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### Viewing cable 10BERLIN194, BRITISH FOREIGN OFFICE DEFENCE CHIEF DISCUSSES

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10BERLIN194 | 2010-02-19 11:11 | 2011-01-28 00:12 | SECRET | Embassy Berlin

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    S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 BERLIN 000194

     SIPDIS

     E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/16/2035
     TAG KCFE, PARM, PREL, NATO, NPT, CD, UK, GM
     SUBJECT: BRITISH FOREIGN OFFICE DEFENCE CHIEF DISCUSSES
     EUROPEAN SECURITY, NPT REVCON

     Classified By: Political M/C George Glass for reasons 1.4 (b/d)

     ¶1. (S) Summary.  On the margins of the Munich Security
     Conference, February 6, UK Foreign Office Director General
     for Defense and Intelligence Mariot Leslie told U/S Tauscher
     that the allies should negotiate with Russia a new follow-on
     agreement to the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty.
     Leslie also suggested that Egypt might abandon its
     controversial NPT Revcon Middle East resolution language if
     it were guaranteed a conference on the subject some time
     after the May 2010 Review Conference.  To satisfy Moscow's
     desire for greater inclusion, this conference could be held
     in Russia.  Leslie also noted that she was fighting pressure
     to abandon stalled FMCT discussions in the Conference on
     Disarmament and take up negotiations elsewhere.  End Summary.

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     Russia
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     ¶2. (S) Briefing on her recent visit to Moscow, Leslie said
     Russian officials had cited their desire for missile defense
     provisions as the main stumbling block in signing the
     post-START agreement with the U.S.  The open question, she
     said, was whether progressives in the Russian government
     could out-maneuver the military on this sticking point.
     Leslie also underscored her concerns about the proliferation
     of missile technology in the Middle East and stressed the
     need to turn the page on previous disputes with Russia over
     this issue.  According to Leslie, Russian FM Lavrov had
     agreed with her.

     ¶3. (S) Leslie underscored her belief that the Russians had
     "lost out" during CFE and A/CFE negotiations and that the
     allies should be open to a re-negotiation with Moscow on the
     issue of conventional forces.  However, she recognized that
     there would likely be strong opposition from flank states
     like Turkey and Norway -- particularly given the spill-over
     effects into the issue of sub-strategic nuclear weapons.
     Separately, Leslie said she had been surprised by the sudden
     release of the new Russian Defense Strategy.  While in
     Moscow, she said Russian think tankers had discouraged her
     from placing too much importance on the strategy.  Instead,
     Leslie was told to look at Russia's upcoming nuclear
     declaratory posture for better insights into top-level
     thinking.

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     NPT Revcon and Egypt
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     ¶4. (S) Leslie shared U/S Tauscher's view that
     presidential-level engagement could help move Egypt away from
     it's controversial Middle East resolution language and,
     thereby, avoid derailing the NPT Review Conference in May.
     However, she doubted whether engagement alone would be
     enough.  Leslie stressed that Mubarak would also need a
     high-visibility deliverable to take back to his public --
     though this deliverable would not necessarily require much
     substance.  Specifically, she suggested that Egypt be
     supported in its long-held goal to have an international
     conference on the issue of nuclear security in the Middle
     East.  Since Moscow wanted to be seen as a player in this
     issue, Leslie believed that holding such a conference in
     Russia could kill two birds with one stone.

     ¶5. (S) Leslie said she had discussed this idea with South
     African counterparts and had agreed with them that it could
     work.  U/S Tauscher stressed the need for assurances that
     Egypt would stay in line during the NPT Review Conference.
     In response, Leslie shared South African views that Egypt
     would lose NAM support should Cairo be given support for a
     conference and later still prove intransigent at the Revcon.
     Moreover, Leslie suggested that Egypt might further be kept
     in check by scheduling the conference after the NPT Revcon.
     However, it would be important for other countries -- not the
     U.S. or UK -- to push this idea forward.  As additional ways
     to move Egypt, Leslie suggested the possibility of a meeting
     between the Egyptian FM and foreign ministers from the NPT
     depositary states.  She also raised the possibility of a
     special reporteur -- though Leslie recognized that the French

     BERLIN 00000194  002 OF 002

     were opposed.

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     Treaty Updates
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     ¶6. (S) Leslie said that she was increasingly under pressure
     by British parliamentarians to cease stalled FMCT talks at
     the Conference on Disarmament (CD) and move negotiations to
     another venue.  However, she continued to push back because
     the CD offered exposure to a broad range of nations --
     including nuclear states -- and because of the simple lack of
     any alternative mechanism through which to discuss the issue.
      Leslie believed that, in the future, such a move might be
     necessary but that now was not the time. U/S Tauscher
     underscored complaints from Islamabad that the U.S.-India
     civilian nuclear agreement somehow short-changed Pakistan.
     For her part, Leslie stressed the need to get Indians and
     Pakistanis talking again -- even through back-channels.
     Moreover, she said that it might be necessary to validate
     Pakistani concerns, while still emphasizing to Islamabad that
     these concerns are misplaced.  Nevertheless, we must make
     clear to Pakistani officials that they cannot hold FMCT
     negotiations hostage as a result.

     ¶7. (S) Leslie was thrilled to hear that the proposed Defense
     Trade Treaty between the U.S. and UK was again moving in
     Washington.  Meanwhile, in Moscow, Leslie said she had worked
     to manage Russian expectations over U.S. ratification of the
     CTBT.  Specifically, she underscored mid-term elections in
     the U.S. and the Obama Administration's packed agenda as
     reasons why USG ratification was unlikely this year.

     ¶8. (U) This cable was cleared with U/S Tauscher.
     Delawie

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