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### Viewing cable 05MADRID2588, AMBASSADOR'S MEETING WITH MOD BONO

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05MADRID2588 | 2005-07-08 15:03 | 2010-12-08 21:09 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Madrid

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    This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 MADRID 002588

    SIPDIS

    DEPARTMENT FOR EUR A/S FRIED AND EUR/WE
    NSC FOR HADLEY

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/08/2015
    TAGS: PREL MARR SP VZ
    SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR'S MEETING WITH MOD BONO

    Classified By: Ambassador Eduardo Aguirre; reasons 1.4 (B) and (D)

    ¶1. (C) Summary. The Ambassador held a successful first
    meeting on July 6 with Minister of Defense Jose Bono and CHOD
    General Felix Sanz. Bono thanked the Ambassador for the
    USG's warm reception during his visit to the U.S. in early
    May, particularly during his productive meeting with
    Secretary Rumsfeld. Bono said he hoped the Ambassador's

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    arrival would help further the excellent U.S.-Spain defense
    relationship. He cited the USG's unimpeded access to the
    bases at Rota and Moron as symbols of Spain's commitment to
    cooperate with the USG. Bono discussed the upcoming
    deployment of Spanish forces to Afghanistan and requested USG
    airlift support for this deployment in the form of four USAF
    C-17s. He expressed appreciation for the USG's confidence in
    authorizing the transfer of Tomahawk missile technology to
    Spain. The Ambassador asked about the status of the S-80
    submarine weapons system contract. Bono said that Spain had
    made a decision "favorable to a U.S. company," but said he
    would not announce this decision immediately so that it would
    not appear to be a quid pro quo for the Tomahawks. The
    Ambassador pressed Bono on the Venezuela weapons sale, making
    clear that this was still an issue of contention for the USG.
    Bono insisted that the naval vessels and aircraft would be
    non-offensive and would probably not be delivered for another
    six years, during which time Bono expected Chavez would leave
    the scene. Further, Bono said that if Spain found that
    Venezuela were "pursuing a path against the principles of
    democracy," the GOS would not sell the vessels to Venezuela.
    End Summary.

    ¶2. (C) The Ambassador met with Bono at the Ministry of
    Defense, accompanied by DCM, Political Counselor Kathy
    Fitzpatrick, DATT Captain Kevin Little, and ODC commander
    Captain Carlos Sotomayor. Bono was accompanied by CHOD
    General Sanz, Secretary General for Defense Policy Admiral
    Francisco Torrente, Army Chief of Staff General Jose Antonio
    Garcia Gonzalez, and MOD Chief of Staff Miguel Fernandez
    Palacios Martinez. Bono said he was very appreciative of the
    USG's warm reception during his early May visit to the U.S.,
    which he viewed as a clear signal that U.S.-Spain defense
    relations could not be better. He was especially pleased
    with his meeting with Secretary Rumsfeld. With the
    Ambassador's arrival, Bono said he hoped the excellent
    relations would continue at the same level.
    //BILATERAL ISSUES - CUBA, 3U COMMERCIAL DISPUTE//

    ¶3. (C) Bono expressed interest in the Ambassador's Cuban
    ancestry. The Ambassador shared his experiences growing up
    in Cuba and as an immigrant to the U.S. He said Cuba was
    clearly an important issue for the U.S. and Spain, but only
    one of many that he would deal with during his tenure in
    Madrid. The Ambassador noted that the most important point
    on Cuba was that both the U.S. and Spain believed in a free
    Cuba that would promote democratic values in the region. He
    cited the USG's disagreement with Spain's move to block EU
    invitations to national day events, saying that while it
    appeared to be a minor issue, it sent the wrong message and
    demoralized the opposition.

    ¶4. (C) Bono raised the issue of the U.S. commercial vessel,
    the "3U." He said the MFA had requested that the MOD be
    prepared to board the 3U since it was conducting operations
    in Spanish waters in disregard of Spanish sovereignty. DCM
    explained that there was a discrepancy between the USG and
    GOS views on this issue, since we believed the 3U was
    operating appropriately as a commercial vessel, while the MFA
    insisted it was a scientific vessel and required GOS
    authorization in order to proceed with its plans to lay cable
    through Spanish waters. DCM said that the USG had duly
    requested authorization for the 3U through a note verbale,
    but that the issue remained in dispute. Bono made clear his
    desire that this issue not become a problem in bilateral
    defense relations.

    //BONO - SPAIN COMMITTED TO DEFENSE COOPERATION//

    ¶5. (C) Bono described the USG's unimpeded access to the
    Spanish navy base at Rota and the air base at Moron as
    indications of Spain's commitment to defense cooperation,
    saying the USG essentially could essentially operate from
    both bases as if they were its own. Bono raised the issue of
    stalled USAFE-Spanish Air Force discussions on Spain's desire
    to use some Moron air base ramp space to park its Eurofighter
    aircraft, on the understanding that the Spanish aircraft
    would vacate the space if the U.S. needed full capacity for
    any contingency. The Ambassador said he was aware of the
    problem and would travel to Moron the next day to see it for
    himself. He said the issue would be dealt with through
    appropriate channels.

    ¶6. (C) Bono discussed the upcoming deployment of Spanish
    troops to Afghanistan to co-lead the Herat FSB, lead a PRT in
    western Afghanistan, and provide additional security for the
    parliamentary elections in the fall. Bono said it would be
    useful if the USG could provide airlift in the form of four
    C-17 aircraft to help transport Spanish forces to the region.
    He said media coverage of such assistance would be an
    opportunity to showcase the high level of U.S.-Spain defense
    cooperation. The Ambassador said we appreciated the value of
    promoting such cooperation and would convey his request to
    the Department of Defense.

    //THANKS FOR THE TOMAHAWKS, STILL NO S-80 ANNOUNCEMENT//

    ¶7. (C) Minister Bono said he had received a letter from
    Secretary Rumsfeld authorizing the transfer of Tomahawk

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    missile technology to Spain. The Ambassador said Spain
    should be proud of that honor, since we had only shared that
    technology with two other allies, the UK and The Netherlands.
    Bono said he understood this and appreciated the USG's
    confidence in Spain.

    ¶8. (C) The Ambassador asked about the status of the S-80
    submarine weapons system contract, in which two U.S. firms
    are competing with French and German companies. Bono
    responded that Spain had essentially made the decision
    already and that it would be favorable to a U.S. company.
    However, Bono claimed that he wanted to put some distance
    between the Tomahawk decision and the Spanish decision on the
    S-80 so that the two issues would not appear linked. Also,
    Bono said he planned to attend the Bastille Day parade in
    Paris on July 14 and did not want to disappoint the French
    government, which has pushed hard in support of a French
    company on the S-80 contract, before that event.

    //VENEZUELA//

    ¶9. (C) The Ambassador raised Spanish arms sales to Venezuela,
    noting that we understood that Spain had already made the
    commitment to transfer the vessels to Venezuela, but that the
    USG did not share the Zapatero government's apparent faith in
    the Chavez regime to use the weapons for non-offensive use.
    Bono said that he had discussed this issue with Secretary
    Rumsfeld, noting in that conversation that several countries
    sold weapons to Venezuela, including the U.S. Bono asserted
    that he had explained the Venezuela arms sale in detail and
    believed he had satisfied Secretary Rumsfeld's concerns. The
    Ambassador said that, notwithstanding Bono's conversation
    with Secretary Rumsfeld, there was still deep concern
    regarding this issue at the highest levels of the USG. Bono
    said that the media had mischaracterized the nature of the
    items being sold to Venezuela, insisting that they would be
    non-offensive transport aircraft and coastal patrol vessels.
    The Ambassador said the USG would look very skeptically on
    any transfer of USG technology to Venezuela as part of this
    sale. Bono responded that since the vessels would be built
    as coastal patrol ships and not as military vessels, the
    would not carry any U.S. technology of concern.

    ¶10. (C) On Venezuela's political direction and possible role
    in undermining regional stability, Bono asserted that Spain
    had the same fundamental concerns as the USG. He said that
    if Spain determined that the Chavez government was "pursuing
    a path that is against the principle of democracy that both
    the U.S. and Spain share," the GOS would not sell the weapons
    to Venezuela. Bono said that the actual transfer of the
    weapons would not take place for six years and he speculated
    that it was highly unlikely that Chavez would still be in
    power by that time.
    AGUIRRE

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