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### Viewing cable 07LONDON3175, IRAN: BROTHER OF IRGC'S SAFAVI SAYS A U.S. TERROR

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07LONDON3175 | 2007-08-17 08:08 | 2010-12-03 21:09 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy London
Appears in these articles: http://www.spiegel.de

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 LONDON 003175

    SIPDIS

    SIPDIS

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/16/2017
    TAGS: PTER KPRP PGOV PHUM PREL BA KU IR IS UK
    SUBJECT: IRAN: BROTHER OF IRGC'S SAFAVI SAYS A U.S. TERROR
    DESIGNATION OF IRGC WILL PRECLUDE IRAQ SECURITY COOPERATION

    Classified By: Political Minister Counselor Maura Connelly for reasons
    1.4 (B) and (D).

    ¶1. (C) Summary. xxxxxxxxxxxx Iran
    Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) xxxxxxxxxxxx told London Iran Watcher
    xxxxxxxxxxxx
    that Iran's cooperation on security in Iraq, though not yet
    evident, would be forthcoming, but in the same breath argued
    that a U.S. terrorist designation of the IRGC would prevent
    any such cooperation. xxxxxxxxxxxx for the USG to hold its
    hand on designation came xxxxxxxxxxxx engaged with the invited group at length
    on Tehran's view of U.S.-Iran relations, Iraqi security, and
    the nuclear issue. xxxxxxxxxxxx candid remarks, which included
    extremely vigorous exchanges with xxxxxxxxxxxx alternated between aggressive
    characterizations of Iran's relations in the Persian Gulf,
    admissions of the IRGC's presence and role in Iraq and
    Afghanistan, and apparently earnest statements of Iran's
    desire for cooperation with the United States. xxxxxxxxxxxx
    appeared to pay close attention to xxxxxxxxxxxx message on need
    for Iran's behavior in Iraq to match its stated support for
    Iraqi stability and for Iran to weigh the benefits of the
    E3 3 incentives package and "suspension for suspension" offer
    which remains on the table. End Summary.

    xxxxxxxxxxxx Private Plea on IRGC Designation
    ------------------------------------------
    ¶2. (C) xxxxxxxxxxxx made his private plea on not designating the
    IRGC under U.S. law after a three-hour long larger group
    discussion during which xxxxxxxxxxxx had stressed that attacks on
    U.S. forces in Iraq by militias using Iranian-provided
    ordnance had actually increased from May to July, despite
    Iran's claim to support Iraqi stability. xxxxxxxxxxxx stated that
    the USG would soon see (he was vague on how soon) evidence of
    Iranian security cooperation in the form of diminished
    attacks, taking the July discussions in Baghdad -- as opposed
    to those held in May -- as the point at which the IRGC had
    decided it could go forward with such cooperation. xxxxxxxxxxxx
    described how IRGC orders to "our allies" are "in the
    pipeline," but it takes time for such orders to be
    disseminated throughout Iraqi militia networks and acted upon
    ("it is a very large machine, with delayed effect").

    ¶3. (C) By way of illustration of this delayed implementation
    phenomenon, xxxxxxxxxxxx said there had been an unintended attack
    "by our (Shiite Iraqi) allies" on UK forces immediately after
    the release of the UK naval hostages last April. xxxxxxxxxxxx said
    the IRGC had indeed issued an order for attacks on UK forces,
    in response to what he called an earlier UK attack on the
    Iranian consulate in Basra, but that Iranian expression of
    unhappiness had been satisfied with the hostage episode, and
    that IRGC authorities were consequently exasperated by the
    militia attack occuring shortly after the hostage resolution.
    xxxxxxxxxxxx said their Iraqi "allies" explained the incident as
    the result of a standing "general order" to launch such
    attacks, which had not yet been rescinded. xxxxxxxxxxxx indicated
    that similar organizational snafus lie behind the current
    continuing attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq.

    ¶4. (C) xxxxxxxxxxxx went on to argue, however, that a USG
    designation of the IRGC as a terrorist organization would
    effectively end all interest, or political ability, of the
    IRGC to cooperate with the USG on Iraqi or Afghan security.
    He stressed that, unlike "a few years ago, under Khatami,"

    London 00003175 002 of 003

    the IRGC plays a central and preeminent role in the Iranian
    government and that, if the IRGC is designated as a terrorist
    organization, the USG will have no Iranian partner with which
    to engage on security or other issues of mutual concern.
    xxxxxxxxxxxx said it makes no difference to Iran whether the
    proposed IRGC designation is done under U.S. domestic law or
    international authority -- all sanctions, financial measures
    and designations are seen by Iranian authorities and the
    public as authored by America, with international partners
    such as the E3 plus 3 and the UN as mere cutouts for U.S.
    initiatives. The practical effects of such measures are
    unimportant to the Iranian Government, but the symbolic and
    psychological consequences do matter.

    Group Discussion Highlights
    ---------------------------
    ¶5. (C) The evening's larger group discussion had several
    highlights:

    -- A (surprising) degree of self-professed confusion by
    xxxxxxxxxxxx at the what he called the "multiple and conflicting
    signals" on Iran policy from various parts of the USG
    including the Congress;

    -- An open acknowledgment by xxxxxxxxxxxx that the IRGC is present
    and operating in both Afghanistan and Iraq (with U.S.
    occupation and Sunni attacks on Shias given as a
    justification);

    -- xxxxxxxxxxxx description of Shiite militias in Iraq as "our
    allies, whom we created against Saddam;"

    -- Fiery statements by xxxxxxxxxxxx on U.S. injustices perpetrated
    over the years against Iran, on Iran's resolve and
    capabilities to launch military and asymmetric responses, and
    on how Iran should replace or join with the United States as
    the Gulf region's "co-manager," all of which provoked
    vehement rejoinders from xxxxxxxxxxxx;

    -- xxxxxxxxxxxx reflections on a more mature Iran's
    no-longer-revolutionary approach to its foreign relations;

    -- xxxxxxxxxxxx repeated return to the theme of desiring a
    constructive and cooperative relationship with the U.S.,
    first on Afghanistan and Iraq and secondly on the nuclear
    issue;

    -- xxxxxxxxxxxx near-gloating remarks on Hezbollah's 2006
    conflict with Israel; and

    -- xxxxxxxxxxxx description of the United States as having become
    Iran's "hostage" in Iraq ("you cannot stay and you cannot
    leave ... your forces there and in the region are our
    target").

    Comment
    -------
    ¶6. (C) Although impeccably turned out, outwardly genial, and
    speaking with confidence and an evident sense of authority,
    xxxxxxxxxxxx appeared to be under significant stress and at great
    pains to listen carefully and closely to all interlocutors,
    and especially to xxxxxxxxxxxx (standard) comments on the E3 plus
    3 offer, as well as the need for Iranian behavior change in
    Iraq. xxxxxxxxxxxx apparently genuine desire to engage and move
    towards cooperation was coupled to his equally apparent sense
    that Iran is entitled to use violent means against us until

    London 00003175 003 of 003

    such time as there a change in the USG's "regional behavior."

    Biographical Background
    ------------------------
    ¶7. xxxxxxxxxxxx

    Visit London's Classified Website:
    http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/eur/london/index. cfm
    tuttle

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