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### Viewing cable 09TRIPOLI960, SAIF AL-ISLAM'S STAFF REACHES OUT ON POL-MIL ISSUES

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09TRIPOLI960 | 2009-12-14 09:09 | 2011-01-31 21:09 | SECRET//NOFORN | Embassy Tripoli

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    VZCZCXRO5048
    OO RUEHBC RUEHDE RUEHDH RUEHKUK RUEHROV
    DE RUEHTRO #0960/01 3480905
    ZNY SSSSS ZZH
    O P 140905Z DEC 09
    FM AMEMBASSY TRIPOLI
    TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 5539
    INFO RUEHEE/ARAB LEAGUE COLLECTIVE
    RUEHLO/AMEMBASSY LONDON PRIORITY 1195
    RHMFISS/CDR USAFRICOM STUTTGART GE
    RHEHAAA/NSC WASHINGTON DC
    RUEAIIA/CIA WASHDC
    RUEHTRO/AMEMBASSY TRIPOLI 6089

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    S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 TRIPOLI 000960

    NOFORN
    SIPDIS

    STATE FOR NEA/MAG

    E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/14/2019
    TAGS: PREL PGOV PINR KACT MCAP MASS LY
    SUBJECT: SAIF AL-ISLAM'S STAFF REACHES OUT ON POL-MIL ISSUES

    REF: A) TRIPOLI 941; B) TRIPOLI 924; c) TRIPOLI 208

    TRIPOLI 00000960 001.2 of 002

    CLASSIFIED BY: Gene A. Cretz, Ambassador, U.S. Embassy Tripoli,
    Department of State.
    REASON: 1.4 (b), (d)
    ¶1. (S/NF) Summary: During recent meetings, Saif al-Islam
    al-Qadhafi's staff has shown an increased interest in bilateral
    military and security issues, particularly requests linked to
    Captain Khamis al-Qadhafi, including purchases of helicopters
    and "Tiger" vehicle components, and M113 refurbishment. Saif's
    staff also indicated Libya was interested in purchasing French
    SCALP cruise missiles to replace its SCUD Bs. This increased
    attention may be reflective of Saif's broader plans to
    consolidate military and security issues within his expanding
    "General Coordinator" portfolio. Saif's staff declined to
    comment on any future division of responsibility between Saif
    al-Islam and Mutassim al-Qadhafi in these areas. The clear
    interest in military sales represented by Saif's staff on behalf
    of Khamis al-Qadhafi may be indicative of Saif's attempts to
    curry his youngest brother's favor. End Summary.

    Saif's aide advocates on behalf of khamis

    ¶2. (S/NF) xxxxxxxxxxxx meetings with Pol/Econ Chief
    and DATT, xxxxxxxxxxxx Saif al-Islam
    al-Qadhafi, expressed interest in military equipment sales,
    particularly purchase requests from Khamis al-Qadhafi's 32nd
    Brigade. xxxxxxxxxxxx labeled "strange" the "broad" list of equipment
    requests made by National Security Advisor Mutassim al-Qadhafi
    to the Department of Defense earlier this year, and focused
    discussion on Libyan military requests for helicopters and
    vehicles -- requests that likely derived from the "Khamis
    Brigade." xxxxxxxxxxxx sought an explanation on the USG refusal of the
    sale of Little Bird helicopters to the Libyan military, and
    designated for the "Khamis Brigade." Stating that the Libyan
    military was still very interested in purchasing the aircraft,
    he suggested the helicopters have all armament removed so they
    could be categorized as "non-lethal equipment." DATT informed
    him that the Libyan military was free to purchase a number of
    other helicopter systems that the Defense Security Cooperation
    Agency had already cleared for Libyan military purchase. xxxxxxxxxxxx
    insisted that the Libyan military wanted to purchase the Little
    Bird helicopters.

    ¶3. (S/NF) Additionally, xxxxxxxxxxxx requested an update on the status
    of the license request by a jointly owned U.S. and Turkish
    company to refurbish Libya's fleet of M113 vehicles, in which
    Khamis al-Qadhafi had expressed a personal interest. He asked
    emboffs to provide him with a written update on the status of
    the request, which he would then pass to Khamis. xxxxxxxxxxxx then
    reiterated a GOL complaint (which Saif had raised with the
    Ambassador on November 27, ref A) that a UAE company could not
    meet the requirements for the sale of a fleet of Jordanian
    "Tiger" 4x4 vehicles to the Libyan military, as the U.S.
    manufacturer of the vehicles' engines would not approve the
    sale. DATT informed xxxxxxxxxxxx that, per discussions with the
    manufacturer, it was that company's policy, not U.S. law, that
    prohibited the sale of equipment to the Government of Libya.
    "We have a long way to go," retorted xxxxxxxxxxxx. He stated that if
    the UAE could not outfit the Tiger vehicles with American
    engines, then the Libyans would purchase engines from
    Mercedes-Benz. "But we want American engines," he added. DATT
    extended the possibility that Libyan military procurement
    provide a Letter of Request to purchase the engines via the
    Foreign Military Sales process, which xxxxxxxxxxxx said he would
    discuss with the appropriate officials.

    xxxxxxxxxxxx to follow up on military engagement offers

    ¶4. (S/NF) In addition to the three issues raised, DATT educated
    xxxxxxxxxxxx on the five pending Letters of Offer and Assistance (LOA)
    that have been held up in Libya's military procurement office
    for several months, all of which focus on C-130 related
    purchases and refurbishment requests, as well as the full range
    of military exchange and training opportunities that have been
    offered to the Libyans over the last year. While xxxxxxxxxxxx did not
    show interest in the C-130 LOAs, he seemed surprised by the
    number of military exchange and training opportunities on offer
    and was particularly shocked that most of them had gone
    unanswered. "Who did you make these offers to?" he asked. He
    took particular interest in an offer made for Khamis to travel
    around the United States to tour U.S. military installations and
    pledged to follow-up directly with Khamis on that program.

    Libya potentially identifies scud b replacement system

    ¶5. (S/NF) Separating the topic as one that was "political" as
    well as "military," xxxxxxxxxxxx emboffs that the Libyans may
    have found an MTCR-compliant "replacement system" for its stock
    of SCUD B missiles. He explained that the GOL had discussed,

    Tripoli 00000960 002.2 of 002

    during a recent high-level French visit, the purchase of the
    French SCALP Missile (a.k.a. "Storm Shadow") to replace the SCUD
    ¶B. xxxxxxxxxxxx asked whether the USG would consider the equipment
    MTCR-compliant, and if so, whether the USG would bless the sale.
    Emboffs offered to pass the information to Washington for
    guidance. "How soon do you think you will know?" he asked. We
    told him we would follow-up as soon as we had more information
    for him. (Note: The SCALP Missile is an air launched
    cruise-launched missile, fired from Rafale as well as other
    combat aircraft. From a separate source, DATT learned December
    10 that although France is keen to sell Rafale jets to Libya, it
    is not interested in selling the Libyans the SCALP Missile,
    which is deemed "too sensitive." End note.)

    Security role for saif?

    ¶6. (S/NF) When asked whether Saif would be the point person for
    military and security issues if and when he takes on his new
    position as "General Coordinator," xxxxxxxxxxxx -- that the Embassy should continue to track
    military-related issues through Mutassim's office xxxxxxxxxxxx from now on.

    ¶7. (S/NF) Comment: The concerted attention that xxxxxxxxxxxx devoted to military and security issues during recent
    meetings with Emboffs suggests that Saif is beginning to insert
    himself into the political-military and security spheres. The
    discussion of Khamis' requests in particular may indicate that
    Saif is trying to curry favor with his little brother. Given
    the fact that the "Khamis Brigade" is considered the
    best-equipped and most capable of defending the regime, it seems
    only natural that anyone intent on assuming power would try to
    align himself with Khamis. xxxxxxxxxxxx cautious advice to continue
    to track military and security issues through Mutassim's office
    seems to indicate that Saif's interest in these issues is still
    informal and perhaps not fully vetted within the Libyan
    government. End Comment.
    Cretz

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