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### Viewing cable 09PARIS264, S/WCI AMBASSADOR WILLIAMSON DISCUSSES GUANTANAMO

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    S E C R E T PARIS 000264

    NOFORN
    SIPDIS

    C O R R E C T E D COPY CAPTION
    E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/19/2019
    TAGS: PGOV PREL MOPS PTER PHUM KAWK KISL KPAO FR
    SUBJECT: S/WCI AMBASSADOR WILLIAMSON DISCUSSES GUANTANAMO
    BAY DETAINEES WITH FRENCH OFFICIALS

    REF: A. SECSTATE 6516
    ¶B. PARIS 00119
    ¶C. PARIS 02016
    ¶D. VILNIUS 88

    Classified By: POL MC Kathleen H. Allegrone for reasons 1.4 (B & D).

    ¶1. (S/NF) SUMMARY: S/WCI Ambassador Williamson met with
    French MFA officials on February 16 to discuss detainee
    issues, France's role in the EU process and possible
    resettlement of Guantanamo Bay detainees in France.
    Williamson noted that France has a unique role to play in
    formulating a process within the European Union (EU) to
    accept detainees and helping assuage the concerns of member
    states that might stymie EU consensus on the issue. Foreign
    Ministry Director of Communications and spokesman Eric
    Chevallier reiterated France's willingness to assist the U.S.
    on this issue (ref b and c), but noted that the GOF position
    was "very clear": detainees would be reviewed on a
    case-by-case basis; the detainee had to specifically request
    resettlement in France; and France would need full
    information on interested detainees to review any security
    and judicial implications. Chevallier said the GOF supports
    an open EU process that would allow decisions to be made on a
    national basis, similar to what current EU president the
    Czech Republic has proposed. The most important issue, he
    said, would be addressing concerns among Schengen countries.
    Williamson said the U.S. is aware of the complexities of the
    Schengen issue and pledges to work with EU partners as they
    address these concerns. Chevallier said the GOF was also
    concerned about recent USG talks with Lithuania on detainees
    (ref d). France, he cautioned, was standing firm on the
    necessity of an EU process before implementation of bilateral
    agreements between the USG and EU member states on the
    matter. Williamson noted that recent public pledges by
    Lithuania to accept Guantanamo detainees were the result of
    almost two years of talks, and that Lithuania has been firm
    that implementation of an agreement to accept detainees would
    occur only after agreement of a common EU position.

    ¶2. (S/NF) SUMMARY CONTINUED: Chevallier noted French concern
    that former detainees, after being released from Guantanamo,
    could return to or become involved in terrorist activities.
    Williamson noted that of the approximately 60 detainees for
    whom the U.S. was seeking resettlement all had been
    previously approved for transfer. Chevallier asked if there
    were any USG plans to transfer detainees to other parts of
    the U.S. without the promise of a swift trial and if the U.S.
    was going to accept some of these low-risk detainees.
    Chevallier claimed that the more information France had
    regarding these issues the better able it would be to
    persuade the French public and other EU member states by
    highlighting U.S. efforts to resettle the detainees.
    Williamson replied that the interagency review process headed
    by the Attorney General would try to answer these and other
    questions regarding the detainees. Chevallier gave his
    support to help with future meetings on this issue with the
    French ministries of justice and the interior. END SUMMARY.

    ¶3. (SBU) S/WCI Ambassador Clint Williamson met on February 16
    with French MFA advisors to the foreign minister Eric
    Chevallier and Sylvie Pantz, as well as with MFA Desk Officer
    for Strategic Affairs Camille Petit. Charg Mark Pekala,
    Embassy poloff and Shaun Coughlin (S/WCI) also participated.

    Detainees: French Open to Helping U.S.
    --------------------------------------

    ¶4. (S/NF) In response to President Obama's January 22
    Executive Order to close detention facilities at Guantanamo
    Bay Naval Base (ref a), French FM Kouchner publicly gave his
    support to review the idea of accepting detainees deemed not
    to be a security risk (ref b). S/WCI Ambassador Williamson
    followed up with advisors to the French foreign minister on
    February 16 to seek GOF cooperation on the resettlement of
    Guantanamo detainees. Williamson noted that President Obama
    and Secretary Clinton strongly believe closing the detention
    center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba is a critical foreign policy
    issue facing the USG. Secretary Clinton asked Williamson to
    meet with European partners to explain the USG position on
    this matter since the change of administration. Williamson
    thanked France for its help on this issue, noting that France
    has a unique role to play in formulating a process within the
    European Union (EU) to accept detainees and helping assuage
    the concerns of member states that might stymie EU consensus
    on the issue.

    ¶5. (S/NF) Foreign Ministry spokesman Eric Chevallier
    reiterated France's willingness to assist the U.S. on this
    issue (ref b and c), but clarified the GOF position:
    detainees would be reviewed on a case-by-case basis; the

    detainee had to specifically request resettlement in France;
    and France would need full information on interested
    detainees in order to review any security and judicial
    implications. Chevallier said the GOF was "happy, in
    principal" that the prison would be closed, but noted that
    any agreement by France to accept detainees could not be
    centered on discussions of "numbers" (i.e., France, and other
    EU members, cannot be told they have to accept a specific
    number of detainees).

    French Stress Importance of Common EU Position
    --------------------------------------------- -

    ¶6. (S/NF) Chevallier said the GOF supports an open EU process
    that would allow decisions to be made on a national basis,
    similar to what the Czech Republic has been proposing. The
    most important issue, he said, would be addressing concerns
    among Schengen countries. Williamson said the U.S. was aware
    of the complexities of the Schengen issue and pledged to work
    with EU partners as they address these concerns. Williamson
    said the USG was concerned about the potential for any EU
    process to drag out, especially by EU member states that did
    not want to accept detainees. The USG hopes that France
    could play an important role to assuage these concerns.
    Chevallier noted that while there would not be complete
    consensus within the EU on whether to accept detainees the
    GOF would push other EU member states to be more open. There
    was room for EU evolution in a common position, he said.
    Williamson also noted that EU members Ireland and Portugal
    were wary of an EU process that did not allow for
    flexibility, as what happened when both of these countries
    were directed by the EU to take Palestinian militants
    involved in the 2002 siege of the Church of the Nativity in
    Bethlehem. Chevallier said that Church of the Nativity
    scenario was unlikely to happen again. Rather, a solution
    such as what the Czechs were now proposing seemed more likely
    as it hinged on flexibility.

    ¶7. (S/NF) Chevallier said the GOF was also concerned about
    recent USG talks with Lithuania on the matter (ref d); he
    hoped Williamson could provide him with more details on those
    discussions. Regarding Lithuania, Williamson noted that
    recent public statements by that government to accept
    Guantanamo detainees were the result of almost two years of
    talks. He said that Lithuania was interested in accepting
    some of the Uzbek detainees because these detainees -- as was
    deemed by the GOL -- could best fit into Lithuanian society
    due to a common language and the presence of a large Uzbek
    population in the country. Williamson clarified that the GOL
    intended to implement a decision to accept these detainees
    only once an EU framework had been agreed on. Williamson
    also explained that the U.S. would continue to pursue
    bilateral discussions with interested states as the EU
    process progressed. He said that it would create inordinate
    delays if bilateral discussions had to be put on hold until
    the EU process was completed, and stressed that this was
    entirely consistent with the preferred Czech approach of
    creating a "permissive EU environment in which member states
    could decide to accept detainees." Chevallier agreed that
    this was a logical way forward.

    Detainees: French Concerns about Security
    -----------------------------------------

    ¶8. (S/NF) Sylvie Pantz said the GOF was concerned about the
    reliability of information now available on detainees. She
    said that the GOF would need as much case information as
    possible in order to make a proper assessment. Pantz noted
    that recent requests by the NGO community -- Reprieve and
    Human Rights Watch -- to the GOF to accept detainees lacked
    details, which made it difficult to verify claims of abuse
    and assess security concerns. She was hoping the U.S. could
    help fill these gaps. Williamson noted that a major change
    within the Obama administration's approach was moving lead
    responsibility for detainee status reviews from the
    Department of Defense to the Department of Justice. The
    Attorney General would now lead the interagency process.
    Williamson said the process would ensure that all information
    pertaining to a detainee was compiled in one place, that
    fresh reviews of the material would take place in order to
    determine prosecutability and that renewed threat assessments
    would be undertaken. He said the USG was happy to facilitate
    visits to Guantanamo to interview detainees who might be
    resettled, as well as share medical and case records. So
    far, he noted, there were 60 low-risk detainees who had been
    previously approved for transfer and it was unlikely the
    security assessment for these individuals would be raised,
    although it was possible.

    ¶9. (S/NF) Pantz and Chevallier asked about recent reports of

    detainees who, after being released, return to or become
    involved in terrorist activities. Chevallier said there were
    concerns in France that detainees determined to be low-risk
    before entering Guantanamo could, depending on their
    experiences in the detention center, pose serious risks to
    security once released. Williamson said that out of the 525
    detainees already released, over 500 returned to their home
    countries. Forty to 60 of these individuals were thought to
    have engaged in some sort of terrorist actions, ranging from
    minor to larger acts, such as reports of detainees returning
    to the battlefield in Iraq or Afghanistan. However, he
    noted, all of these cases had been previously assessed as
    higher risk, which was very different from the detainees for
    whom the U.S. was now seeking to resettle. Williamson said
    threat level assessments were based on the present state of
    the detainee, taking into account interviews, psychiatric
    evaluations and other reviews. He indicated that the one
    other case of low-threat detainee resettlements, to Albania,
    had gone well and that the eight former detainees had
    assimilated to varying degrees into life there. Further,
    France could be assured that the U.S. would share any
    security concerns regarding the detainees with its friends
    and allies.

    French Questions about U.S. Plans to Resettle Detainees
    --------------------------------------------- ----------

    ¶10. (S/NF) Chevallier asked if there were any USG plans to
    transfer high-risk detainees to the U.S. without the promise
    of a swift trial. He also asked if the U.S. was going to
    accept some of the low-risk detainees. Chevallier noted that
    more information France had regarding these issues the better
    able it would be to persuade the French public and other EU
    member states by highlighting U.S. efforts to find a solution
    to the detainee issue. Williamson replied that the
    interagency review process would try to answer these and
    other questions regarding the detainees. That aside, he said
    the Obama administration realizes it would be a bad idea to
    simply move detainees from one place to another as it would
    not adequately address the problem. Pantz asked whether
    detainees who could not return home but were seeking to be
    resettled would simply receive a wish list of potential
    accepting countries. Williamson said the U.S. was looking
    into options to establish links with potential accepting
    nations and the detainee, such as what was recently done with
    the Uzbeks and Lithuania, but clarified that the USG was
    reluctant to simply ask detainees where they would like to go
    as it could complicate the resettlement process.

    Future Talks: Offer to Help
    ---------------------------

    ¶11. (S/NF) Chevallier suggested that for future visits
    Williamson should also speak to representatives from the
    French ministries of justice and the interior. He said the
    MFA would take the lead on setting up these meetings for
    Williamson,s next visit to France.

    ¶12. (U) SWCI Williamson has cleared this message.
    PEKALA

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