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### Viewing cable 09USNATO501, DUTCH SAY U.S. AFGHANISTAN MESSAGE MUST BE A

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09USNATO501 | 2009-11-05 09:09 | 2011-01-20 08:08 | CONFIDENTIAL | Mission USNATO

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    VZCZCXRO9707
    PP RUEHDBU RUEHPW RUEHSL
    DE RUEHNO #0501/01 3090942
    ZNY CCCCC ZZH
    P 050942Z NOV 09
    FM USMISSION USNATO
    TO RUEKJCS/SECDEF WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 3563
    INFO RUCNAFG/AFGHANISTAN COLLECTIVE PRIORITY
    RUEHZG/NATO EU COLLECTIVE PRIORITY
    RUEHTC/AMEMBASSY THE HAGUE PRIORITY 1055
    RHEFDIA/DIA WASHDC PRIORITY
    RUEHNO/USDELMC BRUSSELS BE PRIORITY
    RHMFISS/HQ USCENTCOM MACDILL AFB FL PRIORITY
    RHMFISS/CDR USEUCOM VAIHINGEN GE PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/SECDEF WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/JOINT STAFF WASHDC PRIORITY
    RHMFISS/CDR USCENTCOM MACDILL AFB FL PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/CJCS WASHDC PRIORITY
    RHMFISS/USNMR SHAPE BE PRIORITY
    RUEAIIA/CIA WASHDC PRIORITY

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 USNATO 000501

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/4/2019
    TAGS: MARR MOPS NATO PGOV PREL AF
    SUBJECT: DUTCH SAY U.S. AFGHANISTAN MESSAGE MUST BE A
    STRONG ONE

    Classified By: Classified by Ambassador Ivo Daalder for Reasons 1.4(b)
    & (d)

    ¶1. (C) Summary. In a November 3 meeting, Dutch PM Cabinet
    Director Richard van Zwol told USNATO Ambassador Daalder the
    Dutch were in a political deadlock over their Afghanistan
    contributions and the Prime Minister was attempting to
    unlock it. He urged the US to deliver a strong message
    privately in the next few weeks to help the DUtch government
    in its efforts to revise its Afghanistan policy. Van Zwol
    reassured the Ambassador that media reporting on the November
    2 meeting between the German and Dutch FMs that suggested the
    two Allies were pursuing the issue of nuclear weapons
    forward-basing bilaterally were inaccurate. Van Zwel said
    Dutch FM Verhagen stressed with his German counterpart that
    the debate regarding nuclear weapons on European soil had to
    be conducted in the context of NATO. End Summary.

    ---------------------------------
    Staying the Course in Afghanistan
    ---------------------------------

    ¶2. (C) In a frank discussion about the Dutch contribution to
    the ISAF mission, the Ambassador explained to Van Zwol, Dutch
    PM Foreign Policy and Defense Asvisor Karel van Oosterom, and
    Dutch Deputy Permanent Representative to NATO Jan Versteeg
    that the United States had not made its final decision about
    resourcing issues in Afghanistan, but would stay the course
    until significant progress was achieved. The Ambassador
    noted that the United States wanted the Netherlands to remain
    as well and would convey strong message to Dutch leaders in
    that regard in the month ahead. It would be hard to explain
    a Dutch withdrawal just as the US and others were stepping up
    their contributions to the mission. Van Zwol said the Dutch
    were in a political deadlock and the Prime Minister was
    attempting to unlock it. He urged the US to deliver a
    strong message privately in the next few weeks; no other type
    of message would work. The US should emphasize in its
    discussions with Dutch leaders that the push now will be on
    progress in the next 12-18 months, with the view to
    transferring responsibility to the Afghans as soon as
    possible. In order to get a positive decision to stay, the
    Dutch Labor Party, which is the main stumbling block in the
    coalition government, would need to be able to point to a
    new situation to explain any change in policy. Greater
    emphasis on a transfer to Afghan lead and on moving from
    combat to training would help, as might the announcement of a
    new approach by the Obama administration.

    ¶3. (C) Van Zwol and Oosterom confirmed that the Dutch would
    not be a lead nation under any circumstances and warned it
    would be extremely difficult to remain in Uruzgan. The
    Ambassador said he was hopeful that the Dutch would keep
    their troop contributions in the four-digit range, leave
    their enablers, and send more trainers. Pulling out of
    Uruzgan, given the Dutch investment in the province and the
    ISAF focus on counter-insurgency, would be a waste of the
    collective wisdom and trust they had built there over th
    eyears. Van Zwol suggested it was best to focus first on a
    Dutch commitment to remain and then discuss where they might
    deploy.

    ¶4. (C) Van Zwol also advised that, when discussing
    Afghanistan with Dutch Finance Minister Bos, it would be
    useful for the United States to make the issue personal for
    him. Van Zwol said Bos would respond well to the idea that
    remaining in Afghanistan is an issue of leadership for a
    Deputy Prime Minister of a party with a proud history. Van
    Zwol also suggested that Bos has future ambitions, and the
    United States should point out that he should not lose
    international credibility by insisting on the Dutch
    withdrawal from Afghanistan at this critical moment.

    ------------------------
    NATO and Nuclear Weapons
    ------------------------

    USNATO 00000501 002 OF 002

    ¶5. (C) Ambassador Daalder used the meeting to ask for
    clarification on Dutch FM Verhagen's November 2 meeting with
    new German FM Westerwelle, and whether the Dutch were
    planning a unilateral, bilateral, or trilateral (with the
    Belgians) effort to remove US nuclear weapons from European
    soil. Van Zwol explained that, while a nuclear free world
    was a matter of personal interest to FM Verhagen, the Dutch
    would address the issue of forward-basing of US nuclear
    weapons in the multilateral context of NATO only. Noting
    that the Germans had opened Pandora's box on the issue of
    US nuclear weapons in Europe, Van Zwol assured the Ambassador
    there was no Dutch/Belgian/German cabal to deal with the
    issue. For the past several decades, NATO Allies had not
    discussed the issue so as not to rock the boat. The new
    German coalition agreement changed that, he said, by firmly
    and openly calling for frank discussions on NATO's nuclear
    weapons policy.
    DAALDER

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