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### Viewing cable 09MOSCOW2754, INFORMATION ON SECURITY DIALOGUE WITH RUSSIA

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09MOSCOW2754 | 2009-11-09 15:03 | 2010-12-01 21:09 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Moscow

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 MOSCOW 002754

    SIPDIS

    DEPARTMENT FOR PM, EUR

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/09/2019
    TAGS: PGOV PREL MARR
    SUBJECT: INFORMATION ON SECURITY DIALOGUE WITH RUSSIA

    REF: STATE 112900

    Classified By: Political M/C Susan M. Elliott for reasons 1.4 (b) and (
    d).

    ¶1. (SBU) The USG and GOR have four existing, formal
    mechanisms for conducting security dialogues with the Russian
    Federation; all four are scheduled yearly.

    1) Joint Staff Talks (JSTs):  This event is hosted annually
    by U.S. Joint Staff J-5 or the GOR Chief of the Main OPS
    Directorate on a rotational basis.  The agenda is dynamic,
    but is typically focused on international military/security
    issues, mil-to-mil (M2M) cooperation, and transparency as
    nominated by the respective sides.

    2) Bilateral Defense Consultations (BDCs):  Hosted by ASD/ISA
    and the Director of International Relations, Russian MoD on a
    rotational basis.  Agenda is more policy and pol-mil
    oriented, but it is subject to items nominated by the
    respective sides.

    3) General Officer/Flag Officer Discussions (GO/FO):
    Alternatively hosted by EUCOM J5 and GOR MoD equivalent;
    agenda is more narrowly focused on AOR issues and developing
    direction for construction of the bilateral workplan (WP).

    4) US-GOR Colonels Working Group (CWG):  Objective is to
    discuss and nominate events for the following year's WP.  In
    practice, they meet more than once per year, alternating
    sites between Stuttgart and Moscow.

    ¶2. (SBU) In addition, as a result of the Presidential summit
    in Moscow in July, the Presidents directed their respective
    senior military officers to establish a military-to-military
    working group under the auspices of the Bilateral
    Presidential Commission.  The primary objective of this group
    will be to enhance military cooperation consistent with the
    Presidents' broader cooperative agenda.

    ¶3. (SBU) In practice, CJSC and CHOD will conduct 2-3 day
    counterpart visits every other year, with discussion agendas
    and visit venues to be determined by the respective sides.
    Ad hoc engagements vary, based upon interests of the
    respective sides.  In the past these have included:

    --STRATCOM-Strategic Rocket Forces;

    --U.S. Air Forces Europe-GOR Air Force;

    --NORTHCOM/NORAD-RF Air Force;

    -Incidents at sea/Main Navy Staff talks between U.S. and
    Russia;

    -GO/FO delegation exchanges between EUCOM Component Commands
    and elements of the Russian Armed Forces.

    ¶4. (SBU) We believe dialogue was first established by mutual
    consent in the late 1980s.  The frequency of these meetings
    has been determined by informal understanding.

    ¶5. (SBU) The most recent CJCS-CHOD security dialogue meeting
    came when the CJCS came to Moscow July 6-9.  No set schedule
    determines the frequency of such meetings, but the event is
    placed on the WP and dates are left to respective sides to
    negotiate.  The next scheduled meetings are:

    --JSTs:  December 14-18;

    --BDCs:  Although featured as an event on the 2009 WP, they
    will probably not be executed this year due to ongoing
    military reforms and personnel shifts within GOR MoD;

    --GO/FO Consultations:  TBD;

    --CWG: November 17-19;

    --INCSEA/Main Navy Staff Talks:  December 10-11 in Moscow.

    ¶6. (SBU) The USG and GOR expect officers to meet with their
    rank/position equivalents.

    ¶7. (C/NF) While useful and meaningful exchanges do take place
    during the contacts discussed above, a number of challenges

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    in effecting real, substantive and ongoing
    Military-to-Military (M2M) dialogues exist.  These challenges
    include:

    1) Lack of Russian transparency and reciprocity:  The GOR MoD
    has not changed its modus operandi for information exchange
    nor routine dialoguing since the end of the Cold War.  For
    example, Russian delegations routinely refuse to share their
    briefing materials with us, even when presented with formal
    requests for these materials.  Representatives of the GOR MoD
    are closely monitored by their Military Intelligence (GRU)
    handlers, and are loathe to engage in any dialogues outside
    of tightly controlled statements recited from prepared texts.
    While U.S. hosts will often invite Russian MoD delegations
    to different bases for tours and exchanges, U.S. delegations
    are rarely afforded visits anywhere but dedicated conference
    facilities at MoD HQ in Moscow.  Access to Russian academic
    institutions is particularly problematic.  Visiting U.S.
    delegations from Senior Service Schools are afforded, at
    best, a one-hour visit at MoD HQ to meet with a single
    representative of the GOR MoD External Liaison Division.
    Despite deliberate U.S. transparency regarding its actions in
    Russia's "near abroad," the Russian MoD is loathe to provide
    information about its activities.  A recent example occurred
    over the last six months:  while the US provided information
    to Russia concerning our limited training activities with the
    Georgian Armed Forces, Russia provided no information
    regarding a series of Collective Security Treaty Organization
    exercises occurring in Belarus and Kazakhstan involving some
    12,000 Russian troops.

    2) Coordinating DoD Relations with Russia:  Russia was
    integrated into the EUCOM AOR as a result of the publication
    of the 2002 Unified Command Plan (UCP).  Russia, however,
    resents the "delegation" of its relations to a "regional
    command" and refuses to interract with EUCOM on a continuing,
    formal basis.  DoD efforts to date have managed to gain some
    recognition by Russia of EUCOM's role in the M2M
    relationship.  For example, Russia has not accepted
    initiatives to conduct a COM EUCOM-CHOD exchange.  Efforts
    need to continue along these lines to formalize the
    relationship.

    3) Lack of Continuity/Followup:  While exchanges with the
    Russians have been executed according to the U.S.-Russia
    Bilateral Workplan (WP), they have suffered from a lack of
    continuity.  This is often characterized by a lack of
    formally acknowledged minute and action items.  In many ways,
    every meeting therefore is similar to a "restart" of a new
    forum, rather than a continuation of an extablished venue
    with review of previous business, followup actions, etc.
    Beyrle

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