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### Viewing cable 06THEHAGUE1739, NETHERLANDS/JSF/C-17/LEBANON/AFGHANISTAN: MEETING

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06THEHAGUE1739 | 2006-08-09 14:02 | 2011-01-17 00:12 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy The Hague

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L THE HAGUE 001739

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    SIPDIS

    STATE FOR EUR/RPM, EUR/UBI

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/09/2016
    TAGS: MARR PGOV PREL NL LE AF
    SUBJECT: NETHERLANDS/JSF/C-17/LEBANON/AFGHANISTAN: MEETING
    WITH DEFENSE MINSTER KAMP

    ...

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    E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/09/2016
    TAGS: MARR PGOV PREL NL LE AF
    SUBJECT: NETHERLANDS/JSF/C-17/LEBANON/AFGHANISTAN: MEETING
    WITH DEFENSE MINSTER KAMP
    REF: KABUL 3440

    Classified By: Ambassador Roland Arnall, reasons 1.4 (b,d)
    ¶1. (C) Summary: Defense Minister Henk Kamp said the GONL is
    committed to the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program, and
    hopes to sign the follow-on MOU prior to the parliamentary
    elections on November 22. He said the GONL remains
    interested in the NATO C-17 consortium, and is actively
    reviewing funding options. Kamp reiterated that Dutch forces
    were currently spread too thin to make a significant
    operational contribution to an International Force (IF) in
    Lebanon, but did not rule out the possibility of a naval
    contribution at some point provided there was a ""serious""
    need. The GONL continues to appreciate USG support to the
    Dutch ISAF III deployment in Afghanistan. With the exception
    of a few difficulties -- now resolved -- Kamp claimed that
    the Dutch deployment is ""on track."" He discussed these
    issues with Ambassador Arnall on August 9. End summary.

    JSF: Committed
    --------------

    ¶2. (C) Kamp said that the GONL remains seriously committed to
    JSF -- not only is the program the best available, but it is
    also important for the U.S-Dutch relationship. He said the
    GONL intends to sign the follow-on MOU, and would make a
    decision regarding the timing of the signature in the near
    future. He hoped to sign the follow-on MOU prior to the
    parliamentary elections on November 22. However, Kamp was
    not concerned if signature slipped until after the elections.
    He explained that the main opposition Labor Party (PvdA) was
    in government during the program's initiation, and had
    supported JSF. If Labor was a part of the next government
    coalition -- as current polls suggest -- Kamp believed
    chances were good they would support continuing the program,
    despite current political posturing to the contrary.

    ¶3. (C) In a separate conversation, MOD State Secretary Cees
    van der Knaap told Ambassador Arnall August 9 that the GONL
    still intends to sign the follow-on MOU prior to the
    parliamentary elections. Amb. Arnall informed van der Knaap
    of our intentions to meet with Dutch Parliamentary Defense
    Committee members prior to their trip to Washington and Ft.
    Worth to discuss JSF. Van der Knaap welcomed such
    discussion, but requested that the USG think and act
    ""carefully"" given the political sensitivities.

    C-17 Consortium: Continued Interest
    -----------------------------------

    ¶4. (C) Kamp confirmed that the Dutch remain very interested
    in participating in the NATO C-17 consortium. He explained
    that the financial aspects of Dutch participation have not
    yet been resolved, as the GONL is trying to determine whether
    the program should be funded by the MFA -- as a strategic
    airlift initiative -- or MOD -- as a defense acquisition. He
    added that the MFA and MOD are actively discussing the matter
    with the intention of requesting additional funding from
    Dutch Finance Minister Zalm in the coming weeks in order to
    participate in the consortium.

    Lebanon: Dutch Stretched Thin; ""Serious"" Naval Ops Possible
    --------------------------------------------- --------------

    ¶5. (C) Amb. Arnall noted the GONL's position -- stated
    publicly by Kamp and Foreign Minister Bot -- that the Dutch
    were ""stretched too thin"" to be able to contribute to the
    International Force (IF) in Lebanon. Kamp confirmed that was
    the case, noting that the GONL would like to get involved and
    that he personally was a strong advocate of Israel. However,
    he explained that the Dutch want to ""do current missions one
    hundred percent"" -- contributing to the IF would detract from
    this goal.

    ¶6. (C) Amb. Arnall asked if the Dutch in the future might
    consider a naval contribution to the IF. Kamp replied that
    the Dutch might be interested, as the Dutch navy is ""very
    capable."" But the mission would need to be a ""serious task""
    to warrant consideration, he added. He mentioned Dutch
    support to UNMIL off the coast of Liberia in late 2003, in
    which Dutch personnel were not seriously engaged for three
    months -- this was ""not good for Dutch personnel,"" Kamp said.

    Afghanistan: On Track
    ---------------------

    ¶7. (C) Amb. Arnall expressed his condolences to Kamp for the
    recent loss of two Dutch soldiers in a helicopter crash in
    eastern Afghanistan, and noted continued USG appreciation for
    the Dutch commitment to the ISAF III mission in Uruzgan. He
    commended Kamp on the Dutch MOD's public relations campaign
    to promote the mission and build public support.

    ¶8. (C) Kamp thanked the USG for its support in Uruzgan,
    especially regarding the use of U.S. medevac and Apache
    helicopters, and C-17 airlift support. He praised previous
    and continued efforts in Uruzgan, and noted that he was
    making efforts to explain to the Dutch public that the USG
    ""did a lot of good"" in Uruzgan -- the GONL hopes to build
    upon the solid foundation initiated by the USG. He also
    appreciated the continued U.S. presence in the PRT in Tarin
    Kowt, which is helping bolster coordination among NATO
    allies. That said, Kamp noted there were a few
    ""difficulties"" (reftel) in the transition from the US- to
    Dutch-led PRT in Tarin Kowt, especially regarding
    communication on what the USG intended to take and leave
    behind in the PRT. Kamp said these ""difficulties"" were now
    resolved.
    ARNALL

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