALOGUE; RAISE TIBET SHOOTING INCIDENT

    REF: BEIJING 21795

    Classified By: Classified by Political Internal Unit Chief Susan
    Thornton. Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

    ¶1. (C) Summary: The 22nd round of the China-EU human
    rights dialogue took place October 19 in Beijing, with
    special emphasis on freedom of expression, criminal
    justice reform and combating racism. Chinese
    officials denied that censorship exists, challenged
    the basis for some of UN Special Rapporteur on Torture
    Nowak´s conclusions, said China probably will not
    ratify the ICCPR without making an exception to allow
    Reeducation-Through-Labor, and ascribed the September
    30 shooting of Tibetans to "normal border guard
    behavior." The Canadian, Swedish, Australian, Swiss,
    German, Norwegian and New Zealand Embassies have
    raised, or plan to raise, the Tibet incident with
    Chinese officials. Politburo member Jia Qinglin told
    Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams that religion
    can play an important role in China´s efforts to build
    a "harmonious society." Jia also stated that the
    China-UK human rights dialogue will not be cut back to
    one round per year. End Summary.
    EU Human Rights Dialogue

    ------------------------

    ¶2. (C) The 22nd round of the China-EU human rights
    dialogue on October 19 was largely "business as
    usual," reported Finnish Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]. Ambassador Tom Gronberg of Finland, which
    currently holds the rotating EU Presidency, led the EU
    delegation in meetings covering a range of issues
    including freedom of expression, criminal justice
    reform and combating racism.

    ¶3. (C) On freedom of expression, Ambassador Gronberg
    noted that that the Chinese block some Internet search
    terms. MFA International Organizations Director
    General Wu Hailong launched into a lengthy background
    statement on the explosion in Chinese Internet use
    since 1990. Wu denied that there is "any censorship
    whatsoever" of news items in China. Censorship is
    "practically impossible," Wu said, given the large
    number of search queries. A moment later, Wu
    explained that the Chinese government has banned
    "Taiwan" as a search term because Internet users
    otherwise might use it to advance "illegal separatist
    activities." [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN], also
    acknowledged Chinese Internet censorship, but only in
    private conversation on the margins of the dialogue.

    ¶4. (C) The atmosphere was equally tense during
    discussions of criminal justice reform, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said.
    DG Wu read through a long list of reforms and planned
    reforms, all of which were previously known. When
    Ambassador Gronberg asked about reported abuses in
    specific cases involving Chen Guangcheng, Gao
    Zhisheng, and Hu Jia, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu and DDG Shen
    "acted as if mentioning these names was hitting under
    the belt." DG Wu said individuals were being punished
    for violating the law, not for expressing their
    opinions. He further said that there is unprecedented
    freedom of speech in China.

    ¶5. (C) Wu said police are receiving new training in
    compliance with UN Special Rapporteur on Torture
    Manfred Nowak´s recommendations. On the other hand,
    [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DDG Shen challenged the factual basis for
    some of Nowak´s recommendations. Shen said errors in
    translation caused Nowak to mistakenly conclude that
    prisoners are subject to torture, when in fact this is
    not the case. Shen said Nowak had been "misled" by
    prisoners and other people he interviewed.

    ¶6. (C) A public security official present at the
    meetings said Nowak mistakenly used the term
    "arbitrary detention" in describing Chinese practice.
    She said Nowak should have acknowledged that
    detentions in China are "according to law," though she
    did not address the question of whether Chinese law is
    arbitrary. The public security official also said
    "Reeducation-Through-Labor" is necessary in China, and
    is "very likely to stay." DG Wu said an inter-
    department group continues to work on ICCPR
    ratification, with some departments holding the view
    that the ICCPR cannot be ratified because it "totally
    contravenes Chinese law." The public security
    official, though not going so far as to say that the
    ICCPR cannot be ratified, said she is certain the
    ratified version will include an exception allowing
    various forms of administrative detention including
    RTL because they have a "long and important tradition"
    in China.

    ¶7. (C) Tension relaxed to a degree when the topic
    turned to combating racism, an item placed on the
    dialogue agenda by the Chinese. According to [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN],
    DG Wu and DDG Shen raised numerous examples of
    reported racism in Europe. The EU side did not deny
    the cases or belittle the Chinese side´s comments
    about them which, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, set a "good example" for
    the Chinese and also improved the atmosphere at the
    meeting. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the Chinese "seemed to realize
    the EU really tried to answer" their stated concerns
    about racism.

    ¶8. (C) Concerning claims of organ harvesting, DG Wu
    said that assertions of mass organ harvesting of Falun
    Gong practitioners are "outrageous" and that "many
    Americans are furious about these lies." He said the
    Chinese Government is likely to take up organ donation
    as a topic for further legislative or regulatory
    action. (Note: British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] separately
    told poloff that Maurice Slapak, a British transplant
    surgeon, is working with Chinese officials to revise
    China´s organ transplant regulations. The new
    provisions, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said, will (a) require disclosure of
    agreements by prisoners to donate organs; (b) prohibit
    the use of organs originating in China in surgeries
    performed outside the country; (c) encourage organ
    donation by Chinese citizens; (d) set standards for
    determining whether a person is brain dead; and (e)
    specify procedures for deciding what doctors and
    hospitals can perform transplant surgeries. End
    note.)

    ¶9. (C) Ambassador Gronberg raised the September 30
    shooting of Tibetans at the Nangpa Pass, asking the
    Chinese for clarification and to investigate the
    incident thoroughly. DG Wu agreed to investigate and
    report back to the EU on thi incident as information
    becomes available. However, he cavalierly ascribed
    the incident to "normal border guard behavior" and
    told EU human rights interlocutors he thought their
    "border guards would have acted the same way." EU
    human rights officials passed a list of 76 prisoner
    cases to the Chinese several days before the dialogue.
    The EU received substantive responses in 11 cases and
    the Chinese have promised additional responses in
    other cases.

    ¶10. (C) EU Delegation Representative [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
    said that Chinese participants in the October 19
    dialogue generally seemed more confident than in
    previous China-EU dialogue rounds, and even arrogant
    at times. As evidence of this, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said DG Wu
    simply did not pay attention to EU interlocutors
    during some of the discussions. DDG Shen, [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said,
    even laughed at some comments made by EU participants.
    Shen complained about the Bern Process, saying that it
    "offends China´s dignity." He told the EU that it
    should withdraw from the Bern Process and that
    pressure on the Chinese through this channel will be
    "counterproductive."
    Action Following Tibet Border Incident

    --------------------------------------------- -------

    ¶11. (C) Several Embassies reported that they have
    raised concerns about the September 30 shooting
    incident near Nangpa Pass. Canadian Embassy [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN]
    said the Canadian Government
    raised the Tibet incident with the Chinese Embassy in
    Ottawa, but has been stymied by MFA refusals to meet
    with Canadian Embassy officials in Beijing. Swedish
    Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported that the Swedish
    government raised the Tibet incident with FM Li
    Zhaoxing on October 12. On October 16, a Swedish
    delegation in Tibet raised the issue with local
    officials, who claimed not to have heard of the
    incident. Australian Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said the
    Australian Embassy delivered a demarche on the Tibet
    incident last week to the MFA.

    ¶12. (C) Other Embassies reported plans to raise the
    Tibet incident with Chinese officials. Swiss Foreign
    Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey will discuss the incident
    in October 27 meetings with FM Li. A German
    delegation will raise the incident with MFA
    International Organizations officials during the next
    round of the China-German human rights dialogue on
    October 30 and 31. Norway and New Zealand, whose
    representatives were not present at the October 26
    human rights watchers meeting, reportedly have either
    raised the Tibet incident with Chinese officials or
    plan to do so soon.
    Jia Qinglin Discusses Religion With Archbishop

    --------------------------------------------- -

    ¶13. (C) British Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] reported on
    Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams´ recent visit
    to China, which is the third visit by a head of the
    Anglican Church to China. In an October 19 meeting,
    CPPCC Chairman and Politburo member Jia Qinglin told
    Williams that the formal "Decision" of the Central
    Committee´s recent Sixth Plenum contains the first
    ever high-level Party pronouncement commenting
    positively on the role of religion in China. The
    "Decision" on China's future economic and social
    development passed this month states: "we should
    strengthen the unity among the religious masses, those
    without religious belief, and those believing in
    different religions and bring the positive role of
    religion into play in promoting social harmony." Jia
    told Williams that religion can play an important role
    in China´s efforts to build a "harmonious society,"
    though he also affirmed that this role must be
    "according to law." In a separate meeting with
    Assistant Foreign Minister Kong Quan, Kong told
    Williams that the Dalai Lama´s "hidden agenda" is
    Tibetan independence.
    China Says It Will Not Cut Back On China-UK Dialogue

    --------------------------------------------- -------

    ¶14. (C) Post earlier reported (reftel) that Chinese
    officials told the British Embassy it will cut back
    the frequency of its formal human rights dialogue with
    the United Kingdom to one round per year. British
    Emboff [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] said CPPCC Chair Jia told British Lord
    Chancellor Lord Falconer on October 25 that the number
    of rounds will remain at two per year. [TEXT REMOVED BY AFTENPOSTEN] believes
    Jia´s statement reflects recognition among senior
    Chinese officials of the "political value" of
    dialogue, which trumps lower-level MFA officials´
    "working level" preference for fewer rounds.

    Randt

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