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### Viewing cable 09THEHAGUE514, NETHERLANDS/AFGHANISTAN: POST-2010 DEPLOYMENT

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09THEHAGUE514 | 2009-08-25 14:02 | 2011-01-17 00:12 | SECRET//NOFORN | Embassy The Hague

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    OO RUEHWEB

    DE RUEHTC #0514/01 2371459
    ZNY SSSSS ZZH
    O 251459Z AUG 09
    FM AMEMBASSY THE HAGUE
    TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 3195
    INFO RUEHBY/AMEMBASSY CANBERRA PRIORITY 2831
    RUEHBUL/AMEMBASSY KABUL PRIORITY 0414
    RUEHOT/AMEMBASSY OTTAWA PRIORITY 5254
    RUEHNO/USMISSION USNATO PRIORITY 2236
    RUEAIIA/CIA WASHDC PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/CJCS WASHDC PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/DIA WASHDC PRIORITY
    RHEHNSC/NSC WASHDC PRIORITY
    RUEKJCS/SECDEF WASHINGTON DC PRIORITY
    RHMFISS/HQ USEUCOM VAIHINGEN GE PRIORITY
    RHMFISS/HQ USCENTCOM MACDILL AFB FL PRIORITY

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    S E C R E T THE HAGUE 000514

    NOFORN

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/25/2019
    TAGS: PGOV PREL AF NATO NL
    SUBJECT: NETHERLANDS/AFGHANISTAN: POST-2010 DEPLOYMENT
    POSSIBLE BUT NOT IN URUZGAN

    REF: A. THE HAGUE 0419
         ¶B. THE HAGUE 0092...

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    ","S E C R E T THE HAGUE 000514
    NOFORN
    SIPDIS
    E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/25/2019
    TAGS: PGOV PREL AF NATO NL
    SUBJECT: NETHERLANDS/AFGHANISTAN: POST-2010 DEPLOYMENT
    POSSIBLE BUT NOT IN URUZGAN
    REF: A. THE HAGUE 0419
    ¶B. THE HAGUE 0092
    Classified By: Ambassador Fay Hartog Levin for reasons 1.4 (B, D).
    ¶1. (C) This cable continues reporting on post's efforts to
    get the Dutch to ""yes"" on a post-2010 deployment in
    Afghanistan (reftels).
    ¶2. (S/NF) SUMMARY: Labor Party leader Bos told the Ambassador
    in confidence (STRICTLY PROTECT) the Dutch will likely stay
    in Afghanistan post-2010 but not in Uruzgan. The cabinet
    will probably not take that decision until the end of the
    year. Post recommends next steps in our engagement (para 7).
    END SUMMARY.
    ¶3. (S/NF) At the end of her August 24 courtesy call,
    Ambassador talked one-on-one with Wouter Bos, the Labor Party
    (PvdA) leader, Finance Minister and Deputy Prime Minister,
    about Afghanistan. (COMMENT: Senior Dutch officials had
    identified the Labor Party and Bos, in particular, as the
    most reluctant member of the three-party governing coalition
    to agree on staying in Afghanistan beyond the current 2010
    mandate. END COMMENT.) Bos told the Ambassador in
    confidence the issue of staying in Afghanistan was
    politically unpopular, especially within his own party. ""The
    Dutch have gone as far as they can go."" Two years ago, when
    the Dutch decided to extend the mission in Uruzgan, everyone
    agreed that would be the last time. If we now extend again,
    Bos said, we will be asked every two years to stay on. It is
    important to stick to our word and wrap up the mission.
    This, Bos argued, was the official Labor Party position.
    ¶4. (S/NF) Bos then said the Government, with Labor Party
    support, will be able to stay in Afghanistan after its
    current mandate expires, but not in Uruzgan. The Ambassador
    pressed Bos that it was more logical for the Dutch to remain
    in Uruzgan where they had developed important contacts with
    local tribes and leaders as well as funded numerous projects.
    Bos admitted this was true, but did not know if staying in
    Uruzgan would fly with his party.
    ¶5. (S/NF) The Ambassador mentioned the Embassy would be
    hosting a number of senior USG officials in the near future
    who would be willing to discuss Afghanistan with Bos (such as
    USNATO Amb. Daalder and CENTCOM Gen. Petreaus). He said
    Development Cooperation Minister Koenders was advising him on
    all issues involving Afghanistan, including how to handle it
    politically. If Bos is not available to meet with U.S.
    visitors, he will make sure Koenders is. He also advised the
    Ambassador the Cabinet would probably not make a final
    decision on the deployment question until the end of the
    year, December.
    ¶6. (S/NF) COMMENT: Queen Beatrix commented to the Ambassador
    during her credentialing ceremony on August 19 that finding a
    way forward on Afghanistan ""would be difficult,"" but must be
    done. It appears the senior leadership of the body politic
    agrees. We had heard from other Cabinet members, including
    Foreign Minister Verhagen, that Bos and the Labor Party would
    likely agree to extending the Dutch mission in Afghanistan
    past 2010. Bos's statement, however, was the first time any
    senior Labor Party leader had made that clear. Although
    appearing to draw a line in the sand about leaving Uruzgan,
    Qappearing
    to draw a line in the sand about leaving Uruzgan,
    Bos did not seem categorical about that issue. In our
    engagement, we need to continue to stress the Alliance need
    for the Dutch to remain in Afghanistan and in Uruzgan, in
    particular; the progress the Dutch have made in Uruzgan and
    the need to build upon their stability and development
    efforts there; the increased U.S. contribution in military
    and civilian personnel and resources in Afghanistan; and the
    enhanced contributions of NATO and other partners. A word of
    caution - the Dutch are concerned Jan Mohammed, the former
    governor and local warlord, might be re-appointed governor of
    Uruzgan if Pres. Karzai is re-elected. If that were to
    happen, everyone, including our strongest supporters, says
    the Dutch will not/not return to Uruzgan under any
    circumstances. END COMMENT.
    ¶7. (S/NF) ENGAGEMENT PLAN: (A) The Ambassador continues her
    courtesy calls, seeing Foreign Minister Verhagen and Defense
    Minister van Middelkoop August 31. She will raise
    Afghanistan and extending the Dutch mandate in both meetings.
    She will also meet with parliamentary leaders in the near
    future.
    (B) USNATO Amb. Daalder visits Sept. 3 and will have meetings
    with senior MoD and MFA officials. He will meet with
    Verhagen and we have requested a meeting with Minister
    Koenders. Amb. Daalder will also give a public address
    talking about NATO in Afghanistan and will conduct several
    press interviews.
    (C) Defense Minister van Middelkoop plans to meet with
    Secretary Gates in Washington September 10.
    (D) CENTCOM Gen. Petreaus will visit the Netherlands in
    support of the 65th anniversary of the WWII Market Garden
    operation (""A Bridge Too Far"") in mid-September. He will
    deliver three speeches throughout the country, which are
    expected to get significant media attention. We are working
    with his staff to identify opportunities for him to meet
    appropriate ministers and parliamentarians.
    (E) We recommend SRAP Amb. Holbrooke call Minister Koenders,
    whom he met in late March in The Hague, to thank him for the
    Dutch support of the Afghan elections (8 million Euros
    contribution to UNDP, long and short-term staffers to the EU
    election observers mission, 30 military personnel), to
    discuss the recent Friends of Pakistan conference in Istanbul
    (they pledged 86.7 million Euros in assistance over three
    years at the Tokyo conference) and to talk about regional
    developments. Amb. Holbrooke could offer to visit the
    Netherlands if Koenders thought it would be helpful.
    (F) Finally, we will re-examine our engagement plan at the
    end of September in light of Gen. McCrystal's strategic
    review and the results of these meetings.
    LEVIN

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