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### Viewing cable 07BOGOTA8384, PRESIDENT URIBE SPEAKS TO REID DELEGATION ON TPA,

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07BOGOTA8384 | 2007-12-06 20:08 | 2010-12-10 21:09 | UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY | Embassy Bogota

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    RUEHQT/AMEMBASSY QUITO PRIORITY 6373
    RHEHNSC/NSC WASHDC PRIORITY
    RUEHC/DEPT OF LABOR WASHDC PRIORITY
    RUEAWJC/DEPT OF JUSTICE WASHDC PRIORITY
    RUEAIIA/CIA WASHDC PRIORITY

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    UNCLAS BOGOTA 008384

    SIPDIS

    SENSITIVE
    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: N/A
    TAGS: PREL PREF PTER PHUM PGOV KJUS VE CO
    SUBJECT: PRESIDENT URIBE SPEAKS TO REID DELEGATION ON TPA,
    LABOR, AND CHAVEZ

    REF: BOGOTA 008224

    -------
    SUMMARY
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    ¶1. (SBU) During a November 28 meeting with the U.S.
    Congressional Delegation led by Senate Majority Leader Harry
    Reid, President Alvaro Uribe outlined Plan Colombia's
    accomplishments and stressed the importance of continued U.S.
    support. Uribe said passage of the U.S.- Colombia Trade
    Promotion Agreement (TPA) would attract vital investment to
    Colombia and show U.S. political support for its best ally in
    the region. Uribe said his recent dispute with Venezuelan
    President Hugo Chavez occurred because Chavez violated
    Colombia's institutional hierarchy by directly contacting
    Colombian Army Commander Mario Montoya. Uribe claimed that
    Chavez had expansionist plans for his model of "new
    socialism," and likened the threat Chavez poses to Latin
    America to that posed by Hitler in Europe. END SUMMARY.

    ¶2. (U) Participants:

    UNITED STATES

    Ambassador William R. Brownfield
    Senator Harry Reid, Majority Leader, D-NV
    Senator Thad Cochran, R-MS
    Senator Jeff Bingaman, D-NM
    Senator Byron Dorgan, D-ND
    Senator Mike Crapo, R-ID
    Senator Robert Menendez, D-NJ
    Senator Kent Conrad, D-ND
    Mike Castellano
    Anna Gallagher
    Marcel Lettre
    Federico De Jesus
    Serena Hoy
    Col. Mike Barbero
    Deputy Political Counselor, Julie Chung
    Adam Lenert, POL (note-taker)

    COLOMBIA

    President Alvaro Uribe
    Vice Minister of Foreign Relations, Adriana Mejia
    Vice Minister of Defense, Juan Carlos Pinzon
    Minister of Trade, Luis Guillermo Plata
    Ambassador to the U.S., Carolina Barco
    Director of National Planning, Carolina Renteria
    Vice Minister of Labor, Andres Palacios
    High Commissioner for Reintegration, Frank Pearl
    High Commissioner for Accion Social, Luis Alfonso Hoyos
    Ministry of Foreign Affairs North Americas Desk, Patricia
    Cortes

    -------------------------------------
    CONTINUED PLAN COLOMBIA SUPPORT VITAL
    -------------------------------------

    ¶3. (SBU) Asked by Senator Menendez if the time had arrived to
    shift U.S. assistance from traditional Plan Colombia programs
    towards alternative development and justice-sector projects,
    Uribe said that Colombia had done much under Plan Colombia,
    but more remains to accomplish. The GOC controlled only fifty
    percent of its territory in 2000, but now maintains a
    presence in every municipality. Spraying and manual
    eradication programs supported by the U.S. would destroy over
    200,000 hectares of coca in 2007. Uribe said to maintain
    security and continue the fight against narco-trafficking,
    the U.S. must continue its vital support.

    --------------------------------------------- -------
    GOC INVESTING IN JUSTICE AND ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT
    --------------------------------------------- -------

    ¶4. (U) Uribe said his government had committed to justice
    programs and alternative development. He explained how the
    GOC had passed important judicial reforms and almost doubled

    the budget for the justice system over the past four years.
    He noted that Colombia began producing biofuel, and expanded
    coffee production by over one million bags over the last five
    years. Uribe reminded the Senators of the difficulty of
    alternative development in a country with over 50 percent
    jungle terrain (578,000 square kilometers). He explained that
    the GOC's Forest Families program works to secure the jungle
    by employing rural families to patrol and report illicit
    activity.

    -------------------------------
    EXTRADITIONS ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE
    -------------------------------

    ¶5. (SBU) Uribe explained that after he met with families of
    hostages held by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia
    (FARC) and spoke with French officials about the release of
    French-Colombian hostage Ingrid Betancourt, he dropped his
    original position that he would not discuss a humanitarian
    exchange with the FARC unless it coincided with a broader
    peace process. Despite pressure from Chavez and others, he
    had insisted that any humanitarian exchange include the three
    American hostages. In contrast, the GOC would not support the
    inclusion of extradited FARC members in the U.S. He
    explained that Colombia had extradited over 650 criminals to
    the U.S. to date, a level of cooperation with U.S. justice
    unprecedented anywhere else in the world. "For us,
    extradition is a policy that is non-negotiable," he stated.

    ---------------------------------------
    TPA WILL BRING INVESTMENT, SHOW SUPPORT
    ---------------------------------------

    ¶6. (SBU) Senator Crapo asked for Uribe's views on the TPA and
    labor unionists' concerns. The President said the TPA was
    economically important for his country, because it would help
    Colombia attract foreign investment. He said the TPA would
    probably not have a large immediate impact in increasing
    Colombian exports to the U.S., but with increased foreign
    investment, their export sectors could develop to be more
    competitive in U.S. markets. Uribe said the TPA was also
    important for political reasons, since it would show U.S.
    support for its best ally in the region. "I don't know how I
    could explain to my nation and the international community
    why the best friend of the U.S. was not granted a TPA," he
    said.

    ¶7. (SBU) Uribe said his government had made great efforts at
    improving the situation of labor unionists. In the past, 256
    unionists were killed in a single year. In 2007, 30
    unionists had been killed to date, and investigations and
    prosecutions were underway. Since 2002, the Prosecutor
    General's Office has prosecuted 56 cases of labor violence,
    sending 118 people to prison. In the majority of cases,
    Uribe said, the killer was not linked to the unionists'
    employers, but rather to terrorist groups that suspected the
    union members were helping rival gangs. The GOC has
    protected over 6,000 people in 2007, at a cost of nearly USD
    40 million, including over 1200 unionists. Uribe said there

    were many private sector unions that disagreed with the large
    labor confederations' criticism of the TPA. He held regular
    lunches with the large labor confederations to discuss labor
    issues, but noted that they would never accept the TPA due to
    their ideological opposition to free trade and the United
    States.

    ------------------------------------
    URIBE: CHAVEZ POSES THREAT TO REGION
    ------------------------------------

    ¶8. (SBU) Asked by Senator Conrad to comment on President
    Chavez, Uribe said he prefers to be prudent in statements
    about the leader of this significant trading partner. He had
    authorized opposition Senator Piedad Cordoba and Chavez to
    facilitate talks with the FARC on a humanitarian accord after
    the families of the hostages implored him to do so. He
    recognized this was taking a great political risk, but saw
    Chavez as perhaps the only person respected enough by the
    FARC's leaders to reach an agreement to release the hostages.

    ¶9. (SBU) Uribe then reviewed the events that led him to
    suspend Cordoba's and Chavez' roles as facilitators. He said
    that in an October 12 meeting, Chavez told him that he wanted
    to meet with FARC leader Marulanda in Colombia. Uribe told
    him this could only be done if the FARC released an initial
    group of hostages, with a commitment to release the rest
    later. The meeting would also have to be conducted at a
    specific demilitarized point, not a general zone as proposed
    by Chavez. To Uribe's surprise, Chavez publicly announced
    in Paris that Uribe had given him approval to meet with
    Marulanda in Colombia without mentioning any of the
    conditions set in their prior meeting. Uribe saw this as a
    violation of trust which put in question Chavez' reliability
    as a facilitator.

    ¶10. (SBU) Uribe said the final factor that caused him to
    terminate Chavez' mandate as a negotiator was Chavez' call to
    Colombian Army Commander Montoya, despite Uribe's earlier
    specific instructions not to contact his military officials.
    Uribe stressed several times that this was "a violation of
    our institutional hierarchy," explaining he had a duty to
    defend democratic values. Uribe said Chavez was trying to
    create a "personal empire," and had expansionist plans in the
    region for his model of "new socialism." Chavez' model
    violated democratic values such as freedom of the press,
    local elections, and independence of the Central Bank. He
    likened the threat Chavez poses to Latin America to that
    posed by Hitler in Europe.

    -----------------------------------------
    URIBE SEEKS SUPPORT FROM OTHER PRESIDENTS
    -----------------------------------------

    ¶11. (SBU) Uribe mentioned he would see Chavez in Ecuador on
    November 29 at President Rafael Correa's inauguration
    ceremony of the new constitutional assembly. He said it
    would be a difficult trip, but a necessary one and he would
    not leave the stage exclusively to Chavez. In recent weeks,
    Uribe saw positive movements by Correa away from Chavez-type
    radicalism, and he was not sure which way the Ecuadorian
    leader would lean. Uribe said he also called several other
    Latin American presidents to seek their support. Uribe said:
    "I do not want to leave political space for Chavez alone."

    ¶12. (U) This cable has been cleared by Senator Reid.

    Nichols

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