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### Viewing cable 09ULAANBAATAR234, MONGOLIA'S CONSULTATIONS WITH DPRK VICE FOREIGN

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09ULAANBAATAR234 | 2009-08-13 08:08 | 2010-11-29 21:09 | SECRET | Embassy Ulaanbaatar
Appears in these articles: www.spiegel.de

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    O 130854Z AUG 09
    FM AMEMBASSY ULAANBAATAR
    TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 2981
    INFO AMEMBASSY BEIJING PRIORITY
    AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PRIORITY
    AMEMBASSY SEOUL PRIORITY
    AMEMBASSY TOKYO PRIORITY
    PACOM JIOC HONOLULU HI PRIORITY
    SECDEF WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    NSC WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY

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    <<220571>>
    8/13/2009 8:54
    09ULAANBAATAR234
    Embassy Ulaanbaatar
    SECRET

    O 130854Z AUG 09
    FM AMEMBASSY ULAANBAATAR
    TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 2981
    INFO AMEMBASSY BEIJING PRIORITY
    AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PRIORITY
    AMEMBASSY SEOUL PRIORITY
    AMEMBASSY TOKYO PRIORITY
    PACOM JIOC HONOLULU HI PRIORITY
    SECDEF WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    NSC WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    TAGS: PREL PGOV MOPS KNNP MG
    SUBJECT: MONGOLIA'S CONSULTATIONS WITH DPRK VICE FOREIGN

    S e c r e t ulaanbaatar 000234

    State for eap/cm and eap/k; nsc for jeff bader

    E.o. 12958: decl: 08/13/2034
    Tags: prel, pgov, mops, knnp, mg
    Subject: mongolia's consultations with dprk vice foreign
    minister kim

    Classified By: Political Counselor Andrew K. Covington, Reasons 1.4 (b)
    and (d)

    ¶1. (S) Summary: xxxxx. MFAT xxxxx led the Mongolian side, and the North
    Koreans met with President Elbegdorj on the sidelines of the
    consultation. xxxxx
    little on the bilateral relationship with Mongolia. Key
    themes on the part of the DPRK were the lack of criticism of
    the United States, indications that the DPRK is seeking
    bilateral talks with the USG on normalization of relations,
    that the recent travel of former President Clinton to
    Pyongyang has greatly improved the prospects for such talks,
    that Mongolia would be an appropriate venue for these talks,
    and that the Six Party Talks are no longer an option. End
    Summary.

    ¶2. (S) xxxxx discuss Mongolia's annual bilateral
    consultations with the DPRK. xxxxx was present at the
    consultations and has been involved with Korean affairs as a
    diplomat since 1985. xxxxx was candid in his meetings with
    poloff, referring repeatedly and xxxxx the DPRK consultations.

    -------------------------------------------
    dprk delegation offers no criticism of u.s.
    -------------------------------------------

    ¶3. (S) xxxxx indicated that VFM Kim met with MFAT State
    Secretary Tsogtbaatar for the consultations and also held a
    separate meeting with President Elbegdorj on the margins
    Monday. The Mongolian Deputy Foreign Minister was to lead
    this latter meeting but was unable due to an obligation.
    xxxxx said the meetings were notable for several reasons:
    the DPRK delegation did not read from a prepared script, they
    were not aggressive and made no criticism of the United
    States, and they criticized China and Russia "three or four
    times" for supporting recent UN Resolutions aimed at the
    DPRK. What follows in paras 4 through 12 xxxxx
    description to poloff of the DPRK's statements during the
    course of the consultations:

    ----------------------------
    dprk vfm on denuclearization
    ----------------------------

    ¶4. (S)xxxxx
    said the DPRK is not a threat and was only interested in
    self-protection. The Mongolian side expressed concern that a
    nuclear DPRK could lead to a nuclear ROK, Japan, Syria, and
    Iran, and urged that the Mongolian nuclear-free model could
    serve as an example. xxxxx stated the United States would not
    allow Japan or the ROK to go nuclear and that the DPRK is
    committed to peace and denuclearization.

    ¶5. (S) The Mongolians offered the example of the Soviet Union
    and the United States during the Reagan-Gorbachev era, when
    the two allowed for nuclear inspections, leading to improved
    trust and a reduction in the number of warheads. The
    Mongolians stated that if they were in the DPRK's place now,
    they would allow inspections, which would lead to mutual
    confidence and improved relations. The DPRK side offered no
    reaction to the suggestion.

    ¶6. (S) The DPRK side said what is most important is for the
    United States and the DPRK to come up with a "common
    language," a "non-aggression agreement," and establishment of
    diplomatic relations. xxxxx stated if the sides can take such
    measures, then denuclearization will be possible and easy,
    and that relations with Japan and the ROK will normalize
    thereafter.

    ¶7. (S) The Mongolian side counseled that recent
    "provocations"xxxxx; another word
    may have been used in the consultations) such as the missile
    test meant that the present situation was very fragile, and
    that the DPRK should be careful not to present the wrong
    signal. xxxxx The Mongolians stated that even if one has
    peaceful intentions, one can be seen as provocative.

    --------------------------------
    on bilateral talks with the u.s.
    --------------------------------

    ¶8. (S) Regarding former President Clinton's recent travel to
    the DPRK to secure of the release of the two journalists, Kim
    said this action had been prepared for a long time, meaning
    the groundwork for such a visit was already in place because
    of the progress the United States and the DPRK made during
    the Clinton presidency. Kim said forward motion stopped
    during the Bush Administration but was now able to proceed
    because of President Clinton's recent involvement in a
    personal capacity, because President Obama is of the same
    party, and because former First Lady Clinton is now the
    Secretary of State. The North Koreans were expecting a
    dialogue with the United States to start soon as an extension
    of President Clinton's visit.

    ¶9. (S) Kim asked the Mongolians to support a U.S.-DPRK
    dialogue xxxxx stated "there are no eternal enemies in this
    world."

    ----------------------
    on the six party talks
    ----------------------

    ¶10. (S) Kim took a "very hard line" on the Six Party Talks
    according to xxxxx stating that the DPRK will never return
    to the talks, that the talks were dead, but that the door has
    not closed on an opportunity for negotiations. During
    discussion of the Six Party Talks, Kim criticized Russia and
    China for their support of recent UN resolutions aimed at the
    DPRK. Kim said Japan and the ROK were natural allies of the
    United States during the talks, and that Russia and China
    ended up supporting the other three, so that the DPRK felt it
    was five against one. Kim stated the real intention of the
    Six Party Talks was to destroy the DPRK regime, and that at
    present the DPRK wants to talk only to the United States.

    ------------------------------------------
    vfm kim's meeting with president elbegdorj
    ------------------------------------------

    ¶11. (S) xxxxx provided insight into Kim's meeting with
    Elbegdorj on August 10: Kim refrained from criticizing the
    United States and stated the DPRK would be happy if the GOM
    could support a U.S.-DPRK dialogue "in the international
    arena." Kim said to Elbegdorj, "We are telling you all this
    because Mongolia understand us." Kim reiterated the notion
    that there is a "good personal understanding" between former
    President Clinton and DPRK leader Kim Jong-Il.

    --------------------------------------
    how about u.s.-dprk talks in mongolia?
    --------------------------------------

    ¶12. (S) xxxxx further noted that a xxxxx in Ulaanbaatar xxxxx on the way to the
    airport on August 11 that he had suggested to VFM Kim that it
    would be good to host U.S.-DPRK talks in Mongolia, but that
    Kim offered no reaction.xxxxx that the
    timing was right to establish a regional security mechanism
    whose organization the Mongols should spearhead.

    Minton

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