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### Viewing cable 06MADRID621, AMBASSADOR SHIRIN TAHIR-KHELI'S VISIT TO SPAIN

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06MADRID621 | 2006-03-14 09:09 | 2011-02-02 21:09 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Madrid

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    INFO RUCNMEM/EU MEMBER STATES COLLECTIVE
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    C O N F I D E N T I A L MADRID 000621

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    DEPARTMENT FOR SECRETARY RICE AND UNDER SECRETARY FOR
    POLITICAL AFFAIRS R. NICHOLAS BURNS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/13/2016
    TAGS: PREL KUNR UN SP
    SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR SHIRIN TAHIR-KHELI'S VISIT TO SPAIN

    Classified By: Political Counselor Kathleen Fitzpatrick for reasons 1.4
    (b) and (d).

    ¶1. (C) Summary. During her two-day visit to Madrid,
    Ambassador Shirin Tahir-Kheli, Senior Advisor to the
    Secretary on UN Reform, met with Spanish National Security

    SIPDIS
    Advisor Carles Casajuana, MFA Director General for
    International Organizations Arturo Laclaustra, and MFA
    Director General for Foreign Policy Rafael Dezcallar. She
    also had a successful press roundtable and two think tank
    events. GOS interlocutors said they agreed in principle with
    the USG's demanded changes to the Human Rights Council (HRC)
    draft, but did not think they were achievable, given the
    number of countries that would propose amendments to water
    down the text should it be reopened for negotiation. The
    Spanish said the EU sees US participation in the Council as
    crucial, and is looking for ways to bring the US on board,
    including a declaration saying that no EU country would ever
    vote for a country under UN sanctions in an election to the
    new HRC.

    ¶2. (C) The Spanish expressed appreciation for US leadership
    on management reform, where Spanish and US priorities are in
    sync. In answer to a question, Ambassador Tahir-Kheli
    explained the US position that Security Council reform is not
    a US priority, and that she hoped the rest of the reform
    agenda could be negotiated before the difficult negotiations
    on the UNSC are undertaken. While the Spanish confirmed their
    intention to vote for Guatemala in elections to the UN
    Security Council, they still indicated that they will not
    promote the Guatemalan candidacy over that of Venezuela. End
    Summary.

    -------------
    NSA Casajuana
    -------------

    ¶3. (U) Ambassador Tahir-Kheli laid out the US approach to
    United Nations reform, explaining the long and deep
    involvement the USG has had in the process, beginning in
    November of 2004. She put forward US hopes for mandate review
    and elimination of outdated mandates, and for management
    accountability, transparency and oversight. She also
    explained the importance to the US of having a credible Human
    Rights Council to replace the discredited Commission. She
    said the US required two changes to the current draft
    resolution for the HRC which would give the Council the
    membership credibility necessary for the US to vote for it: a
    2/3 election threshold and a membership exclusion for
    countries under UN sanctions for Human Rights or terrorism
    abuses.

    ¶4. (U) Casajuana said that Spain appreciates US activism in
    the UN reform process, particularly on management issues. He
    said Spain also hopes that the mandate review will lead to
    the elimination of unnecessary mandates and shifting of funds
    to more worthwhile causes, but he said he expected that
    national pride would play a role in keeping alive some
    mandates whose usefulness might be questionable.

    ¶5. (C) He said he thought US objections to the Human Rights
    Council draft resolution were entirely reasonable, and if it
    were possible to amend the text without other countries
    coming in with their own amendments, it would be ideal. As
    things stand, though, he said, this will not be feasible. He
    asked that the US reconsider its position on the HRC, saying
    that Spain and the EU would like to help the US overcome its
    objections to the text as it stands. It would be unthinkable
    to have a Council without US participation, he said, but
    opening the text to amendment now would likely result in
    something even weaker than the discredited Commission.

    ¶6. (C) Ambassador Tahir-Kheli stressed that the US was not
    asking for a line-by-line revision of the draft text, simply
    that the two conditions laid out be taken on board. The
    rationale behind the U.S. request for change was that
    exclusion of known human rights violators was indeed needed
    for more credible membership and better functioning of the
    premier UN human rights body.

    ----------------------
    DG Laclaustra and Team
    ----------------------

    ¶7. (U) MFA Director General for International Organizations
    Arturo Laclaustra began by introducing his Deputy for Human

    Rights, Fernando Fernandez-Arias, who had just returned from
    an EU meeting in Brussels to discuss the Human Rights Council
    draft. Fernandez-Arias reiterated the Spanish position that
    the HRC draft resolution was the best that member states
    could hope for and that opening the text for revision could
    result in a weaker Council. Nonetheless, he said, the EU
    member states felt it essential that the US be part of the
    Council from the beginning, and they were looking for ways to
    bring the US on board.

    ¶8. (U) Fernandez-Arias said he and his EU colleagues had come
    up with a proposed declaration, to be signed by all EU member
    states and to be valid in perpetuity, stating that none of
    the signatories would vote for a country under UN sanctions
    for a HRC seat. Ambassador Tahir-Kheli explained the
    importance the US places in the two proposed changes to the
    text and emphasized that the USG was not asking for a
    line-by-line revision of the draft text. Nonetheless, she
    said she would convey this idea to colleagues in Washington,
    asking if this idea had been publicized by the EU yet. She
    expressed hope the Spanish and the EU would find a way to
    address US concerns.

    ¶9. (U) On the UN Democracy Fund, Laclaustra said his Ministry
    had asked for an appropriation for the Fund and expected to
    make a contribution by the summer.

    10, (C) The Spanish restated their desire that there be no
    new permanent seats on the UN Security Council. Ambassador
    Tahir-Kheli said that although UNSC reform is not the highest
    of US priorities, the US has for a number of years supported
    a seat for Japan, and has put forth the elegant formula of
    "two or so" addition permanent members. The important element
    for the US, she said, was that the Security Council not grow
    so large as to be ineffective.

    ¶11. (C) Laclaustra asked if the Ambassador had any thoughts
    on the election of the next UN Secretary General (SYG).
    Ambassador Tahir-Kheli said that the US had put forward
    criteria which a successful candidate should meet. She said
    the US was not tied to the regional formula, which would
    mandate an Asian SYG this time. She told Laclaustra that the
    US has no favorite candidate yet.

    ¶12. (U) PolCouns also asked the Spanish about their intention
    to vote for Guatemala over Venezuela in the upcoming UNSC
    elections. She asked if they planned to do outreach to rally
    votes for Guatemala, particularly in their region of
    influence, Latin America. Laclaustra said that Guatemala had
    not asked for assistance from Spain, and that in any event,
    the Spanish had no desire to be seen as favoring one
    Ibero-American ally over another. While their vote will be
    for Guatemala, they have no intention of campaigning for the
    Guatemalans.

    ¶13. (U) Rafael Dezcallar's chief of staff Felix Costales also
    attended the meeting, where he mentioned the Alliance of
    Civilizations initiative, thanked the Ambassador for US
    support as expressed in Secretary Rice's letter to Foreign
    Minister Moratinos, and stressed how important Spain feels
    the Alliance is, particularly in light of the recent cartoon
    controversy. He mentioned that during the latest High Level
    Group meeting in Doha, all of the priorities for the region
    the Secretary mentioned in her letter were discussed, and
    several project possibilities came up. He said he felt
    certain that the High Level Group's recommendations, when
    they are released later this year, will include some concrete
    projects the US will be able to contribute to.

    ---------
    Dezcallar
    ---------

    ¶14. (C) Beginning with the topic of the hour, Ambassador
    Tahir-Kheli opened her discussion with MFA Director General
    for Political Affairs Rafael Dezcallar by reiterating the US
    objections to the HRC draft text, and explaining that the US
    was working hard to find a way forward. Dezcallar echoed his
    GOS colleagues by saying that Spain sees US participation in
    the Council as critical. He reminded the Ambassador that
    several years ago, when Spain was running for a Human Rights
    Commission seat (and Dezcallar was DG for International
    Organizations), the Spanish withdrew from the election when
    it looked like the US would lose its seat. Spain has always
    viewed American involvement in the Commission as important,
    and believes the US needs to be part of the new Council from
    the beginning.

    ¶15. (C) Nonetheless, he said he had just returned from
    Pakistan, where the Pakistanis said they would propose
    numerous amendments to the draft text should it be reopened.
    Cuba and others certainly would take advantage of the
    opportunity to water down the resolution, if given the
    chance, he added. He said he hoped the US would consider
    alternative ways of ensuring appropriate membership in the
    Council and avoid trying to change the text.

    ¶16. (C) Ambassador Tahir-Kheli explained that Secretary Rice
    had conveyed her view that the credibility of the new Human
    Rights Council would be reflected in its membership. There
    need to be certain thresholds for improved membership, she
    said, and they need to be in the resolution text, to ensure
    the integrity of the Council.
    Dezcallar said he understood the US point of view, but hoped
    we could work to find a solution outside the text.

    ¶17. (C) Dezcallar mentioned the Comprehensive Convention on
    International Terrorism (CCIT), saying that he and Minister
    Moratinos had discussed the issue with the Pakistanis the day
    before. He said he believed the Pakistanis could be a
    moderating force on the countries of the Organization of the
    Islamic Conference, and said that the Spanish and Pakistani
    Ambassadors in New York were going to be in contact about the
    CCIT. He added that it would be good if Ambassador Bolton
    could work with the Pakistani Ambassador as well. Ambassador
    Tahir-Kheli said she would pass the message

    ¶18. (C) At the request of Embassy Madrid, and since Dezcallar
    had just returned from Pakistan, where he had been with
    Foreign Minister Moratinos, the Ambassador took the
    opportunity to mention Moratinos's stopover in Damascus,
    where he met with the Syrian Foreign Minister at the airport.
    Ambassador Tahir-Kheli said that though she was not a Middle
    East expert, she was somewhat puzzled by the stop, given the
    amount of trouble Syria seems to be causing in various
    places, and wondered why it had happened. PolCouns added that
    the US, EU and UN all have a common policy on Syria, and that
    the US is very concerned that this united front be
    maintained.

    ¶19. (C) Dezcallar said that Spain was very worried about
    Syria as well, but felt that "certain things can be done with
    Syria." He said that Minster Moratinos was convinced that
    severing contact with the Syrians will cause them to
    radicalize and will drive them into the hands of Iran. He
    added that Moratinos, because of his close ties to the Syrian
    Foreign Minister and the important links between the Spanish
    royal family and the Assad family, has more room for maneuver
    than many Western leaders. The Ambassador and PolCouns both
    reiterated the need to respect the common US/UN/EU policy.
    AGUIRRE

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