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### Viewing cable 09MADRID113, CHARGE'S JANUARY 29, 2008, LUNCH WITH SPANISH MOD

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09MADRID113 | 2009-02-02 17:05 | 2010-12-27 12:12 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Madrid

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 MADRID 000113

    SIPDIS

    FOR EUR/WE

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/02/2019
    TAGS: PREL MARR AF SP
    SUBJECT: CHARGE'S JANUARY 29, 2008, LUNCH WITH SPANISH MOD
    SECRETARY GENERAL FOR POLICY

    REF: A. 08 MADRID 1281
    ¶B. BARCELONA 9
    ¶C. 08 MADRID 1280

    MADRID 00000113 001.2 OF 002

    Classified By: Charge d'Affaires Arnold A. Chacon, Reasons 1.4(b),(d).

    ¶1. (C) Summary: During a January 29 lunch, the CDA and
    Spanish MOD Secretary General for Policy Luis Cuesta
    discussed a possible MOD visit to Washington in June,
    Afghanistan, the bilateral Agreement on Defense Cooperation,
    an incident during a port call in Barcelona, Gaza arms
    smuggling, and so-called Guantanamo flights. End summary.

    MOD Visit to U.S.
    -----------------

    ¶2. (C) Cuesta said MOD Carme Chacon hoped to visit Washington
    at the beginning of June (preferably traveling June 1 and
    meeting June 2 or 3) for a meeting with SECDEF. Cuesta noted
    Spain's interest in perhaps scheduling the next bilateral
    High-Level Defense Committee meeting in the U.S. in
    conjunction with that visit. (Note: This annual HLDC
    meeting alternates between the U.S. and Spain. It was held
    in the U.S. in 2008. End note). He mentioned Chacon might
    also travel to Pensacola, Florida after visiting Washington
    to join celebrations of the 450th anniversary of that city's
    founding by the Spanish.

    Afghanistan
    -----------

    ¶3. (C) On Afghanistan, Cuesta alluded to recent press
    articles which suggested the U.S. was increasingly concerned
    about Afghan Government corruption and ineffectiveness and
    skeptical of President Karzai. Cuesta suggested this
    mirrored Spanish thinking. The CDA pressed Cuesta on what
    Spain might be planning to contribute in support of the
    Afghan elections and an increased long-term Spanish
    commitment to the larger allied effort. Cuesta made clear
    that the question of additional Spanish resources was one
    that would be decided personally by President Zapatero.
    Cuesta said a definitive Spanish position was unlikely to be
    articulated before the NATO Foreign Ministers' meeting in
    February. He stressed the importance of a high-level U.S.
    approach to Spain, suggesting the meeting FM Moratinos was
    seeking with Secretary Clinton could be a key opportunity.
    On the elections, Cuesta said Spain was looking at a
    financial contribution but noted that with the elections
    still months away, no decision was imminent.

    Agreement on Defense Cooperation
    --------------------------------

    ¶4. (C) On the issue of Chacon's suggestion that the ADC be
    elevated to treaty status in the U.S. (ref a), Cuesta
    suggested Chacon had been cornered on the issue by the press.
    He said Spain appreciated the difficulties of presenting the
    ADC to the U.S. Senate for approval, and looked forward to
    receiving the definitive USG position on the matter. Without
    providing a comprehensive list, Cuesta repeated what he has
    told us before: Spain will be looking merely for
    "improvements" to the ADC. The examples he cited seem to
    concern issues arising from Spanish military presence in the
    U.S. (drivers' licenses, dependents' health care, etc.).

    Incident During Port Call in Barcelona
    --------------------------------------

    ¶5. (C) During a January 22 port call in Barcelona, a
    civilian crewmember of the USS Mount Whitney was accosted by
    plain-clothes municipal police who did not adequately
    identify themselves and who pointed a gun at his shipmates
    (ref b). During his arrest, the crewmember was knocked to
    the ground and later received several stitches to his head.
    That same evening he was released without being charged.
    There were suggestions the incident might have been racially
    motivated (the crewmember was African-American). The CDA
    underscored the seriousness of this incident and its
    potential negative impact, if the GOS did not take
    appropriate action. shared with Cuesta a note verbal sent to
    the MFA January 28 requesting an explanation of the incident.
    Cuesta expressed shock and promised to do what he could do
    see that the incident was properly investigated.

    MADRID 00000113 002.2 OF 002

    Gaza Arms Smuggling
    -------------------

    ¶6. (C) Cuesta said Spain understood the importance of
    stopping arms smuggling into Gaza and appreciated why this
    was part of the Israeli bottom-line, but he doubted Spain
    would be in a position to contribute military forces to the
    effort. Nevertheless, he said Spain did want to be involved
    in discussions of the issue. (Note: the Spanish MFA
    Political Director told the CDA January 23 that Spain would
    attend the February 4-5 workshop in Denmark. End note.)

    Guantanamo Flights
    ------------------

    ¶7. (C) On the long-running saga of alleged U.S. flights
    passing through Spain carrying detainees to Guantanamo (ref
    c), Cuesta said the judge hearing a related case in the
    Spanish National Court was a "good man and serious
    professional." Cuesta said the GOS regarded the issue as a
    sideshow and hoped that with the news that the new U.S.
    Administration planned to close the detention facility, the
    story would eventually die away. In any case, the GOS would
    stick to its position that the U.S. had not broken any laws
    in Spain and had complied with relevant bilateral agreements.

    Comment
    -------

    ¶8. (C) Cuesta's assertion that any additional Spanish effort
    in Afghanistan will be personally approved by Zapatero is
    doubtless correct (the matter is too controversial
    domestically for anyone else to take responsibility). Senior
    GOS officials have repeatedly said Afghanistan requires a new
    strategy. It will be important to them to be able to say to
    their voters that the GOS has been consulted and its views
    have been heard. Having a senior USG official reach out to
    them on Afghanistan is important. In the meantime, engaging
    the Spanish Ambassador in Washington would be useful. He is
    well-connected here. On the ADC, this is not the first time
    Cuesta has seemed to downplay the MOD's suggestion that the
    U.S. should elevate the agreement to the status of a
    Senate-approved treaty. Although he described her comments
    as resulting from a press encounter gone wrong, in fact she
    repeated her statements to congress and in private with
    Ambassador Aguirre, who undertook to provide her with a
    definitive USG reaction.
    CHACON

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