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### Viewing cable 09BAMAKO776, AMBASSADOR AND GENERAL WARD MEET WITH MALIAN

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    S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 03 BAMAKO 000776

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/30/2019
    TAGS: ASEC ML PGOV PINR PREL PTER
    SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR AND GENERAL WARD MEET WITH MALIAN
    PRESIDENT AMADOU TOUMANI TOURE

    REF: A. A. BAMAKO 754
    ¶B. B. 2008 BAMAKO 217

    Classified By: Ambassador Gillian Milovanovic, Embassy Bamako, for reas
    ons 1.4 (b) (d).

    SUMMARY

    ¶1. (S) On November 27 the Ambassador and Commander of the
    U.S. Africa Command, General William E. ("Kip") Ward, met
    with Malian President Amadou Toumani Toure (ATT) to discuss
    security in Northern Mali. ATT reiterated his commitment to
    take action against Al Q'Aida in the Lands of the Islamic
    Maghreb, now possibly in January. General Ward encouraged
    the President to follow through with convening the Bamako
    Summit. ATT indicated he plans to travel to Algiers to meet
    with Algerian President Bouteflika to set the date ,
    demonstrate his commitment and gain his support. ATT and
    General Ward agreed that, with or without regional
    cooperation, Mali has no choice but to move forward in
    confronting terrorist and criminal elements in the North.

    THANKS FOR SUPPORT WITH HARD LANDING

    ¶2. (S) On November 27 the Ambassador and U.S. Africa
    Command General William E. ("Kip") Ward met with Malian
    President Amadou Toumani Toure (ATT). The Ambassador and
    General Ward were accompanied by Foreign Policy Advisor Dr.
    Raymond L. Brown and AFRICOM Public Affairs Director Colonel
    Frank Childress. ATT was accompanied by Minister of Defense
    Natie Pleah, Secretary General to the PresidencyDiango
    Cissoko, and Chief of Defense Poudiougou. General Ward
    thanked the President for Mali's support in the recent hard
    landing of a plane carrying U.S. military personnel
    approximately 65 miles outside of Bamako. ATT reiterated ref
    A comments that it was only natural Mali should help, since
    after all he knew the United States was coming to help Mali.

    PROGRESS AND CONCERNS IN NORTHERN MALI
    ¶3. (S) ATT said that since General Ward's last visit (ref
    B) the Tuareg rebellion had been brought to an end. Even the
    head of the most recent rebellion has sent a message of
    peace, and ten or so of the former rebels, "since they like
    to fight so much" are being sent off to support the African
    Union Mission in Somalia (see IIR 6 958 0021 10). ATT said
    he had concerns about the Salafists, another term for Al
    Q'Aida in the Lands of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM). While the
    Salafists have had difficulty getting their message across to
    a generally reluctant population, they have had some success
    in enlisting disaffected youth to their ranks. He said the
    Malian Army is at a turning point, with the older generation
    in the military giving way to a younger, less experienced
    one. In this regard, he thanked General Ward for the
    training the United States is providing to the recently
    created Echelons Tactiques Inter-Arme (ETIAs).

    NEED FOR MORE REGIONAL COOPERATION

    ¶4. (S) ATT lamented that regional cooperation appears to
    be stalled. Mauritanian President Aziz is a soldier who
    understands the situation. He has put the recent political
    troubles behind him and is working well with Mali. Niger has
    always been a good partner. Although the country has its own
    Tuareg rebellion problem and is focused on a domestic
    political crisis, Niger continues to work well together with
    Mali. Military cooperation with Algeria is the problem. ATT
    said the Algerians think we do not do anything, and they are
    not totally wrong, but we need Algeria's help in terms of air
    support. It is not just a matter of destroying a couple of
    AQIM bases, we have to be able to hold the territory. The
    longer the situation drags on, the stronger the Salafists
    will get.

    ¶5. (S) ATT directly linked revenues from drug trafficking
    to terrorism. He said the Boeing 727 which had been set fire
    near Tarkint, in Northern Mali after it got stuck in the sand
    on or about October 30 may have been carrying drugs. Mali
    is cooperating with friendly countries to try to gain
    information about the nature of the flight and has lodged
    complaints about the violation of its air space with Interpol
    and with the UN Office of Drugs and Crime. ATT said security
    will be easier to achieve with three or four countries

    BAMAKO 00000776 002 OF 003

    working together rather than alone. If the other countries
    cannot agree, then of course we have to do it ourselves, he
    said.

    UNITED STATES COMMITTED TO HELP

    ¶6. (S) General Ward thanked the President for catching him
    up on the situation. He said he is happy to hear of the
    President's continued commitment to fighting terrorism. If
    the government of Mali is unable to gain better control over
    under-governed territory, it will continue to give free reign
    to arms and drug traffickers and terrorists, frustrating
    legitimate development efforts. General Ward said that, with
    Ambassador Milovanovic, we are paying close attention to how
    we can increase the capacity of the Malian Army to eliminate
    the threat posed. The United States is looking to ensure a
    continuum of training and maintenance capacity building.
    Keeping trained units together and using the equipment
    provided in a sustainable manner will help Mali achieve its
    goals.

    ¶7. (S) General Ward said he shares ATT's analysis that the
    bad guys do not respect borders and that Mali needs regional
    cooperation. Having just come from Algeria, General Ward
    said he had made the same point to Algerian President
    Abdelaziz Bouteflika, as well as to the Algerian Ministers of
    Foreign Affairs and Defense, and to the Chief of Defense:
    all agreed to the need for regional cooperation. General
    Ward said he would be looking for signs of increased
    cooperation on the ground.

    ¶8. (S) The USG supports the implementation and follow-on
    to the meeting of Chiefs of Defense in Tamanrassett, Algeria
    as well as the heads of state meeting in Bamako. General
    Ward said he hopes the joint operations center discussed in
    Tamanrassett will become a reality soon, and will be able to
    support operations in the North of Mali. Once the operations
    center becomes a reality, the USG stands ready to assist with
    training and equipment if asked, as well as providing
    transparent updates on U.S. security engagement with regional
    partners. General Ward said he was very impressed by ATT's
    statement that, whether or not the neighbors get involved in
    a constructive manner, he would be taking responsibility for
    security in the North. "When that step is taken, no one will
    be able to say you have not done anything."

    MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER

    ¶9. (S) The President said he shares General Ward's views.
    He noted the frank and excellent working relationship he has
    with Ambassador Milovanovic, noting wryly that he is
    sometimes embarrassed by, but always appreciates, her
    directness. Returning to security questions, he described
    his childhood memory of "the dance of death" from the village
    in which he grew up: If you dance too far ahead, you die; if
    you dance too far behind, you die; if you do not dance at
    all, you die. That is the way it is in the fight against the
    Salafists, he said. We have no choice but to move ahead
    together.

    ¶10. (S) Chief of Defense General Gabriel Poudiougou
    mentioned that the Algerian Special Forces Commander had just
    left Bamako November 26 after a two day visit in which he
    worked with his Malian counterparts to establish a
    transmission network and a better cooperative working
    arrangement on the ground. Colonel Amadou Gueye, in charge
    of military cooperation at the MOD, said that a mixed
    committee for joint military cooperation has been set up, and
    the fourth meeting is scheduled for December 15 in Tessalit,
    Mali. It is to be attended by an Algerian General. ATT said
    he is planning a trip to Algiers to ask Bouteflika for air
    support, shortly after the Tessalit meeting.

    ATT THOUGHTS ON ALGERIA

    ¶11. (S) ATT then asked the Ambassador and General Ward if
    he could speak to them privately. In that meeting, he
    mentioned that he had gone to see Libyan leader Muammar
    al-Qadhafi and, contrary to the view of some, he is the most
    interested of all in a head of state summit in Bamako. ATT
    said that, after Tabaski (November 28), he will be going to
    see President Bouteflika and sending Malian Foreign Minister

    BAMAKO 00000776 003 OF 003

    Moctar Ouane to the other countries to find a date for the
    summit.

    ¶12. (S) ATT said he believes Bouteflika and the Algerian
    leadership genuinely want to cooperate, although they have
    real doubts about Mali's resolve. His visit is intended
    inter alia to dispel these doubts. ATT said he thinks
    Algeria's intelligence services and army are holding up
    cooperation, and believes the Algerian army is infiltrated
    with Salafists. He is nevertheless pleased with the improved
    cooperation with Algeria, and said a lot is riding on
    concrete outcomes of the December 15 meeting in Tessalit. He
    wants the heads of state summit to take place first, and then
    to be prepared to start operations within a week or so. This
    implies that the cooperation already has to be working, in
    advance of the summit.

    XXXXXXXXXXXX

    XXXXXXXXXXXX

    ¶15. (S) General Ward said the United States will continue
    to support Mali's efforts with training and equipment. He
    pledged to follow up with the Algerians, telling them how
    important the next delegation meeting is, and conveying ATT's
    commitment.

    ¶16. (U) General Ward cleared this message.

    MILOVANOVIC

    MILOVANOVIC

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